yes i searched.

Just to start, a cell in the back or lifting the tank through the floor is not an option, the jeep has to be street legal and maintain the backseat.

Is there anyone making tanks for a TJ besides Gen-right anymore? After an assload of searching i found KOZ but they said the tank line has been discountinued. Any direction would be helpfull. Not that i dont see the value of gen-right, but something about paying almost as much for a tank as for axles doesnt sit right.

Didn't search hard enough!:flipoff2:

Did you try to search the net instead of just pirate4x4? I know this is the site to be on, but you know theres like 800 billion other sites on the intraweb? :flipoff2:


Heres one from summit
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=RCI-2161A&N=700+115&autoview=sku

Ive seen others. It took me about 30 seconds to find that one btw.

By mentioning Genright and KOZ, I am pretty sure he is looking for a drop-in/bolt-on tank. No fabbing required. That appears to be the popular tank for relocations and through-the-floor conversion but not bolt-on.

Genright is pretty pricey but you get what you pay for. They have the market cornered. It helps to be the only one offering a product.

Did you try to search the net instead of just pirate4x4? I know this is the site to be on, but you know theres like 800 billion other sites on the intraweb? :flipoff2:


Heres one from summit
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=RCI-2161A&N=700+115&autoview=sku

Ive seen others. It took me about 30 seconds to find that one btw.

Funny, i didnt see anywhere on that page where is mention it was for a tj and would use its sending unit, ect, thank you so much for teaching me how the internet works. :flipoff2: Thats about as usefull as sending me a link to a TIG and an aluminum distributor (wouldve been expected on hardcore forum)

Did you try to search the net instead of just pirate4x4? I know this is the site to be on, but you know theres like 800 billion other sites on the intraweb? :flipoff2:


Heres one from summit
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=RCI-2161A&N=700+115&autoview=sku

Ive seen others. It took me about 30 seconds to find that one btw.

Yes for further clarification, this is for a TJ, to accomodate a stretch of 4" with a d60 or 14bolt, to remain in the factory location, for use with the factory sending unit and guage hookups, for a street legal trail rig. Is that enough disclaimers?

Apparently you didn't search enough

You can mount a cell like that behind your rear seat, install the TJ ring from KORE or Copperhead fab and use your stock sending unit.

If you want to leave the tank underneath the jeep, then you are going to spend $$ on a stretch tank like genright:flipoff2:

Apparently you didnt read enough. A cell isnt an option

Apparently you didn't search enough

You can mount a cell like that behind your rear seat, install the TJ ring from KORE or Copperhead fab and use your stock sending unit.

If you want to leave the tank underneath the jeep, then you are going to spend $$ on a stretch tank like genright:flipoff2:

and i dont mind spending the money on one LIKE gen-right, i want to know what other ones ARE LIKE genright. The only other two options i found were old posts about BTF and KOZ witch have both since stopped.

well that becuase if you only want to bolt one on those are the only companys... you can have a shop fab one up but it will take some thinkin out. around here best shops would be the desert sand rail shops

other then that you can always make one... or have one made... im in the middle of one and it has not been too bad just takin forever cuz i never get to work on it. check the build... i will still have storage space and a back seat plus smog legal

So, from your info posted above we can gather that.....

1. You can't use a behind the seat fuel cell or go through the floor because its Illegal? :confused::shaking: Ok....If thats the case then how are you stretching your wheelbase? Not haveing a back seat is illegal now?:shaking: Do you know how many people don't use back seats in their rigs?? Theres probably more people that don't on this board then the people that do. Not to mention I've seen fuel cells and back seats being utilized, its not hard to figure out. When they fill up they just open the tail gate and roll the seat foward if they are using a flatter low profile fuel cell, or just pop the tail gate open for the one behind the seat..

2. You don't want to make anything thats already premade, work for you (like the link I gave you)

3. You don't want to use expensive model specific premade tanks because of the cost im assuming.

4. The sending unit, gas gauge are the least of your worries. Sounds to me like you are in over your head. So deep in fact that you don't even recognize sound advice when its given to you.

5. At least from the tone of your posts it doesn't sound like you can or have access to the tools to make one for yourself???

