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wheelinjp 08-05-2002, 05:45 PM Hey just a reminder for those without first aid kits get em. This weekend we went wheelin and my buddy lost almost half his thumb. Got smashed by the winch cable then ripped off. Of the three of us I was shocked to find I was the only one with a first aid kit and ice packs. Two hours later he got to the hospital and found they couldnt re-attach it. Luckily it was only the top of his thumb. Remember accidents do happen. IronBenderII 08-06-2002, 09:43 AM Shit! Hope he's okay. Good advice. I just got one that I'll be yarding around with me when I go out. People may want to rember to carry a belt with them to use as a (I won't be able to spell this right) turnicate. -Jack DustyM 08-06-2002, 11:01 AM All first aid classes I have taken in the last 10 years have advised against using turniquets. Apply pressure to the main pressure point instead. Yes I have a first aid kit in our rig. Plus a couple around the house and in the camper. offroadr35 08-06-2002, 02:18 PM Originally posted by DustyM All first aid classes I have taken in the last 10 years have advised against using turniquets. Apply pressure to the main pressure point instead. Yes I have a first aid kit in our rig. Plus a couple around the house and in the camper. that's not true. they advise against it unless the person is going to bleed to death. I believe their usual phrase is "lose the limb to save the life." -Steve nasvik 08-06-2002, 02:29 PM A tourniquet should be used as a LAST RESORT only! Yet another example of why more people should take a course teaching how to use the equipment in their first aid kit.... Paul crashinaz 08-06-2002, 02:42 PM The tourniquet is to be used when no other means can stop the bleeding... (They're usually only used in arterial injuries). The goal being to stop the flow of blood from the wound while keeping everything else supplied... A touniquet will stop the flow of blood to everything down-stream of it, which can (and will with time) damage all of the areas which haven't sustained a wound. NoBrainR 08-06-2002, 04:30 PM The minute you apply a tourniquet, you guarantee the everything past it will be removed. Direct pressure, and pressure points control the bleeding. I always carry my jump kit (extreme 1st aid kit) and am trained to use it. I feel that training, even if it's basic 1st Aid, is the most important. You'd be amazed at the things you can use to save a person's life or limb if you know what your doing. Of course the 1st aid kit also comes in handy. moveaside 08-06-2002, 06:22 PM Just curious how exactly did he get hid thumb in the way of the line anyhow? I hate winches they scare the shit out of me. Good point on the First Aid kit. How come they didn't try leeching the finger was it too smashed up? IronBenderII 08-06-2002, 06:39 PM I've been through the first aid courses as well. Turniquets can be necessary. When you're hours from help and direct pressure isn't slowing it down fast enough, turniquets are the only solution. To say that you don't use them is a dangerously incorrect statement. You don't put one on an arm when you have a sliver, but it's the only thing from keeping you from bleeding out, you have to do what you have to do. It's something that you should keep in your bag for the worse case situation. -Jack wheelinjp 08-07-2002, 03:32 PM Well moveaside, to answeryour question. He was guiding the cable in to keep it tight on the drum, with gloves on and in the last 12 to 8 inches tried to hook the cable hook to the frame hook. His thumb was on the inside of the two hooks. 8274 winches have the fastest line speed availableand it moved faster than he thought. Tournicates are definitely a last resort.They are to save a life and plan to loose the limb. The nurse at the hospital even said pressure points work way better. It still is ok to carry one just in case. The thumbs flesh was too shredded to reattach and the peice had no blood flow. It was all skin and thumb nail. He will have it all fixed in a couple weeks. He goes in for surgery tommorrow. moveaside 08-07-2002, 07:34 PM We had a girl at work lose the end of her middle finger on a lift gate sounds like you guys were in a hurry and it was just one of those things that happen so fast you can't believe it just happened. Same thing with her she had done that gate a thousand times was in a rush and next thing you know it was gone. Best of luck to your friend sorry to hear that and to everyone else me included lesson learned. Carry the first-aid kit:D I got two Travis Waldher 08-07-2002, 09:05 PM Originally posted by wheelinjp Well moveaside, to answeryour question. He was guiding the cable in to keep it tight on the drum, with gloves on and in the last 12 to 8 inches tried to hook the cable hook to the frame hook. His thumb was on the inside of the two hooks. 8274 winches have the fastest line speed availableand it moved faster than he thought. Tournicates are definitely a last resort.They are to save a life and plan to loose the limb. The nurse at the hospital even said pressure points work way better. It still is ok to carry one just in case. The thumbs flesh was too shredded to reattach and the peice had no blood flow. It was all skin and thumb nail. He will have it all fixed in a couple weeks. He goes in for surgery tommorrow. As long as he don't sue Warn for the speed of the 8274 like the guy from the first NWRCA tried to do a couple years ago with the 9500i. :rolleyes: | |