I want to replace my 3.0L V6 with a 3.4L V6 from a Tacoma (and eventually supercharge it ;) ). Correct me if I'm wrong:

My 3.0 V6 bellhousing (R150F) will bolt up to the 3.4L.
If I get the entire 3.4 wiring harness; the wiring should be manageable.
The intake and exhaust are opposite of mine and must be rerouted.
Since the replacement engine is newer, the smog czars will leave me alone. (I'm in CA)


Here's what I don't know:

Will the 3.4 bolt to the 3.0 motor mounts? Keep in mind that the T100s were available with both motors at one time, so there must be some simularity there.
Must the oil pan and pick-up tube be changed to work with a stock torsion bar IFS setup?
Can I keep the stock 3.0 fuel pump, etc? Or must I upgrade?
Will the damn thing fit under the hoodline?


I appreciate any help you can provide.

Originally posted by ROCKPIMP
Use the search!

Go right ahead buddy. I read every thread with the numbers "3.4" and the above questions were NOT addressed.

Originally posted by ROCKPIMP
you must not read very well.
#1: yes
#2: no
#3: yes
#4: yes
All found by using the search button, I was going to do the swap and buy a TRD supercharger. But just decided to go with a cam, headers and an intake.

I don't read well? How about answering the questions entitled "Here's what I don't know" instead of the ones I already have answers to. You won't find those using search thus the reason I posted here.

I think he was answering the Q's you didn't know.:rolleyes:

same engine at the same time in a T100? 93 and 94 had the 3.0. 95-up had the 3.4.

Originally posted by surlynkid
same engine at the same time in a T100? 93 and 94 had the 3.0. 95-up had the 3.4.

What I meant was both the 3-liter and the 3.4 were used in the same chassis truck.

Originally posted by ROCKPIMP
those were the answers to the questions you had.

Where are you getting this information rockpimp? I have read every discussion on POR about the swap and never saw my questions addressed. Have you done the swap? I'd like to see it.

I want to limit the number of surprises I encounter with such an engine swap.

Originally posted by paddlenbike


What I meant was both the 3-liter and the 3.4 were used in the same chassis truck.



Where are you getting this information rockpimp? I have read every discussion on POR about the swap and never saw my questions addressed. Have you done the swap? I'd like to see it.

I want to limit the number of surprises I encounter with such an engine swap.

Maybe you really dont read well:

Originally posted by ROCKPIMP
All found by using the search button, I was going to do the swap and buy a TRD supercharger. But just decided to go with a cam, headers and an intake.


Going on that, Im gonna take a stab in the dark and say no, he probably hasnt done the swap.

Originally posted by dirtgreg


Going on that, Im gonna take a stab in the dark and say no, he probably hasnt done the swap.

You're right, he hasn't done the swap. What he HAS done is spread mis-information. I was able to get in touch with someone who has done a 3.4L conversion. According to him you do have the change the oil pan setup and it will NOT fit under the hoodline by just over 2."

I wasn't looking for uneducated guesses or "use the search" for responses.

i know the taco SAS guys need a T100 oil pan.

Originally posted by surlynkid
i know the taco SAS guys need a T100 oil pan.

That's helpful, thanks. I assume the T100 has the sump at the rear?

Originally posted by paddlenbike


That's helpful, thanks. I assume the T100 has the sump at the rear?

yes

I will stoop to your level because I'm bored...

Originally posted by ROCKPIMP
put in a 4.3 chevy.

I hate Chevys.

Or are you one of those guys who asks questions, then pays someone to work on there truck?

Come to think of it, I did let Toyota work on my truck for free when the headgasket blew.

Do you have a truck?

No. Why drive a truck when you can drive a Geo Metro? :rolleyes:

Ever been wheeling?

Yes. I drive to band camp on heavily graveled roads.

Do you know that there is no need for BIG HP when you have a marlin crawler?

I want big power because it's fun and I can afford it.

I'd like to see some pics of what you drive!

http://www.usedgmcarandtruckparts.com/320x240/1b0092_pf.jpg

It looks a little different now. The stock 1.3L 3 cyl is mated to an NV4500, Atlas II, un-cut D60s, 44" Boggers, blah blah blah.

Thanks for completely hosing this thread.

