I'm curious how some of you guys have retrieved heavy axles (60's, 14 Bolts, etc.) from yards like Ecology or Pick-your-Part? Yards where you take the part off the truck your self. Un-bolting it, and clipping the brake lines is easy, but what about hauling up to the window to pay, and getting it out to your truck? Bring a bunch of friends with you? How have you all done it in the past?

Thanks.

The Pick'n'Pulls around here have big 'A' framed engine hoists that you can wheel around.

Later,
....Mike

Usually grab a worker and they get a fork lift or something and take it up front for me.

Yeah, check with the JY owner. They usually either have a forklift and operator to help or they have the drag around hoist like mentioned above.

OR

Get some of your biggest, biscuit eating motherf#@king friends to hump that shit to your truck.

On a side note, worst case scenario....no friends, no forklift or hoist, removing the drums and as much assessory crap as you can, can lighten a heavy ass 1 ton axle by several hundred pounds. Okay, maybe not that much, but will significantly lighten it up enough to load yourself. Watch the back though.

i like a frame hoists but when they are used up put some rims on it and roller up.


i have carried complete I beam econo van axles over my shoulders like koreans carrying water.

our local yard has the engine hoist and carts for this kinda stuff, its still a pain to roll a front axle around on carts tho. at another yard you can get a guy to pick it up with a forklift and they will even cut it outof the truck for you.


either way, take 2 guys with you. dropping an axle at a junkyard by yerself is not a good idea if you can help it. plus you can make them carry it and just buy a 30 pack when ya get home

Some good idea's in this thread. I appreciate it. I've always brought friends with me, but would prefer not to have to rely on that. Especially if I find a 60.

a ford d44 with radi arms will fit and ride in a 2 wheeled wheel barrow, but it will take 2 to lift and control it.

grab an axle and throw it over your shoulder.....

grab an axle and throw it over your shoulder.....

Works great if you are 6'5 and 290









like me :flipoff2:
Dana 44's i can handle but a 60 is another story

grab an axle and throw it over your shoulder.....

Hell yeah! that's what we do over here :flipoff2:


Or we go mob handed with a bunch of hairy arsed feckers and maul them. :D

grab an axle and throw it over your shoulder.....

I'll give you a 79 Ford HP front 60 if you can pick up & carry complete 14 Bolt rear (with brakes & hubs) on your shoulder (by yourself) for 100 feet.

sounds like the 44" challange all over again.

Works great if you are 6'5 and 290

like me :flipoff2:
Dana 44's i can handle but a 60 is another story

Agreed...pretty stouty myself I can handle the 44's, 10 and 12B, but 60's 70's 14B's Sterling 10.25.....well those are entirely difrent monsters. I managaed to get both axles from the garage out to the vehicle but getting them out of the junkyard required 2 mexican guys and myself. They gladly accepted 5 a piece and were on there way.:lmao: But then conned 2 friends over to unload it for a few beers and it was all good. Manhandled them under the vehicle...and almost got a hernia. Be careful or get a friend or 9 to help.

i have loaded a 14bff complete by my self by hand but no over the shoulder or draging it from the back of a yard.

I used to toss around 1/2 ton rears with no problems, D-44's and 10 bolts will damn near blow a seal picking them up. I dont do this stupid crap anymore, getting to old. I have seen local mutts "strong back and a weak mind" pick up D-60 rears and fronts and toss them on a truck before. They cut firewood for a living, loading their doodle bugs with 4'-6' logs by hand. These guys are built like body builders but with no teeth or proper anunciation of the english language. Decent folks though if you know how to talk with them.

i brought a torch with and cut a 9" out of a 79 f150 and, cut the u bolts, shocks, brake lines, etc off then carried the axle out myself. it weighs about about 200 lbs i'd say. I dunno what you are capable of lifting but that's what i did.

I'll give you a 79 Ford HP front 60 if you can pick up & carry complete 14 Bolt rear (with brakes & hubs) on your shoulder (by yourself) for 100 feet.

