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.Picked up a Ranger for free last night, has a 4 inch suspension, Trailmaster I'm thinking. 3 inch body lift which wont be used. Lift is goin on my Explorer :grinpimp:

Post up picz!

I'll see if I can get some tonight, the ranger is pretty hammered body wise, no title either so I will probably scrap it.

Still waiting on the cool stuff :flipoff2:

.Picked up a Ranger for free last night, has a 4 inch suspension, Trailmaster I'm thinking. 3 inch body lift which wont be used. Lift is goin on my Explorer :grinpimp:

Drop plate style lifts are known to knock a hole into the front diff housing. Check full stuff clearance before airing it out...

Hey fuck off Pro, I'm a po boy :flipoff2: And Tottaled I was planning on it, especially since I am using Wildhorses crawler springs

Scrap has bottomed out...just so you know.

Yea I just am gonna need to get rid of it, no money in it. Hell it might even pay for fuel to get it there

Scrap has bottomed out...just so you know.

Ain't that the truth.I went down to drop a few axles and some body panels,weighed in at 1680 and was payed 58.75.Probably wouldn't have put a full tank in my truck.Big blocks eat gas like the cookie monster eats cookies.

Drop plate style lifts are known to knock a hole into the front diff housing.

Yea, I'm callin BS on this.

It has happened, yes, but thats because stupid fucks don't put extended bump stops on their trucks and then try and banzai em off 6' ledges and shit, only to have the diff get a hole poked in em. I had a plate style drop for the passenger side arm when I had my 6" longarm TTB lift and it worked fine. Granted, I had the bumpstop extensions on there though. Do they limit flex? Yea, but ya gotta take the good with the bad. For a once a month wheeler, they will work fine.

I blame the hole in the diff. not on the plate style drop, but rather on stupid people who air their truck without any extended bumpstops and then wonder why the fawk their pig is fucked up. Not syain it doesn't happen, but don't blame the lift on a shitty lift installation job.

awesome, so all the work and money to lift for better flex and wheeling is completely negated by the NEED for taller bumpstops to keep you from destroying you diff!!

remind me why fords are so fawking cool again.

Granted, I had the bumpstop extensions on there though. Do they limit flex? Yea, but ya gotta take the good with the bad.

Not if you get a properly designed lift :flipoff2:

Not if you get a properly designed lift :flipoff2:
Must be nice to know that 34s are gonna be the biggest yur gonna be able to run with yur D35. Lift design doesn't mean dick if the axle isn't going to stay together.:flipoff2:


awesome, so all the work and money to lift for better flex and wheeling is completely negated by the NEED for taller bumpstops to keep you from destroying you diff!!

remind me why fords are so fawking cool again.

Remind me why u stepped into the Ford forums if all you're gonna do is start shit? Don't be all pissed because your ass is a lil sore cuz you got a little too drunk last nite at the local queer bar and let some big ass dude have his way with you.

Fuck you and stay the fawk outta the Ford section

BTW....got pics up yet?

not my fault ford built/builds it truck the way they do.

dont be all but hurt trying to overly defend your brand name loyalty down falls.

Ah damn pics, I knew I forgot something, the ranger is also giving up its 5 speed for the cause

Must be nice to know that 34s are gonna be the biggest yur gonna be able to run with yur D35. Lift design doesn't mean dick if the axle isn't going to stay together.:flipoff2:

What the fuck does this have to do with anything I just said? Properly designed brackets don't require ridiculous bump stops, period.
This B2 doesn't need bumpstops because Skyjacker built proper brackets, like trkklr77 said, what is the point in lifting it if you need bump stops that restrict travel, it's like taking 2 steps forward and one step back.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/6/web/702000-702999/702959_62.jpg

not my fault ford built/builds it truck the way they do.

And how is it that they build their trucks exactly Mr. Ford expert?

dont be all but hurt trying to overly defend your brand name loyalty down falls.

So let me get this straight, you expect to come into a brand specific forum, slam the shit outta the said brand, withou havin anyone chew yur ass out? Again, go fuck yurself.