Geez, glad Im not doin this swap, imagine findin this thread tryin to look up some info!!:flipoff2:

I also looked into doing this and will eventually or do the 7MGTE. I'm not 100% sure, but I believe( closely looked at the two side by side) the 3VZE and 5VZFE oil pans will interchange. So you should be able to use your pan/ pick up and dipstick. I do know that if you did change to a T100 pan you need to change the dipstick and tube also , on the older 5vz's there is a plug and this is easy. On the newer ( atleast the double cabs) the front plug is not there, meaning you have to trim the dipstick. If you already have the 3VZE this would be an easy swap. Also the stock 3VZE pump puts out about 20 gal/hr or around 220hp. If you supercharge it you will need ethier a better intank pump or what I did and ad another pump in line.

Originally posted by ROCKPIMP
blah blah blah blah blah...

Jackass. :rolleyes:

If you don't want to be helpful, then how about don't say anything at all? :mad:

FWIW, a stock 4.3 and 3.4L have just about the same power. The 4.3 just makes it at a little lower RPM. The 3.4L will be nearly a bolt-in swap compared to a 4.3L swap.

My 3.0 V6 bellhousing (R150F) will bolt up to the 3.4L.

Yep.

If I get the entire 3.4 wiring harness; the wiring should be manageable.

Yep, probably. Make sure the motor you get is for a 5-speed.

The intake and exhaust are opposite of mine and must be rerouted.

And the fuel lines.

Since the replacement engine is newer, the smog czars will leave me alone. (I'm in CA)

Yes, but you will still have to take it to the ref the first time...



Will the 3.4 bolt to the 3.0 motor mounts? Keep in mind that the T100s were available with both motors at one time, so there must be some simularity there.

Yes, from my 3.4L T100 and other 3.0's I've seen, the mounts look identical.

Must the oil pan and pick-up tube be changed to work with a stock torsion bar IFS setup?

Yes, if the 3.4 is from a Taco or 4runner, no if its from a T100 (T100 uses same t-bar IFS).

Can I keep the stock 3.0 fuel pump, etc? Or must I upgrade?

I would imagine so for the stock 3.4, not sure w/ the SC.

Will the damn thing fit under the hoodline?

I don't see why not, but apparently somebody said otherwise...? I guess you'll have to look into it more. I can take a measurement from crank to top of motor for you if you email me after Tues (I'm 1500 miles away right now).

Hi Eric, thanks for your reply. I have recently learned that the 3.0 oil pan and pick-up will bolt onto the 3.4. That's very good news. I can manage the wiring and I now believe the 3.4 does use the same motor mounts as the 3.0. I am a little concerned about whether or not the exhaust cross-over pipe will fit between the motor and the firewall. If not, headers will be my only option. I can now confirm that the 3.4 will not fit under the hood of an '89-95 pickup by 2". That means body lift or hood scoop.

1500 miles erik...........you are almost in texas.

as for the motor fitting under the hood, i think an L-88 hood would like nice on a toy!! :eek:

Oklahoma- still a long ways from Houston...

I have done the 3.4 swap with a Supercharger!! I used a 99 4runner engine and my Origanal A340H Trans.

no hood cutting!!! and no body lift!!

Drop me an email if you need help..

have picts

Todd

Obe1_home@yahoo.com


87 XCab SR5 4x4 Turbo Truck, with 3.4 TRD SUPERCHARGED!!

K. You've got my attention. How'd you do it? We wanna see pics!

Drop Me am Email and I will sent you a link to my Pictures and My number to call. Be glad to help Ya since i have invented the Wheel as i call it. Take Care!!

Todd

Originally posted by obe1_home@yahoo.com
Drop Me am Email and I will sent you a link to my Pictures and My number to call. Be glad to help Ya since i have invented the Wheel as i call it. Take Care!!

Todd

It's GREAT you are willing to share with him, what about the rest of us:(:(:(

As for the fuel system for the 3.4, you said you wanted to supercharge it.

The Taco guys have quite a bit of experience with fuel problems on a s/c 3.4. You will have pinging problems even with the 3.4 fuel system after s/c'ing. So head over to the www.tacomaterritory.com msg board for the fuel info. You will have to ask, the searchable database is not as good as PBB.

