So i noticed next year's schedule was posted and two venues have races back to back on sat and sun. What are you others racers thoughts on this? It seems like it took most of the 6 week intermission to get my junk back together enough to race the next race. I'm sure a lot of racers don't have major repairs to make between races, but if you brake hard on sat, you might be completely out on sun. That would put a major hurt on your division standings to miss a complete race. So what do you do, take it easy on sat, and go for it on sun? Also, i haven't heard anything about classes yet, any info out?

You can drop one race next season. That was a question I had as well.
No classes either.

I dont like the two day events. For a couple reasons: we have a hard enough time getting a crowd to stay all of one day, let alone two. And also it will be more expensive. One more night in a Motel. One more missed work day. Have to take Monday off of work now to drive home, instead of driving home on sunday.

But I like to race so I will still race. Mike and Jodi have done really well so far as promoters, so Im sure they have good reasoning for this.
You cant make every one happy, but I still look forward to racing next year.

For me, I like the idea and want to try it out.

My closest race is an 11 hour drive. So two less trips this year, means HUGE DIESEL savings. Also the Monday off is just an offset of not driving on Friday another race. The hotels, you are talking one more night per event. So you are actually saving on hotels for the season, thats two less nights than this year.

As for crowds. As teams, racers, etc. WE NEED TO SPREAD THE WORD! We are talking huge. Tell everybody you know, and even tell people you dont know.

This year, I plan to print the .PDF event flier and hand them to everyone I see.

If you can keep your stuff together, it seems to me it'd be a huge help to the OVERALL travel expense. I know most of the mud racing guys seek out 2-race weekends when they're deciding where to travel - 1 trip, 2 prize purses.

TEX

Yeah I would think the savings in fuel alone would be HUGE. Instead of 4 trips you make 2. When you are talkin about 10-11 hours drives, that means time and money savings.

Gonna suck to pay double entry fees those weekends.

For me, I like the idea and want to try it out.

My closest race is an 11 hour drive. So two less trips this year, means HUGE DIESEL savings.

There is 5 events...you can drop one. There is 3 places to drive opposed to 4 places to drive this past year unless you feel your placement is good enough at the first 4 to miss the last one. Then it is 2 places to drive...not 3. But, how many people will feel comfortable with not driving to that third final place of the season. So...you are saving diesel on one place not two.

For the west...the single day event is the first one. So...they have to drive to 3 places no matter what unless they roll the dice and miss the first one. How many will do that?

So, you save fuel on one event place...but you pay an extra entry fee during the year and 2 more nights in a hotel room if you choose to stay.

So...an extra $250 plus an extra $200 ($100 average night in a hotel) during the year equals $450. Sounds like we'll be spending more. :laughing: Wyatt may spend less. It don't matter to us really. We'll be there. Would like to see if anyone is going to miss the final east event if they are comfortable with their first 4 events though. Hmmm.

I like it. Seperates the men from the boys when you are up all nite fixing your rig.

what originally attracted me to the series was the one day a weekend events. with a small family now I think I'll rethink what we are going to do for next year. I understand the idea of racing two days....more winners....more racing....less traveling. Very simliar to CORR if I catch what they are going for. But....who in the sport has a pit crew like CORR to fix two days worth of beating hard, the money of CORR and resources like CORR?

Just thinking out loud here. I hope it works. I really do. I'd like nothing better than to be famous from racing.

One side of me knows the Weavers have our best interest at heart. The other side of me knows what its like to be used as the gueinea pig to figure out what works or doesnt work in the sport. (ieuroc)

All I know is I'm gonna buy stock in true hi 9 or whatever other third member companies I find. I bet some guys will go through at least 4 during two day events!!

