So if you had no choice but to have a small 22LR handgun for Zombies what would you load it with?

What would you use for plinking?

What about suppressed plinking?

What if you needed to drop a Zombie from 5-10 feet and didn't want anyone to hear the shot?

CCI mini mags

Aguila SSS


Aguila SSS

remington brick ammo, its cheap and reliable. Get larger magazines if you're worried about the other zombies hearing it

Remington rimfire is bottom of the barrel shit. But its cheap shit, just depends on your priorities.

Federal from walmart. works well, copper plated so it fouls less and cheap

If I don't want them hearing it, use a knife or a baseball bat. 5-10 feet is hand to hand range. 2, maybe 3 steps.

It works very well if their back is turned to you

If I had a Class whatever the fawk license you have... I'd have a fawking silencer if I didn't want them to hear it... DUH!!!!!!!!

Remington rimfire is bottom of the barrel shit. But its cheap shit, just depends on your priorities.

x2 on Remington being bottom barrel crap. As soon as I finish off the 750 rounds of their crap I still have sitting around I'm never going to buy their stuff again.

Federal from walmart. works well, copper plated so it fouls less and cheap

I guess I'll have to force myself to go to that dreaded place and pick some up. I just hate having to go there.

Cricket bat or old vinyl records of course.:D

When operating my "clandestine neighborhood squirrel remover," I tend to use the Remington Sub Sonics. I have also used the CCI Sub Sonics. While shooting a comparison test (firing the CCI vs. the Remingtons) I noticed that the CCIs are quieter than the Remingtons, but really only enough that you had to listen intently to tell a difference. The Remington Sub Sonics are easier for me to acquire than the CCIs and I have had success with both, but usually use Remington because that's what I can pick up at Wal-Mart and that's what I sighted the gun in with.

Now when not trying to be sneaky I just use the Winchester hollow point box of 550 you can buy just about anywhere. They're as accurate as any others that I've used. Now as a youth, while competing in shooting sports competitions we all used Federal ammo. Now we shot a lot, and I remember having more no-fires with the Federal than anything else I had used. This is likely to be directly related to the massive quantity of rounds we went through, meaning that the more we shot the more no-fires we were likely to encounter. That's been almost 12 years ago so that may not matter. Nothing against Federal though; I know that I like the Federal Power and Vital Shok in my .270 better than any other equally priced ammo.

Now if your killing Zombies I'd seriously consider a larger round, or perhaps a revolver that can shoot .22 Mags and .22 LR.

Both the CCI and Remington quiet rounds are fine for stuff like squirrels and rabbits, but when you start getting into thicker skinned stuff you need to be a lot closer to your target to get adequate penetration. In short a full fledged .22LR like the Winchesters mentioned earlier will blow holes in turtles in the pond at 30+ yds. where the Sub Sonic rounds will often skip off at the same distance.

But if your only 5-10 ft from said zombie, pretty much anything you get should do the job. As a kid I had to euthanize a calf that broke it's back with a .22 short point blank. So if a short will go through a calf's skull point blank, then a few well placed sub sonics should dispense of any zombie at that close of range, depending on how much meth the zombie is on.

Cliff Notes:

Plinking, anything cheap (Winchester hollow points)

Suppressed Plinking, CCI or Remington Sub Sonics

Zombie killing, bigger round, or anything you can get your hands on if you're really going to be that close to them.

- Lee

Federal from walmart. works well, copper plated so it fouls less and cheap

x2
550 Rounds for $13 and none of my guns have any problems with it.

All I shoot in autos (and most other guns) is CCI mini-mag.
They are hot enough to cycle when dirty.

When I am taking kids out shooting with a bolt action or revolver, I get what is cheap.
I regularly use CCI CB shorts in a 22 revolver to knock coons out of trees.
The long rifle often leaves and exit wound (damaging the hide).
Quite often the coon comes out of the tree still alive, it is up to the dogs to make sure he doesn't get away. I think that it their favorite part. :laughing:

aqueduct penetration
Good one.

If it is going to have a can, I'd see if it will stabilize aguila sniper subsonics, they rock out of a suppressed pistol.

Remington subsonics give me tons of misfires, sometimes as much as 25%. The federal subsonics are supposed to be awesome with its segmented hollow point, but I have not tried them.

Good one.


What you don't make sure that your aqueducts have proper penetration? :flipoff2:


How the hell do you think the Romans maintained adequate "flowage?"


