Well. I've done the SOA conversion to the 88" SIIa. Put SIII 109" axles underneath it, with the 109" shackles and springplates as well. Am now doing the cutting, welding, and fab to get the propshaft angles and swivel ball angles correct.

But I am looking at the height gained (haven't installed the parabolics yet, either); and am starting to wonder if I can get away with bigger than the 35x10.5x16 Boggers I purchased for it. I have a colleague who will but the Boggers for what I paid for them, minus the shipping charges. So I am thinking of getting a set of 38.5 (measure 38")x11x16 Boggers instead.

Will the Salsbury handle a set of 38"'s??? I am thinking it really wouldn't be a problem, especially with a set of GBR HD axleshafts installed and a Detroit locker.

Opinions?

XtremeMarine,
You've seen my SOA on FLRC and that is the exact tire that I plan on using. You should have no problem with the Sals as it is basicly a dana 60. One of the guys in the FLRC has a FC with Sals front and rear with ARB and runs 39's or something. I'm at the point now where I need to purchase the 38.5/11/16 boggers to test for fitment and see how much fender trimming I'll need. Let's see some pics of your build.

What are you doing about the front axle?

Cory;

The FC is owned by James Harden. Owner of British 4x4 in Jax. He's the shop that works on my DII and RRC. He is running 39.5 IROK's on it now. And Jake, his head mechanic, with the RRC on UNIMOG axles is running the 39.5 Boggers.

I have a full thread on the build on another site. But since I'm doing it my way, with some input from trusted sources; and not the way Everyone else does it, I haven't posted pics here. It's my project and my money, so I don't need the grief of others' opinions which are not asked for. I'll pm you the link.

My buddies' 64' SIIa 88" is running on FJ40 axles, t-case, and tranny, with a Chevy 454 for power. And he has 37"'s on 17" wheels under his. No lift or SOA, just FJ40 springs, and he extended the spring hangers. If you're going 38" as well, can't wait to see your thread keep growing at FLRC.

Transient;

I am planning on blowing it to hell. LMAO! It will be stock except for GBR HD axleshafts, and a truetrac. One reason I was planning on 35"'s originaly. But since most of the time it will be in mud, water, and sugar sand; I don't think it will get too much abuse. No rockcrawling, sideslopes, or serious off-roading down in Florida.

I am planning on blowing it to hell. LMAO! It will be stock except for GBR HD axleshafts, and a truetrac. One reason I was planning on 35"'s originaly. But since most of the time it will be in mud, water, and sugar sand; I don't think it will get too much abuse. No rockcrawling, sideslopes, or serious off-roading down in Florida.

38"s on a stock Rover axle? You won't need any abuse. Letting the clutch out will probably be enough abuse to blow it to hell.

Well, that does it for me. I respect Mercedes' opinion. So sticking with the 35"'s I already have in the shop. LOL! :D

XtremeMarine,
You've seen my SOA on FLRC and that is the exact tire that I plan on using. You should have no problem with the Sals as it is basicly a dana 60. One of the guys in the FLRC has a FC with Sals front and rear with ARB and runs 39's or something. I'm at the point now where I need to purchase the 38.5/11/16 boggers to test for fitment and see how much fender trimming I'll need. Let's see some pics of your build.

It's ring and pinion is a dana 60. The rest is spindly LR stuff. Unless your going to the expense of getting 35 spline axles in there, your basically just bolting a couple 50 pound dumbells under there.

Might I ask you the link as well please?

I have a SIIA sitting under the rain and will have to do something sooner or later, I'd like to see other people approaches.

Though I think starting a thread here letting everyone know the real thing is on "another site" doesn't really make sense...:confused:

But hey...I am interested...


I have a full thread on the build on another site. But since I'm doing it my way, with some input from trusted sources; and not the way Everyone else does it, I haven't posted pics here. It's my project and my money, so I don't need the grief of others' opinions which are not asked for. I'll pm you the link.

It's ring and pinion is a dana 60. The rest is spindly LR stuff. Unless your going to the expense of getting 35 spline axles in there, your basically just bolting a couple 50 pound dumbells under there.


