: Sweet competition pistol video of the day


TNToy
10-08-2008, 07:58 PM
Since competition footage has been requested by the masses in the 'what music do you listen to' thread, I had an idea.

Posting everything you guys would like to see would be a huge time suck. So, you're getting 1 video a day, until I get bored or sick of posting them. :D

(And yes, exactly 2 people asking for videos damn well means 'the masses' are ear for them) :flipoff2:



First video. Ever seen a reload where the shooter catches the empty?

VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVD7Luck954&NR=1


It doesn't look hard. I'm damn sure I reload faster than most of you guys. I'm not even close.

misterfubar
10-08-2008, 08:03 PM
Thanks, I just dropped a full mag on my little toe trying to do that. :flipoff2:

Tim84K10
10-08-2008, 08:14 PM
Speed holsters are gay.

BigGreenMonster
10-08-2008, 08:15 PM
thats pretty good i guess... :flipoff2:

665.0coupe
10-09-2008, 05:27 PM
Cool, I might actually have to subscribe to a thread!!

Pretty cool video, I'm not even going to try it. I have way to much other stuff to practice and learn to devote time to that.

On a side note: What kind of ammo do you shoot in IDPA? I don't reload but I am have been saving my brass so I can start eventually. How close are your loads to the 125,000 limit. I don't regret getting the G22, just thinking about getting a 34.

Luke

TNToy
10-09-2008, 05:52 PM
So far, my custom super-light loads have consisted of... WWB and Remington UMC.

Kickin' ass with factory ammo, and a $600 gun is fun - when your competitiors are running light loads in Wilsons and $2,500 Dawson- or Brazos-tuned STIs. :D

I'll be loading a Precision Delta 147FMJ over 3.0-3.2gr of Titegroup at about 1.130-1.140" OAL. You want your load to make about 130 PF, just in case it's cold and humid when they're chrono'ing you.

Comes out to a minimum of 884fps for a 147gr bullet. 130 is about 885fps.
http://www.ccidpa.org/idpa-pf.html

TNToy
10-09-2008, 06:08 PM
Day two.

Eric Grauffel. Freakishly fast kid who's won IPSC titles in the Open division. Which ones? Pretty much all of them:
http://www.ericgrauffel.net/eric_info/results.htm

Open division means speed holsters, compensated space guns, optics. Go do it better, then come back and bitch about his gear.

Try not to let your head explode in awe. Yes, he's hitting the targets. He shot 146 out of the total 160 points available on the stage, coming in third behind Max Michel. (Whose name is also definitely worth you-tubing).

VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhWNAURfVGU

Tim84K10
10-09-2008, 06:49 PM
Good lord.

I've shot with grand masters and he makes them look like toddlers.

CP8071
10-09-2008, 07:19 PM
I'd give him a procedural +5 seconds for the uncontrolled step out of bounds at the end.

TNToy
10-09-2008, 08:50 PM
Here's the winning run from that stage. Max beat him by shooting it in almost exactly the same time, with a PERFECT 160.00 points for the stage...

VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KQagQb18Jw

TNToy
10-12-2008, 12:48 PM
Saturday:

Forget shooting on-the-move. This is flat out bookin' while hosing targets...

VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNJ3v0ClJf8

TNToy
10-12-2008, 12:53 PM
Enough space guns for a while. Here's a video of Dave Sevigny. He could be accurately described as the best Glock shooter in the world.

VIDEO
http://www.sevignyperformance.com/gallery/SP_Videos/SP_Lim_v2.wmv

kwrangln
10-12-2008, 01:46 PM
Damn, just Damn.:eek:

TNToy
10-14-2008, 01:49 PM
Another of Dave...

VIDEO
http://www.sevignyperformance.com/gallery/SP_Videos/Sevigny_Area8_0001.wmv

TNToy
10-16-2008, 08:28 PM
VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StXMHw32kjA

Travis Tomasie on the speed reload. Obviously, everything else stays the same for a slide-lock reload. You just drop the slide with the technique you prefer.

I complete every step in a very similar way to him. Holding the magazine in the manner he shows, and looking the magazine into the gun are the two most important things you can practice.