What the fuck does this have to do with anything I just said? Properly designed brackets don't require ridiculous bump stops, period.
This B2 doesn't need bumpstops because Skyjacker built proper brackets, like trkklr77 said, what is the point in lifting it if you need bump stops that restrict travel, it's like taking 2 steps forward and one step back.

Yea, I've seen that rig. It's 4x4Junkie's. He used to be on TRS a lot. He was a cool guy who kind of led the way back in the day with a lot of the innovation that surrounded TTB. He also will be the first to tell you, like I said, anything bigger than a 35 " tire is pointless on TTB because your chances of breaking parts escalates tenfold. If your cool with runnin 35s, great. Personally I got sick and tired of dealing with the ever changing Camber, rotating tires every month, the shitty front wheelbearings and hubs (even if you use Jeep hubs), the limited flex (even with Jeep coils and clearancing your axle housing and yokes for 760X U-joints), the lack of aftermarket support for TTB axleshafts, and all of the stuff that negatively plagues the TTB.

Some guys love it. A lot more hate it. I wouldn't mind building up a TTB truck again, but it's not what I'm looking for right now.

I understand the whole point about properly designed brackets, dude, so chill out. No need to get all pissed about it. But yes, with Duff, or Skyjacker brackets, 5.13s, 35s, a doubler and the 4.0 witha stick, a Bronco II or Ranger is extremely capable.

It just gets old, hearing guys bitching about not being able to run 38s and keep their D35 together. That's waaay too big of a tire for that axle.

Yea, I've seen that rig. It's 4x4Junkie's. He used to be on TRS a lot. He was a cool guy who kind of led the way back in the day with a lot of the innovation that surrounded TTB. He also will be the first to tell you, like I said, anything bigger than a 35 " tire is pointless on TTB because your chances of breaking parts escalates tenfold. If your cool with runnin 35s, great. Personally I got sick and tired of dealing with the ever changing Camber, rotating tires every month, the shitty front wheelbearings and hubs (even if you use Jeep hubs), the limited flex (even with Jeep coils and clearancing your axle housing and yokes for 760X U-joints), the lack of aftermarket support for TTB axleshafts, and all of the stuff that negatively plagues the TTB.

Some guys love it. A lot more hate it. I wouldn't mind building up a TTB truck again, but it's not what I'm looking for right now.

I understand the whole point about properly designed brackets, dude, so chill out. No need to get all pissed about it. But yes, with Duff, or Skyjacker brackets, 5.13s, 35s, a doubler and the 4.0 witha stick, a Bronco II or Ranger is extremely capable.

It just gets old, hearing guys bitching about not being able to run 38s and keep their D35 together. That's waaay too big of a tire for that axle.
Yeah it's Junkie's rig, this was never a discussion about tire size or axle strength, purely about suspension component design, I'm well aware of the limits of the D35 and don't plan on anything bigger than 35s or jeep coils. I'm indifferent to the TTB, for a form of IFS it's great but of course has it's limitations. If I get to the point that I want go bigger and better a D44 with alloys will take it's place. As far as shitty wheel bearings, if you set them up properly (hand tight inner nut and outer cranked over 200 FT/LBS) you'll probably never have a problem with them.

remind me why fords are so fawking cool again.

seems like you post some useful info in the chevy forum. why dont you stay the fuck in there

i do, but i saw "i got some cool stuff" and the preview didnt show any thing that warrented shit slaming but my interstes where peaked so i thought, hey there are some cool ford build around maybe i could learn something.

so i see what the poster was going on about blah blah
scoll down read on, [if im going to run a recon rig i need to know fail and common prob with other vehicles not just chevy and dana]

then i get to this.
Drop plate style lifts are known to knock a hole into the front diff housing. Check full stuff clearance before airing it out...
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if you have a system like this why the fawk would you not tear it out 4 second after buying the truck off the lot?

i do typicaly, but the post caught my atention and i decide to look in,

reading on i come to this

Drop plate style lifts are known to knock a hole into the front diff housing. Check full stuff clearance before airing it out...

if you seriously dont understand what is wrong with this system or the suspension itself you need to get the fawk out of pirate.

i didnt come here to start chevy ford dodge pissing match, but when there is such a glaring fault and ford is the only one who uses this system........

