OP says shot at 100yds with stock ammo and .22Mag rifle

It's not mine.

Serously... delete this or post it in ChitChat :shaking:

Serously... delete this or post it in ChitChat :shaking:

STFU or get out.

I'm taking it out of the original thread

1 dot has 2 holes?:homer:

1 dot has 2 holes?:homer:


yeah, I'm having trouble with the 'tear and fold' theory. Looks like to punches to me..

I'm thinking the OP's real name is Bob Lee Swagger. That bitch can make head shots standing in a boat from 200 yards.

I'm thinking the OP's real name is Bob Lee Swagger. That bitch can make head shots standing in a boat from 200 yards.

you say it like it's hard or something

yeah, I'm having trouble with the 'tear and fold' theory. Looks like to punches to me..

I don't have a dog in this fight - but at work we scan approx. 12k documents a month, many of them with tears or punches.

I have no problem believing that is a folded punch through - looks consistent with the claim IMHO.

I don't have a dog in this fight - but at work we scan approx. 12k documents a month, many of them with tears or punches.

I have no problem believing that is a folded punch through - looks consistent with the claim IMHO.

i have to agree with that. i dispute the distance at which it was shot.

I don't have a dog in this fight - but at work we scan approx. 12k documents a month, many of them with tears or punches.

I have no problem believing that is a folded punch through - looks consistent with the claim IMHO.

fair enough.

No backing or loose backing and a slower'ish bullet could tear the target like that as well. .22 mag is probably good for 1.5" groups - how big are those dots?

No backing or loose backing and a slower'ish bullet could tear the target like that as well. .22 mag is probably good for 1.5" groups - how big are those dots?

those dots are 1/2". that means he is shooting with less than 1/8" horizontal spread and less than 1/4" vertical. that is probably better than most top bench rest shooters could shoot with rifles built by the top builders in the country. edit: oh yeah, that would be with a bench rest set up and not prone/bi-pod/hand for rear support.

those dots are 1/2". that means he is shooting with less than 1/8" horizontal spread and less than 1/4" vertical. that is probably better than most top bench rest shooters could shoot with rifles built by the top builders in the country. edit: oh yeah, that would be with a bench rest set up and not prone/bi-pod/hand for rear support.

those are 1/2" dots? If that was a .22 making the holes it seems it might be slightly larger than 1/2":confused:

Those dots have to be at least an inch considering those are .22"'ish holes punched in them?

Fawk, my 1-4x scope has a 1moa center dot, aint a chance in hell I'm plugging half inch dots at 100 yds with that precision. I'm happy with a 1.25" 10 shot group at 50 yds, best I can do, figure that'll be 3-4" at 100. Never been that good with a rifle anyway.

Those dots have to be at least an inch considering those are .22"'ish holes punched in them?

there is some tear away that folds back so it may not be 1", but seems larger than 1/2" to me

:homer:

the holes close back on themselves like stated above. i just shot a piece of paper with a .22. mine wasn't taped to a cardboard backer but i from past results i do believe he actually shot it. different scanners will come up with different results but this is what i got.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/300sniper/testtarget2.jpg

the holes close back on themselves like stated above. i just shot a piece of paper with a .22. mine wasn't taped to a cardboard backer but i from past results i do believe he actually shot it. different scanners will come up with different results but this is what i got.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/300sniper/testtarget2.jpg

looks bigger than a 1/2" for sure then right? throw the calipars on the target you shot:D.. if your round is .30 it looks like more than 1/2" too

Alright... I'm going to go shoot some more tomorrow, if I get time I'm going to shoot another target, this time with a hard backer so it will "cut" a hole like 300 sniper's pics, instead of "punching" or what ever you want to call it a hole like the first target.

I'm also going to take some pics of the target with a ruler, so you can see the dots are 1/2", I'll also take some pics of the target from where I'm shooting it, so you can tell it's 100 yds.

Anything else that I could possibly take pics of or do to help validate the shoot?

Well, I think they obviously want to see your penis too :laughing:

Well, I think they obviously want to see your penis too :laughing:

The hole is that tiny :confused:

Anything else that I could possibly take pics of or do to help validate the shoot?

bring someone from here to witness.

I could care less if you shot that target at 100yards or 100 inches

But my take is that people are going to keep doubting you until you give them a video of you showing paper with no holes to camera, walking out and placing the target, walk back, shoot target, walk out and retrieve target, come back and show camera target.