He's worth listening to. He can do this... (You've probably seen this a million times)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgdq1FBYTUE&feature=related

TNToy
10-21-2008, 01:46 PM
Been a couple of days.

There are 300-and-something USPSA GrandMaster classifications in the USA, out of 17,000+ members.
Since most of them hold a GM card in more than one division, there are probably somewhere around 100-150 shooters in the country who're GrandMasters.

Kyle made GM in Production with a stock Glock 17. Only modifications are a set of sights, and a 13-pound recoil spring.

Dude can shoot.

VIDEO(s)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDF2S4BES-M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBwPYIlwCdA

TNToy
11-01-2008, 09:51 PM
VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNAfn_pcHHU

Ben Stoeger. USPSA GM in Production. Finished a bit behind Dave Sevigny at the Nationals, and was upset about it. That's about all that needs to be said about his skill level. ;)

He and I talk a fair bit on a couple of forums. He's in his low 20s, and currently going through the police academy near his hometown. The 'instructors' he's working under don't really attempt to teach him very much. Since, you know, cops generally can't shoot fast worth a damn. But it's fun to read his posts about it. :D

Tim84K10
11-01-2008, 10:24 PM
After having a few more matches under my belt, I can honestly say that if you can shoot B class in USPSA, the overwhelming majority of police officers wouldn't have much to say about your shooting skill.

It was pretty cool to watch that guy and imagine shooting that fast in production.

TNToy
11-08-2008, 07:27 PM
VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzS4SO9MIHY&feature=PlayList&p=476034BEA7EA8CFD&index=3

Tim84K10
11-08-2008, 11:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-XEz3JPld8&feature=related

Clearly breaks the 180 between 2:58 and 2:59. I guess if you're a record-holding Grand Master, nobody yells "muzzle" or even expects you to respect the rules of the game.

This is precisely why the 180 rule MUST go away in USPSA. This guy's rule violation put nobody in danger, but if you watch closely, he commits an infraction that has ONE possible consequence--match disqualification.

The 180 rule sucks. In stages like this, where you are required to move backwards, you have three basic options:

1. hold the gun downrange, face the direction that you have to run, and run, not looking at your gun or where it's pointed. You will never violate the 180 this way, but this represents turning your back on a threat and running away from it, with your gun still pointed at it (and whatever else you sweep along the way).

2. Walk backwards, which is unsafe for a number of reasons, the worst of which is that the shooting box is typically a 2" tall piece of wood that is easy to trip over. It's also slow as fuck--but it's 180 proof as well.

3. Do what I do. Keep your gun in front of you as much as you can, and watch the 180 closely, walking backwards when necessary to avoid it. In real life, this is what I'd do. This keeps your gun's sight picture as close to your eye as possible, keeps your gun in front of you where you can watch where it is pointed, and while not 180 proof, I'd sure as fuck rather use my finger as a safety device and keep an eye on my gun than anything else. This did get me DQed once, but in hindsight, I really don't give a fuck. USPSA should have instituted the IDPA-type muzzle safe points years ago, and safety infractions that do not endanger anyone should have discretionary penalties.

TNToy
11-10-2008, 05:26 AM
IPSC is a sport. Unlike IDPA, they make no claim to teach you anything about defensive shooting. I particularly like this part. It keeps people from bitching when you get... er... creative in your stage strategy.

I see a big (okay, massive) disconnect between shooting competitions, and a real-life scenario. I don't care what rules they use: If you're clearing you're house in less than 15 seconds because you move like a stopwatch is running, you're gonna get shot. I just don't think it's practical to attempt defensive shooting on the clock. So I appreciate USPSA for not bothering to try. :D

And guess what? In IDPA matches, you'll see me turn completely around with the gun aimed behind me all the time. It's the fastest way to finish the stage.

TNToy
11-12-2008, 03:17 PM
VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6UtpCX82Pc

Todd Jarrett. Don't blink, or you'll miss the reloads.

kwrangln
12-02-2008, 07:56 PM
This one hasn't been posted yet.

http://www.gadpa.com/idpa/Sevigny_G21_SF_HeadCam.wmv


:smokin:

Ranger_SXT
12-03-2008, 09:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-XEz3JPld8&feature=related

Clearly breaks the 180 between 2:58 and 2:59. I guess if you're a record-holding Grand Master, nobody yells "muzzle" or even expects you to respect the rules of the game.

