Below are pictures of the 4-seater chassis that Frankie Fountain of Frankie's Offroad is currently building for Dan Dibble (note: these were taken about two months ago) . . .

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Thanks, tvguy
There it is. No this is not the next EROCC champ but one hell of a trail rig. It will be way to big for comp.
I have some newer pictures I will get up tonight.
Now everybody PM Frankie and tell him to finish.
Dan

Looks sweet, I was down in Bham a few weeks ago and ran into a guy at the summit that said he knew Frankie, his name was Craig,(said hes just gettin in to wheelin and buildin a Toy) I would have loved to see Frankies shop, dude said its just a big building behind his house, from what I know of Frankie on here though, Im sure there some excitment somewere!!! Ill be back that way in December your 4 seater goin to be done? My buddy here has a 4 seater Toyota buggy (its for sale hes buildin a 4runner with 2.5s under it!!)

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/39d24934/bc/Yahoo!+Photo+Album/DWYANE.jpg?bcrK2d9AWMWy44MQ

I gotta say - I love it! I have been trying to find a 4 seater tube body style I liked, and I just found it :)

Originally posted by DRM
I gotta say - I love it! I have been trying to find a 4 seater tube body style I liked, and I just found it :)

You mean you couldnt picture a 4 seat scorpian before you saw this picture? Not picking on this design I understand form follows function, thats why all these full tube buggies look so damn similar. Hope to see some more recent pictures

Originally posted by NE-RokToy


You mean you couldnt picture a 4 seat scorpian before you saw this picture? Not picking on this design I understand form follows function, thats why all these full tube buggies look so damn similar. Hope to see some more recent pictures

IMHO - the 4 seater Scorpion looked too long, this one looks better, more compact...

These are the most recent ones I have. Note engine/trans/tcase have been mounted and floor pans are starting to take shape . . .

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we have maid some more progress on the asm chasie .
dan is coming by this wwekend maybe tv guy will come to and take more pics.
hey DRM i was bullshiting about the nasa toilet ha ha goy you didnt i .thanks for the complement on the chasie.
the scorpion and sniper is my standerd to build by but this machine may look like theme but it is much diferent.the fat city bronc has set me a new standerd that thing is awsome!
this chasie will have the following specs.
mod.#asm-2-4s
127 w.b.
4 seats
454 rat motor it will be rebuilt for masass torqe maybe 500 cubic inches
th400 tci manual valve body
atlas III transfer case
1410 yokes and joints
2,5 ton rockwells with flip hub conversion, rear chunk turned around for center drive shaft,pinion mounted willwood brakes,dual detroit lockers,howe double ended rams and custom steering links,
custom 4 wheel hyd. steer.
dual master cyl.and pedals
reverse 4 links
2.5 sway away coil overs
15x12 dual bead lock custom frankie locks
19.5x44x15 cut boggers they are new and he cut them
:eek: :eek:
this is all i can think of for now.:)

dude! how r u postin the pics? i attach the file and it never puts the pic on the posT!!! WTF!:rolleyes:

Newbies.... :rolleyes:

He's not posting pics, he's linking pics. :flipoff2:

thanks tv guy.:D

I'm just here to serve . . . BTW, when are we going to start seeing pictures of asm-3 and asm-4?

nice..... i just want to see your buggy at erocc.... and not in the parking lot :eek: :flipoff2: :D

Originally posted by Dan Dibble
Thanks, tvguy
There it is. No this is not the next EROCC champ but one hell of a trail rig. It will be way to big for comp.
I have some newer pictures I will get up tonight.
Now everybody PM Frankie and tell him to finish.
Dan

wow collierville. I used to be from germantown! crazy! :D

Originally posted by tvguy
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Originally posted by frankie fountain
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Got it! You need $229 . . . count me in!!! . . . er, wait . . . maybe that means you need rows and rows of money???????

Gimme a shout when you can....

Thanks tvguy for posting the pictures. Now everybody with a phone line connection will hate me.
Hopefully when Frankie gets all this EROCC shit out of his blood this sept. we will be able to finish my ride so I can put it under the Chistmas tree.
Thanks, Dan

dan you coming saturday what about you tv guy bring the gang lets throw a pool party .:D who els wonts to come by.

Frankie- You need to hurry up and finish Dan's chassis. I am tired of hearing him bitch about it everyother time I talk to him.:D Anyway ,you will have to build my cage soon and I want your undevided attention when building it. It is going to have to be lookin bad ass so you wont look stupid after you just lost to an almost stock TJ in the next compitition were in together.:flipoff2: ----Joey

Well, well, well... another Memphis guy joins the site. Welcome.




*** Shakes head ***



Wait... this is PBB, not TOR. GO AWAY. NEWBIE! :flipoff2:

Originally posted by RKCRAWLER
Frankie- You need to hurry up and finish Dan's chassis. I am tired of hearing him bitch about it everyother time I talk to him.:D Anyway ,you will have to build my cage soon and I want your undevided attention when building it. It is going to have to be lookin bad ass so you wont look stupid after you just lost to an almost stock TJ in the next compitition were in together.:flipoff2: ----Joey tell dan drink a 12 pack and play with his remote control chasie dans a great customer if all my customers where like him life woud be great he nows what he wonts and how to get it thanks dan for your trust and support.ps why is there only 6 heims in the box ha ha.
joy you smokin crack again just put yours out of gear and i will tow you we can come in 1st and 2nd your 2 nd he he.
bring it down after dans chasie leaves and we will fab up some bad ass cage work . joy how did you like the rollover you never lost your elvis suite and the red neck jump off the top of the chasie into knee deep mud your crazy man must be the crack you know the one in your dana 30 gears ha ha:D

Originally posted by TNToy
Well, well, well... another Memphis guy joins the site. Welcome.




*** Shakes head ***



Wait... this is PBB, not TOR. GO AWAY. NEWBIE! :flipoff2: they keep all the crazys in menphis ,joy is a elvis impersonater at night in downtown menphis he will work for dana 30 gear sets :D
thanks evil toy guy for all the pics you have posted at all the sites and threads you and steave thomas (tv guy) need to hook up you both have great skill at this stuff.
thanks tv guy for all your help and the pics and for starting on my web. site your asm 3 is going to be awsome .
i thank all that support me we will be at erocc in september.;)

Hey, Frankie! I just finished up the front suspension on my Sidekick today! Using your advise, things went fairly well. I do have some issues with the upper wishbone contcting the pinion under stuff, but I will treat that later. I'm headed to the rear now, and had a question for 'ya. I was leaning towards a reverse, upside-down 3-link. I was going to mount a wishbone on the bottom side of the axle housing with the "v" end located just under the rear t-case output. I was then going to truss the hell out of it and use it to protect the rear DS. I would then use either traditional links on the top or another wishbone to control the axle. Following me? Basically, it is I^I, with the ^ on the bottom, pointing at the t-case. It just seems like my I I links would be awfully short, and since they are on the outer edge of the housing, I think they will cause a lot of axle steer.
Ever heard of a Mono-link? My original plan was to run a beefy wishbone that was welded or bolted to the housing. This would use a panhard rod or an upper wishbone with a slip joint to locate the axle laterally. Think about this for a few seconds and then give me your opinion, please! I am going to continue to exploit you for your knowledge! That's what you get for proving me wrong!

