: Dumb down this whole side by side thing for me


Roxywheels
10-29-2008, 11:31 PM
I/we want one. I have driven the Rhino and sat in the RZR. I'm female so too many options confuse me even more. I am blinded by pretty and shiney. :laughing: So, I need someone to dumb down the pratical side of these things for me. Here is what I know:

~I like the way the RZR sat versus the Rhino.

~The Rhino is kind of a dog as far as power. It sound like it is just going to wind out too much one day and just explode, not to mention I felt like it was going to rattle apart.

~I liked the instrument panel of the Rhino. The RZR seemed very stark. I told you I was blinded by pretty and shiney :laughing:

~I really don't want one in red or green. I would prefer black. And yes, I know this can be changed.

Now, as far as using it...

~We live in Colorado and will take it on trails here.

~We also go to the Hammers quite a bit

~I don't expect to rock crawl with it, but I would like it to handle a trail decently

~I want to go fast. :D

So, fire away and thanks for the help/advice! :roxy:

Crowdog
10-30-2008, 07:09 AM
There is no "perfect" choice.

For a completely stock unit, the 2009 Polaris RZR S (http://www.utvguide.net/polaris_rzr_s_review.htm) is hard to beat, but it does come in at $13,999. It is fast, has long travel and a lower CG than the Rhino or Teryx. The nice part about the RZR S vs. the standard RZR is more ground clearance (due to long travel and 26" Bighorns). I would classify the RZR as all sport. Of the three, the RZR has the weakest frame, but the lightest dry weight. If you have an issue with 50" wide trails, the RZR S will not fit.

The 700 EFI Rhino is a nice choice, but I too like to go fast and I think a twin cylinder is better suited. I have taken my Rhino on the Barret Lake (http://www.utvguide.net/trip_report_barrett_lake_2007.htm) and to Rubicon (http://www.utvguide.net/trip_report_utv_rubicon_run_2007.htm) and it did well. Not sure how long any of them would do with any long term pounding.

The one UTV you did not mention is the Kawaski Teryx (http://www.utvguide.net/kawasaki_teryx.htm). Most of my complaints for the 2008 model are addressed for 2009 (EFI, Fuel Gauge). The biggest drawback to the Teryx now is weight. Of the three, the Teryx has the most potential for engine performance work.

The Rhino & Teryx are more sport/utility. They have a large enough bed where you can throw some camping gear in a spent a few nights out in the wilderness. While you can do that with a RZR, it is harder to do with a smaller bed.

If you are going to spend much time playing around rocks, I would look into a UHMW skid plate for the one you choose.

Here is a little more side x side analysis (http://www.utvguide.net/utv_comparison.htm).

UTVs are a lot of fun. Good luck!

Big Rich
10-30-2008, 09:08 AM
Roxy,

Listen to what John says, he knows his stuff...

I will add that having seen the RZR and RZR-s rock crawl, with the right protection either one would be hard to beat.

Big

Roxywheels
10-30-2008, 11:41 AM
Thanks for the great comparison. That helps a lot. I'm way too ADD to research all of those details and then compare them myself :laughing: The RZR-S looks/sounds nice. I guess when Robert comes home on R & R we will just need to go look at all of them. This is his new obsession for this deployment. He is hell bent on buying one. :laughing:

Would you say that its better to buy something like the RZR-S that is already set up or to buy something lesser and build it yourself? I see can this turning into another very expensive hobby :laughing: :roxy:

camo
10-30-2008, 05:09 PM
Rhinos are fun to bear hunt in :flipoff2:

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa153/camo_p4x4/2008%20Bear%20hunt/bh24.jpg

Maxed Out Off Road
10-30-2008, 05:15 PM
Of the units mentioned, I like the Polaris way more. If you want to keep the initial buy in down, look at the ranger. Little less "sporty", if that is the right word, but from what I have seen they are faster in stock form.

I would find a few people that you can talk (you are persuasive, right :roxy:), and see the differences for yourself.

Crowdog
10-30-2008, 07:30 PM
If you are going to add long travel to a standard RZR, you are looking at $4k - $7k. The RZR S comes with it from the factory for about $3k, plus you get better tires and a higher output engine.