I am in, with no reservations. The weavers have taken care of the racers in the XRRA, when other promoters continue to cancell, slow pay, and give disinformation. I hope this format works and helps keep our sport alive. And as for the Co springs race, my shop will be open for use to all competitors on Sat night for repairs, even if I dont like you....JP Guy:flipoff2: So lets get behind this and get some racing done!!!
JT

I'm not sure saving money is of my biggest concern. I by no means have too much(who does?), but saving 4-$500 per season in traveling expenses is nothing. I spent $1500 going to Jellico, counting some food and hotels. And i split hotels with family members, so at most is spent 35 per night on room. Also, i prepay for the entire season, so if i tear my junk up too much to compete sunday, then i've lost that entry fee (or would i be able to get that back?) along with potential division points. I no doubt am willing and able to fix almost anything in one night, but it usually takes me the 6 week gap to raise the money for repairs, then do them. Now i'll have to have all parts in hand or bring a lot of extra $ and hope i can buy them wherever we are. Not complaining, i'll def be there next year. Just not sure i like the changes yet, you never know though. I second the motion on getting the word out about our races. That is a sure way to keep spectators and potential sponsors interested!

We are just like Wyatt and J.T. ALL IN with no issues or concerns.

This format will actually save us money in the long run as well- fewer miles to drive and far less gas and motel expenses.

As far as keeping spectators- we all need to sell ourselves, the series and the sport as a whole to get more people to attend our events. If we can't get or keep people for two days, maybe we can get some on Saturday and others on Sunday.

Mike and Jodi have developed this series in a very short time frame and definately know what they are doing. They will undoubtedly do what is right for our sport and the series.

I want to say again that i am in no way complaining. I was just curious what others thought. I am proud to be a part of the Xrra and throw that fact in whenever possible in any conversation. I believe that the Weavers are doing what they feel best for our series. They have nothing to gain or lose that we don't also gain or lose. I'm def looking forward to next year. On the other note, why aren't there going to be classes this year? Did everyone feel it wasn't for us? Are there other circumstances that i would be unaware of? Seems like that would be the natural progression for our series.

As always Jt, your enthusiasm, help, and confidence are much appreciated!

...who in the sport has a pit crew like CORR to fix two days worth of beating hard...

C'mon Doug, say our name! Say it! :flipoff2:

The new format definitely brings new strategy to those competing for a series championship. However, it will surely save us money in travel costs.

cm "I guess the parties are now officially moved to Sunday nights" k

This format is interesting but you gotta figure you've basically shut the door on new teams or "the little guy" getting into the sport, its hard enough for average joe to throw entry out there for the chance to race, now you double that just for a shot at racing. And force them into a two day "trial" if you will. I can see frustrations running real high for alot of racers. Whats the strategy, go slow Saturday drive conservative and save the car ? I think that will play into it alot and there goes a big seller for tickets.... no one enjoys reserved driving, the action is the full on getting it!!!

I guess it will be like we-roc and youll see the same names and same teams year after year with no or limited fresh influence. I do hope it works out, I think from a spectator and a racer's stand point XRRA is much more exciting then cones. I was planning to run the Grayrock race ( minimum ) but it'll be a last minute financially based decision now and I live right by the park. 600 for the weekend to possibly kill my riding for the rest of the year is something I will struggle with. If I have the entry Ill do it though, I enjoy the challenge enough to put it on the line. XRRA Racing is the biggest rush !!!

I just watch the events, but I can see both aspects to this idea, one is cut down on the driving an fuel usage , but as one said above wil possibly cut out the all out factor that is what draws an lot to watch XRRA. I have to say I will watch the whole weekend in Jellico. Hope it will work out for the Weavers in the end an the sport will continue to grow. Right with the way the money issue every one might have to re think by first of the year. Hope all the racers an crews have an good off season an good holiday season.

This format is interesting but you gotta figure you've basically shut the door on new teams or "the little guy" getting into the sport, its hard enough for average joe to throw entry out there for the chance to race, now you double that just for a shot at racing. And force them into a two day "trial" if you will. I can see frustrations running real high for alot of racers. Whats the strategy, go slow Saturday drive conservative and save the car ? I think that will play into it alot and there goes a big seller for tickets.... no one enjoys reserved driving, the action is the full on getting it!!!

I guess it will be like we-roc and youll see the same names and same teams year after year with no or limited fresh influence. I do hope it works out, I think from a spectator and a racer's stand point XRRA is much more exciting then cones. I was planning to run the Grayrock race ( minimum ) but it'll be a last minute financially based decision now and I live right by the park. 600 for the weekend to possibly kill my riding for the rest of the year is something I will struggle with. If I have the entry Ill do it though, I enjoy the challenge enough to put it on the line. XRRA Racing is the biggest rush !!!

a sport with this much mainstream potential most likely isn't going to be the place for the average joe weekend warrior to fit in.
As for rec wheeling the rest of the year, I don't know how the other race teams are, but its a struggle to keep the buggy good enough for an event an month and work enought for time off and money to travel to make the whole series, so rec wheeling is a moot point. Racing is HARD FAWKING work, but worth every second. 2 day events, my boss will just have to do without me friday and monday I guess:p

I consider myself the average joe weekend warrior. It just so happened i built a rig with the series in mind, along with rec wheeling. No, my rig isn't competitive, but it races decent, and is very reliable as far as rec wheeling goes. When it came time to apply and send in entry fees, i just so happened to have the cash to cover the whole season, so i ran with it. I prob wouldn't have went to all the races (or any) otherwise, but i'm glad i did. you're right, racing is a lot of work, requires a lot of time and patience, but it is well worth it. And i would recommend it to anyone, even if you don't have the baddest rig. I've found that just finishing all 4 courses will get you in the middle of the pack most races. Problem is, most of us are too competitive to be happy with this. But if you can live without having the super bling rig and high hp, then it doesn't cost all that much when you look at the big picture.

In the end, i've come to the conclusion that i have to work on my rig either way. I'm just happy to be one of the people to get out and do what i enjoy. If i have to pull an all nighter on saturdays to be able to race sunday, so be it! I also know that there are good people in the series that are more than willing to lend you a hand, and parts if needed.

All you have have to do is hold down on the skinny pedal when the light turns green. if not great more fun and money for us.if you cant have fun with out bitching stay home.:flipoff2:

I'm wondering if next years Greyrock will be as brutal as it was this year. There won't be anyone left to race on Sunday if it is.

Ralph- I did the same thing. Paid to run the series, having never been to an XRRA event ever. Basically threw my hat over the fence, and spent all season getting over the fence to pick it up. Best thing I could have ever done. The Weavers, and the competitors are awesome.

I'm wondering if next years Greyrock will be as brutal as it was this year. There won't be anyone left to race on Sunday if it is.

Yeah, we missed Jellico because of the damage. Had to rewire, replumb, OMG that day was hard. You'd think 4 weeks would have been enough time, and it wasn't. But damn I loved that course.

We're really excited about it - great response to the economic conditions plus more racing. Way to go Mike!

Well Grayrock being 45 min and Jellico 4 hrs,maybe I can talk Adam into pointing that new Dodge West for a couple of events.One long drive and two events,sounds good to me.Pops:D:D:D:D:D

Be interesting to see if we'll just race the same course both days or if they have something up their sleeves.

I am excited about being a rookie next season and I will have to say I like the two day event. I think it will really make things interesting. The one comment I kept hearing this year was "I want to race more for my time spent traveling". So here you have it....

HHMMMMMM Joel,you sure have been quiet.Got anything you'd like to talk about?

HHMMMMMM Joel,you sure have been quiet.Got anything you'd like to talk about?
Ummm, picked a bad azz little single seat rear engine car up from a dude in Alabama the other week. You may know the rig:flipoff2:

http://www.rockmidgetphotography.com/photos/352528549_Brwii-L-1.jpg

Now dats what I'm talking about.Looking gooood.Hope you get as much fun from it as a certian fat,bald headed,four eyed,big eared feller did and he didn't even drive it.Get plenty of seat time in it and let it eat.Don't be SCARED.Go ahead and tell Nolen to post some high flying pics anytime.Your turn


PS Just think some little feller in Jellico has one of your side panels

Ummm, picked a bad azz little single seat rear engine car ... You may know the rig

Oh shit, you ain't qualified to operate that machine. :flipoff2:

cm "very cool" k

Oh shit, you ain't qualified to operate that machine. :flipoff2:

cm "very cool" k
Shhhh, don't tell anyone :flipoff2:

Getting some seat time in it at Grayrock this weekend. Going to play on the what is left of the course.

Shhhh, don't tell anyone :flipoff2:

Getting some seat time in it at Grayrock this weekend. Going to play on the what is left of the course.
Nice!:)