Originally posted by twistedmetal
Hey, Frankie! I just finished up the front suspension on my Sidekick today! Using your advise, things went fairly well. I do have some issues with the upper wishbone contcting the pinion under stuff, but I will treat that later. I'm headed to the rear now, and had a question for 'ya. I was leaning towards a reverse, upside-down 3-link. I was going to mount a wishbone on the bottom side of the axle housing with the "v" end located just under the rear t-case output. I was then going to truss the hell out of it and use it to protect the rear DS. I would then use either traditional links on the top or another wishbone to control the axle. Following me? Basically, it is I^I, with the ^ on the bottom, pointing at the t-case. It just seems like my I I links would be awfully short, and since they are on the outer edge of the housing, I think they will cause a lot of axle steer.
Ever heard of a Mono-link? My original plan was to run a beefy wishbone that was welded or bolted to the housing. This would use a panhard rod or an upper wishbone with a slip joint to locate the axle laterally. Think about this for a few seconds and then give me your opinion, please! I am going to continue to exploit you for your knowledge! That's what you get for proving me wrong! i think a mono link will antisquot to much or as i call it jack up the suspension.i have no experiance with dual wishbone oposing each other ,but i have seen some pics and they seem to shove the axle to the oposite side on stuff or the compresion side of axle.the revers 4 or 3 link puts the long bars on the upper side of the axle and they are more paralale with the machine and shoud be at not much angle or much less than a stanard 4 or 3 link wich wiil cut down most or all of axle steer .how long will your links be if they are revers 3 or 4 link.how much angle do you think they will be at .where is suspension cycle at at ride height 50/50?

So you're actually saying that the upper links can be longer than the lower in this situation? What will this do to my pinion angle once axle is articulated? I think it is time to build another model so I can fully understand! I guess I was assuming that it would have to be similar to the front, with the uppers being slightly shorter than the lowers. I can get the upper links on the rear axle flat-no problem, I just am not sure about the lengths. The lower wishbone SHOULD be right around 36"-38" which means that my uppers should be....?


BTW, sorry to intrude on this thread. Just had a question for THE MAN, then I'll go away!

Frankie --your just jealous of my D-30 on my jeep.And I am CRAZY so you had better watch it come september!!!!:flipoff2: On the real though- I be down for EROCC cheering you on in september. I bring a six pack of whop ass for ya to open on anything that gets in your way in jellico... TNtoy--you had better watch it too:D

Originally posted by twistedmetal
So you're actually saying that the upper links can be longer than the lower in this situation? What will this do to my pinion angle once axle is articulated? I think it is time to build another model so I can fully understand! I guess I was assuming that it would have to be similar to the front, with the uppers being slightly shorter than the lowers. I can get the upper links on the rear axle flat-no problem, I just am not sure about the lengths. The lower wishbone SHOULD be right around 36"-38" which means that my uppers should be....?


BTW, sorry to intrude on this thread. Just had a question for THE MAN, then I'll go away! is your axle hi pinion?make them 28'' long and mount both links uppers and lower at 80% of distance of the axle mounts .i have only built 3 revers link systems and i am still testing.my links are longer on the top becaus i have very hi pinions and they mount at yoke horizontal line and vertical line my lowers are in the same V as you are doing and they are 75% of the length of the upper link length this set up keeps my caster at about 1 degree diffrence during full suspension cycle. if i did not have such a hi pinion this set up woud most likly bind the joints remember i have a steering axle for my rear axle so keeping caster during a jump is important for my machine. i think you need to use the standard my 4 link formula even on this revers 3 link becaus you need the shaft pointing at your transfer case yoke. so make your lower run parallal or cloes with your drive shaft and then make your uppers 75% of the length of your lower length .and mount them 80% at frame of the length of your axle mounts .examplle if your heims are 10'' virtical distance apart uper link to lower link then 80% of this is 8'' so then you will mount as cloes to this as possible at the frame.this formula has some antisquot .the more the traction and the steeper the hill the more antisquot it has but on level ground it stays cloes to level under power .;)

Sweet! I can't post any freakin' pics here, so I am going to bug you at home, again. Really sorry, It'll all be over soon!

its ok it is my job to serve fellow off roaders email me if i can help i will .;)

Hey,Frankie! I am appreciating all the help!
Are you making your own beadlocks or you are making custom wheels with beadlocks inside and out? If you are making beadlocks, I am very interested! I am just getting ready to make a purchase.

A 127" WB?:eek: That would be like wheelin my Suburban! Careful with that WB on steep hills, it might flip over!:D Any idea what the weight on that monster will be once completed? It looks like you were able to keep the steel down to a minimum with out losing any strength. Just curious...

Originally posted by twistedmetal
Hey,Frankie! I am appreciating all the help!
Are you making your own beadlocks or you are making custom wheels with beadlocks inside and out? If you are making beadlocks, I am very interested! I am just getting ready to make a purchase.

A 127" WB?:eek: That would be like wheelin my Suburban! Careful with that WB on steep hills, it might flip over!:D Any idea what the weight on that monster will be once completed? It looks like you were able to keep the steel down to a minimum with out losing any strength. Just curious...
127" WB is as short as we could make it and have four REAL seats. Take a seat and sit down in it and measure how many inches the seat and your feet take up. Remember this is not a full comp. rig. Not that we wont try a few. I can carry 3 spotters. (swedish bikini team) WMS has a rig thats 125" and he is climbing everything, and with only front steer. I will have 4-way to help in the tight spots. If you have never driven anything with 4-way steer, you will LOVE IT.
Weight ???? hopefully at 5500lbs or less. I have a big block, rockwels, tools, welder and batterys not the stuff that makes a light rig, but very reliable= fun.
I have some of the duel 32 bolt bead locks and they are great. Putting them together 64 bolts per wheel was a pain.
Dan

Originally posted by twistedmetal
Hey,Frankie! I am appreciating all the help!
Are you making your own beadlocks or you are making custom wheels with beadlocks inside and out? If you are making beadlocks, I am very interested! I am just getting ready to make a purchase.

