For an AK to be compliant you need what, 6 out of 16 parts to be made in USA.


What's the most commonly replaced list of parts?

Receiver
Gas piston $15 Tapco
Trigger kit $32 Tapco G2
Pistol Grip $10 Tapco

That's 6 parts since the G2 kit counts for 3 parts.

Cutting the vertical fore grip off of a romy kit = a US made part correct?

Trigger question

Single hook vs Double hook ---- School me

No more than 10 imported parts. Figure out how many parts are in your particular AK - and do the math :D

This is the first time this subject has been posted on PBB right?

:flipoff2:

This is the first time this subject has been posted on PBB right?

:flipoff2:

This compares to going into the Suzuki section and posting that your t-case won't shift anymore :flipoff2:

Maybe Doc should sticky the AK and AR build threads as FAQ's -

I'm pretty sure it's been posted at least once before...


and no, cutting off the vertical grip does not make the part considered US-made.



Single hook vs. Double hook refers to the design of the trigger: One hook to hold back the hammer vs. two hooks to hold back the hammer.

There's no real advantage that I've been able to tell for either single or double. I have several double-hooked trigger groups, and several single-hooked ones. I prefer the single hook due to there being less friction surfaces on the moving parts.

Commonly replaced stuff is stock, handguard, pistol grip, gas piston, receiver, trigger, hammer, disconnector, muzzle brake. (don't have to replace all, just have the option of any of those).

Keep in mind that 922r is "not more than 10 imported parts", not "at least 6 US parts", so anything simply missing, doesn't add to your imported parts count.

Also, magazines consist of three parts (body, floorplate, follower, IIRC) so if you only use US made magazines, you can use a lot more imported parts actually in the rifle itself. Not that I would recommend that (I'd rather be able to legally use any magazine I can get my hands on) but it's out there.

Doc's thread is 5 pages back and I'm not reading 60 pages to find an answer that is easily given in 5 mikes by those in the know.


Single/Double - was wondering about the advantage of one over the other. I think I'll run with single everything else being the same.

Scott,

I was using the standard '16 parts to/in an AK as a guide. I get your point. I am not going to buy U$ made mags in order to run an OEM part though. How about you whip up a pile of US made gas pistons for CHEAP?! :flipoff2:

I was using the standard '16 parts to/in an AK as a guide. I get your point. I am not going to buy U$ made mags in order to run an OEM part though. How about you whip up a pile of US made gas pistons for CHEAP?! :flipoff2:

Cheap like $10-15 each? http://www.tapco.com/catalog.aspx?id=241 :laughing:

Edit: My personal preference on the US parts is grip, stock, receiver, and trigger group, as those are (IMO) the easiest to replace, and because (also IMO) the originals suck.

Cheap like $10-15 each? http://www.tapco.com/catalog.aspx?id=241 :laughing:

Edit: My personal preference on the US parts is grip, stock, receiver, and trigger group, as those are (IMO) the easiest to replace, and because (also IMO) the originals suck.

Like cheaper than that. :flipoff2:

Check with Pete - at one time he was selling a "kit" that included the FCG, piston, and pistol grip for around $35 I think? May have gone up since last year though...

Check with Pete - at one time he was selling a "kit" that included the FCG, piston, and pistol grip for around $35 I think? May have gone up since last year though...

His site hates me. I tried ordering a couple LPK's and ended up ordering $1600 worth of shit because it looked like the order was not going through...so I resubmitted it....5 times. :emb:

His site hates me. I tried ordering a couple LPK's and ended up ordering $1600 worth of shit because it looked like the order was not going through...so I resubmitted it....5 times. :emb:

PM him then you goober :p

His site hates me. I tried ordering a couple LPK's and ended up ordering $1600 worth of shit because it looked like the order was not going through...so I resubmitted it....5 times. :emb:

They call that user error.......:flipoff2:

I have like 1 or 2 pistons at my house.

PM him then you goober :p

I did.

They call that user error.......:flipoff2:

I would too, but I got an SQL error in two browsers on two different computers on the "Confirm order" stage. I say again, his site hates me. :flipoff2:

I have like 1 or 2 pistons at my house.

Sold!?! :laughing:

You fawkers are making me want an AK

You fawkers are making me want an AK



Then go get one.


Or better yet, go build one.

I would too, but I got an SQL error in two browsers on two different computers on the "Confirm order" stage. I say again, his site hates me.

It is one of the specific items you ordered. For the life of me I can't figure out why, but you are not the only one. I think RRA hacked my site to get more sales of their stuff or something.

The Century compliance sets I was selling I sold out of, sold over 100 of them.

What I can do is to get a Tapco grip, tapco black stock, and a G2 trigger group. Should be under 50$.
if I can find a source for pistons then I can drop the stock and price comes down.
I will try and get that added to the website, when I get some free time, April I am guessing :D

It is one of the specific items you ordered. For the life of me I can't figure out why, but you are not the only one. I think RRA hacked my site to get more sales of their stuff or something.

The Century compliance sets I was selling I sold out of, sold over 100 of them.

What I can do is to get a Tapco grip, tapco black stock, and a G2 trigger group. Should be under 50$.
if I can find a source for pistons then I can drop the stock and price comes down.
I will try and get that added to the website, when I get some free time, April I am guessing :D


Tapco should be able to provide gas pistons. I've used several of their AK pistons on a few builds in the past.

I know they don't sell to the general public any more, but if you could get on their distributor list, you might be able to pull in some additional business.

It's either the STAG LPK or the STAG LPK w/ ambi safety. At least I'm not alone. :laughing: I imagine you're pretty damned busy right now but another 'compliance kit' would be awesome.