Can I have it if I carry it one foot?:laughing:

Can I have the 14 bolt if I can load it myself?? :D

if you park 100' away and sling the bitch on your shoulder by yourself then yes, thats the deal.

Toyota stuff is light :)

I have had the you pick it folks tell me I could have stuff if I could carry it. I am not welcome back at a few of them.

I bring friends and a dolly, or a few extra bucks to tip the guy on the forklift.


If you take your time you can move anything. Either by taking it apart, or moving it a couple feet at a time.

I'll give you a 79 Ford HP front 60 if you can pick up & carry complete 14 Bolt rear (with brakes & hubs) on your shoulder (by yourself) for 100 feet.

Name the place and time.....i'll even drive to you to get it

never unerestimate a mans need for a 60:flipoff2:

I'll give you a 79 Ford HP front 60 if you can pick up & carry complete 14 Bolt rear (with brakes & hubs) on your shoulder (by yourself) for 100 feet.

sounds like a challenge to me.:D

I'll give you a 79 Ford HP front 60 if you can pick up & carry complete 14 Bolt rear (with brakes & hubs) on your shoulder (by yourself) for 100 feet.

where do you live?

Hell i would atleast give it a try... Im not exactly small, or weak, but i know thats a big axle.... Its amazing what some determination can do though....

Never seen a weight for one of them, bout what do they weigh?

not sure if this was said but alot of places here let you drive your truck back to whatever your worrking on if you need something big

I can use a sling?? ;)

I'll give you a 79 Ford HP front 60 if you can pick up & carry complete 14 Bolt rear (with brakes & hubs) on your shoulder (by yourself) for 100 feet.

Thats a challenge. Can I send a movie of doing it?:mr-t: (or try?)

I took a 2 wheel hand truck, last time I was at Pullnsave I carried out a wrecker pto winch with it. $80.00 out the door. I have moved lots of axles with my beer guy hand truck. Just gotta balance it.

where do you live?

Hell i would atleast give it a try... Im not exactly small, or weak, but i know thats a big axle.... Its amazing what some determination can do though....

Never seen a weight for one of them, bout what do they weigh?
500-550 on a front d60
400-500 for a 14bff

I can use a sling?? ;)

axle lifted off the ground,
placed on shoulder,
walked off 100',
by your self.

no tools, no hoist's, no help.

Maybe during Festivus... :D

I pulled a 14 bolt solo. Just ditch the drums and pull it out from under the vehicle. Lift/maneuver one side onto a hood, bumper, or tailgate and lift the other across a wheelbarrow(thats what we have here). You you be able to get it to the parts counter and to your truck bed. When you get home lower it out one side at a time. If you're a scrawny little twig man:flipoff2:, then pull the axles and hubs to lighten it up a bit.

thats how i load them, but i dont strip them.

shit i have carried two th350 trannys (one on each sholder) almost to the truck (one of the torqure converters fell out and landed on my foot)

one of the junkyards used to have a event twice a year, anything you can carry from the inner fence to the outer fence (about 50-60 feet) you get for 40 bucks. it was a trip just watching all the people load up tons of stuff, the technique of choice was two people. a car hood, with seat belts around their necks tied to the hood. i just went there and loaded up on driveshafts and other chevy junk. they quit doing that last year :(

Harbor Freight's Blue Heavy duty Hand Truck IS my weapon of choice. I use it to wheel in my tool arsenal and have had all sorts of things like Big blocks in long block form and all types of rear ends on it too.

Just make sure the tires have air before you leave the house.

It sucks when there low and you have to drag something heavy from the back of the yard to the front...

One local junkyard lets me get in their truck and ride back and get whatever I want with the tools in the truck. Another one you have to use a wheelbarrow to haul in your tools. On a hot day thats a fucking chore because the place is so big, but the parts are all dirt cheap and they will pickup whatever you want them to with a forklift and load it for you

Harbor Freight's Blue Heavy duty Hand Truck IS my weapon of choice. I use it to wheel in my tool arsenal and have had all sorts of things like Big blocks in long block form and all types of rear ends on it too.