No he doesn't. He comes close, but he doesn't break it.

Tim84K10
12-03-2008, 10:21 AM
No he doesn't. He comes close, but he doesn't break it.

He breaks it for sure. Watch it slowly.

Ranger_SXT
12-03-2008, 11:05 AM
He breaks it for sure. Watch it slowly.
Still not seeing him break it.

TNToy
01-05-2009, 07:56 PM
So much for "of the day"...

VIDEO
Travis Tomasie: El Prez at 15 yds with no-shoots in front of the targets:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS14CdHyJiY

Eric Garuffel at the just-finished wold championships in Bali
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du3-SmwyC_Y

Don't miss the stage at 0:43
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWEhiqDNZjY

Adam Tyc. This is about as fast as a CZ SP-01 can possibly go...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6178WHWi1hs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=levnQ8PUzwk

Tiro from Brazil. Glock 17.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bAyORe-eE8

kwrangln
01-05-2009, 08:14 PM
Travis Tomasie is a badass, damn if he can't reload quick. Damn guy was taking a shot before the first mag had stopped bouncing.

Adam Tyc has an interesting grip, loops his weak hand index finger under the trigger guard, easier to see in his reload practice vid which comes up as related to the one you posted. I've caught myself using a similar grip at the range and am working on getting the weak hand index finger back under the trigger guard so my grip is closer together. I was really camming my weak hand forward, weak hand thumb was ending up about an inch in front of the trigger finger if I held it straight. Didn't seem to be too detrimental, just don't want it to become too much of a habit that will hurt me later.

Good vids.

TNToy
04-12-2009, 07:57 PM
UPDATE

Ran across more video goodness, thought I'd update this thread...

YouTube - YONG LEE 2008 CRAZY CROC MATCH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgtQq8UaWuI&NR=1)

YouTube - Yong Lee Texas State Limited Champ '08 (Production) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZUehkLohWM&feature=channel)

YouTube - Blake Miguez 2007 LA State Championship Stage 9 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHIBGHMekPI&feature=related)

YouTube - Blake Miguez shooting without looking at target (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkf5zeBQhB8&feature=related)


Yong Lee is an SP-01 in the first videos.

TNToy
06-17-2009, 08:44 PM
*zombie rawr* Back from the dead... again...

Cool AR-15 video. (Watch their other videos if you like this one)...

I'm going to work on this with a pistol. Trigger freeze on blazing-fast runs has been a bit of an issue lately on REALLY close targets. Trying to work on staying relaxed while really muscling the gun and ripping on the trigger.

YouTube - VTAC 1-5 Rifle Drill (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaCpOt9xVy4)

Ben Segrest
06-17-2009, 08:53 PM
Got DAMN!

^That's what I said, out loud, at about 0:08

TNToy
06-17-2009, 09:23 PM
I *LOVE* exposing your average 'gun guy' to footage of a really good competitive shooter, for that very reason.

If you've never pushed yourself, your splits and transitions will be easy to discern. bangbang... bangbang... bangbang...

split = time between shots on one target
transition = time used in moving from one target to the next

However, a couple thousand rounds of practice makes that into bangbangbangbangbangbang pretty quickly.

Nearly everyone burns a lot of time swinging the gun to the next target when they start IDPA/USPSA/3-gun matches - with both rifles and pistols. Doing a simple cadence drill (fire 4 rounds on 2 targets really quickly, and drive the gun to the second target KNOWING the shot's getting triggered whether you get there or not) will speed your ass up pretty quickly.

mtnkid85
10-15-2009, 01:51 PM
So how about some more goodness for this thread eh? Im shooting my first match this weekend and have spent the entire week searching your name are reading your posts/watching your videos.

stRanger
10-15-2009, 03:45 PM
I *LOVE* exposing your average 'gun guy' to footage of a really good competitive shooter, for that very reason.

If you've never pushed yourself, your splits and transitions will be easy to discern. bangbang... bangbang... bangbang...

split = time between shots on one target
transition = time used in moving from one target to the next

However, a couple thousand rounds of practice makes that into bangbangbangbangbangbang pretty quickly.