And then people will say it was fancy editing! LOL

bring someone from here to witness.

I don't know anyone from here.

I don't know anyone from here.

send me your rifle and i will verify that it is capable of shooting that accurately. I know several people from here who will be my witness.:flipoff2:

Should I bother shooting that target this weekend or is it not even worth it?

Should I bother shooting that target this weekend or is it not even worth it?

Starting to think it's not even worth it :laughing:

Should I bother shooting that target this weekend or is it not even worth it?

Starting to think it's not even worth it :laughing:


definatly shoot a target, a paper plate or the target i posted. just don't shoot it at 25 yards and claim they were at 100:D

definatly shoot a target, a paper plate or the target i posted. just don't shoot it at 25 yards and claim they were at 100:D

Still planning on shooting the plate and posting that. Going to shoot at your target as well, probably just won't post pictures if it is any good.:laughing: Of course, it would pretty much be 100% luck to get a round touching every dot.

definatly shoot a target, a paper plate or the target i posted. just don't shoot it at 25 yards and claim they were at 100:D

I'll shoot the target at 100 yards but I'm shooting the plate at 15 feet with my XD. :flipoff2:

EDIT: I have a killer idea for my plate. It'll take 27 rounds, but it will be worth it. :smokin:

weak sauce....... i can do that at 700 yards with my daisy bb gun:flipoff2:
i am just to "busy" with real life to bother
but i am going to shoot a plate at 100 yrds with a pellet gun tomarrow
will i make all 5 shots touch? no but i am going to tryto hit the plate five times

I don't know anyone from here.

I'm too lazy to look up where Trenton GA is, but I'm heading to a range in Taylorsville, GA on Sunday if you would like to attempt this again.

EDIT: I have a killer idea for my plate. It'll take 27 rounds, but it will be worth it. :smokin:

Gonna try and hit it with the XD? :laughing: I thought about trying that as well with my .40 :laughing:

Starting to think it's not even worth it :laughing:


If you are refering to my cyber match, the point is not to post up a .25" 5-shot group. But to simply get people to go out an shoot. Thats why the prize isn't for best shot group, but rather a random drawing from all that enter.

If you go out there with your 10/22 and only end up with 3/5 on the plate I don't really care. I want people to get out and shoot.

A paper plate, 5rds, 100yrds. Give it a try.

It'll be a couple of weeks before I can do a plate/target. I won't be able to make it back to my farm 'til then

Sorry but I don't understand the pissing contest.

My 17HMR will do that if I lay off the coffee and the weather permits with my full range set up.

My 10/22 would probobly do that with the above criteria...yes its built.

My 22-250 would do that too.

I am a very good shot and used to shoot small bore compititions then handgun, and I have met thousands of others that have too.

Punching paper is fun but so are shooting 2-10" high ground squirrels. Those of us that shoot a lot know our rifles at varing ranges better then most comp shooters.

Sorry but I don't understand the pissing contest.


and I kill my deer by shooting them in the eye with a .22 all the time

If you are refering to my cyber match, the point is not to post up a .25" 5-shot group. But to simply get people to go out an shoot. Thats why the prize isn't for best shot group, but rather a random drawing from all that enter.

If you go out there with your 10/22 and only end up with 3/5 on the plate I don't really care. I want people to get out and shoot.

A paper plate, 5rds, 100yrds. Give it a try.

Sorry, was not referring to the cyber match. I will go setup a plate out back on Saturday and post that even if I only hit the edge once. Your idea sounds very fun. I was refering to 300snipers target. If I miss a few I will post it. If i hit them all, ain't now way in hell I would post it unless P_D, cybergeek, Gil, AND Bev were all there to witness it :laughing:

Sorry but I don't understand the pissing contest.

My 17HMR will do that if I lay off the coffee and the weather permits with my full range set up.

My 10/22 would probobly do that with the above criteria...yes its built.

My 22-250 would do that too.

I am a very good shot and used to shoot small bore compititions then handgun, and I have met thousands of others that have too.