Just make sure the tires have air before you leave the house.

It sucks when there low and you have to drag something heavy from the back of the yard to the front...

Yup, hand truck is my favorite tool for moving big heavy shit anywhere. Much easier than trying to drag/carry big rig parts and canopy's and shit. I've been thinking about building myself one of those heavy duty wagons though.

the jy where i live was offering a deal were everything you could carry 25 ft in your hand then you could have for 25 bucks, my buddy tried to get a d60 but it was to heavy for 1 person...ended up having to pay 180 bucks. Best thing to do is find some tires or rims and roll it out the door. :smokin:

where do you live?

Hell i would atleast give it a try... Im not exactly small, or weak, but i know thats a big axle.... Its amazing what some determination can do though....

Never seen a weight for one of them, bout what do they weigh?

Front 60 500 lbs fully dressed; 150 lbs empty. Can't see anyone getting a whole one on their shoulder, much less carrying it for 100 feet. The challenge is really cruel and unusual punishment though. I could see some one wanting to try for a free front 60.

I use a carpet dolly from Northern Tool(or anywhere)like they use for moving furnature. They are only like $5 to $8, or at least that's what they were on sale. It just basically a square wood dolly with 4 wheels on it. It's covered in carpet so it doesn't scratch furniture, so you can imagine what that looks like after toting axles around on it, but I figured it was better than the stuff chewing up the wood directly. It works good for trannies and cases too. Two of them will help you walk it out from under the frame, but one is easier to steer if you center the load over it. Get some rope and you can tow it so you don't have to bend over while you are pushing it.

Of course this won't work on rough terrain in a dirt yard, only on concrete or pavement, but it may get you from the counter to out the door after you've wheel-barrowed it or they forklifted it up there for you. Most places will accomodate you all the way out of their driveway or parking lot, because they know you need help, and they want your business.

Its very smart of you to try and be prepared before hand though. That's the type of thinking that will go a long way on successfull projects. Good luck.

I'll give you a 79 Ford HP front 60 if you can pick up & carry complete 14 Bolt rear (with brakes & hubs) on your shoulder (by yourself) for 100 feet.

In, thanks for the chance.

Im sure I can make it 100 feet before it crushes me.

In, thanks for the chance.

Im sure I can make it 100 feet before it crushes me.

You have access to a 14b and a vid camera? Lets see you do it. Lots of guys here seem to have superhuman strength but it seems that Mocha still has his axle. I guess all these musclemen already have lots of front 60's laying around:laughing:

are you serious?

Mike, let me know if youre serious.

last 14bff i got, pulled hubs and shafts out before hand, tossed em in the wheelbarrow and had them toss the housing/chunk on the golf cart and wheel it out that way...it was a bitch removing it by myself. found a 14bsf 6 lugger there a while back but luckily had a friend help me with it. it was deeper into the lines of cars and trucks so i had to drag it a ways out before they helped me with the golf cart again.

you are full of fucking shit if you think you shoulder a complete 14bff.

i'll throw in a hundred to see someone chunk a front dana 60 loaded out onto their shoulders and walk 100 ft....those guys on world strongest man might be able to do it but I doubt it....if it were only to carry it 100 ft once your buddies put it on your shoulders it could be done but not picking it off the ground yourself.

I do it the easy way. I get one of the yard grunts to bring the forklift over, and set it in my truck. Then when I got home, I'd just fire up my Bobcat, hook a chain around the axle and forks and lift that bitch up and set it wherever I want, without even breaking a sweat :flipoff2:

Although when I was in high school, I unloaded a 14FF and 3/4 ton 10 bolt out of my '78 GMC at the school auto shop with a engine hoist, just put it over the side of the bed, lifted the axle up a bit and drove out from under it.

yeah you have money and are lazy, way to go.