Nearly everyone burns a lot of time swinging the gun to the next target when they start IDPA/USPSA/3-gun matches - with both rifles and pistols. Doing a simple cadence drill (fire 4 rounds on 2 targets really quickly, and drive the gun to the second target KNOWING the shot's getting triggered whether you get there or not) will speed your ass up pretty quickly.

I'd love to not so much get into competitive shooting, but def. pick up my times and be quick on the shot. Only problem is most gun ranges around me have been closed, are want like 15 bucks per time you go. The gun clubs around here are OUTRAGEOUS! Think the one closest to me is something like 800+ a year.... Thats a buncha ammo!!! Just wishes there were more places to shoot freely etc!!

kwrangln
10-15-2009, 05:43 PM
I'd love to not so much get into competitive shooting, but def. pick up my times and be quick on the shot. Only problem is most gun ranges around me have been closed, are want like 15 bucks per time you go. The gun clubs around here are OUTRAGEOUS! Think the one closest to me is something like 800+ a year.... Thats a buncha ammo!!! Just wishes there were more places to shoot freely etc!!

Dryfire is FREE. Do it, do it a lot, take it seriously and the next time you livefire, you'll be suprised how much better you do. Most of the guys in the vids who are fast as hell got that way be dryfiring 10x as much as live fire, and they live fire A LOT (think 10-50 THOUSAND rounds per year).

stRanger
10-15-2009, 06:05 PM
rack.... click....rack....click....rack...click.... I'm not too worried about speed as i am accuracy and being proficient at it!

kwrangln
10-15-2009, 07:50 PM
rack.... click....rack....click....rack...click.... I'm not too worried about speed as i am accuracy and being proficient at it!

You're doing it wrong.:flipoff2:

It should be draw, click, click, click, click, click, click as you are driving the gun at multiple targets. If it doesn't click, no big deal, learn to push to the next target and get proper sight alignment as you are squeezing the trigger. Check out TnToy's vids, he has a couple dryfire vids on youtube showing the transitions between targets, reloads, etc. Practice is what you make of it.

You want to dryfire for accuracy, start out by racking the slide to cock it, then put a fired shell casing on top of the slide, learn to pull the trigger without dropping the shell casing. Need a challenge, balance a quarter on the front sight and dryfire. Learning how to not move the gun between the time you pull the trigger and the bullet leaving the barrel is key to accuracy.

TNToy
10-15-2009, 08:44 PM
More goodness:

The three members of team Glock. Randi (the young girl) and I are about evenly matched - although she's probably a bit better in reality. I've shot against her twice in the past.

Watching the two of them followed by Dave highlights just how ludicrously fast he really is. And his accuracy is phenomenal. At that speed, he's shooting a snake-bite in the center of the targets. Makes you want to sell all your gear and take up fishing...

YouTube - TEAM GLOCK Sevigny, Abbate and Rogers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKDvov35s3w)


More of Dave S:
YouTube - Sevigny 08 DTC 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skqjxHUm9LU)

YouTube - Sevigny 08 DTC 8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6VEDF6Fz1A)



Ben Stoeger. Fastest Beretta in... er... pretty much anywhere.
YouTube - Ohio Section 2009 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnthXTtzJcs)

YouTube - Ben Area 5 09 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoMdt9EDonM)

Mo
10-15-2009, 09:58 PM
those are nice and all, but do you have any youtube vids that can help us noobs learn good technique?

I've easily cut my reload time down just by clicky-clickying for 5 minutes a day.

click click click click - reload - click click click click - reload - rinse and repeat



I try to maintain a good sight picture as I'm aiming at various points around teh room, but I would rather not practice than practice poorly.

stRanger
10-16-2009, 02:58 AM
You're doing it wrong.:flipoff2:

It should be draw, click, click, click, click, click, click as you are driving the gun at multiple targets. If it doesn't click, no big deal, learn to push to the next target and get proper sight alignment as you are squeezing the trigger. Check out TnToy's vids, he has a couple dryfire vids on youtube showing the transitions between targets, reloads, etc. Practice is what you make of it.