Punching paper is fun but so are shooting 2-10" high ground squirrels. Those of us that shoot a lot know our rifles at varing ranges better then most comp shooters.



your close enough that i'd like to come out that way and see a perfect 15 out of 15 on a 1/2" dot at 100 yards. i mean not even breaking the outer edge of the dot. oh yeah, off a bipod only using your off hand as rear support. also with a scope that has a reticle that covers the dot.

but seriously, if you have some good long range spots out in the desert (1k-1200 yards or more), i'd come out there just to go shooting.

either way, lay off the coffee and post up a target:D

Doesn't matter if he does it again or not, just like the hide... even if you, your grandma, the guy claiming you couldn't shoot like that, his grandma, and the president of the united states was out there, they still wouldn't believe you. Because they haven't done it means it's impossible to them. Or because your not an international rock star shooter means you definitely can't do it.


Honestly. what does it matter if the guy did it at 50 or 100 yards. The simple fact he went out and shot the damn target should have meant something. it's more then the people griping about him doing so have done themselves...... stop complaining and go shoot. or hope that one day your as good as he is.

I remember the time I went to a website as a noob and posted my savage build, then that i shot a gong at 800 yards w/ it and 9/10 shots went sub 1 MOA. But it wasn't possible a $700 rifle with a $70 scope could perform like that.... Mind you I claimed it was luck and never said I could shoot like that all day, or even do the same feat twice.

so take it with a grain of salt, people are going to call you on anything that they can't do themselves. Do I think you shot that target at 100 yards? Who cares, you actually went out and shot your rifle.... That was the whole point of the competition.

hello andy

I could care less if you shot that target at 100yards or 100 inches

But my take is that people are going to keep doubting you until you give them a video of you showing paper with no holes to camera, walking out and placing the target, walk back, shoot target, walk out and retrieve target, come back and show camera target.

And then people will say it was fancy editing! LOL

Proper way is to put video camera on a tripod near target, shoot all shots, then post video on youtube.

Proper way is to put video camera on a tripod near target, shoot all shots, then post video on youtube.

I don't have a video camera, plus a 35 minute non stop video on youtube? I hope you don't have dial-up like I do.

Anyway, went out and shot again today,

100 yds
http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s333/dustin259/DCFC0009.jpg

.22 LR to show the size of the dot.
http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s333/dustin259/DCFC0006.jpg

and the target
http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s333/dustin259/target100yd.jpg

I hope the bullet holes suit you better this time.

For those of you asking if it's worth it to shoot the target, if you do shoot it and it comes out good, make sure before you post it to join "sniper's hide" and get a good name on there, then you can post it over there and they will all believe it

I actually checked it out last night, found the "practical tactical" post or some shit over there with this target, 300 sniper posted my target no one believed it, then a member "super bee 950" posted it with a bullet touching each the dot, they immediately started E-sucking his dick.

It would seem that as long as you're a "sniper" that is on "sniper's hide" they will believe it, but if your not and you shoot it half way decent, it would probably be better to not post it.

UNPOSSIBLE!!!! :laughing::laughing::flipoff2:

Doesn't matter if he does it again or not, just like the hide... even if you, your grandma, the guy claiming you couldn't shoot like that, his grandma, and the president of the united states was out there, they still wouldn't believe you. Because they haven't done it means it's impossible to them. Or because your not an international rock star shooter means you definitely can't do it.


Honestly. what does it matter if the guy did it at 50 or 100 yards. The simple fact he went out and shot the damn target should have meant something. it's more then the people griping about him doing so have done themselves...... stop complaining and go shoot. or hope that one day your as good as he is.

I remember the time I went to a website as a noob and posted my savage build, then that i shot a gong at 800 yards w/ it and 9/10 shots went sub 1 MOA. But it wasn't possible a $700 rifle with a $70 scope could perform like that.... Mind you I claimed it was luck and never said I could shoot like that all day, or even do the same feat twice.

so take it with a grain of salt, people are going to call you on anything that they can't do themselves. Do I think you shot that target at 100 yards? Who cares, you actually went out and shot your rifle.... That was the whole point of the competition.

I couldn't agree more!!!

I take it you've been to "sniper's hide" before.

I'm too lazy to look up where Trenton GA is, but I'm heading to a range in Taylorsville, GA on Sunday if you would like to attempt this again.

I went to that range when I visited my dad and brother. Pretty cool people there. my bro lives in Cedartown. Close to you?

http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo68/catfish_hunterphotos/Threadheatsmyballs-1.jpg

I don't have a video camera, plus a 35 minute non stop video on youtube? I hope you don't have dial-up like I do.