Damn it can't ya just let lexdysic person type? I'll fix it for you.

- Lee

I'd like to know if anyone knows of a good online source for cases of .22 LR.

A few years ago, I bought a case of Federal standard velocity for ~$150, but I don't remember where.

If I had a Class whatever the fawk license you have... I'd have a fawking silencer if I didn't want them to hear it... DUH!!!!!!!!

:shaking::shaking:

I have one. Or 4 :flipoff2:

The idea though is that with sub sonic ammo it's even quieter.

I am wondering what is the most devastating 22lr super sonic and sub sonic I can find?

Like whats the Hydroshock +p equivilant :D

Zombie killing, bigger round

I know :D But with the condition that all you had was a .22 semi auto handgun.... what would you use?

I have been out of the .22 game for ohh 25+ years. Back then CCI hollow points would dispatch coons, squirrels, skunks, rats, etc with out any problem.

I don't think it really matters what you use. A .22 puts holes in things just like everything else.

The Velocitors or whatever they're called are supposed to have a Gold Dot bullet, that'd probably be the most devistating.

But I'm willing to beat the cheap stuff makes them just as dead.

So if you had no choice but to have a small 22LR handgun for Zombies what would you load it with?

CCI Mini-mags

What would you use for plinking?

CCI Mini-mags

What about suppressed plinking?

Whatever sub-sonic cycled the action in my particular gun well.

What if you needed to drop a Zombie from 5-10 feet and didn't want anyone to hear the shot?

CCI Mini-mags


Why don't you bring up which pistol you will be using as well so we can start another P22 flame war with the haters? :flipoff2:

I will NEVER buy that freaking Remington value pack stuff again, I picked up a box of the Remington Golden Bullet HP Value Pack and all that "gold" rubbed off on my hands loading it and all over the inside of my magazines and gun.

I'll stick with the cheap bulk Federal for now, I get it at Bi-Mart.

remington yellow jackets are pretty good at destroying meat, but won't cycle in some guns.

In a P22 the federal brick says at 950 fps...which is sub sonic...so yeah all around federal bulk pack

I like Remington, but I don't like their cheap .22 fodder. Golden Bullets can KMA.

remington brick ammo, its cheap and reliable. Get larger magazines if you're worried about the other zombies hearing it

You damn dirty ape. Remington turdbolts or similar is the dirtiest, low down, more fouled up, crappy ammo you could use.....I can see why you like it.

:flipoff2:

Walmart makes me want to punch kittens, so when I'm forced to go there I buy 10 boxes of Federal bulk .22 at a time. It used to be $11, now it's like $14 for a box of 550, accurate, reliable and cheap, what more could you ask for? The copper jacket keeps my .22s pretty clean, the actions usually get a little coated from the powder, but that's only an issue when I'm shooting more than 500rds in a sitting, a quick wipe with a swap is all it takes to get back in the game.

I want to try some of the subsonic stuff (no suppressors allowed out here) but the cheapest I've seen it locally is like $0.10/rd, for that price I'd rather shoot reloads from my XD.

Weapon of choice would be my Ruger 22/45, when I run out of ammo it's got more than enough heft to beat back the zombies while I reload.

Normal subsonics are really a waste in a pistol without a can, they aren't much quieter than a regular round.

Walmart makes me want to punch kittens, so when I'm forced to go there I buy 10 boxes of Federal bulk .22 at a time. It used to be $11, now it's like $14 for a box of 550, accurate, reliable and cheap, what more could you ask for?

I would ask that those bulk packs go back to $8.97/550 like they were this summer.

Remington is shit. Federal has worked very well for me. Also CCI Mini Mags seem to be good quality in auto pistol 22's

Walmart makes me want to punch kittens

Why?

P22 from the funshow with YHM mite can (not here yet)

I got a 550 brick of federal.

Ran through 200 today with out a single problem.

I love the P22 :flipoff2:

I also put another 600rds through the space gun. Not a single failure. Cooked the duracoat off the can :D

P22 from the funshow with YHM mite can (not here yet)

I got a 550 brick of federal.

Ran through 200 today with out a single problem.

I love the P22 :flipoff2:

I also put another 600rds through the space gun. Not a single failure. Cooked the duracoat off the can :D

Do you have any Mosquitoes you could send out for testing?

:evil:

For the most devastating 22lr super sonic round I like cci stingers.

For the most devastating 22lr super sonic round I like cci stingers.