I have a buddy who helps me wrench occasionally, he has a learning disability and is stong as hell. He works cutting firewood and landscaping. I asked him to help me move my axles one day. As I was pulling cords off the floor or picking stuff up?? I turn around and he was standing there holding the 14b, no problem asked me where I wanted it, like it was nothing. He's the only person I could even think of doing it but I doubt he could get it a hundred feet and I would never want to see/have him try it for fear of him getting hurt. I have no clue how he lifted it but he was holding it in his elbows up against his chest strong man style.

As for moving shyt I got one of those expanded steel wagons from Tractor Supply with the drop down sides that is rated at 800lbs. It's easy to pull has unlimited spots to rachet stuff down from and is the right height to lift axles from the ground on to and off of into a truckbed by yourself. Havent tried anything larger yet.

I have a complete drum to drum ff 14b from a 78 or so suburban sitting in a trailer right now. Its not one with the hugest drums so I think its more do able than some. I did pull a M1008 14 bolt out of a truck and put it on a trailer by hand by myself so I have an idea of how heavy it is. Incentive and wheaties, FTW!

I dont have a bobcat to unload axles, I have to use my engine hoist

shit i have carried two th350 trannys (one on each sholder) almost to the truck (one of the torqure converters fell out and landed on my foot)


How did you lift these and get them to your shoulders?

You were able to do all this lifting and balancing without leaking fluid all over yourself?

How did you hold them in place once you had them on your shoulders?

When the torque converter fell off did it leak fluid all over you?

When the torque converter fell on your foot it didn't break any bones?

The pain of getting hit in the foot with a torque converter falling 5 ft wasn't enough to make you drop the transmissions?

The imbalance resulting from loosing the weight of a torque converter wasn't enough to cause you to drop the transmissions?

How far did you carry them?

Were you also carrying your tools?

It is one thing to be able to lift very heavy unbalanced awkward objects, which is about strength, balance and coordination. Being able to hold them up in the air and carry them any kind of distance requires incredible cardiovascular fitness.

You must be one strong dude:shaking:

How did you lift these and get them to your shoulders?

You were able to do all this lifting and balancing without leaking fluid all over yourself?

How did you hold them in place once you had them on your shoulders?

When the torque converter fell off did it leak fluid all over you?

When the torque converter fell on your foot it didn't break any bones?

The pain of getting hit in the foot with a torque converter falling 5 ft wasn't enough to make you drop the transmissions?

The imbalance resulting from loosing the weight of a torque converter wasn't enough to cause you to drop the transmissions?

How far did you carry them?

Were you also carrying your tools?

It is one thing to be able to lift very heavy unbalanced awkward objects, which is about strength, balance and coordination. Being able to hold them up in the air and carry them any kind of distance requires incredible cardiovascular fitness.

You must be one strong dude:shaking:

:lmao:

One local junkyard lets me get in their truck and ride back and get whatever I want with the tools in the truck. Another one you have to use a wheelbarrow to haul in your tools. On a hot day thats a fucking chore because the place is so big, but the parts are all dirt cheap and they will pickup whatever you want them to with a forklift and load it for you
my local yard had a guy drive right in with his truck to pull something without stopping at the office. while he was working, someone else came and took the radio out of his truck. i guess that is why all of the junkyards spray-paint their trucks. the one in PA (Harrys) actually sells drinks and stuff from their truck.

I use a hand truck for all of my stuff, a lot easier to haul that around than a loaded tool bag, and the bag sits on top of what ever i grab. it has a 600LB capacity, only problem is getting stuff into the bed of the truck.

I had a junkyard offer to deliver an axle to my house once.

My freind and I lifted my 14 bolt, complete end to end, into the back of my van and I thought that I was going to blow my back out. That thing was F-ing heavy. I would love to see some pics of someone throwing that axle over their shoulder.

dameinhellfire was over here the other day and tried to convince me how and that i could do it, im big and dumb but not that strong.

he used a 150 d44 housing as a test mule.

http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8843925#post8843925


some bodys got to have a scale or access to one.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64982

http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/14b_bible/index.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10.5%22_Corporate_14_Bolt_Differential

"10.5” Corporate 14 Bolt Differential is a heavy duty differential that is used by Chevrolet and GMC. This differential is of the full floating design and has a ring gear with a diameter of 10.5 inches. As the name implies, this differential has 14 bolts holding on the differential cover. The ring gear is not held on with 14 bolts, but rather 12. This is a very heavy differential that weights in at around 550 lb depending on the brake options and axle width."