Anyway, went out and shot again today,

100 yds
http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s333/dustin259/DCFC0009.jpg

.22 LR to show the size of the dot.
http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s333/dustin259/DCFC0006.jpg

and the target
http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s333/dustin259/target100yd.jpg

I hope the bullet holes suit you better this time.


i still think you're full of shit but i am over it. it is your story. you tell it as you please.

i still think you're full of shit but i am over it. it is your story. you tell it as you please.

So what do you require? I don't have a video camera either.

So what do you require? I don't have a video camera either.

even if you, your grandma, the guy claiming you couldn't shoot like that, his grandma, and the president of the united states was out there, they still wouldn't believe you.

thats what is required... even then I'm sure there is still some doubt.


I'm suprised they started sucking his balls and didn't condemn him for life on the hide.... unless they were personally there they won't believe it.

No offense towards you 300, I've been to the hide for a while now and I have a friend who's been on the hide for years.... Been there done that. Unless you have a multi $K stick, or an m40 build. nobody wants anything to do with you....

I'm suprised they started sucking his balls and didn't condemn him for life on the hide.... unless they were personally there they won't believe it.

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=724840&page=3

There's the post, the best I can tell no one saw him do it either.

So what do you require? I don't have a video camera either.

i don't require anything from you guys. you didn't come here claiming 800 yard head shots like happened in the thread that started this whole thing. i am having a REAL hard time believing a factory 77/22 is shooting .2 inch groups at 100 yards for 15 rounds with a scope reticle that covers the dot.

go ahead and shoot your targets at 100 yards and post the results if you want.

Dude, you not only called him out here - you posted his target over there on some other site so you can e-bitch about it behind his back?

That's pretty... childish :shaking:

i am having a REAL hard time believing a factory 77/22 is shooting .2 inch groups at 100 yards for 15 rounds with a scope reticle that covers the dot.


X2 ..... you must have some very nice hand loads and a lot of trigger time because you are one of the best in the world if this is true. You should rely compete :smokin:

EDIT: just looked at the pic with the 22 round on it again... that's simply amazing! You are hitting something the size of a pair of empty 22 cases standing next to each other at 100 yards consistantly every time! I'm definatly impressed. I bet you would clip a single 22 round standing on end atleast 50% of the time!

i don't require anything from you guys. you didn't come here claiming 800 yard head shots like happened in the thread that started this whole thing. i am having a REAL hard time believing a factory 77/22 is shooting .2 inch groups at 100 yards for 15 rounds with a scope reticle that covers the dot.

go ahead and shoot your targets at 100 yards and post the results if you want.

http://www.guncustomizing.com/images/4shotgroup77vmbz.jpg

Take a look at that target, notice that the gun is a K77/22 with a varmint barrel, it's .265 at 75 yds., not quite 100 yds. it's 4 shots.

Do you belive that target?

My guess is no, you don't.

I DID NOT SHOOT THAT TARGET!!!!!

Do you believe it now?

If it was on "sniper's hide" I think you would, but anywhere else I don't think you would believe it.

http://forum.gon.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16670&stc=1&d=1131483670

Or how about this one?

This is what the shooter said: "Here are a couple of pics of the last 80 yd. group I shot before heading out onto the gasline. 1/2" is not bad for a new, unbroken in, untuned $160 22 mag sporter with a 20 + year old 2.5x Bushnell scope that I got off Ebay.

This is with the Remington 33gr Vmax ammo."

http://www.guncustomizing.com/images/4shotgroup77vmbz.jpg

Take a look at that target, notice that the gun is a K77/22 with a varmint barrel, it's .265 at 75 yds., not quite 100 yds. it's 4 shots.

Do you belive that target?

My guess is no, you don't.

I DID NOT SHOOT THAT TARGET!!!!!

Do you believe it now?

If it was on "sniper's hide" I think you would, but anywhere else I don't think you would believe it



4 rounds at 75 yards is a whole lot different than 15 at 100.

dustin, if you are as good as you claim to be... we should definately shoot some time!

I competed in national ROTC Rifle team. I was captain of the team for my last year. I never once shot a 300.... but i have been close. I have my letter and medals, ribbons and chord to show :), and im damn proud.
It was one of the main reasons i joined ROTC in the first place.