Sounds to me like you are asking us to magically pull a fawking tank out of mid-air for you that would be so easy to just bolt in and works without modifying anything at all. You want to modify your shit, these are the sacrafices you have to make. Almost none of our vehicles (the heavily modified ones) are 100% street legal anyways. If you think a cop is gonna get underneath the ass end of your vehicle and be like "Son im gonna have to write you up for that, improperly installed fuel cell" you need to get with reality.

and i dont mind spending the money on one LIKE gen-right, i want to know what other ones ARE LIKE genright. The only other two options i found were old posts about BTF and KOZ witch have both since stopped.

Why do you need one like Gen-Right, when Gen-Right makes exactly what you need and you are willing to pay for it? Sounds like you should just buy the tank from Gen-Right.

So, from your info posted above we can gather that.....

1. You can't use a behind the seat fuel cell or go through the floor because its Illegal? :confused::shaking: Ok....If thats the case then how are you stretching your wheelbase? Not haveing a back seat is illegal now?:shaking: Do you know how many people don't use back seats in their rigs?? Theres probably more people that don't on this board then the people that do. Not to mention I've seen fuel cells and back seats being utilized, its not hard to figure out. When they fill up they just open the tail gate and roll the seat foward if they are using a flatter low profile fuel cell, or just pop the tail gate open for the one behind the seat..

2. You don't want to make anything thats already premade, work for you (like the link I gave you)

3. You don't want to use expensive model specific premade tanks because of the cost im assuming.

4. The sending unit, gas gauge are the least of your worries. Sounds to me like you are in over your head. So deep in fact that you don't even recognize sound advice when its given to you.

5. At least from the tone of your posts it doesn't sound like you can or have access to the tools to make one for yourself???

Sounds to me like you are asking us to magically pull a fawking tank out of mid-air for you that would be so easy to just bolt in and works without modifying anything at all. You want to modify your shit, these are the sacrafices you have to make. Almost none of our vehicles (the heavily modified ones) are 100% street legal anyways. If you think a cop is gonna get underneath the ass end of your vehicle and be like "Son im gonna have to write you up for that, improperly installed fuel cell" you need to get with reality.

1. I cant use it through the floor becuase i told you i didnt want to, deal with it. I dont care how many people dont use the back seat, this is my also me winter weather vehicle so i need to.

2. The link you gave me was for a generic aluminum cell, not at all what i asked for.

3. I undestand any tank will be expensive, i just dont like having only one option.

4 You think im over my head becuase i am disputing the fact that you cant read into the original request? thats a good assumption you got there.

5. Ill give you this one. Correct, i do not want to deal with making a gas tank at all.

The legality issue was to hopefully ward off the hordes of unhelpfull piraters whos response wouldve just been to use a fuel cell instead of actually answering the question.

Why do you need one like Gen-Right, when Gen-Right makes exactly what you need and you are willing to pay for it? Sounds like you should just buy the tank from Gen-Right.

this thread was for OPTIONS.

Ill re-word this yet AGAIN and make it as simple as possible,

Are there any manufactures still producing gas tanks similar to Gen rights tj stretch tank?

please answer with ONLY yes (insert company name) or no

I understand that he was asking for a similar bolt on tank like the ones genright offers, and like BTF and KOZ previously offered. I have to agree with Snowrydr01 here. You guys come off like you can't read a fawkin paragraph asking for advice. Its his rig and he can put whatever type of fuel tank in that he wants, backseat/no backseat, cut up floor or not. Legality aside, it was clear what set up he wanted. Who cares about the reasons. Unfortunately, I have not seen anyone else that currently offers a drop in tank for a stretch. So, short answer, you'll probably have to get it from genright, or look harder than I did. :D

Must be a little boring in the hardcore forum today...
Charlie

Well thank you that was very helpfull:D

I understand that he was asking for a similar bolt on tank like the ones genright offers, and like BTF and KOZ previously offered. I have to agree with Snowrydr01 here. You guys come off like you can't read a fawkin paragraph asking for advice. Its his rig and he can put whatever type of fuel tank in that he wants, backseat/no backseat, cut up floor or not. Legality aside, it was clear what set up he wanted. Who cares about the reasons. Unfortunately, I have not seen anyone else that currently offers a drop in tank for a stretch. So, short answer, you'll probably have to get it from genright, or look harder than I did. :D

Must be a little boring in the hardcore forum today...
Charlie

Fine I'll play, you troll. :flipoff2:

I personally have never seen another company as of late offering a new stretch.

What I might recommend is something I have been thinking of for some time now that has certainly been done before.

How about working with the factory mounts on the tank? You can possible add a small body lift, and tuck the gas tank up quite a few inches which may be the ticket.