The aftermarket long travel kits will typically be better than the factory, but I was very impressed with the RZR S I drove in the dunes (put about 50 miles on it).

Crowdog
10-30-2008, 07:31 PM
Rhinos are fun to bear hunt in :flipoff2:

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa153/camo_p4x4/2008%20Bear%20hunt/bh24.jpg

I hope you showed Charlene a good time. :smokin:

Roxywheels
10-30-2008, 09:06 PM
Rhinos are fun to bear hunt in :flipoff2:

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa153/camo_p4x4/2008%20Bear%20hunt/bh24.jpg

I told you I don't need that to attract bears, they come right to my door. :flipoff2: :roxy:

Roxywheels
10-30-2008, 09:07 PM
If you are going to add long travel to a standard RZR, you are looking at $4k - $7k. The RZR S comes with it from the factory for about $3k, plus you get better tires and a higher output engine.

The aftermarket long travel kits will typically be better than the factory, but I was very impressed with the RZR S I drove in the dunes (put about 50 miles on it).

Ok, I thought the long travel kits were pretty expensive. I remember Robert showing me something about them and the cost being over $4000 and I just laughed at him and reminded him that we don't even have that into our 4Runner :laughing: :roxy:

Roxywheels
10-30-2008, 09:11 PM
Of the units mentioned, I like the Polaris way more. If you want to keep the initial buy in down, look at the ranger. Little less "sporty", if that is the right word, but from what I have seen they are faster in stock form.

I would find a few people that you can talk (you are persuasive, right :roxy:), and see the differences for yourself.

Robert has driven a Polaris, which is what started all of this. When he comes home from Iraq on R&R he'll be able to drive the Rhino here at the campgrounds and can make his comparison between those 2. I'm sure there will be a few different ones at KOH and maybe I can beg people to let me drive theirs. :roxy:

66cummins
10-31-2008, 12:06 AM
When does Robert come home for R&R? We have our Utv Rally in May. All the different side x sides are there and the major OEM's. You can test ride any kind you want there, all in one place.

www.utvrally.com

camo
10-31-2008, 05:04 PM
When does Robert come home for R&R?
www.utvrally.com

robert = roxys husband

R&R = Iraq warfighting

camo
10-31-2008, 05:05 PM
I told you I don't need that to attract bears, they come right to my door. :flipoff2: :roxy:

he came right to my door as well :flipoff2:

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa153/camo_p4x4/2008%20Bear%20hunt/bh28.jpg

nineinchyj
11-01-2008, 09:52 AM
I'll chime in but I'm no expert on these things. I ride a Polaris Ranger at work and I think they are pretty good performance wise but we have had to take it to the shop a lot. It's like a year old and have had front cv shafts replaced and the clutch, along with some other small things. The polaris rattles a lot and is really noisy.

Roxywheels
11-01-2008, 02:43 PM
When does Robert come home for R&R? We have our Utv Rally in May. All the different side x sides are there and the major OEM's. You can test ride any kind you want there, all in one place.

www.utvrally.com

That would be great but chances are he will be home before then. He is trying to get his R&R during KOH, but he'll get it when the Army thinks he should :laughing: :roxy:

Shoope1
11-01-2008, 03:25 PM
RZR-S I wished I would have waited now..
I got the regular RZR and they are awesome!

Roxywheels
11-01-2008, 03:34 PM
RZR-S I wished I would have waited now..
I got the regular RZR and they are awesome!

Are they super noisy and feel like they are going to rattle apart when you have them at speed? Thats the one thing I didn't like about the Rhino. :roxy:

roundeye
11-03-2008, 10:49 AM
I have a Ranger XP. Seats 3 people so its a bit bigger than the other ones but it will go just about anywhere you point it. We work it pretty hard and it has never let me down. I'd get another.

camo
11-03-2008, 01:48 PM
Are they super noisy and feel like they are going to rattle apart when you have them at speed? Thats the one thing I didn't like about the Rhino. :roxy:

you seem awfully concerned with your sxs going fast... you do realize that even the tricked out long arm fully fabbed big motor racer SXS are relatively slow.. right ?

buy one because they are fun, cute , cool...but not because they are FAST


even these guys who spend $50k tricking them out don't go fast.