Maybe one day we can go out and hit the range.

Hey 300, i would just drop it bro... really. Nothing is going to get taken care of by arguing over it on the internet. I understand your skepticism, but hey... there are really proficient shooters out there.

I went to that range when I visited my dad and brother. Pretty cool people there. my bro lives in Cedartown. Close to you?

The range is literally 4 miles at most from my house, when I'm not at school. Cedartown is maybe 20 minutes away, and definitely a nice area. Next time you're in the area shoot me a PM and if I'm back home we'll hit the range up. I'm always up for punching some holes in paper.:smokin:

Hey 300, i would just drop it bro... really. Nothing is going to get taken care of by arguing over it on the internet. I understand your skepticism, but hey... there are really proficient shooters out there.

you're right. i'm over it. good shooting dustin.

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/23790IMGP2075.JPG

I didn't shoot this target, just trying to show other people can do it too.

I didn't look through to many, but here is the best 10 shot group I found, it was at 50 yds. however, the thing is all these targets I've posted, including mine, have been shot by plain everyday people, not "snipers" or members of "sniper's hide", or competitors.

BTW: See that white thing between the 2 targets? That's a thumbtack.

it is alot easier to hold a tight group on a target.. once you fire the first shot you hold on it for me.. But moving to each and every target and punching it is way harder.. still not saying you did not do it.. but for me holding a really tight group is more the rifle and ammo

I hate to get involved and I'm not saying you didn't shoot the target but these pictures you're posting for your defense are rediculous. There's a big difference between shooting from a bench rest and putting 10 or more rounds into the same circle versus hitting 16 different circles that are smaller than the scope crosshairs. And there is also a pretty significant difference between 50 and 75 yards verses 100 yards. especially with store bought .22 ammo

Dude, you not only called him out here - you posted his target over there on some other site so you can e-bitch about it behind his back?

That's pretty... childish :shaking:

and you're an e-dickhead. Of all the things pirate does is call out the BS

It's obvious many, including the offender, don't realize what all it would take to shoot .125 MOA consistently in a 15 shot run. If one doesn't call out the BS, knowing it's wrong, what is that? Being a little bitch like you?

and you're an e-dickhead. Of all the things pirate does is call out the BS

It's obvious many, including the offender, don't realize what all it would take to shoot .125 MOA consistently in a 15 shot run. If one doesn't call out the BS, knowing it's wrong, what is that? Being a little bitch like you?

So do you enjoy wearing tights and a cape in your job as defender of the e-truth? :shaking:

It's one thing to call him out here - but to post it elsewhere is just plain chickenshit - period.

Oh, wait... maybe you're one of the morons who thinks the only good shooters out there are on the internet posting to super-tacticool websites and bragging about their badass thir or their super expensive that.

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/23790IMGP2075.JPG

I didn't shoot this target, just trying to show other people can do it too.

I didn't look through to many, but here is the best 10 shot group I found, it was at 50 yds. however, the thing is all these targets I've posted, including mine, have been shot by plain everyday people, not "snipers" or members of "sniper's hide", or competitors.

BTW: See that white thing between the 2 targets? That's a thumbtack.
And here is some more of his targets from a Suhl 150 22lr, 26" Benchmark, barrel 16.5" twist, Factory 2oz trigger, McMillan Edge stock, Hoehn tuner, Weaver T36, Pappas one piece rest with the same grouping as yours but shot at 50yards which would put him at shooting .25 MOA CTC at 100
http://www.hunt101.com/data/546/medium/23790IMGP2216.JPG
http://www.hunt101.com/data/546/medium/IMGP4215.JPG
http://www.hunt101.com/data/546/medium/23790IMGP2215.JPG

The best group I have ever shot was slightly less than 3/4" at 200 yds, 5 shot, 243 Win KMV77, shooting off a sandbag and bi-pod. I was shooting 60 gr Sierra HP and 4895 powder. The sun was down behind the mountain and the wind was still. I laid the range out with a Topcon CTS survey instrument, so the range might vary 0.05' :flipoff2: :laughing:

The first shot was a "flyer", as always because at the time I cleaned my barrel after each 5 shots. The other 4 shots touched.