A 127" WB?:eek: That would be like wheelin my Suburban! Careful with that WB on steep hills, it might flip over!:D Any idea what the weight on that monster will be once completed? It looks like you were able to keep the steel down to a minimum with out losing any strength. Just curious... yes i have the locks i will pm you the info.wheell base 127'' woud have made crows nest easy. ;)

Originally posted by Dan Dibble

127" WB is as short as we could make it and have four REAL seats. Take a seat and sit down in it and measure how many inches the seat and your feet take up. Remember this is not a full comp. rig. Not that we wont try a few. ..
Dan

I'm just kiddin'! I know what the plans are for it and it sounds AWESOME! Any pics of the beadlocks? I wanna' see some!
#5,500 is LIGHT for a rig with 2.5s and four seats. Very impressive. My wife won't let me bring any bikini-clad spotters. she's mean:(
I'm gonna take your advise(AGAIN) and move my upper wishbone mount higher up, Frankie. I am just fearing I may have starter/oil filter clearance issues. Figure it out as I go...

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last one. The shocks should be on by now. I cant wait to see it standing on its own feet.

Hey Mr.finland,
What about your rig for ERROC?? We want to see those pics too, or are you even building a rig for ERROC?? HMMMM might a Finland boy be scared, don't think so. Are you coming out to play or what?? Call me on Friday or something. I'll be closed Wed. and on thursday I'll be trying to move a 50,000lb rock with 2 track hoes for my rock course next to the shop in the big field. later

Frankie mentioned earlier that you were going to be running a TH400... and I assume this is still true...

So are those dual brake pedals, one for controlling each pinion brake? If so, looks damn nice... close enough you could control them at the same time, yet use both feet seperately when you needed it...

Very nice work Frankie... looks good!

Frankie/Dibble: whats the belly pan clearance on that BAD ASS rig?

Thats the same WB Im going to be running this summer.

Damn that thing is sexy:eek:! I want to build a 4 seater buggy in a few years when my Yoda :nuke: but I hadn't found a design I like... but this one is cool, I love the hood line. When it's done I would love to have i.e; pay money for really detailed specs. I'd love to have a layout with all the measurements like engine set back, total length, width, height everything. I'd like to rip off the overall design of your chassis but add my own little touches basically. I'm really looking forward to seeing it finished.

Travis

Design Flaw????:confused:


Ok, you can carry 2 extra people, that rocks, but Where are you gona put all the extra:beer: :eek:

Originally posted by Overkiller
Id like to rip off the overall design of your chassis but add my own little touches basically. I'm really looking forward to seeing it finished.
Travis
Here's all the pics I took of Frankies buggy (a 2-seater version of Dan's) back when Dan brought it into town.

http://home.off-road.com/~mithrandir/trails/04-28-02/

Originally posted by TNToy

Here's all the pics I took of Frankies buggy (a 2-seater version of Dan's) back when Dan brought it into town.

http://home.off-road.com/~mithrandir/trails/04-28-02/

Cool pictures. I miss riding in the Covington Pike bottoms. It looks like you went from Jackson, back towards Covington Pike. How much of the trails are still open?

scoutshonor: Yes I am working right now with TCI on a reverse valvebody turbo400 with compression braking. Question 2: Yes the chassis will have one front pedal and one rear pedal and being a driveline brake with detroit lockers it should turn circles around itself. (it will need to, being the size of a small school bus)

bgreen: Im not shure of ride hight yet. The shocks should be done tomorrow. Im going back over toi Frankies next Friday and I will get some pics with it off the jig.

Thanks again, Dan

BTW: my chassis looks much better than Frankies. :flipoff2:
Frankies chassis was cut up so many times, changing things it got looking disportional. But man we learned alot.

Why boggers??:confused:

Originally posted by Jeepmangled87
Why boggers??:confused:

Because he is from Tennessee and until Interco makes DRM's Bogger/SX/Thornturd hybrid pipedream in a 44" tire, the Tennessee boys will be runnin' cut Boggers....

Originally posted by Jeepmangled87
Why boggers??:confused: Have you seen the trails here in Tenn??? Have you seen 44in cut boggers w/5lbs of air ride these trails?? They are king in Tellico,Mount eagle, Chatt. Or the bottoms here in Memphis!! Especiall w/350+ HP!! That is a beautiful sight:eek: :D

That monster looks like a hummer out of its shell. By the way could I have a couple of the seeds from your and Camo's money trees? :D

That is looking sweet I cant wait to see the final product.

Originally posted by Flipper
Cool pictures. I miss riding in the Covington Pike bottoms. It looks like you went from Jackson, back towards Covington Pike. How much of the trails are still open? Jackson and Cov. Pike have been closed down for a long time. Everything to the west - from the mississippi river back to warford are still open.

Sound like a Alan Jackson song??? I like the agressive cut bogger for my reginal area. I still like the mud!!! Yes in a open chassis.
Now I wouldnt try these tires at Moab. I would get some of those huge 44x22 truxus

Hey Dan, that thing is SWEET! Is that Avalanche buggy still at Frankie's? If so, can you take pics of the 2 side by side to show some scale of yours? It should be about the size of a Suburban isn't it?

I'll get you some goggles and a rain suite if you'll bring it to the swamp!

John

Jig removed!!!!:D :D :D Standing on all four!!!:D

suspension is fully compressed. I plan to weigh it before ordering springs. 80.00$ X 8 springs (2 1/2 dia) I want to get it close first time.

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Dan

Where did he get this......I been looking for something like this....Phone # or web site would be good........Thanks....

Marine supply stores have those switch panels with the external fuses, thats where I got mine.

Hey Dan, In the first pic of it standing on all four, Is it sitting at ride height? Just wondering since you dont have the springs yet. The rig looks fawkin outstanding!! I really need to get out to tenn and see that thing in action. So whens the action pics??

CJ

The fuse panel is in Frankies old chassis, it was made by taylor.

The picture (standing on all four) is not ride hight it will be up about 6 inches from their. In that picture it is sitting on the shock bumpstops (fully compressed). I am shooting for a april completion time.
Dan

Originally posted by PYRO
Marine supply stores have those switch panels with the external fuses, thats where I got mine.

Thanks....I'll look around here but these local marine shops are a joke..... :(

will the rockwells hold up ok?

it looks SWEET!!

i am back !!!:flipoff2: ya !!

Originally posted by Shupee
Hey Mr.finland,
What about your rig for ERROC?? We want to see those pics too, or are you even building a rig for ERROC?? HMMMM might a Finland boy be scared, don't think so. Are you coming out to play or what?? Call me on Friday or something. I'll be closed Wed. and on thursday I'll be trying to move a 50,000lb rock with 2 track hoes for my rock course next to the shop in the big field. later hey shupee just keep lookin over your shoulder .

ya !