I have also seen someone put a gas tank from a different vehicle along side the frame rail near the transfer case and tranny. Kind of like how the JK is set up now.

Hope that helps you whiney biotch. :flipoff2:

i already answered it... ^ :)

Not going to read all the dribble on this thread, but in short:
BTF, Koz, Nth degree all made simular tanks to the Gen-Right. To the best of my knowledge non of them do any more (although rumor has it BTF will bring them back).
In regards to your 14-bolt or 60. I used the Gen-Right tank on my YJ with a 14-bolt and gained 5 inches in the rear wheelbase. Their price is comparable to the other guys who no longer have them and better than any custom tank price I've seen. I've been happy with the price, product, and service I've received from Gen-Right..... see sig.

here you go
http://72.22.74.169/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16274

Is there anyone making tanks for a TJ besides Gen-right anymore?

Ok, to answer your exact question. No

Non Hardcore is not the place to act tuff. He asked a simple question. You didnt give an answer to his simple question. "...answer stuff, or don't post." Very simple rule.
If you dont like the newbs then dont feed them and they will go away. Keep the flaming in Hardcore.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=401516
Did you try to search the net instead of just pirate4x4? I know this is the site to be on, but you know theres like 800 billion other sites on the intraweb? :flipoff2:


Heres one from summit
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=RCI-2161A&N=700+115&autoview=sku

Ive seen others. It took me about 30 seconds to find that one btw.

Whatever happens this new forum is not going to allow the flaming and whining.

So be that as it may no flaming, no whining, answer stuff, or don't post.



So, from your info posted above we can gather that.....

1. You can't use a behind the seat fuel cell or go through the floor because its Illegal? :confused::shaking: Ok....If thats the case then how are you stretching your wheelbase? Not haveing a back seat is illegal now?:shaking: Do you know how many people don't use back seats in their rigs?? Theres probably more people that don't on this board then the people that do. Not to mention I've seen fuel cells and back seats being utilized, its not hard to figure out. When they fill up they just open the tail gate and roll the seat foward if they are using a flatter low profile fuel cell, or just pop the tail gate open for the one behind the seat..

2. You don't want to make anything thats already premade, work for you (like the link I gave you)

3. You don't want to use expensive model specific premade tanks because of the cost im assuming.

4. The sending unit, gas gauge are the least of your worries. Sounds to me like you are in over your head. So deep in fact that you don't even recognize sound advice when its given to you.

5. At least from the tone of your posts it doesn't sound like you can or have access to the tools to make one for yourself???

Sounds to me like you are asking us to magically pull a fawking tank out of mid-air for you that would be so easy to just bolt in and works without modifying anything at all. You want to modify your shit, these are the sacrafices you have to make. Almost none of our vehicles (the heavily modified ones) are 100% street legal anyways. If you think a cop is gonna get underneath the ass end of your vehicle and be like "Son im gonna have to write you up for that, improperly installed fuel cell" you need to get with reality.

Whatever happens this new forum is not going to allow the flaming and whining.

So be that as it may no flaming, no whining, answer stuff, or don't post.

How about working with the factory mounts on the tank? You can possible add a small body lift, and tuck the gas tank up quite a few inches which may be the ticket.


Hmm, after reading this thread, I think I am going to try this. I have to put a 1" BL on mine for the tranny I am using in my build. I looked into the gen-rite and it only gives you 1" more ground clearance over the stock tank and stays in the stock location. So in theory, you should be able to accomplish the same thing by putting the 1" BL on and moving the stock tank up after adjusting the tank mounts. There is some slight room above the tank now, so you may be able to get a little more than 1" to make up for what evere type of new skid you do also...

Non Hardcore is not the place to act tuff. He asked a simple question. You didnt give an answer to his simple question. "...answer stuff, or don't post." Very simple rule.
If you dont like the newbs then dont feed them and they will go away. Keep the flaming in Hardcore.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=401516


He asked a hardcore question and expected to get a jeepsunlimited answer that was basically on par with trying to bend physics. He had too restraining of parameters for his build and for what he was trying to do, and he didn't want to spend the cash for the gen-right tank (can't blame him there). But building a modified vehicle is about compromises. Just because he wants his back seat, doesn't want a fuel cell, doesn't want to pay for a gen-right tank, doesn't mean hes gonna get it. You don't post a scenario like he did then start complaining about not getting the answers you were looking for.