I was in my early 20's and shooting several times a week. I have shot many groups, and made many shots that people said were impossible. Quite often I have shot things I couldn't see (example dimes, thumb tacks, etc.) at 75-100 yards. I just shot where I knew they were by referencing things I could see.
Yes, I have shot deer in the eye on more than one occasion, but quit head shooting them after blowing ones lower jaw off and having to track it (someone else ended up shooting it).

I cannot shoot that well anymore. My eyes and muscle memory aren't as good as they were 15-20 years ago. Also, I have no desire to refine my skills to that level again. I have moved on through different phases, such as shotgunning, practical pistol, cowboy action, and black powder shooting. I can still shoot, this year alone I have shot a squirrel in the foot several times when that is about all I could see using a 32 cal. muzzleloader.

I have good days and bad. There are days I couldn't hit a barn, and the other day I can't miss. Coffee and lack of rest are a huge factor.

So do you enjoy wearing tights and a cape in your job as defender of the e-truth? :shaking:

It's one thing to call him out here - but to post it elsewhere is just plain chickenshit - period.

Oh, wait... maybe you're one of the morons who thinks the only good shooters out there are on the internet posting to super-tacticool websites and bragging about their badass thir or their super expensive that.
The few shooters I know don't compete on websites.

No, I believe in reality. I don't care about e-games. Whether it was posted on someone else's website is of no concern.

I'll quote you and post it on another website so I can make a joke if I like... doesn't make me chickenshit and doesn't mean anything except that there's exception.

It's no different that outing the e-vets, the e-wheelers or anything else. Posting it elsewhere simply shows the contempt one has for lying. Why would it matter to you or the OP if it's posted elsewhere?

I'll quote you and post it on another website so I can make a joke if I like... doesn't make me chickenshit

Yeah, it does.

But hey - you just keep thinking you're championing a noble cause :shaking:

Yeah, it does.

But hey - you just keep thinking you're championing a noble cause :shaking:

Ok, to you it makes me a chickenshit. That matters how?

I'm not championing anything. When one can't make fun and point out the e-badass on Pirate... it's a sad day.

Hey, but just sit there and believe. Maybe the easter bunny will show up and post some colored eggs for ya

Ok, to you it makes me a chickenshit. That matters how?

About as much as you calling out the guy shooting the target - but you still don't get it, do you? :laughing:

About as much as you calling out the guy shooting the target - but you still don't get it, do you? :laughing:

I don't get it.... because I've had my inoculations.

and I kill my deer by shooting them in the eye with a .22 all the time

:laughing::laughing:

300 Bring it! I'm always up for shooting...Adult responability has dropped my shooting down to 1-2 times a month and my press is getting dusty :shaking:

I'm "suposed" to be pickup in a 1/2 truckload of pumpkins today so I'll shoot your target this weekend. It may take me 1-2 target to look that sweet but its doable.

BTW i am notorious for telling people I will post pics and forgetting my camera or just too damn lazy to post the pics :flipoff2: but I will try.

It's obvious many, including the offender, don't realize what all it would take to shoot .125 MOA consistently in a 15 shot run.

I don't know if you noticed or not, but that is nowhere near a .125 group, look at dot #2 it's on the far right side of the dot, now look at dot #9 it's on the far left side of the dot, now if those two dots are put on top of each other they measure .512 from outside to outside of the bullet holes.

You're making the target into something it's not.

BTW: How the fuck can you shoot a .125 group, when the bullet is .223? (.22 mag. bullets mic .223)

average center-to-center distance divided by 1.047

look at dot #2 it's on the far right side of the dot, now look at dot #9 it's on the far left side of the dot, now if those two dots are put on top of each other they measure .512 from outside to outside of the bullet holes.


using just your numbers and your suggested 2 shot farthest grouping and a common method for inch groupings. 0.512 - 0.223 = 0.289 inch group divide that by 1.047 equals a 0.27 MOA. That's using what you stated as the biggest difference between 2 of your hits.

All of the hits made some contact in the right hemisphere, 11 of the shots were in the lower right quadrant. 1/4 of 1/2 is 1/8 or 0.125. a 0.125 MOA times 1.053 equals a 0.131. Maybe the average CTC of the 15 shots is 0.180 and not 0.131, it's still way better than most accurized, purpose built rifles shooting select ammo.