Wow. I have been looking at that thing for a while and I must say that is an awesome rig. I think that is the way REAL rock crawlers are supposed to be, high clearence, very stable, and big meats. For the tight competition type wheelin it may be a little hard but this guy could probably walk over some of those ledges and hills that the other buggies would be struggling to get up. I can't wait to hear how much it weighs. Keep up the good work.

Pics looking back from pass side, of the fuel cell X brace and rear winch mount.

Looking from the rear at rear winch mount and tow loop

winch and fuel (in place)

Last one for now. Skid plate, steering, and sheetmetal then I will bringing it home at the end of the month. :D :D

Originally posted by Dan Dibble
I like the agressive cut bogger for my reginal area. I still like the mud!!! Yes in a open chassis.Even the jeep guys around here run cut boggers. :D

Originally posted by thejeepjeepkid
Wow. I have been looking at that thing for a while and I must say that is an awesome rig. I think that is the way REAL rock crawlers are supposed to be, high clearence, very stable, and big meats. For the tight competition type wheelin it may be a little hard but this guy could probably walk over some of those ledges and hills that the other buggies would be struggling to get up. I can't wait to hear how much it weighs. Keep up the good work.

THANKS!!! I love hill climbing. The weight is gonna be somewere between 5500-6000lbs I know thats real heavy compaired to current standards. But I wanted reliability and four seats. I will have some numbers next month.

Dan

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Ok, the shock res. are not yet installed. It is still sitting at full compression because of no springs. I want to have it at full ride weight when I figure the spring rate. By the way we weighed it for the hell of it today and it weighed 4,780 lbs not to bad for a four seater with rockwells and a big block. Granted it had no drive shafts, steering cylinders, batterys,wire, beer, beer,etc. But I think it shuld weigh around 5500 when done. we will see.

THANKS FRANKIE FOUNTAIN :D :D :D

Dan

That turned out bad ass!! How long until you're on the trail??

That thing sure is purdy!! We(dan) hopes to have it done by April??? Hopefully!! I cant wait to try to break it!!:D

Originally posted by Dan Dibble
By the way we weighed it for the hell of it today and it weighed 4,780 lbs not to bad for a four seater with rockwells and a big block. Granted it had no drive shafts, steering cylinders, batterys,wire, beer, beer,etc. But I think it shuld weigh around 5500 when done. we will see.


Dan

DAMN!!! 720# more!! Thats alot of beer!!!! :D :D :beer:

CJ

Do you still have 1 more bogger to cut or am I missing something?

Actually I have the one on the chassis and the spair in the garage. Want to help? Im really good at drinking beer while someone else cuts the tires. :D :D
Dan

Originally posted by Dan Dibble
Actually I have the one on the chassis and the spair in the garage. Want to help? Im really good at drinking beer while someone else cuts the tires. :D :D
Dan You know what the easiest way to cut lugs off of a tire is, right?

Use a sawzall blade with the toothed side ground to a knife edge. Won't work for crap until it gets hot. Then its LIKE BUTTAH! Dan Sutter did all the lugs on his little 33s in like 5 seconds.

Okay, maybe not, but it's fast. :D

I found out about that after the first two tires. I never belived it would work. It works awsome with very little mess.
Dan

That thing is Radicool

Sweet man! Just out of curiosity, are those 5/8" heims or 3/4"?? I have been taking some slack from the locals for using 5/8" heims on my rockwells. From what I've seen they should hold up just fine.

QUOTE]Originally posted by elf_cruiser
Well, this is what they build Snipers with, and I've never heard of them breakin' suspension stuff, and YES they DO weigh as much as my rig. All the tabs are 3/16, and gusseted ;) which is pretty common for most shop built rigs. All the heims are chro-mo, and all the lowers are 5/8'", with a body stronger than a 3/4". The only 3/4" heims are up at the frame side of the upper links.

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By the way their is two snipers running rockwels with those joints.

Do you remember the Quagmire? Toptruck, fullsize chevy truck. Nos, bigblock, school bus rear axle 48" terra tires? I personally talked to the person who installed the 3/4" heim joints in that truck. And their have been no failures in 3-4 years.

I would say 95% of heim failure is in traction bars. "improper loading" Geometry of the links (or springs) fighting each other. (and shitty heims)

Suspensions when cycled go through arcs. If your arcs fight each other (cross) they will put unnessary stress on the whole suspension. Thus the heim will normally lose. Most people will just write it off and say these himes suck and buy bigger ones instead of fixing the real problem.

No I dont think everybody needs 3/4 heims. I had already purchased mine over a year and a half ago. Its funny how you didnt start to here about the OCCASIONAL 3/4 breakage untill the 1x 1 1/4 stuff came out. I have talked with many a "educated" rock crawling suspension gurus. And they said the 3/4 would be fine as long as my links dont bind or get bent. My links are 1.5 1026 seamless .500 wall lowers, 1.375 1026 dom .375 uppers. The tubing is threaded. I dont personally like inserts. (mayby ok for cro-mo)

I have a buddy running the same links and joints on a 5000lb plus early bronco for two years and have ripped the holes out of one of the shitty made brakets with still no heim failure.

Now had the 1x1 1/4 stuff been out when we started this loooong project I would have got them, just for INSURANCE but I had already spent a truckload of money on the 3/4 ones.

Alot of failures are just shitty joints they bought at their local hardware store or tractor supply

Frankie ran 3/4 heims and he did have a bad failure. But we concluded the 30 degree bends in the lower links to clear the tie rod was the cause for this failure. If the rod ends are being just pushed and pulled in a straight line they should be fine. Oh and his failure was a 70mph to dead stop emergency style with the brakes 90% biased to the front. All the other rod ends were fine.

Here is a tread that sat on the board for a few days with no real conclusion.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=108237&highlight=broke+joints

Im going to run the 3/4 and beat the ever living shit out of my rig and we will see what happens. By the way the rig loaded will weigh over 6000lbs (four people) If I can find three people to ride with me :D :D

Dan

P.S. Im going to post this in both elfs and my threads

Gotta be the best lookin 4 seater ever! Thats a pimp ride right there! :beer:

Originally posted by Dan Dibble
Im going to run the 3/4 and beat the ever living shit out of my rig and we will see what happens. By the way the rig loaded will weigh over 6000lbs (four people) If I can find three people to ride with me :D :D

Dan



That thing has Rattlerock written all over it! Let me know when you are headed this way, I'll ride with you. Yee-haa :flipoff2:

this project is taking forever! Here is a pic of the rear. No I havent ordered springs yet. I stated on the steering lastnight and hope to weigh and order the springs next week.