You want to dryfire for accuracy, start out by racking the slide to cock it, then put a fired shell casing on top of the slide, learn to pull the trigger without dropping the shell casing. Need a challenge, balance a quarter on the front sight and dryfire. Learning how to not move the gun between the time you pull the trigger and the bullet leaving the barrel is key to accuracy.


ahh now I see grand masta! Gonna have to start doing this soon! Wonder if I can get the neighbor to flip the fawk out with me doing this in the backyard :evil: Only reason I was saying having to cock it each time was so you actually had the trigger pull pressure to get used to firing it that way without moving off the target

Gonna have to get the girl to do this too!

TNToy
10-22-2010, 02:36 PM
Been a while... Shot a match with Antoine a bit back, he is poetry in motion at times.

YouTube - USPSA Limited GM Antoine Lane (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugDP1Pv76Xw)

kwrangln
10-22-2010, 04:38 PM
DAYUM!

24 rounds
12 targets
with reload
8.04 seconds

That's fawkin smokin.:smokin:

TNToy
10-22-2010, 05:01 PM
Yeaaaaaahhhh... One of those vids that makes me want to give up the sport. :D



BTW Ken, tuesday's last stage was:

Step out from behind a wall... Draw... Fire one headshot at 7 yards

My run was 0.94, and yes, I hit the head. :smokin:

rocket flier
10-22-2010, 08:43 PM
rule cliffnotes?

I gather there are pistol rules/classes, but how does the range work?

kwrangln
10-22-2010, 09:07 PM
Yeaaaaaahhhh... One of those vids that makes me want to give up the sport. :D



BTW Ken, tuesday's last stage was:

Step out from behind a wall... Draw... Fire one headshot at 7 yards

My run was 0.94, and yes, I hit the head. :smokin:


Sweet! Wish I had some place close for a weekly match, hell I'd settle for monthly. Lately my travel schedule has me away more than home though.

rule cliffnotes?

I gather there are pistol rules/classes, but how does the range work?

Here's the complete rule book.

http://www.uspsa.org/rules/2010HandgunRulesProof3web.pdf

Short version, draw at the beep, shoot each target twice, and do it real fawkin fast like.:laughing:

Ben Segrest
10-24-2010, 08:16 AM
That sumbitch can shoot! What kind of pistol is he shooting there?

TNToy
10-24-2010, 04:59 PM
Some form of double-stack 1911 (aka 2011) chambered in .40 S&W shooting full-power loads... virtually everyone in Limited shoots an STI or SVI. Despite what all the casual "Kimber! Springfield!" type of shooters like to believe about the awesomness of their pistol, there are about the only thing that will take a 25,000-rounds-per-year with boring reliability. (And yes, I mean in single-stack too)

SVI Infinity, one of the go-to guns in .40:
http://www.jimsykes.com/images/infinity.jpg

BigGreenMonster
10-24-2010, 08:11 PM
that looks ridiculously expensive

rocket flier
10-24-2010, 08:27 PM
Here's the complete rule book.

http://www.uspsa.org/rules/2010HandgunRulesProof3web.pdf

Short version, draw at the beep, shoot each target twice, and do it real fawkin fast like.:laughing:Thanks, yeah.. that's a read. So you do inspect the course prior to your run but basically the club can lay it out any which way.

kwrangln
10-24-2010, 08:38 PM
that looks ridiculously expensive

It is, but when you figure out what it would take to make a regular 1911 that reliable and rebuilding it several times to handle the volume of fire that a comp pistol puts up with, the cost would average out.

Thanks, yeah.. that's a read. So you do inspect the course prior to your run but basically the club can lay it out any which way.

Each course of fire is different, but you do get to see it before hand and then you can run it through in your mind before you step up to the line.

TNToy
04-27-2011, 10:23 AM
Taran Butler... doing his wickedfasttriggerfinger thing...

YouTube - Taran Butler ISI 1-15-11 part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPJLqPM7v5A)

MT4Runner
04-27-2011, 11:05 AM
Awesome! :smokin:


Annoying guy with camera phone is...annoying!

TNToy
04-27-2011, 06:00 PM
No kidding. Good shooter. Bad narrator.

rockmup
04-27-2011, 06:24 PM
You shooting the Mississippi Classic this year ?