Even if that was shot at 25 yards, it would still make it a very good group and accurate at around a 0.50 MOA

The range is literally 4 miles at most from my house, when I'm not at school. Cedartown is maybe 20 minutes away, and definitely a nice area. Next time you're in the area shoot me a PM and if I'm back home we'll hit the range up. I'm always up for punching some holes in paper.:smokin:


Sweet! He's coming out to AZ for christmas. I'm building him an M4gery. THanks to Pete at shadow river! Anyway, I'll have him hit you up when he gets back to break the bitch in! He's a former marine itchin for trigger time.:laughing:

bring someone from here to witness.

I'm too lazy to look up where Trenton GA is, but I'm heading to a range in Taylorsville, GA on Sunday if you would like to attempt this again.

It sounds like some other guys are a lot closer, I'd be game for verifying this if I weren't 200 miles/3 hours away.

Where is the original thread? What's all the talk of pie plate competition I've missed?

It sounds like some other guys are a lot closer, I'd be game for verifying this if I weren't 200 miles/3 hours away.

Where is the original thread? What's all the talk of pie plate competition I've missed?

sorry, I should have linked to it while trying to get the junk out of that thread

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=733815

Thanks, found it right after I posted... guess it's time to break out the noisemakers and punch out a few holes...

using just your numbers and your suggested 2 shot farthest grouping and a common method for inch groupings. 0.512 - 0.223 = 0.289 inch group divide that by 1.047 equals a 0.27 MOA. That's using what you stated as the biggest difference between 2 of your hits.

All of the hits made some contact in the right hemisphere, 11 of the shots were in the lower right quadrant. 1/4 of 1/2 is 1/8 or 0.125. a 0.125 MOA times 1.053 equals a 0.131. Maybe the average CTC of the 15 shots is 0.180 and not 0.131, it's still way better than most accurized, purpose built rifles shooting select ammo.

Even if that was shot at 25 yards, it would still make it a very good group and accurate at around a 0.50 MOA

OK, this is ridiculous, since you have somewhat of a grasp of firearms and how they work, I would assume you have a gun? If you do have a gun shoot the target at 100 yds and post it up.

It's obvious many, including the offender, don't realize what all it would take to shoot .125 MOA consistently in a 15 shot run.

Well since all of us have no idea what it takes, and being as the only way you can truthfully say that, is you do know what it takes and you can make the shot.

So, either post up a target you've shot, or STFU.

Dude, you not only called him out here - you posted his target over there on some other site so you can e-bitch about it behind his back?

That's pretty... childish :shaking:

Did you read the post? It's about as far from a chickenshit post as there is. Join a couple gun bb's, meet some gun people in real life from them. You'll realize quickly that there can be more bs spewed on a firearm related bulletin board daily that the typical honda forum. It becomes hard to take anyone serious. I mean, how many fawkin "former seal team operatives" or "veterans" do we get here monthly? I'm not going to call the guy out, but I do take everything with a grain of salt. And I agree that if he did that with commercial .22 ammo through a stock .22 and cheapo optic off a bipod...then it's nothing short of awesome.

hey dustin s, how about you shoot 3 shot groups at each dot, then post up.

OK, this is ridiculous, since you have somewhat of a grasp of firearms and how they work, I would assume you have a gun? If you do have a gun shoot the target at 100 yds and post it up.



Well since all of us have no idea what it takes, and being as the only way you can truthfully say that, is you do know what it takes and you can make the shot.

So, either post up a target you've shot, or STFU.

It'll be a couple of weeks before I can do a plate/target. I won't be able to make it back to my farm 'til then

I've never boasted that I could make the shot nor have I stated it's easy. In fact, I believe the only reference I made to my ability was to state, in jest, that I shoot all of my deer through the eye with a .22.

The concept that appears foreign to you is that a part of accuracy is dependent upon the rifle and ammunition and no amount of ability of the shooter can make up for that part.

I can claim that a thoracic surgeon sucks based on his theory of using a shovel to open a chest, without being a thoracic surgeon myself.

hey dustin s, how about you shoot 3 shot groups at each dot, then post up.

Why would it matter? If he faked that one, whats to stop him from faking another one?

I agree with Dustin though - awful lot of people whining and not posting up targets of their own.

If i can find some place to shoot 100 yards this weekend, I'll give it a go (not likely in deer season, but I will try).

hey dustin s, how about you shoot 3 shot groups at each dot, then post up.