Also check www.gadgetonline.com for more fuel and ecm info on the 3.4.

I don't have answers to any of your questions. But if you do the swap, please post the info, don't just email to some other guy, SHARE!.

Friend of mine did the this swap and had to use the T100 gauge cluster as well. I was just easier than trying to match with the old stuff.

hehe, now people are coming out of the woodwork.

Obe1--thanks for the pics--you did a very clean installation. That 3.4 looks at home in the engine bay of that '87! I want one!

Actually I had that low rpm/ hi gear ping. I Called TRD and they gave me 3 fixes to try and solve the ping! One use 60-70% water to antifreeze instead of 50-50 if you climate will take that, sec Install 2 heat range lower spark plugs they suggested IK-22 Denso plugs and 3rd use a lower degree thermostat 160. I did all three changes and I don't any ping. Far as instruction for install changes from trk to trk.. and have info to share... by emailing me i will give you my number and you can drop me a call and i will be more that happy to work out details for your application based on my reserch and I can be specific. I wished I had this info before i got started...

Have a good one and I dont mind helping others.

Todd

My picts are on Ofto..... I will try and copy the link.. I am not use to being on a bbs... and I will help anyone that needs it... I just work better over the phone than by email....

Here is the link... to my photos at Ofto
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http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?c=836b5gj.e2wzujb&x=1&y=-kide99

do a copy and paste in your browser and sigh up.. all you need is a email and a password.. it is a free service..

Thanks Paddlenbike .... I worked very hard on it.. I have 12000 Miles since Ifinished it.

This was a little Problem... I used the 22rte senders for the oil pressure, and the temp gauge i used the 3.4L... the tach required a modification... I used the 3.4 p/s pump, Alt, and A/c compressor. It passed our emmission laws on the machine i call it without a problem. I also have OBDII compliant hookup for the scanner.

Todd

Originally posted by obe1_home@yahoo.com
This was a little Problem... I used the 22rte senders for the oil pressure, and the temp gauge i used the 3.4L... the tach required a modification... a resistor on the trigger inside the tach... to lower the thresh hold where the DIS would trigger the tach instead of the covential coil used on the 3.0 and 22r. I used the 3.4 p/s pump, Alt, and A/c compressor. It passed our emmission laws on the machine i call it without a problem. I also have OBDII compliant hookup for the scanner. If you are using an 99-02 with an coded key i can tell you how to disable it where you dont have to have the coded key where it can start.

Todd

You sound like a guru. You need to spend more time around this board.

That 3.4 is a sweet motor. I bet it kicks ass in that truck.

I checked out the photos and was very impressed. Good job man!!

It really runs very well!! the axle wrap is incredable with my soft springs and am looking for a well desigh Traction bar!! I can Put 3 trk links on the full size Chevs and Fords with V8's... from red light to red light...with 32 tall tires and 5.29 detroit locker and takes off pretty quick. Not very far running a supercharger!!! A sleeper!!!!!!! with a Turbo Emblem The really good part is it is all Toyota!!! and has the Toyota Relailibilty to go with it and comes stock to boot!!

This thread should just be re-titled "SHIT TALKING"

I want to replace my 3.0L V6 with a 3.4L V6 from a Tacoma (and eventually supercharge it ;) ). Correct me if I'm wrong:

My 3.0 V6 bellhousing (R150F) will bolt up to the 3.4L.
If I get the entire 3.4 wiring harness; the wiring should be manageable.
The intake and exhaust are opposite of mine and must be rerouted.
Since the replacement engine is newer, the smog czars will leave me alone. (I'm in CA)


Here's what I don't know:

Will the 3.4 bolt to the 3.0 motor mounts? Keep in mind that the T100s were available with both motors at one time, so there must be some simularity there.
If you put the 3.0 motor mounts on the 3.4, the motor is a direct bolt in. We just did this last Saturday.


Will the damn thing fit under the hoodline?

If you put the 3.0 motor mounts on the 3.4, NO, the upper intake hits the hood, but this can be worked around by either cutting a hole, doing a hood scoop of some sort or welding in a "bump" like an Eagle Talon has



I appreciate any help you can provide.

Yeah, I didnt read the whole thread, but those were my answers

I guess I should have read the thread.... its from 8 years ago!