And nobody flamed him either. :shaking:

He asked a hardcore question and expected to get a jeepsunlimited answer that was basically on par with trying to bend physics. He had too restraining of parameters for his build and for what he was trying to do, and he didn't want to spend the cash for the gen-right tank (can't blame him there). But building a modified vehicle is about compromises. Just because he wants his back seat, doesn't want a fuel cell, doesn't want to pay for a gen-right tank, doesn't mean hes gonna get it. You don't post a scenario like he did then start complaining about not getting the answers you were looking for.

And nobody flamed him either. :shaking:

This is a bolt-on section. Nuff said.

1. I cant use it through the floor becuase i told you i didnt want to, deal with it. I dont care how many people dont use the back seat, this is my also me winter weather vehicle so i need to.

I don't have to deal with it, its not my jeep that im trying to stretch using a 1-ton axle and expect that everything is going to just magically clear itself.

2. The link you gave me was for a generic aluminum cell, not at all what i asked for.

Fair enough.

3. I undestand any tank will be expensive, i just dont like having only one option.

Ok. Again fair enough

4 You think im over my head becuase i am disputing the fact that you cant read into the original request? thats a good assumption you got there.

I think you are over your head because of the fact that you are trying to accomplish the impossible. You want your cake and be able to eat it too. You need to get more realistic and be a little more flexible, or don't stretch your WB and avoid these problems all together.

5. Ill give you this one. Correct, i do not want to deal with making a gas tank at all.

Thats fine, neither would I. But thats means we are at the mercy of whatever is on the market at the moment.

The legality issue was to hopefully ward off the hordes of unhelpfull piraters whos response wouldve just been to use a fuel cell instead of actually answering the question.

Thats because a fuel cell is the simplest and cheapest solution when stretching a rear axle. They allow the use of factory equipment, they fit almost anywheres, they don't break the bank, and Yes, you can continue to use the back seat with them.


this thread was for OPTIONS.

Ill re-word this yet AGAIN and make it as simple as possible,

Are there any manufactures still producing gas tanks similar to Gen rights tj stretch tank?

please answer with ONLY yes (insert company name) or no

You choices look pretty cut and dry, I searched a shit ton for you and didn't find anything that you don't already know about. At this point you can.

-Use the Gen-right tank.
-Use the correct fuel cell for you application and make a compromise in your build.
-Don't stretch your rear axle.

Let us know how it goes, I'm interested in what you decide to do. Good Luck

This is a bolt-on section. Nuff said.


And thats supposed to mean what in reguards to the OP's question? Don't give him an answer he doesn't want to hear?

It wasn't a bolt on question if you want to get technical, so in all actually if you wanted to get picky it should have been over in Hardcore tech. Sorry he didn't get a fast simple answer, sometimes there just isn't one. Nuff said.

wow, did this thread get out of controll fast, it was a fairly simple question? I didnt ask for other options to fab my own, or anyones opinion of my plans. All i asked is if there was another manufacturer since the other two big ones are non existent. Im not sure how you can jump to a conclusion about my personal build skills based upon what little information has been given about the specs of my build or my history.

However this is a great example of why telling people to search doesnt work. This was a VERY simple question that is now 26 posts deep instead of a simple "no" at the begnining.

wow, did this thread get out of controll fast, it was a fairly simple question? I didnt ask for other options to fab my own, or anyones opinion of my plans. All i asked is if there was another manufacturer since the other two big ones are non existent. Im not sure how you can jump to a conclusion about my personal build skills based upon what little information has been given about the specs of my build or my history.

However this is a great example of why telling people to search doesnt work. This was a VERY simple question that is now 26 posts deep instead of a simple "no" at the begnining.

post nine answered it ;)

post nine answered it ;)

:laughing:

post nine answered it ;)

Ha, i think there might have been one other where someone read the question correctly too :p, and to think, this wasnt even started on a tuesday:flipoff2:

How about a stock tank from another vehicle? One that's long and skinny with a squished in middle. I'm thinkin Chebby side saddle or rear tank from sumpin else maybe squished on top but turn it on it's side. May have to cut and weld to get exact fit but still easier than complete fab. Cut and section if too long or cover the filler hole and relocate. Don't blame me if you blow yourself up but once cut open you could clean real well.

All the rest of you guys aren't thinking. This guys looking for alternatives. Here's one.

Paul "Bootyfab" B