CCI pooped out the Velocitor and is hyping it as the latest and greatest. Supposed to run 1400fps+

Stingers still make ground squirrels pop better than velocitors.

Velocitors are good rounds! It's a heavier bullet that's a little better behaved. It should work nicely on something a little heavier bodied than a ground squirrel (Whistle pigs!). I've also found them to be more accurate than the stingers out of my guns.
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I typically use the federal bulk and like it ok, tried the Remington yesterday and had more ftf, fte, and stovepipes than I have ever had In a single day. I won't buy it again.

Federal bulk for cheap plinkin' and practice (2-3 duds per 550 brick)
CCI Mini Mag for my semi-autos (burns cleaner and cycles more reliably)
CCI Quik-Shok for varmint control.

I got a bad batch of Remington Thunderbolt in '95 - haven't used it since. The bullets lead-fouled so badly I had a solid lead tube inside my barrel after about 15-16 shots. I stopped midway though the 3rd cylinder to see what the was wrong when my normal accuracy degraded to where I couldn't even keep my shots on paper at 10 yards. The fouling was so thick I had to use a brass jag on an old cleaning rod and tap it out. Needless to say, I was/still am pissed off at Remington for nearly destroying the barrel on one of my favorite S&W's.

Apparently Remington has had problems with their bullet lubing equipment and it was supposed to have been recallled ammo. I no longer have faith in any of their manufacturing standards, so I'll never know if the problem was resolved. I will never buy Remington .22 ammo again for as long as I live. If anyone from Remington corporate ever reads this: It only takes one bad experience to permanently lose a customer. When that one bad experience almost costs a customer a revolver valued at $350 and risks their safety - They aren't going to come back. At least an apology would have been nice.

I've put well over 5,000 maybe even x2 that amount of rem .22 through my 10/22 and I've only had a handful ftf and stovepipes. It gunks up if I don't clean it every time (my bad) but it's great ammo for $ imho.

Accurate out to 100yds, <that I can take out 1/4" wide targets with it, etc.. it's great.

Federal I've had more problems with.

Use what works :)

bought about 2,000 rounds of CCI Blazers for oregon squirrels. ended up selling 1,850 rounds of CCI Blazers a few months later.

Personally I have fallen in love with American Eagle's w/ the 38 grain HP. I've never had a jam, they work great in buckmarks too. But out of the CCI, AE, Blazers, I found the remi yellow Jackets really out performed the others according to my personal carnage scale. :D


if I were shooting zombies at any range I would be using a .17 HMR over a .22, if price werent an object obviously.

I'm not the quiet type, but if I had too I'd probably just stab'em in the fo-noggin.

Personally I'm not a big fan of the .22LR though. I like larger bore rifles...

I've put well over 5,000 maybe even x2 that amount of rem .22 through my 10/22 and I've only had a handful ftf and stovepipes. It gunks up if I don't clean it every time (my bad) but it's great ammo for $ imho.

Accurate out to 100yds, <that I can take out 1/4" wide targets with it, etc.. it's great.

Federal I've had more problems with.

Use what works :)

Am I expecting too much from a 22lr??
All brands I have tried are "accurate" in the left to right sence but powder content, or velocity is all over the place. If I zero the scope on target, thru the next 18 rounds I'll be all over the place height wise, corresponding to extra loud down to very quiet reports when firing. Could this be a rifle problem or is it ammo? A couple months ago (with rem viper, ran out) I could center punch an .06 brass case at 100 yards almost at will, and to do it now takes a complete 18 round loading, and a fair amount of luck on how much bullet drop I'm going to get. If I had a 1/2" wide target 2 feet tall at 100 yards, I'd hit it every time.
I guess I'll take out another 22 next time to see if it's the rifle.

Similar deal with federal. Had quite a few out of the last couple value packs that didn't feel quite right, couple were light enough that I checked the bore before shooting any more in case the bullet didn't make it out of the barrel. Only had a couple that didn't go bang on the first try, so at least that part is ok. Too bad I still have another 4 of the value packs of this stuff in the safe. Hopefully now that I got the clip loader for the Ruger MK III we'll burn through it a bit faster.

Tried some of the Golden whatever and they were terrible for not firing, think out of one value pack there were 15-20 that didn't go bang.

Guess its nature of the beast when you are talking about ammo that costs less than $.03 a round.

Am I expecting too much from a 22lr??
All brands I have tried are "accurate" in the left to right sence but powder content, or velocity is all over the place. If I zero the scope on target, thru the next 18 rounds I'll be all over the place height wise, corresponding to extra loud down to very quiet reports when firing. Could this be a rifle problem or is it ammo? A couple months ago (with rem viper, ran out) I could center punch an .06 brass case at 100 yards almost at will, and to do it now takes a complete 18 round loading, and a fair amount of luck on how much bullet drop I'm going to get. If I had a 1/2" wide target 2 feet tall at 100 yards, I'd hit it every time.
I guess I'll take out another 22 next time to see if it's the rifle.

I know what you are talking about and have experienced it myself but not too often.

I'd say 95%+ of the time I hit what I want to, I use it for plinking and when I was younger bird shooting and field mice. Always on target... except those few that have the characteristics you mention.

If you are wanting to hit the same hole EVERY TIME, then ya, I wouldn't buy any "BULK" pack ammo :)

-Todd

Remington rimfire is bottom of the barrel shit.

I'll agree too. I made the mistake of shooting that crap when I first got my marlin model 60 and got tons of duds and some horrible buildup.

Federal from walmart. works well, copper plated so it fouls less and cheap

x2
550 Rounds for $13 and none of my guns have any problems with it.

This is what I ended up going with too and have had zero issues. Price must have gone up, I think it was $9 a box last time I bought a couple :D

what 1,000 rounds of Remington Thunderbolt in a GSG-5 barrel will do:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f165/GSG5Host1/ammo/thunderbolt_barrel.jpg

what 1,000 rounds of Remington Thunderbolt in a GSG-5 barrel will do:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f165/GSG5Host1/ammo/thunderbolt_barrel.jpg

wow :eek:

daym, is that saveable?

sure, it's just lead

daym, is that saveable?

At that point it is just a royal pain in the ass to the point you may just want to buy a new barrel :laughing:
But ya, its saveable

i imagine getting all that out of the rifiling would be a major PITA

daym, is that saveable?


new barrel and breach block is only 48.00 so it might not be worth your time

i imagine getting all that out of the rifiling would be a major PITA

SOAK it in a pan of lead remover or run it in an ultrasonic cleaner.
followed by a LOT of nylon brushing and then bronze.

Doesn't seem like anyone is a fan of the remington golden bullet value packs, but my ruger mkIII 22/45 does just fine with it. Couple of FTFs per brick, never had a stovepipe. I put 350 rounds of golden bullet through it yesterday and only had one FTF.

SOAK it in a pan of lead remover or run it in an ultrasonic cleaner.
followed by a LOT of nylon brushing and then bronze.
why nylon then bronze, i figured it would be the other way around?

why nylon then bronze, i figured it would be the other way around?

start with a LOT of least abrasive then with higher abrasive. no need for excessive wear if the nylon will remove it first.

Doesn't seem like anyone is a fan of the remington golden bullet value packs, but my ruger mkIII 22/45 does just fine with it. Couple of FTFs per brick, never had a stovepipe. I put 350 rounds of golden bullet through it yesterday and only had one FTF.



Every rifle is different, one rifle may do better on remington, while the same exact model of rifle might like cci's or federals better. Mine seems to like American Eagles and hates cci blazers.

my vote- federal 550 pack. I've shot rem, win, cci, and federal is the best bang for the buck imo.

no issues with Winchester rounds. 500 round bricks for pretty cheap (at least used to be, have not looked in a while). cycles through my semi auto just fine, but its a Browning Silhouette target pistol and the action is very light.

I checked when I went to walbogs the other day and the federal 550 pack had indeed gone up to over $13. Wish I'd bought a few more boxes when it was still under $9! Still a pretty good deal though.

I know a guy who said he has several cases of the federal he's looking to get rid of. If anybody around redding is interested I can get more info, but I'm pretty sure he said it was the federal stuff.

When operating my "clandestine neighborhood squirrel remover," I tend to use the Remington Sub Sonics. I have also used the CCI Sub Sonics. While shooting a comparison test (firing the CCI vs. the Remingtons) I noticed that the CCIs are quieter than the Remingtons, but really only enough that you had to listen intently to tell a difference.
- Lee

I knew somebody had started the sub sonic discussion somewhere here. I've never shot them before, but since people keep saying they're quiet I figured they'd be the round to deal with my coyote problems. Bought a box of the cci's tonight and test fired one... :eek: Just as loud as the cheap federals.

Do I need to bump down to shorts? Baby bottle nipple on the end of the barrel?