Roxywheels
11-03-2008, 03:59 PM
you seem awfully concerned with your sxs going fast... you do realize that even the tricked out long arm fully fabbed big motor racer SXS are relatively slow.. right ?

buy one because they are fun, cute , cool...but not because they are FAST


even these guys who spend $50k tricking them out don't go fast.

Make up your damned mind, when I told you I wanted one that was cute oyu told me to stop being stupid :flipoff2: I know I'm not going to break speed records in the damned thing, but I would like it to be able to get out of its own way without falling apart. The Rhino is really noisy and that was only having it up to like 35mph. :roxy:

Shoope1
11-03-2008, 04:21 PM
I beat the piss out of mine and it has not ever failed me. I am sure i need to check the front brgs.. Only thing I have heard that some have had trouble with. The S model will be the best deal. You will trully love it..

Crowdog
11-04-2008, 10:43 AM
I clocked a RZR S with a GPS in the sand doing 51 mph. On the dirt, it will probably do 58 mph - stock.

creeks2
11-04-2008, 11:22 AM
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa153/camo_p4x4/2008%20Bear%20hunt/bh28.jpg[/QUOTE]

Okay this is my Rhino above, I think it all depend on your needs. I hunt,fish, go on the Rubicon,Etc...

But also I use my Rhino for working around my property a lot. So I need the bigger SideXSide. The Razer just don't have the room for me to haul:wood, dogboxes, and ofcourse my ice chest!!

Hope this helps!:)

camo
11-05-2008, 03:26 PM
I clocked a RZR S with a GPS in the sand doing 51 mph. On the dirt, it will probably do 58 mph - stock.


how much front and rear wheel travel does that RZR S have ?

speed in the dirt is relative to available wheel travel.


Jeepspeed doing 80mph with 10" of travel seems VERY fast and makes you pay attention.

Trophy Truck with 32" of travel doing 80mph over the same terrain will lull you to sleep.

A tricked race Rhino doing 50mph over the same section usually results in a wheel shearing off :laughing:

camo
11-05-2008, 03:27 PM
Make up your damned mind, when I told you I wanted one that was cute oyu told me to stop being stupid :flipoff2: I know I'm not going to break speed records in the damned thing, but I would like it to be able to get out of its own way without falling apart. The Rhino is really noisy and that was only having it up to like 35mph. :roxy:


oh stop your whining. I tried to get Pete to sell your his wifes Black and pink Rhino :flipoff2:

Crowdog
11-05-2008, 06:21 PM
how much front and rear wheel travel does that RZR S have ?

speed in the dirt is relative to available wheel travel.


Jeepspeed doing 80mph with 10" of travel seems VERY fast and makes you pay attention.

Trophy Truck with 32" of travel doing 80mph over the same terrain will lull you to sleep.

A tricked race Rhino doing 50mph over the same section usually results in a wheel shearing off :laughing:


RZR S has 12" of wheel travel.

5spd
11-05-2008, 06:46 PM
Roxy,
Keep an eye under the local Craigs List also. I see them there for under $9000 and most are about 2 yrs old. I saw a ranger in the Co. Springs area CL for $7500 a month back, only had 84 hrs on it and looked brand new, with winch & all the goods. I almost drove down to get it, but called and it was sold already....:(

jhama78
11-05-2008, 06:49 PM
if you end up with the RZR you can pick up a couple of MPH on the topend by removing the plastic spacer in the primary clutch. The spacer keeps the halves of the Primary from getting close enough to allow the belt to run all the way out at the edge of the sheave...

camo
11-06-2008, 04:18 PM
RZR S has 12" of wheel travel.


That is badass. is that the most travel of the sxs ?

Crowdog
11-07-2008, 11:02 AM
That is badass. is that the most travel of the sxs ?

