: 110 welders....
stRanger 10-14-2008, 07:54 AM I'm lookin into buying a welder, do to ease of use (my place and my dads) 110 is going to be the way I need to go as there isn't 220 available at his small workshop out behind his house.
I'm wanting to get one that has gas hook ups, and in the $500 range but I'm not sure which will be my best option. I've gone to tractor supply and they have Hobart, then I've gone to lowes and they have Lincoln I believe it is. I've looked at cyberweld.com and they sell a lot of Miller, which seem to be even higher priced. I guess I'm wanting the strongest welder that I can get for the money..
Whats everyones opinions on which welder/welders are the best, or is there a website I've missed that gives comparisons of many welders?
Thanks
4x4mike 10-14-2008, 09:13 AM I was in the same boat as you, no 220v, mobility and cost. Locally there are the Home Depot versions of the Lincoln welders for pretty cheap. I've looked at a lot of welders online and was thinking I'd buy a Hobart if going new.
Long story short I bought a HF 120v, 28 amp, welder. I use the welder for assorted things around the house, not building a rig. If it's anything for the rig it's a bracket or something light duty and small, not suspension, bumpers, etc. Because it's little stuff and not being used frequently I decided I didn't want to spend a ton, as such I went with a flux core welder. The welds aren't as clean as a gas machine but their strong and can be cleaned up and painted. If I need something more than what I've got I have people that can do it for me. Space was a consideration as well. I don't have a ton of room in the garage for a full cart and gas tank especially for something that isn't used a lot. My model fits the bill well and it's been fun to tinker with.
stRanger 10-14-2008, 10:41 AM You can run flux core on a welder that has gas hookups so long as you aren't using gas correct?? Cause the ones I'm lookin at have the hook-ups for gas and I assumed you didn't HAVE to use the gas, you could just use flux core then switch over if you wanted to use gas...
actionpaintball 10-14-2008, 10:45 AM You can easily run flux wire in a gas type wire welder. Just use the same diameter wire and check polarity (most of the time polarity is switched when converting back and forth)...also-some brands change the tips/cups (but is not necessarily required as there is not shielding gas). You usually get better penetration with flux wire anyway-so if you are limited to a 110 welder-using flux with allow thicker base materials to be welded.
Jorge Meza 10-14-2008, 10:49 AM If you're looking for portability and reliability i would say go for the Hobart 140. You can use Flux cable or you can plug the gas tank to it and do perfect welds.
stRanger 10-14-2008, 11:13 AM Might sound stupid and such, but would the quality of a hobart from Tractor supply be the same quality I might buy from elsewhere? I'm a firm believer sometimes buying from a company who gets bulk stuff the quality is tuned down to meet production cost requirements...
PAToyota 10-14-2008, 11:22 AM I know it isn't going to quite fit into your price range, but take a look at the Millermatic DVI or Passport models - best of both worlds. You have size and 110V for portability and 220V when you can use it and need it.
actionpaintball 10-14-2008, 01:34 PM Look for a good used one...I picked up a spare lincoln 135amp wire welder (home depot kind) with new self darkening mask, tank and regulator, cart and assessories for $200. Looks like it has about 1 pound gone through it. Even if you did not want to use the tank-the small tanks usually can just be exchanged (no rental needed)....
Might sound stupid and such, but would the quality of a hobart from Tractor supply be the same quality I might buy from elsewhere? I'm a firm believer sometimes buying from a company who gets bulk stuff the quality is tuned down to meet production cost requirements...
Should be fine - also check prices at Northentool.com
The Hobart 140 is a fine little machine. You just reverse the polarity when using flux core wire. Flux core burns hotter as well - but not as pretty.
dopeassjackson 10-14-2008, 06:37 PM i own a lincoln 135sp, its the variable one not with a position switch. i got it for around $400 with regulator from a local welding place. im preaty happy with it but 110 has its limits and are now looking for a 220V welder. i have put about 40lbs of flux core and about 15Lbs of mild steel wire through it.
if they make a switchable one that might be a better choice. also if you have a 220v dryer near by you might look into hooking it to that
ChrisCo 10-14-2008, 08:12 PM My Lincoln Pro Mig 135 (Lowes version) was used for the SAS on this rig:
http://www.watrd.com/swap/swap.php
We just multi-passed the crap out of everything with flux core. Yeah, I'd of been more comfortable doing it with a 220v unit, but I haven't seen any problems related to the weld, and this was done 5 years ago, and I give every weld a quick visual check nearly every time I see that rig (yes, I do crawl under it every time :flipoff2:)
Make sure the breaker can handle the load. The welder was on a dedicated 30 amp circuit for the SAS above... It never tripped the breaker there, but I've tripped the 20 amp (I think) breaker a few times in my new shop (not a dedicated circuit).
If I had to do it again, and knew what I know now, I would have gone with a 220 unit from the get-go, but the 110 hasn't failed me...yet (knock on wood).
stRanger 10-15-2008, 10:05 AM Yea my dad's lil work shop has no option for 220... it's an older house and just has 110 ran to it and would be too costly to add 220.. I will be doing a lil welding on my rig, but I will just do the multiple pass thing, after much practice with the welder of course, I have 220 access at my place, (fuse panel is in my garage) but not at my dads so that tosses it out the window... Unless they make a cheap 220/110 welder which I haven't seen...
JFoster 10-15-2008, 10:21 AM I have the handler 140 . I think I gave ~$460 with tax on sale at orschlens. Northern had them for about the same. So far I like mine. I have only run flux as some of the stuff has been 1/4" and as stated the flux burns hotter.
Thinking about switching to gas for the roll cage to make it prettier...prob won't bother... just spend time removing the slag. I had a Clarke 130en before the hobart...it wasn't bad either. Sold it to a friend, still works good and now prob 4 years old.
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