I can't, it takes around an hour or a little over to shoot the 15 dots (Yea, I'm that slow.), I don't think I could stand to adjust and reposition for 45 shots (probably around 3 hrs.), if you just want to see me miss, sure I can shoot each dot 3 times but those last few dots are going to have flyers.

The concept that appears foreign to you is that a part of accuracy is dependent upon the rifle and ammunition and no amount of ability of the shooter can make up for that part.

Yes I do realize that part of the accuracy is achieved by the rifle, what you don't understand is that it doesn't take a $2,000 rifle to achieve results like that.

I'm still waiting on someone, ANYONE to post this target, were they've shot it.

I know of 2 people that are going to shoot it, so I'm just waiting on them, no rush, hopefully they do as good as I did, but as for the rest of you, wheres your target?

Edit: 3 people shooting the target, I didn't catch DRM's post.

I would'nt take either side without seeing it first hand, however, I absolutely believe its possible. As kids my brother and I wound up with some POS chinese bolt action .22 with a cheap ass scope, looked to be based off the marlin 25. We thought it was just foreign junk until we shot it. That little .22 would shoot damn near the same hole everytime. There was 100yd range on the property where we would constantly poke pencils into the backstop and cut them in half. We didn't make every shot, but it was rare to miss.
We were shooting Wal-Mart's Thunderbolt .22s for ammo.

That was probably the only rifle produced in that factory/country that would ever do that, but I have to believe that it is possible the shooter above has a similar rifle.

Heck those dots are no bigger than a womp rat head, and I bullseyed those with my T16 back home:trooper::flipoff2:

Sweet! He's coming out to AZ for christmas. I'm building him an M4gery. THanks to Pete at shadow river! Anyway, I'll have him hit you up when he gets back to break the bitch in! He's a former marine itchin for trigger time.:laughing:

That's the reason I'm going this Sunday, I picked up a DPMS AR several weeks ago and haven't got to shoot it yet.:rolleyes: If you want me to I'll PM you my number, that way if he wants to shoot anytime I'm in town he can give me a call.

Proper way is to put video camera on a tripod near target, shoot all shots, then post video on youtube.

I don't have a video camera, plus a 35 minute non stop video on youtube? I hope you don't have dial-up like I do.


I can't, it takes around an hour or a little over to shoot the 15 dots (Yea, I'm that slow.), I don't think I could stand to adjust and reposition for 45 shots (probably around 3 hrs.), if you just want to see me miss, sure I can shoot each dot 3 times but those last few dots are going to have flyers.


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First target did take 35 min., no wind, perfect conditions, second took an hour, give or take a little, was a little windy that day, had to wait longer on the shot.

you're right. i'm over it. good shooting dustin.

I thought you were over it?

BTW: You were the one who first brought up the target and suggested I shoot it, why did you ever start this whole thing if you weren't going to believe it anyway?

I'd like to see you give it a go in a standing position. I'd like to watch you shoot, just to see it... I'm not gonna doubt you, I've seen my dad shoot some things that most people couldn't- rabbits running at full speed with a .22 SA revolver, a snake in the head swimming across the pond with a .22 rifle and open sites(seen that many times), etc.

BTW: You were the one who first brought up the target and suggested I shoot it, why did you ever start this whole thing if you weren't going to believe it anyway?

No joke. I'm sure his and paragon's little whine-fest about this whole ordeal really motivates others to post up their results.

Hell - if I hit all the dots I'd probably shoot a second target to post and intentionally miss, just so I can not be "too good" for the critics :shaking:

No joke. I'm sure his and paragon's little whine-fest about this whole ordeal really motivates others to post up their results.

Hell - if I hit all the dots I'd probably shoot a second target to post and intentionally miss, just so I can not be "too good" for the critics :shaking:


maybe it will motivate people to be honest about what they post.:p

maybe it will motivate people to be honest about what they post.:p

You didn't answer my question.:shaking:

No joke. I'm sure his and paragon's little whine-fest about this whole ordeal really motivates others to post up their results.

Their whine fest isn't holding me back, I just suck at the accurate shooting at 100 yds.:flipoff2:

Here's about the best I got. $570 Mforgery, $200 millet 4x scope, cheap russian ammo, resting the bayo lug on a plastic bar.

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk58/kwrangln/target3.jpg?t=1227469074


MOA? Fawk that, minute of man or minute of zombie will do.:laughing: