I have a 90 ford ranger and i'm having some gas tank problems. Every time i go to put gas into my truck i will pull the trigger and then it will pump about 1 dollar in and then click off. I contiune to pull the trigger and it will click off again and again. It takes me atleast 15 to 20 minutes to put like 10 bucks in my truck. WTF. I'm thinking that it is some sort of vent and is clogged but i'm not sure. Does anyone have any ideas? Anything will be much appreciated. -bigDREW :smokin:

I've got the same problem ever since I swapped to a different tank to make clearance for my doubler. as of right now I don't have a breather, I'm in the process of figuring out what to use. pull off your bed and your fuel filler neck to see what's going on.

haha mine just started doing the same thing. no clue why - havent had the time to look into it. it is annoying as fuck though i've only got the patience to put 5 gal at a time in

either your vent is plugged with mud/stuff

or

someone has probably put something down into the tank..theres a insert in some tanks to keep it from spilling (found it on my sploder this weekend) and the diameter is smaller than the hose..and a pingpong ball could close it off easily..

it is annoying as fuck. this is my daily too so I've gotta get it figured out pretty quick, before it gets too cold. I don't wanna stand outside for 15 minutes tryin to fill my tank

it is annoying as fuck. this is my daily too so I've gotta get it figured out pretty quick, before it gets too cold. I don't wanna stand outside for 15 minutes tryin to fill my tank

try putting a nylon hose or smaller garden hose down the fillspout (holding the little flaper check open with a small screwdriver...and see if you can get it to go all the way into the tank (about 4ft MAX should get you there..)..if you cant get it to finness its way in..something is lodged in there...

either your vent is plugged with mud/stuff

or

someone has probably put something down into the tank..theres a insert in some tanks to keep it from spilling (found it on my sploder this weekend) and the diameter is smaller than the hose..and a pingpong ball could close it off easily..

Ya last night i took the skid plate off and then started droping the gas tank...but there is a cross member that the gas tank in wedged under and it will hit the axle if i try to pull it out. So it looks like i might have to take the bed off. I also took the filler neck off thinking that there was something in there. It looked pretty clean but in the process i put a rip in the outside line so i think that i'm going to have to buy a new one. Still don't know what the problem is. I also took the breather thingy (don't know what its called) that only lets the air out, out. it seemed to be fine too but i will replace it while i'm under there.

Does anyone have an idea of where to change the gas tank gauge? Is it in the gas tank? My gauge hasen't worked for months and i figured i could fix that also while i'm in there. Thanks for the help everyone. -Drew:smokin:

either pull the bed or cut an access in the floor and re-plate it after yer done...faster than dropping the tank...

fuel gauge (sender) is in the tank...under the bed...

this thread is great, its all the shit I've had trouble with since relocating my tank. you can see where the tank is now located, behind my rear axle:

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s312/foxridersco05/Doubler%20Build/DSCN0772.jpg?t=1223492516

my filler neck comes over the frame, right above the rear driver side spring mount, then makes a 90 straight up into my bed:

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s312/foxridersco05/Doubler%20Build/DSCN0905.jpg?t=1223492604

I no longer have the inner hose of the filler neck, so I'm filling straight into the larger one. I think that's my problem, the fuel is hitting that 90* angle and not allowing the air to pass by. I'm goin to the local speed shop today to see if I can find a large enough diameter hose that is fuel compatible to use as my inner hose.

I never got my sending unit to work either, when I first hooked it up it read full all the time. I'm pretty sure I wired it up correctly, its only 2 wires. I pulled my bed and switched the wires just for good measure and now my guage reads empty all the time. I just fill up everytime and reset my trip odometer so I know when I need to fill up again.

the 90 is probably the problem..your not letting the air vent from the tank while filling..(think the crappy new gascans they have)...

the 90 is probably the problem..your not letting the air vent from the tank while filling..(think the crappy new gascans they have)...

Yeah its like a hose inside of a hose right? The inside hose lets gas down and the outside one vents? I think the problem with mine is that the inside hose came undone so gas is going down both hoses. When i built my bedcage i disconnected it and didnt reattatch it very well.

Yeah its like a hose inside of a hose right? The inside hose lets gas down and the outside one vents? I think the problem with mine is that the inside hose came undone so gas is going down both hoses. When i built my bedcage i disconnected it and didnt reattatch it very well.

yeah I don't have that inside hose. I'm hoping that after I get an inner hose, my problem will be solved. Hell I'd be happy if I could just get the pump lever to the first click, I have to hold it the whole time while its barely pumping now. if it still won't pump well after adding the inner hose I dunno what I'm going to do. I guess relocate my fuel door back to the outside of my bed.

the inside hose came undone so gas is going down both hoses.

That's what does it.

I guess relocate my fuel door back to the outside of my bed.


Thats what I did when I did my BII tank. I went to the jeep dealer and got the plastic trim piece for a TJ filler neck. cut a hole in the side of the bed and used some self taper screws to hold it all in place.

Both mine have been doing this for maybe a couple years now...
I think it's the stupid pump nozzle design (it gradually started happening at more & more stations (I guess) as they changed nozzle types or something).

If I stand there and hold the nozzle up a bit while it's filling, it'll work fine, but if I let it rest down, it invariably clicks off (like it's not forcing the vapor recovery boot back far enough to keep it triggered).

Dunno if that might be your issue, but thought I'd mention it anyway.

BTW, the sending unit for the gauge is on the fuel pump assembly. Not sure if it can be bought seperate.

i had many of people complain about this problem, but when i pull the filler neck out i notice the "vent" tube inside the filler is missing. you really need this vent tube in order for the fuel to flow freely into the tank


http://thumbs300.1aauto.com/FMX/1AFMX00011.jpg

see that extra tube hanging out, that goes all the way up to the other end and works as a vent.

i had many of people complain about this problem, but when i pull the filler neck out i notice the "vent" tube inside the filler is missing. you really need this vent tube in order for the fuel to flow freely into the tank


http://thumbs300.1aauto.com/FMX/1AFMX00011.jpg

see that extra tube hanging out, that goes all the way up to the other end and works as a vent.

No. The inside tube is what the gas goes though, the OUTSIDE tube is the vent.

Both mine have been doing this for maybe a couple years now...
I think it's the stupid pump nozzle design (it gradually started happening at more & more stations (I guess) as they changed nozzle types or something).

If I stand there and hold the nozzle up a bit while it's filling, it'll work fine, but if I let it rest down, it invariably clicks off (like it's not forcing the vapor recovery boot back far enough to keep it triggered).

thats what happens with mine.didn't start doing it until a redwood tree reshaped the bedside though.

I would just rig up a seperate vent like on the 98+ rangers.

I'm not sure exactly how the 98+ is setup but I've thought about having a separate vent. I don't like the thought of having to pull and drain the tank, drill, clean out the inside, etc.

Using the TJ trim piece isn't too bad an idea. were you able to use the stock ranger filler hose, like the one in Net's pic?

thats what happens with mine.didn't start doing it until a redwood tree reshaped the bedside though.

Ha ha thats funny because now that i think about it i had a nice pine reshape the side of the bed where the gas is fulled thru. My dent is probally about 2- 3 inches in from where it used to be. But my problem started atleast 6 months after i got the dent. like i said before tho...i took the filler neck with vent tube off and could see nothing blocking it.

Has anyone ever heard of the charcol canister causing this problem? I've heard that if you top of your truck too many times then the charcol canister will get full or gas and not just fumes, allowing the vent to not vent thru the canister. I think that where i'm headed next...because i still haven't located the problem. Any other ideas?

Dude, have you tried pulling out the nozzle of the gas pump hose just a little bit. I have saddle bag tanks on my tow rig and the angle is such that if you put the nozzle all the way in the filler hose it won't vent right and it shuts off. Retracting the nozzle by 2-3 inchs leaves plenty of nozzle in the filler hose and eliminates the shut off problem.

Dude, have you tried pulling out the nozzle of the gas pump hose just a little bit. I have saddle bag tanks on my tow rig and the angle is such that if you put the nozzle all the way in the filler hose it won't vent right and it shuts off. Retracting the nozzle by 2-3 inchs leaves plenty of nozzle in the filler hose and eliminates the shut off problem.

I have tried putting the nozzle in 5 million different ways...any it still starts pouring out. I think that i'm going to try getting a bigger hose to let the gas flow better. maybe just get rid of the inner hose and use the outter on. I'll let you guys know whats gog on.

Using the TJ trim piece isn't too bad an idea. were you able to use the stock ranger filler hose, like the one in Net's pic?

Yes. I also got some universal filler hose the same size as the outer hose at napa as well. To make it fit without a body lift and not cutting the inside of the bed was a challange. The body and frame ended up rubbing a hole through the filler neck. I have sence re positioned the guard so hopefully that problem is solved. I have only driven it a few hundred miles sense I re did it so we will see how it holds up.


http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125858&highlight=rockranger

Starts about post 400 till about 475. Lots of BS mixed with a bit of tech on how I did the tank.

Damnit you guys are long winded over there haha. Looks good though. I'm really considering going that route now.