I use one of the HD hand trucks to get stuff to the truck and load it with one of these.
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g305/1-tonmudder/37555.gif

I had it mounted in the back of an ol beater truck but the weight of loadin heavy axles about ripped it thru the bed,and yes I used the braces,so I got some square tubing that would fit in my reciever and welded a piece of 1/2 plate to it and bolted the hoist to it.Now i can use it on anything that has a reciever.

The only problem I have had is that the cheap hand winches dont last long.I am goin to put a small ATV winch on it and wire it into my trailer plug.

I wanna know just how dedicated Mike is to giving that axle away before i try to carry the 14 bolt 100 feet... Not saying i can, but that i might attempt it (of course, only if the incentive was there).

same here, im interested and it would be awesome to get some pbbers together to have goes at it. beer and hernias sound like a good day.

this sounds more like a pissing contest and has lost any tech value, wait it never really had any.:shaking::shaking:

Ok, my comment was meant to be facetious.

However, it seems lots of folks seem to have taken me seriously.

Since I didn't state I was joking, if someone wants to hold me to this I will consider it provided a few guidelines are met.

First off: I'd like to be there.... Or at the very least, have a "neutral" third party (preferably a group) to verify it. If the ladder, I'd like unedited video of the whole thing.

Second: I want this to be a plane jane FF 8 lug 14 Bolt. IE-it hasn't been modified or cleaned up (ie spring pads, disc brakes, drums, shafts, pinion, grease/dirt removed).
Now since there are several flavors: C&C or full width, 2 different size drums (can't remember the actual sizes). If it is to be the C&C it must have the larger brakes. Or, iIf it is the smaller drum model, it must be full width.

Third: Must be weighed on sight.

Fourth: Participant can not use any form of lifting device, straps, cart, or friend. Gloves & weight belt only...
Must be on flat/level ground, can be dirt, gravel, concrete or pavement (no hills, ledges, platforms, etc. etc.)
IE: Participant must lift 14 Bolt from ground (at his/her feet), place it on his/her shoulder (entire axle must be off the ground... no dragging), then proceed to walk or run, 100ft with 14 Bolt on his/her shoulder (no wheelchairs! :flipoff2:). All on a single attempt... IE: one single action: lift axle from ground, onto shoulder, walk 100ft, then place axle on the ground (not dropped, and no putting the axle on the ground to rest).

Fifth: Participant must sign a waiver/release, absolving me from any legal/financial responsibility due to any injury that may occur (IE participate at your own risk).

Sixth: I will have exclusive copyright of any video/photos shot of the event (ie: I don't care if folks shoot stills or video, but any $$ generated from the video/images would be mine).

Seven: Must be a registered user of PBB prior to 10/12/2008.

(EDIT: Crap, I sound like Bob Yen).

Fifth: Participant must sign a waiver/release, absolving me from any legal/financial responsibility due to any injury that may occur (IE participate at your own risk).



So I guess that means you wont have paramedics there on standby??? :D

i think i could shoulder it with help, but lifting that mutha onto my shoulders and then walking a 100 feet:eek: i might have to make a trip out to my friends junk yard to see if this is possible:flipoff2:

It's possible to do. not easy, but doable

I think I will pick one up with my boom truck and see if I can shoulder the weight while it is suspended in the air. If I actually get around to doing this I will post the vid just for fun.

I assume there will be testing for banned substances?? :laughing:

Ok, my comment was meant to be facetious.

However, it seems lots of folks seem to have taken me seriously.

Since I didn't state I was joking, if someone wants to hold me to this I will consider it provided a few guidelines are met.

First off: I'd like to be there.... Or at the very least, have a "neutral" third party (preferably a group) to verify it. If the ladder, I'd like unedited video of the whole thing.