The other option is a 30 spline locker for the Salisbury and some 30 spline axels from RoverTracks. Machine the spindles to suit and bolt the rest straight up.

That will handle 35" and IMHO 38.5" tires all day.

Still doesn't solve the front diff problem though.

The other option is a 30 spline locker for the Salisbury and some 30 spline axels from RoverTracks. Machine the spindles to suit and bolt the rest straight up.

That will handle 35" and IMHO 38.5" tires all day.

Still doesn't solve the front diff problem though.


Right then! You know what will :) Tell all..

Actually I can do 35 spline for the salisbury Series or Coiler, pretty simple and relatively low cost.

For the front the FJ80 diff and either mine (for coiler) or Jims V6 type(for leafer) will go forever on 40's in mud under a Rover drive line... (any Rover drive line)

It's ring and pinion is a dana 60. The rest is spindly LR stuff. Unless your going to the expense of getting 35 spline axles in there, your basically just bolting a couple 50 pound dumbells under there.

So what would you say is the upper limit on tire size for a stock Salisbury? I'm running a Salisbury rear with a detroit, and an open Salisbury front.

So what would you say is the upper limit on tire size for a stock Salisbury? I'm running a Salisbury rear with a detroit, and an open Salisbury front.


I know this is a Pandora's box but here goes: 33" with 4.7 gearing and a V8. 35" if you don't mind breaking occasionally.

--D

35's tops.. and that's if you ar nice to them.

The rear Sals uses 24 spline axles of decent quality but they are still only 1.24" in diameter.

The fronts use the AEU 2522 CV which is a decent unit but pretty hard (brittle) and full 24 spline axles of reasonable quality but again they're only 1.24" in diameter.

to make the front the best you can is to use 30 spline axles with Longfield 30 spline CV's. The rear is 35 spline all the way.

Unless of course they are 101 axles. Very strong but I'd wager the Long 30 spline cv is similar in strength as a 101 CV

Thanks for the replies. Don't mean to hijack the thread but at least we're still on topic, sort of.

I've currently got 34x10.50 superswampers and am going to 36s but I'm not real hard on the pedal. On the other hand i did just drop in a 4bt and sm420 so it's a lot more weight on the front as well as ton's more torque and power. The front I have is not a 101, it's a series III one ton unit. It's a bit funky, it's about 5" wider wms to wms, has the series 4.7:1 gearing, and runs CV joints instead of U-joints.

Just about anything you can do with stock rover stuff hits the limit around 35-36", almost regardless of how much $$$ you throw at them.

Cory, your starting to piss me off with all the mods to the series truck. 38/11.50 aint fair!!! Youre already making my series hybrid look like a baby truck and now you want 38 inch boggers...Your old girl was already kicking ass at the spring rally, now with the new axles, steering, and meats, Im gonna have to upgrade! LOL
Good luck with your build Xtreme, BTW didnt you start that LONG before I started building my hybrid. Quit posting and turn some wrenches! Later. Gordo

Yeah, Gordo. But it did go on hiatus during the whole DII tranny/LT230 nightmare. Be happy that truck is out of B4x4 and running. And the RRC is running as a nighttime go out and relax DD, now as well. Plus I just bought a SWB RRC chassis from Ed for a Coiler TomCat project. So do I finish this Leafer or finish the ToCat first? LMAO!!!

The GBR 24 spline rears in a salisbury should hold up fine for that range or tire size and saves the touble of converting to 30 or 35 spline.

Right then! You know what will :) Tell all..

Actually I can do 35 spline for the salisbury Series or Coiler, pretty simple and relatively low cost.

For the front the FJ80 diff and either mine (for coiler) or Jims V6 type(for leafer) will go forever on 40's in mud under a Rover drive line... (any Rover drive line)

Sounded to me like he was thinkin of keeping the same 3.54 or 4.7 ratios in the Salisbury, so that does make something of a problem for the rover front diff.

What I would do - and its actually what I did do - is order some of the finest axels, flanges and CVs from RoverTracks and wheel the shit out of my rig.

I used the 100series front high pinion 4.3:1 and matching 4.3:1 low pinion in the rear. I have been wheeling that with 35" Maxxis Creepy Crawlers with zero problems on RoverTracks axels front and rear.