i come around the other forums to learn, if i am going to run a recon rig i need to know common problems and failures.

maybe you should cuss and call me out some more, i think that might solve your suspesion flaws....

explain what ford has to do with some aftermarket company's failure of a design. seems like you should go rail on traildisaster or whoever makes the kit.

i've done 100s of dezert miles in stock ttb setups and have yet to put a hole in the diff or even break anything. sure it isnt the end-all for rockcrawling but from the factory, it isnt a poor design by any means.

explain what ford has to do with some aftermarket company's failure of a design. seems like you should go rail on traildisaster or whoever makes the kit.

i've done 100s of dezert miles in stock ttb setups and have yet to put a hole in the diff or even break anything. sure it isnt the end-all for rockcrawling but from the factory, it isnt a poor design by any means.

X2:smokin:

explain what ford has to do with some aftermarket company's failure of a design. seems like you should go rail on traildisaster or whoever makes the kit.

i've done 100s of dezert miles in stock ttb setups and have yet to put a hole in the diff or even break anything. sure it isnt the end-all for rockcrawling but from the factory, it isnt a poor design by any means.

x3....

ive been wheeling my b2 with stock suspension for over a year, 31's and 3" body lift and i have yet to do any damage other then broken shafts. the TTB setup if perfect for alot of people and is a great setup if you arent a hardcore wheeler. hell i flex and crawl just as good as a built up jeep with 4" of lift and 36's (dont ask, he killed his fenders for the clearance). i dont know where im really going with all this but im bored :flipoff2:


btw, TTB dont flex worth a shit? hows 19" of travel? damn good for a TTB if you ask me.
http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/zimmerman_ttb.htm

at how many " of travle does it stop producing ground presure and is just droop from the wheel weight?

explain what ford has to do with some aftermarket company's failure of a design. seems like you should go rail on traildisaster or whoever makes the kit.

Ed Zachary...

Thanks for playing.. buh bye.

Ed Zachary...

Thanks for playing.. buh bye.

huh?:confused:



Anyways, fuck yea it can flex well. Desert guys are still using it and it hasn't been readily available on a new truck for over 10 years.

Just takes a lot more time, quite a bit more effort and some money to make it work for ya and hold up when you're flexing that much...

Hey asshole,
Sound "Ed Zachary" out, like you did with "Hooked on Phonics" and think "foreigner" talk.






Let me know when the lightbulb finally clicks on :flipoff2:

say it in chinese he means ei exactly

What the fuck does this have to do with anything I just said? Properly designed brackets don't require ridiculous bump stops, period.
This B2 doesn't need bumpstops because Skyjacker built proper brackets, like trkklr77 said, what is the point in lifting it if you need bump stops that restrict travel, it's like taking 2 steps forward and one step back.


Junkies running Modified 2.5" Rancho drops.

Desert travel and crawling travel are two different things.

BTW Where are those Damn Pictures???:flipoff2:

Well no pics of teh lift yet but some guy tried to kill me in his Dodge today

Dude.....that's the suck....

Pics as promised

The stacked blocks were a nice touch

Yep, that's a trail master lift.

Yea I figured, Lo and behold the pumpkin had a hole punched in the top of it

The stacked blocks were a nice touch

Wow, that brings the gay. Have you tracked down the guy who tried to kill you in the dodge and eaten his young yet?

Eh I just popped a new taillight in it, he's the one thats gonna have the massive bill. I bet a bedside for an 05 Dodge is about 3k :grinpimp:

I'm sure, stuff like that for the new rigs is ridiculous. Still, it would be helpful if you had his address. Then you could wait for him to get the new bed, round up about ten of your buddies; then everybody take a dump in it.

Bet that would have him scratching his head the next morning :laughing:

LMAO. I'll have to ask him next time I see him, I fill his propane tanks for his forklifts but I dont think he recognized me. Speekin of shittin in peoples beds whens the next time you are gonna be in my neck of the woods?

Speekin of shittin in peoples beds whens the next time you are gonna be in my neck of the woods?