Trunk

dashboard:D

back seat, Im working on a center storage box for between the seats. Im sooo tired of the diamond plate work.

As everyone has said before, Nice work Dan, especially on the detail stuff. Which is where all the $$$ and time goes. Frankie did a nice job on that chassis too. Hope to see it on the trail someday.

Hers the rear steer lever t-case shifters and parking brake (thats right) this pic is not a hot.

When are you going to cut that other tire?:confused:

Originally posted by mudtruck44
When are you going to cut that other tire?:confused:

I get more questions about that tire. Im saving it for last or who ever wants to cut it :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Dan Dibble
dashboard:D


You have some VERY nice legs, Dan. You can take me "wheelin" anytime!:flipoff2:

Gonna be a hot somb8tch if you lean against it in the hot summer heat!

Dan - that's it, DAMMIT! I'm coming over. From what I understand, you live like 2 minutes from me, here in collierville. PM me directions - I'm cuting that fawking tire. :flipoff2:

Where have I been? I've never seen this thing before, and it kicks ass. I'd even go as far as to say that it could be better than camo's bus. OK, maybe if that back tire was cut and was a 50" bogger instead then it would be. 53" Michelins are hard to beat, but I love this rig.

Originally posted by DriveTime
Where have I been? I've never seen this thing before, and it kicks ass. I'd even go as far as to say that it could be better than camo's bus. OK, maybe if that back tire was cut and was a 50" bogger instead then it would be. 53" Michelins are hard to beat, but I love this rig.


YES I HAVE ROOM FOR THE 50" BOGGERS!!!!!!

WHO HAS THE HOOK UP ????????????

DAN

If you did get the 50" Bogger you'd wear out the tread before camo even got his Michelins mounted.

That thing is pimp!!!

who os the chick ???your wife is a brunet eh :confused:
you are doing a great job on the finishup on the chassis but you are slower than me:rolleyes: i was thinking i would see rooster tails by now o well you can ride in my chassis cause it will be running before yours what do you think about orange paint on my chassis :D

Frankie clean out your box WE HAVE TO TALK STEERING NOW

no thanks:flipoff2:













































realy no thanks....



ok i will clean it out:p

VERRRRRRRRY impressive! That thing looks schaweet!


*hides huge boner*

looks really great and now my friend is interested getting one for himself :)

Originally posted by Dan Dibble
Im sooo tired of the diamond plate work.

i think a new screen name is order how bout "Diamond Dan":eek: ,nice work:) .

That thing is Bad Ass!!

That looks awsome the shinyest 4 seater i've seen
:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

So what will be the final specs on that


Diamond Plate Dan:p

Very cool.

I love to follow threads like this with step by step build up pictures. Keep up the excellent work and attention to detail!

I would love to build a 4 seater buggy in the future and slap it onto one of my 404 Unimog chassis's. It wouldn't be as cool as yours though because yours was built from a pile of parts and miles of diamond plate.

Ok ok, i'm dying to ask (as i'm sure everyone else is). Is that a T-Maxx or an E-Maxx sitting in the top of your tool box?

Later.

Ken S.

looks like it might be a hummer looking vehicle

Any reason ya didnt shave those axles? or is that still on the list with cutting that tire?

That thing looks kick ass.

Ok I seem to remember a post that talked about this but here goes any way


Why do you have the tierod behind the rear axel?It would seem that this setup would be good for "Crab" steer (if you set it up for this then I understand)but it would seem for general "round" steer you would want the front axel to have the tierod behind and the rear axel tierod in front so that the turning radius would be the same going forward/backward (in round steer mode)??

Now that I think about it it seems like your buggy is set up not to use the rear steer all the time??? I guess I see an advantage to having the rearaxel tierod infront of the axel and a disadvantage to having it behind???

Just wondering If theres something Im not seeing??




Thanks for the inlightnment(sp?)
Jason

Thanks,

The axles will get the skids and paint when the frame is being powder coated.

The steering will have the front wheels controlled with the steering wheel and the rear with the lever between the seats. The rear axle will have the tierod bhind the axle ontop of the knuckles. The front axle was a bit more difficult, because of the drive shaft and the suspension links. I tried to keep it on the rear but their was just not enough room. I was going to have to build a gaurd for the front brake so Im just going to swap the knuckles from side to side and put the ram/tierods on the front.:( . As I get the rig running I may get with station and work on some differnt steering systems but for now I will be keeping it simple.

jstarnes, What would it matter where the tie rod is??? it does the same thing on front and back.
You wouldnt want a full 4way steer rig for use at speed, not opposed anyway.

unimogken, Thanks, I would have used those 1300u axles had I known about them. And yes thats my test machine E-MAXX great for experimenting with coilovers.

Thanks guys for the compliments, Diamond Dan

Originally posted by Dan Dibble




jstarnes, What would it matter where the tie rod is??? it does the same thing on front and back.
You wouldnt want a full 4way steer rig for use at speed, not opposed anyway.




to turn as tight of circle as you can it would matter (to do this you would want the rear axel tierod on the front axel)(I think they call it acrmen(sp cauz im dum)

and I agree with you on the speed thing

DONT get me wrong Im not trying to give you sh!t I think the rig Is VERY cool and looks to be well built I was just wondering if the was a certian reason you built it that way???Its your rig Im not saying its you should change it

Ackerman angle is a function of the steering arm angles in relation to the vehicle centerline as opposed to the tierods placement either before or behind the axle.


This link should help explain it. (http://www.rctek.com/handling/ackerman_steering_principle.html)


I know the page is for RC cars, but the principals are the same for real cars, trucks, and of course 4x4's. There is of course some debate about the usefulness of ackerman angle for an off road rig since we arenot concerned with high speed handling on the road.

ok so if you click the link and go about half way down to the part where it talks about angled steering arms and look at the pic with 36* and 25* and picture this as the front then picture the same pic fliped 180* this will be how im saying it should be IF you want to set up your front and rear steer for the tightest circle turn

the way Dan's is set up would be (if using the sample pic) inner front tire at 36* and the inner rear tire would be at 25* In a circle steer condition so the tires would not track in the same path(the rear end would want to walk out in a kind of off set circle path)BUT would walk sideways(well kind of sideways I call it crab steer) very well

The only thing I wanted to know is was this done for a reason??
and if so what reason?? Im not trying to see if I can piss up a pole farther than any one:flipoff2:


Jason

Originally posted by jstarnes
ok so if you click the link and go about half way down to the part where it talks about angled steering arms and look at the pic with 36* and 25* and picture this as the front then picture the same pic fliped 180* this will be how im saying it should be IF you want to set up your front and rear steer for the tightest circle turn

the way Dan's is set up would be (if using the sample pic) inner front tire at 36* and the inner rear tire would be at 25* In a circle steer condition so the tires would not track in the same path(the rear end would want to walk out in a kind of off set circle path)BUT would walk sideways(well kind of sideways I call it crab steer) very well