Of the majors manufacturers, yes. Closest competitor is the Prowler with 10". Standard RZR has 9" and the Rhino has 7.3".

camo
11-07-2008, 02:33 PM
there ya have it roxy... if you want to go fast get the one with the most travel.

simple as that.

Roxywheels
11-07-2008, 11:21 PM
Thanks for all the help and info. I am going to go check out the RZR-S. At this time thats the one we are leaning towards, but I'm a girl so I need to touch it and see how cute it is in person :laughing: :roxy:

Jaggedx
11-10-2008, 09:25 PM
you seem awfully concerned with your sxs going fast... you do realize that even the tricked out long arm fully fabbed big motor racer SXS are relatively slow.. right ?

buy one because they are fun, cute , cool...but not because they are FAST


even these guys who spend $50k tricking them out don't go fast.

This RZR runs about 62mph and is running average race speeds that are very close to the production suv's and trucks in BITD and not far off the Jeepspeeds either. at the Blue Water GP we beat all but 2 of tht new trophy Lite trucks which are boasting 200 hp. But the UTV class is not and never will be a "fast Class" in the desert. Any way that's a cool pic.

BS JX

Jaggedx
11-10-2008, 09:31 PM
Thanks for all the help and info. I am going to go check out the RZR-S. At this time thats the one we are leaning towards, but I'm a girl so I need to touch it and see how cute it is in person :laughing: :roxy:

Hey Roxy,
If you are thinking about the RZR-S you will not be disapointed. They seem quite a bit quieter than the Rhino mailnly becasue of the engine design. (twin Vs Single Cyl) check out our website and take alook at the galleries http://jaggedx.com/gallery2/main.php/v/RZR/ These are just some of the custom RZR's we have built so if bling is your thing we have your ticket.
If you just have questions, feel free to call the shop, we will be happy to help you with anything you need. We are an aftermarket parner with Polaris but have tons of experience with all brands and models. Good luck and have fun.

BS JX

camo
11-13-2008, 05:01 PM
Hey Roxy,
If you are thinking about the RZR-S you will not be disapointed. They seem quite a bit quieter than the Rhino mailnly becasue of the engine design. (twin Vs Single Cyl) check out our website and take alook at the galleries http://jaggedx.com/gallery2/main.php/v/RZR/ These are just some of the custom RZR's we have built so if bling is your thing we have your ticket.
If you just have questions, feel free to call the shop, we will be happy to help you with anything you need. We are an aftermarket parner with Polaris but have tons of experience with all brands and models. Good luck and have fun.

BS JX


doesn't get any better then that offer. JX will make it goes as fast as one is ever gonna go.

redcj7
11-13-2008, 07:00 PM
I have a 2008 Teryx and just ordered a 2009 RZR-S. I think you would be happy with either. I am in the Denver area and would be happy to share the likes and dislikes when the RZR-S gets here. Should be in next week.

JPGUY
12-04-2008, 03:20 PM
I have a 2008 Teryx and just ordered a 2009 RZR-S. I think you would be happy with either. I am in the Denver area and would be happy to share the likes and dislikes when the RZR-S gets here. Should be in next week.

Alright Bill you let Damian drive the Lambo now you have to let me drive the RZR:flipoff2:

GPERX4
12-05-2008, 04:40 AM
Everything about them is expensive, even more so then my CJ. They are a pain in the butt to work on, but I got a good deal on my 99 Polaris Ranger 6x6.My 12 year old daughter loves driving it and it is a blast being driven around. There is noting shiny about this one, and I'm building a plow for it now.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/gperx4/Team%20Devil%20Frogg/DSCN2661.jpg

miniyota
12-05-2008, 09:29 AM
aww, thats a cute teddy bear. they must make them smaller in california.

Rhinos are fun to bear hunt in :flipoff2:

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa153/camo_p4x4/2008%20Bear%20hunt/bh24.jpg

JoeyD23
12-05-2008, 05:29 PM
I am a FNG here but know abit about SXS's...I know you mentioned the Poolaris RZR which CrowDog is right, the RZRs is the best SXS out of box in terms of power and travel. I own a LT rhino, does about 56 mph on flat hard pack desert like Occotillo Wells with a minimum ammount of modifications. On top of that it has a claimed 14" of travel by the company I got my LT kit from. The LT kits are expensive but are dropping. You could probably find one in the $3500 range with Shocks, Axles, and Hardware.