Probably not until early next spring. But since I've just bought a second house that has a new pimptastic 40x80 shop I'll be having a shop warming party for it......so it sounds like you need to make it down MY way. Beers (kegs) on me :homer:

Oh snap, I see that the epic douchenozzle "joeblow" has decided he can fool us all at pirate again with his bullshit and has posted up about a new "project". Been a LONG time since I've seen him round these parts, not since he got laughed out of here around a year ago. Brb :laughing:

40x80 you say? Not bad atall. It does sound like I need to make it down your way. When is said shindig?

40x80 you say? Not bad atall. It does sound like I need to make it down your way. When is said shindig?

Don't have a date set yet. I'll let you know when I do. But then, I've got a shit ton of room, plenty of beer and even more people usually hanging around drinking my damn beer.......so anytime you're down my way just give a shout out :smokin:

Sweet deal, I need to head to La Pine sometime, Portland would only add about 120 some odd miles more right.

Granted, I never won any awards for geography, but if you are headed down to La Pine I doubt Portland is even remotely that far out of the way. I'd say more like 60-80 miles. Small price to pay to hang out with a legend.............and drink all his beer :laughing:

Well I google mapped it, first stop Portland and to La Pine after some binge drinking. Not directly after mind you, wouldnt want to miss out on the chance of passing out in a legends new mega shop.

wouldnt want to miss out on the chance of passing out in a legends new mega shop.

The new shop even has an office, but more importantly a full bathroom with an actual bathtub, shower, etc. So you'd even have comfy place to sleep :laughing:

Yea, I might even have to go into production with some of the offroad products I've designed and copyrighted over the years. I've had the business name listed forever, probably time to stop being lazy and get with it now that I'll have a ginormous shop.

'Course, Cage is based right down the road from me. I might have to set their shop on fire first to get rid of any competition :homer:

Ah I saw one of Cages trucks in 4wheel n offroad, the rear suspension was so scary they wouldnt even show it dont worry. A shower and bathtub? Jumpin Jesus on a pogo stick man!

A shower and bathtub? Jumpin Jesus on a pogo stick man!

Sweet, huh? Its got a loft build into either end of the shop, and the loft above the full bath was plumbed for a full loft apartment (but was never finished). I figure I'll finish the loft apartment because either I or some of my asshat friends will probably spend many a night out there :D

Cool thing is, I've always wanted a ring or a cage (it beats beating the chit out of each other on the lawn like we usually do), and this shop will have room for it. Hell, I might as well throw my pool table in there too :smokin:

if you seriously dont understand what is wrong with this system or the suspension itself you need to get the fawk out of pirate.

i didnt come here to start chevy ford dodge pissing match, but when there is such a glaring fault and ford is the only one who uses this system........



Yeah OK IFS sucks ballz, but if I had to wheel an IFS system I would choose the TTB design over the torsion bar crap all the other mfg's seem to think is good.

Yep, that's a trail master lift.

The main beam bracket and the rad arm drops don't look like Trailmaster stuff to me. Looks more like BDS. The coils being orange scream Traildisaster though. Could be a botched together kit.

http://www.bds-suspension.com/Images/Kits/fk_033402.jpg

The main beam bracket and the rad arm drops don't look like Trailmaster stuff to me. Looks more like BDS. The coils being orange scream Traildisaster though. Could be a botched together kit.

http://www.bds-suspension.com/Images/Kits/fk_033402.jpg

Were you aware that BDS was a spinoff from Trail Master? The kits look the same cause the same guy designed them.

Snowthrower's BII had a Trail Disaster kit when he got it... I'm familiar with them.

Were you aware that BDS was a spinoff from Trail Master? The kits look the same cause the same guy designed them.

Snowthrower's BII had a Trail Disaster kit when he got it... I'm familiar with them.


Guess what. I had a trailmaster 4" lift at one time too. The brackets look nothing like the ones I had.

Guess what. I had a trailmaster 4" lift at one time too. The brackets look nothing like the ones I had.

Trailmaster ever have a longarm ext. radius arm lift?

Looks like the same bracket to me...

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b248/totalled/bronco2dotorg/536048_230_full.jpg

The orange coils and drop plate are a dead giveaway...