The only thing I wanted to know is was this done for a reason??
and if so what reason?? Im not trying to see if I can piss up a pole farther than any one:flipoff2:


Jason
no reason.
the four wheel steer turns good as it is.
but i am not saying you are wrong just that there is not any problem with how it would turn now.;)

Originally posted by jstarnes
ok so if you click the link and go about half way down to the part where it talks about angled steering arms and look at the pic with 36* and 25* and picture this as the front then picture the same pic fliped 180* this will be how im saying it should be IF you want to set up your front and rear steer for the tightest circle turn

the way Dan's is set up would be (if using the sample pic) inner front tire at 36* and the inner rear tire would be at 25* In a circle steer condition so the tires would not track in the same path(the rear end would want to walk out in a kind of off set circle path)BUT would walk sideways(well kind of sideways I call it crab steer) very well

The only thing I wanted to know is was this done for a reason??
and if so what reason?? Im not trying to see if I can piss up a pole farther than any one:flipoff2:


Jason

You are correct. But the only time this would be of concern would be it I was turning big circles and was worried about it. I have driven a 4 wheel steer chassis with 9" of front travel and only 7" rear and never noticed the rear not following the front.

I have to ask have you driven a 4 wheel steer rig? Not some silverado but a real controlable 4 wheel steer?

Dan

Hey Dan, Rig is looking excellent!
What kiind of valve are you using for the rear steering and where did you get it?:beer:

Originally posted by broncorob
Hey Dan, Rig is looking excellent!
What kiind of valve are you using for the rear steering and where did you get it?:beer:

Thanks, The rear steer control valve is a Gresen part number 400-1500

I got it from a friend

Dan

Originally posted by Dan Dibble



I have to ask have you driven a 4 wheel steer rig? Not some silverado but a real controlable 4 wheel steer?

Dan

I have driven more 4wheel steer forklifts than I care to count and not just one model but quite a few different ones (cat,lull,skytrak,etc) also povit steer gradall's if you realy want to know?

I really dont think it matters if the tie rod is in font or rear of the axle just have to set it up a little different

you are corect the steering will travel in diffrent paths ,but the rear steer is only for manuvrability it hard spots not at hi speed or the highway for that matter.;)

Oh alright.... I'll ask since no one else has.... Whos the hotty?

Later.

Ken S.

Originally posted by unimogken
Oh alright.... I'll ask since no one else has.... Whos the hotty?

Later.

Ken S.

She a friend of my wifes. I bet she couldnt get in the chassis with that skirt on.;)

Shes 24 and single. Im gussing when she comes on a ride with us it wont be a problem filling the other seat. :D

Dan

dan, all the work you've done looks great. now i know why it is taking so long. what is the lever next to the rear steer valve, it looks like a parking brake, but i don't remember hearing you mention one.

Ok I know I should have updated this thread. Im going to add build up links here to keep this all together then some of the latest pics. The link in my sig is all the *red Xed pics and more*

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72960

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=126357

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=146666

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=149003

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=151575

gm 2002 orange/red

Hurts to look at it:eek:

another

Thanks to RICKS POWDER COATING in Olive Branch Mississippi.

662-893-3455

I said 4 mills please:eek: almost too much!!

AAAAAAAGGGGHHHH!! MY EYES!!! :eek: :flipoff2:

Hey at least it will be easy to find in a Wal-Mart parking lot! :D

Dan, it looks great! i cant wait to come see it in person. give me a call when you get back in town when its convienient.:eek:

Looks awesome! Have fun putting it back together. :flipoff2: :p

Originally posted by indulf
holy cow, whats that thing weigh? :p What you see there (about a million feet of tubing and a LOT of ~1/8" steel for the floor)... is 1,200 pounds alone.

Originally posted by Skippie
Looks awesome! Have fun putting it back together. :flipoff2: :p


Thanks, Its all downhill from here.:D :p :D


Dan

So you built it, had it pretty much complete, then you took it all appart to have it powder coated?:eek:

Looks Awesome!

I see you finally started cutting that Bogger, still need to finish. :p

Diamond plate getting paint or staying as is?

Originally posted by Dan Dibble
I said 4 mills please:eek: almost too much!!

ok, I'm dumb, WTF am I looking at:confused:

Originally posted by rEdNEcKwHeE1eR


ok, I'm dumb, WTF am I looking at:confused:

I was thinkin the same. Is he referring to the thickness that the powder was applied???

Originally posted by rEdNEcKwHeE1eR
So you built it, had it pretty much complete, then you took it all appart to have it powder coated?:eek:

Yep, not that I dont have other things to do. I dont live in Az the metal will rust in the garage.

Originally posted by wv4runner
Looks Awesome!

I see you finally started cutting that Bogger, still need to finish. :p

Diamond plate getting paint or staying as is?

The diamond plate on the sides will stay silver, but the hood and trunk will be black.

Dan

Originally posted by rEdNEcKwHeE1eR


ok, I'm dumb, WTF am I looking at:confused:

That is the radiator hold down. The powder coating on it is like rubber. (way thick).

Dan

Originally posted by rEdNEcKwHeE1eR
OK, I'm dumb, WTF am I looking at:confused: Dan already said it, but it's the clamp for the radiator: A bolt goes through that hole right next to the tube, and as you tighten it, it clamps the radiator down into a little saddle built onto a tube at the bottom of the chassis. :)

Bunch of random pics: Dan has a lot of overall shots of the rig in here, but not many of some of the details:
Front view

Motor mounts/firewall

Firewall #2

T-case bucket/ 4link mounts...

Tranny/T-case mount, another angle:

Engine bay side:

Passenger cabin

Fuel cell and trunk area... last one

damn - frankie is one BAD man...

Dan, you should bring that thing out here to AZ and break it! Got plans for thanksgiving?

Is the hood going black just for glare reduction?

Pretty much. I told him I think he should do ALL the panels in black, but his idea is to just do the stripe down the center in black and "leave some bling" on the fenders. We'll see.

I'd do it in all-black-paneling just cuz it would look sweet (IMO)... and so people standing next to it wouldn't be blinded when the sun caught it. That sucks big time... he's got all the panels along the shop wall, and if the sun is out theres a huge area you can't stand in if you wanna see. :(

This thing back together yet Dan? Can't wait to see pics.....:cool:

Originally posted by wv4runner
This thing back together yet Dan? Can't wait to see pics.....:cool:

*picture* Chassis is sitting on floor. Axles sitting under hoist waiting to be rebuilt. I have all the seals, pans and lockers. Transmission goes to TCI next week. After the axles get back in the motor will get a "light" rebuild.

I have 97% of the parts to put it together. Just no time. I promise to work on getting the axles close this weekend.

Should be running by the end of Oct.


Thanks for the kick in the ass.;)

Dan

Holy sheet that looks awesome already! :D

Dan's new buggy is awesome. Personally, I love four seater buggies. Very multi-purpose. Great for both family wheeling weekends with a cooler strapped to the back and for scaring the pants off three of your best friends.

Here is mine:

Any updated pics of it??


I cant wait to see this beast done and on the trail!!!!!!

I was over therelast night. He's making good progress... one axle has been completely rebuilt and is ready to swing under there. The other is next on his list and will take the next 1.5-2 weeks.

Then the Tranny goes off to TCI for a full manual valve body w/ compression braking, the heads off the 454 are gonna get checked out while he goes through the bottom end, and after that it's finaly assembly time. :D But as for right now, no new progress pics. Chassis is on the shop floor covered in plastic while he works through the axles.

Hey Dan: I think I just figured out why you don't mind when I come over: I'm on PBB when people are asking you all these questions, and by the time you log in at night, I've saved you a lotta typing. :flipoff2:

09-27-03 DOWN HILL BABY:D

ASS

that is one of the nicest rigs I have seen. I love this, since the first time I saw pics of it. you along with elf, convertiyota, and a few others have really turned me on to the rockwell thing. too bad I'm a student with no money. I'm envious to say the least.

Whats up with the one bogger not grooved.....Hey I'm just joking.

This rig rocks!!

dan groove that GD` bogger now:flipoff2:

l@@kin good dan you sure are keeping your end of the deal up nice work:beer: for you and one for me;)

ITS ALLLLLLIVE
http://www.gcwriters.org/frankenstein.gif

BTT :flipoff2:

More parts are going on. This weekend I will finish the storage boxes, front winch, then im starting on the motor, and hope to have it done in two weeks. Its just getting freshened up.
Then springs, exhaust, shafts, hydro lines and wire:D :D

Got the trans back from TCI last week.
Full competition 400 config.
reverse valve body, compression braking
atlas 3.8 32/32 1410/1410

More pics in the sig. line

Dan

Last one for now.

We need a name for the monster :D

I am very impressed with how that is comming out. I realy dig that chassis it is prob the nicest 1 I have seen. Kepp up the great work u have a very pimp rig

Man that thing looks sweet! Awesome work Dan and Frankie:cool:

Can't wait to see some pics of this thing in action.

this thing is looking awesome!! i cant wait to see it covered in this memphis mud :flipoff2:
when is your estimated weekend for her maiden voyage? i know i'd like to see it. hot springs right? i'll try to bring the low tech mud truck if not, i'll be on my polaris sp500:)
Ronnie

We need a name for the monster
how about "Umgawa" it used to be a drag car around here. but its a cool name. i think its american indian for "go"

Originally posted by Rockwell Ron
this thing is looking awesome!! i cant wait to see it covered in this memphis mud :flipoff2:
when is your estimated weekend for her maiden voyage? i know i'd like to see it. hot springs right? i'll try to bring the low tech mud truck if not, i'll be on my polaris sp500:)
Ronnie

Thanksgiving weekend, Im dissasemling the engine right now. And then off to Pro Block in the morning.:D :D


Dan

Storage boxes are finished.:p

very sweet. ... damn I cant think of much else to say. I wish I had a rig like that. jesus, I hope and pray that I happen to come across you at tellico one of these days if and when I ever get the chance to go back. keep up the great work although it looks like you are on your final stretch now.

Originally posted by Dan Dibble
Storage boxes are finished.:p
Turned out really good, since it appeared you were attempting to cut the holes in the cupholder with some sort of dull hatchet when I was over there. :p

Originally posted by TNToy

Turned out really good, since it appeared you were attempting to cut the holes in the cupholder with some sort of dull hatchet when I was over there. :p

I got that hatchet out just when you pulled up. ;) It worked because you didnt stay very long.:flipoff2:

Just finished pulling the heads off the motor and installing the front winch.

Looking at the pic (shocks) it seems its time for a front end adjustment. Ill put that on the list:p

Thanks for the compliment, joes75bronco

I am planning on a trip to Tellico in April.

Dan

Originally posted by Dan Dibble
Last one for now.

We need a name for the monster :D

whats the gas bottle for? tell me this thing doesnt have on-board mig:eek:

Originally posted by braxton357


whats the gas bottle for? tell me this thing doesnt have on-board mig:eek:

I do carry a ready welder but I use flux core wire. The 5lb bottle is co2 for emergency tire filling.


Thanks, Dan

Originally posted by Dan Dibble
Storage boxes are finished.:p

Cupholder turned out nice Dan, rig is really turning out very nice.
You gonna have to beat those women off with a stick in that thing:D

Are you worried about the yellow top getting covered in mud in its current location, or is there a battery box/cover that is going over it that just isnt in place yet?

Motor is in (not finished)

Originally posted by Dan Dibble
Motor is in (not finished)

Wow, that thing is looking pretty blingy...

side

other side

:)

what do you do for a living?

You missed a couple of lugs......

Bling Blang Bloom...Akthough that bogger still isnt cut. Gonna be the last thing you do huh..

Originally posted by snoop dogg
what do you do for a living?


I'm a aircraft mechanic for FedEx


Dustin Smith, "You missed a couple of lugs...."

I,m not shure how that happened. Its on the list,.................last.



Dan

exhaust

Street Performance coated short headers (4 bolt collecters) into 2.5" tubes to a 2.5/3.5 Y (SINGLE) 3.5 Spintec muffler.


I did this with mandrel J bends from Summit Racing.

Dan

29.5" at the belly. Nicholas is helping me:D

your exhaust pics didnt show up. And I see why you made it a four-seater :D

NICE JOB GUY'S!!!

That goes for Dan and Nicholas. :)

Sean

That looks sexy!!!!!!!

Love the cage colour.....................

Originally posted by braxton357
your exhaust pics didnt show up. And I see why you made it a four-seater :D

Sorry, Fixed now:D

Originally posted by Dan Dibble


Sorry, Fixed now:D

nopenopenope :(

Originally posted by Dan Dibble



I'm a aircraft mechanic for FedEx


Dustin Smith, "You missed a couple of lugs...."

I,m not shure how that happened. Its on the list,.................last.



Dan


hey dan, you guys hiring? i need a 4 seater buggy too ;)


buggy looks great man,next time i get down that way,i need to see it in person :)

BTW- i wish you would get those lugs done so everyone would STFU about them :flipoff2:

man, thats sweet, very well done!