But if you can do it right from the start them get the Kawi Teyrx.......Best SXS out of ox, you get the power of a RZR and the size and versatlity of a RHino!

JUst the FNG's opinion.....

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb97/ulsjoeyd/Glamis%20Thanksgiving%2008/GlamisT-Day08012-1.jpg

redcj7
12-05-2008, 06:30 PM
Alright Bill you let Damian drive the Lambo now you have to let me drive the RZR:flipoff2:

You're on. Do I get to drive the buggy?

The RZR-S is awesome. I really liked the Teryx until I drove the RZR-S. Way faster, better suspension, just overall more fun.

Mr Roxy
12-12-2008, 07:59 AM
Hey Roxy,
If you are thinking about the RZR-S you will not be disapointed. They seem quite a bit quieter than the Rhino mailnly becasue of the engine design. (twin Vs Single Cyl) check out our website and take alook at the galleries http://jaggedx.com/gallery2/main.php/v/RZR/ These are just some of the custom RZR's we have built so if bling is your thing we have your ticket.
If you just have questions, feel free to call the shop, we will be happy to help you with anything you need. We are an aftermarket parner with Polaris but have tons of experience with all brands and models. Good luck and have fun.

BS JX

Thank you, we will definatly call you first when we get it. I will probably get one when I am home on R&R in feb. Hopefully there will be some on the lot to choose from so I can enjoy it when I am home.

66cummins
12-12-2008, 08:22 AM
Here is one for sale, little different cage on it.....


http://www.rhinoforums.net/showthread.php?t=21920

Roxywheels
12-17-2008, 12:13 AM
Thank you, we will definatly call you first when we get it. I will probably get one when I am home on R&R in feb. Hopefully there will be some on the lot to choose from so I can enjoy it when I am home.

I thought it was for me?? :flipoff2: :roxy:

CaryW
12-17-2008, 08:31 AM
Rzr-s dont stay on the lot. We got one in yesterday and are calling the folks on the list. Will be gone by Friday.

CreepnYJ
01-01-2009, 09:22 PM
I say get the Rhino, but I'm biased...

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w258/basicAR/100_2103.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w258/basicAR/100_2101.jpg

az_amsoil
01-02-2009, 03:00 PM
Roxy - I have a '08 Kawi Teryx, out of the box it does 42MPH (limiter) add a $200 CDI and it does 62MPH on hard pack. The Kawi is heavy, but the engine does not lack. Crawls great and will move when you need it. The added width (over a Rhino) adds more stability. I made mine a four seater and w/600lbs of poeple (200 each up front; 50 lb kid and 110 lb wife in back) it still does 60MPH and rides great on stock suspension. You can find some incredible deals on the '08 models (carb not FI), around $8k OTD

here is my ride:
http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq333/bobman34/Teryx/IMG_0323.jpg

JoshTurner
01-12-2009, 12:57 AM
Thanks for all the great info in this thread...Confirmed I want a RZR-S...Im like Roxy its hard for me to search & keep all the info straight & I dont know what questions to ask...LOL..

This helps a bit also..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uvw9yX5IRM&feature=related

rocyota
01-12-2009, 05:59 AM
right on that video says it all just depends on how and where you want to ride.i had a rhino now i have a rasor hands down the fun factor and speed of the rasor is hard to beat. we took three to moab last year most fun ive had in life good luck.

Rick1975
02-17-2009, 12:03 PM
I agree with whoever suggested Craigslist. These are some that have gone up recently in AZ:

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/mcy/1037966394.html
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/rvs/1037196738.html
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/rvs/1020581562.html
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/rvs/1018821035.html

and then big money....lol:
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/mcy/1010736598.html

the_white_shadow
02-17-2009, 02:24 PM
http://houston.craigslist.org/mcy/1022092457.html

This is how we do it in Texas.