It's either the STAG LPK or the STAG LPK w/ ambi safety. At least I'm not alone. :laughing: I imagine you're pretty damned busy right now but another 'compliance kit' would be awesome.



Not to draw buisiness away from aloharover, but akparts.com has FCG, gas piston, and pistol group compliance parts. And their price on the G2 set is one of the cheaper prices I've seen.

Not to draw buisiness away from aloharover, but akparts.com has FCG, gas piston, and pistol group compliance parts. And their price on the G2 set is one of the cheaper prices I've seen.

Will look into that as well. This sucks though, I'm trying to pay down debt ASAP and yet it's crunch time on getting my dirty dick beaters on parts.

And their price on the G2 set is one of the cheaper prices I've seen.


Cheeper then 25$?

:D

Will look into that as well. This sucks though, I'm trying to pay down debt ASAP and yet it's crunch time on getting my dirty dick beaters on parts.

I dont see anything happening with these parts any time soon.

I dont see anything happening with these parts any time soon.

What about complete uppers? Those are the expensive parts and I'm afraid that they'll be reclassified as 'weapons' themselves much like lowers are now. If uppers become serialized and or regulated then we're screwed IMO.

What about complete uppers? Those are the expensive parts and I'm afraid that they'll be reclassified as 'weapons' themselves much like lowers are now. If uppers become serialized and or regulated then we're screwed IMO.

How can 2 separate parts be individually considered ONE weapon? :confused:

NDS 3 receiver
G2 trigger group
Tapco PG
Tapco MB

Hack the donkey dick off, custom shape to hand. Stain stock with "green tea" and lacquer.

Done. :smokin:

NDS3 receiver
G2 trigger group
plastic furniture I traded for on a local board

http://www.4x4spot.com/images/other/evil_ak74_wip_001.JPG

How can 2 separate parts be individually considered ONE weapon? :confused:

Easily, all they have to do is declare it. Don't you remember the shendig a while back where people were worried about serialized uppers? It was even in a thread where they discussed serialized ammo.

NDS 3 receiver
G2 trigger group
Tapco PG
Tapco MB

Hack the donkey dick off, custom shape to hand. Stain stock with "green tea" and lacquer.

Done. :smokin:

Cool.

Easily, all they have to do is declare it. Don't you remember the shendig a while back where people were worried about serialized uppers? It was even in a thread where they discussed serialized ammo.

Registered parts - yes, I can understand that.

But you can't have 2 separate parts of ONE gun each be considered separate guns and require FFL transfer.

If you bought one gun - would you have to pay for transfer of TWO?


Wait, I take that back....


The government can find a way - whether it makes sense or not :shaking:

Registered parts - yes, I can understand that.

But you can't have 2 separate parts of ONE gun each be considered separate guns and require FFL transfer.

If you bought one gun - would you have to pay for transfer of TWO?


Wait, I take that back....


The government can find a way - whether it makes sense or not :shaking:

"Non-sporting barrel ban"

How do they make a distinction as to what barrels are "sporting" or not? It's legal to hunt with an AK in a lot of states--isn't that the root of "sporting", whether you can hunt with it or not? Target shooting is a sport too, but apparently not a favored one. Yet, barrels that could be used for "sporting" use, are banned from importation because ATF says they're "non-sporting".

See also the distinction between a shotgun and a destructive device--DD is anything with a bore over 1/2" that isn't sporting, with the definition of "sporting" an ATF judgement call.

You buy one set of tires, they register four tire serial numbers on the "in case there's a recall" paperwork. You buy one rifle, they run one background check and register five items: Upper receiver (s/n), lower receiver (s/n), barrel (s/n), firing pin (s/n), and bolt (s/n). And if you're in a state where you pay per transfer, yeah, maybe you get to pay for five transfers if you're buying a gun "evil" enough to have five "evil" parts.

Then go get one.


Or better yet, go build one.

It seems that there isn't a widespread consensus on whether it's worth it to build right now with the prices. And with them flying off the shelves, I'd rather see prices stabilize before I buy anything.

What about complete uppers? Those are the expensive parts and I'm afraid that they'll be reclassified as 'weapons' themselves much like lowers are now. If uppers become serialized and or regulated then we're screwed IMO.

I thought this was a thread on AKs?

So thats what I was talking about, Ak compliance parts.

It seems that there isn't a widespread consensus on whether it's worth it to build right now with the prices. And with them flying off the shelves, I'd rather see prices stabilize before I buy anything.


250$ is too much money for me to pay for a kit to build to sell. Specially when I had a couple dozen kits I picked up for 75$.

250 + 50 in compliance parts plus a 20$ flat and some time and you have a great rifle. And :tinfoil: its off book

It seems that there isn't a widespread consensus on whether it's worth it to build right now with the prices. And with them flying off the shelves, I'd rather see prices stabilize before I buy anything.



If anything, prices will continue to go up.

It's not cheaper to build than to buy right now, unfortunately, due to the increase in kit prices. However, there's many advantages to building your own, such as it being off the books, if that sort of thing is important to you.

Cheeper then 25$?

:D




meh. They've got them around 28 bucks or so.

Registered parts - yes, I can understand that.

But you can't have 2 separate parts of ONE gun each be considered separate guns and require FFL transfer.

If you bought one gun - would you have to pay for transfer of TWO?


Wait, I take that back....


The government can find a way - whether it makes sense or not :shaking:

Now you're gettin' it.

I thought this was a thread on AKs?

So thats what I was talking about, Ak compliance parts.

It was, and is. I asked a question about AR uppers though.