Originally posted by sceep


nopenopenope :(

DAMIT I HATE LINKED PICS. IM POSTING THEM TO PIRATE NOW:mad:

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3

Originally posted by Toyotafourwheeln



hey dan, you guys hiring? i need a 4 seater buggy too ;)


buggy looks great man,next time i get down that way,i need to see it in person :)

BTW- i wish you would get those lugs done so everyone would STFU about them :flipoff2:


No unfortunatly we are not hiring :( nobody is. Right now is a shitty time to be in the avation industry. I AM VERY LUCKY, that seven years ago I made the decision to work for FedEx and not a passenger airline or I too would be looking for a job right now.

For all those that have lost their job, my prayers are with you durring this tough time:( .

FUCK Usama bin Laden and Al-Qai'da
:mad: :mad:


Ok, whoever is traveling through and wants to come by for a beer, just pm me when, and its done.:D :p


The tire ??????? Im not shure what tire???? ;)


Thanks All for the support,

Dan

yo diamond dan ya cranked that thing yet .... call me

hey Dan,how far is Collierville from morristown?

even have any idea where that is? all i know is it is eastern Tn.

my wifes' friend is dating a guy that lives down there and they are talking about going down next weekend or something,not sure yet.he says he is about an hour from Tellico :D i think im just gonna have to trailer my junk down and go with them ;)


Jeremy

Originally posted by Toyotafourwheeln
hey Dan,how far is Collierville from morristown?

even have any idea where that is? all i know is it is eastern Tn.

my wifes' friend is dating a guy that lives down there and they are talking about going down next weekend or something,not sure yet.he says he is about an hour from Tellico :D i think im just gonna have to trailer my junk down and go with them ;)


Jeremy


Uh I live where it says "start" morristown is where it says "end"

7 hours. But you are more than welcome to stop by.;)

i like your carb cover in the first pic on this page!!!

that buggy is cooler than anything i'll ever be able to build

mad props on the good looking buggy

can't wait to see it covered in about 3 foot of mud!!!!:flipoff2:

Well I drove it today for about a hour around town. Shit was crazy. Ran great, exhaust sounds good and deep.

I will get some more close ups posted later tonight.:D :D :D :D :beer: :beer:


Dan

Looks great nice to see it up and rolling. I see u kinda cut that bogger..lol now just get to the rest of it!. Congrads on a well built rig.

Nice to see it mobile under it's own power. Finish cutting the left front tire.

damn. I'd give my first born for that. super job.
and to continue the harassment- cut the friggin tire!

haha, must see more pics.

WOW, Awesome job Dan. I love that thing. :cool:

Is there anything else left to do (other than that tire of coarse :flipoff2:)?

Can't wait to see some action pics!! :D

did ya get any wiered looks driving it around town? Looks great!

Man that rig is:smokin:! :eek: :eek:

Diamond Dan:flipoff2:

That is the only 4 seater buggy that really touches me:emb2:


looks great man

Glad to see it's alive. Sorry you missed Summertown on the 1st. It was great.

Actually, I have no clue how it was. I had to work... kinda glad you didn't finish it so I still have a chance to catch its debut. :)

Lemme know when is good to come over later this week. I wanna DRIVE IT. :grinpimp:

Here are some more pics. I have added others to the picture page in the link in my sig. line below. If someone wants a close up ask and I will post it.


Thanks, Dan

j

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damn dan,that is great looking :eek:


if i had something that nice,it would never leave the garage since i would be afraid to get it dirty :) i just hope to be able to make something that is halfway as nice and well built as that

so did ya get hassled at all driving around town??



jeremy

I passed two cops and they just wavied. I have found that if you drive normally (no speeding, burnouts, ect.) you dont have a problem. I have it registered as a 78 1/2 ton chevy 4x4 with some mods.;)

Dan

The finished buggy looks kick-a$$!!!!

You need to post some videos of this thing moving under its own power. (sound would be nice too)

Congrats dude.

Looks good...

Couple questions..

Is it your rig that is extremely huge and makes the links look really tiny, or are they really that tiny?

And from observation looks like your foot holes may turn into a good spot for mud to fill up and enter the rig :)

Sweet rig man :D

Originally posted by Todd W
Looks good...

Couple questions..

Is it your rig that is extremely huge and makes the links look really tiny, or are they really that tiny?

And from observation looks like your foot holes may turn into a good spot for mud to fill up and enter the rig :)

Sweet rig man :D


Upper links are 1.25 .375 wall 1026 dom lowers are 1.5 .5 wall 1026 dom.

The size of my rig depends on where you are standing, when veiwing it. If you are west of the Mississippi it is HUGE but if you are east of the Mississippi its normal size.:D

Dude Im not worried about those foot holes. If a cut bogger gets into the mud you will get dirty, regardless.

Thanks, Dan

Nice hood prop! :D Great looking buggy.. glad to see you have it running... now all we need is some trail shots!

What mufflers are those ?

One muffler 3.5 in 3.5 out Spintec. Sounds great. Real deep.:D

Dan

Cool! They don't look very space consuming. I was going to get some flowtechs but they are kinda bulky. These are pretty expensive I take it? (since everything else on your rig is do damn bling:flipoff2: )

Originally posted by Starslope
Cool! They don't look very space consuming. I was going to get some flowtechs but they are kinda bulky. These are pretty expensive I take it? (since everything else on your rig is do damn bling:flipoff2: )

It was like 130.00 delivered. I called Spintec. Mine is a sportsman XL

http://www.spintechmufflers.com/spintech/spintechindex.asp

How does your rear steer gauge work? Amazing buggy buy the way

Nice four seater you have there.

How well does it steer/road feel on the street?
Nice Rig.
Chris.

Originally posted by mjs408
How does your rear steer gauge work? Amazing buggy buy the way


Thanks,

I used a fuel gauge and sending unit. The sending unit is attached to the lower shock mount on the axle and is articulated by the knuckle. I had it working but I still need to get the length of the arm correct (ratio). It shows center real well but as you steer right or left the porportion is not correct. I have converging arcs. We are not shure how long it will last in the dirt/mud/water.

It was just a gee wiz thing I wanted to try.

Originally posted by ccrane
How well does it steer/road feel on the street?
Nice Rig.
Chris.


It drove 100% predictable no suprizes. The donuts with the rear steer are insane on the street (I need to get a vid) It will plane make you sick. Driving in circles seems normal at minimum throttle but when you lite them up and the lockers lock, it spins on a dime (cyclone like the monster trucks).

Anyway I havent put it on the rocks yet. We are heading to Hot Springs for the week end so I should have some good pics and storys Monday night.

www.orvpark.com

Dan