Second: I want this to be a plane jane FF 8 lug 14 Bolt. IE-it hasn't been modified or cleaned up (ie spring pads, disc brakes, drums, shafts, pinion, grease/dirt removed).
Now since there are several flavors: C&C or full width, 2 different size drums (can't remember the actual sizes). If it is to be the C&C it must have the larger brakes. Or, iIf it is the smaller drum model, it must be full width.

Third: Must be weighed on sight.

Fourth: Participant can not use any form of lifting device, straps, cart, or friend. Gloves & weight belt only...
Must be on flat/level ground, can be dirt, gravel, concrete or pavement (no hills, ledges, platforms, etc. etc.)
IE: Participant must lift 14 Bolt from ground (at his/her feet), place it on his/her shoulder (entire axle must be off the ground... no dragging), then proceed to walk or run, 100ft with 14 Bolt on his/her shoulder (no wheelchairs! :flipoff2:). All on a single attempt... IE: one single action: lift axle from ground, onto shoulder, walk 100ft, then place axle on the ground (not dropped, and no putting the axle on the ground to rest).

Fifth: Participant must sign a waiver/release, absolving me from any legal/financial responsibility due to any injury that may occur (IE participate at your own risk).

Sixth: I will have exclusive copyright of any video/photos shot of the event (ie: I don't care if folks shoot stills or video, but any $$ generated from the video/images would be mine).



(EDIT: Crap, I sound like Bob Yen).

Waiver probably would not hold up under law... just my .02

I assume there will be testing for banned substances?? :laughing:


Stupidity is not a banned substance otherwise none of these guys would even be talking about trying this.:laughing::laughing:

ill save you guys some trouble, this is what you will see when some moron tries to lift said 14b onto shoulder....


replace weights with 14b
http://www.clipser.com/watch_video/123594

ill save you guys some trouble, this is what you will see when some moron tries to lift said 14b onto shoulder....


Replace weights with 14b
http://www.clipser.com/watch_video/123594

:lmao:

I would love to see you guys haul a set of axles a couple hundred feet by yourself. Lets see some youtube vids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGfsaIkuILs

After a quick search this guy can do almost that much wieght with handles in the right spot. You all are some big dudes.

never watched any "Worlds Strongest Man" competitions? any of those guys could lift it up and put it on their shoulders and walk with it. we said it won't be easy, but it CAN be done :flipoff2:

I just looked at that link and that ain't shit :laughing: at the world comp they do twice that much weight. google it

900lbs
http://www.theworldsstrongestman.com/de/wsm/events/fridge_carry.html

picking up atlas stones
http://www.theworldsstrongestman.com/de/wsm/events/atlas_stone.html

I edited my rules, to include that participant must be registered user of PBB prior to today. (IE no hiring a pro).

I edited my rules, to include that participant must be registered user of PBB prior to today. (IE no hiring a pro).

I can see the Craiglist ad right now,

"Big dumb cockstrong steroid junky need for 5 minutes of work, 100.00. Do not send pictures of your junk, your getting paid for your strong back not your shriveled up sack"



:flipoff2:

I can see the Craiglist ad right now,

"Big dumb cockstrong steroid junky need for 5 minutes of work, 100.00. Do not send pictures of your junk, your getting paid for your strong back not your shriveled up sack"



:flipoff2:

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

This should be good. It's like a Jackass version of Pirate. Wait, that's chit chat...nevermind.

I said "quick search". I am well aware of strongest man competitions. Looked like it fit the bill. 'bout the weight of an axle and a 100 feet. Relax.

the only thing that comes close in strongman is the crucible carry, a 380lbs "ding" [old cast iron smelting pot]or the housefeld stone[ a 6" think peice of stone shaped like africa] is carried at about chest height for maximum distance.

they are relatively compact and shaped well to be carried.

i doubt to many of the strong men could shoulder an axle. i dont doubt their ability to move one or the weight of one balanced and loaded safe and evely on there shoulders.