Attention!!!
Our Pro3 benders are now made with 1/2" thick plate steel and the new starting price is $499
Please visit our new website for details: http://www.probender.com (http://www.probender.com)


We are new here at Pirate4x4.com and looking to earn your business. We have been recommended and urged by Bend Tech and the 12voltguy.com to become a vendor on pirate4x4!! They feel that we have created a product that fulfills a niche in this market. Before checking out the video here are some points on why we feel our product stands out form other benders on the market:

1) Does a 90 degree bend without pulling a pin. (on most dies) This bender will do 180 degree bends with dies that are made to do 180 degree bends only.
2) Hydraulic ram
3) Can work with or without air compressor
4) Vertical bends taking up less room in the shop
5) Accurate with in 1/2 a degree
6) Smaller foot print then a moving dolly
7) Movable if so desired (no need to bolt it to your floor)
8) Retractable arms
9) Accepts both JD2 or PRO TOOL dies
10) Automatic stop (coming soon!!)

http://www.probender.com/prodimages/bender_yellow_200_300.gif

Watch our bender in action!! Just click on the link!!

‪Pro 4 Tube Bender From ProBender.Com‬‏ - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqGiqCCZQR8)


New 4,000 PSI Electric/Hydraulic Pump & Ram Package for the ProBender Benders

Now for only $999.95 extra you can order your Pro3 or Pro4 with the 4,000 PSI Electric/Hydraulic Pump & Ram Package. So for the guys that don't want to run the bender with air you can just plug it into the 110v wall socket.:D With this addition we know that you cannot find a better bender on the market for the money. Period.

http://www.probender.com/Power-Unit--Package.jpg

To add the 4,000 PSI Electric/Hydraulic Pump & Ram Package your bender order? Just check it as an option that you want for your new bender.

You guys have asked for it and here it is...

We are now selling the Pro32 that can bend 2" x .250 wall DOM tubing. For a limited time I am going to sell it for $679 and I will be starting a new tread in order to have a drawing to win one a New Pro32.

http://www.probender.com/pro32logo_450.jpg
http://www.probender.com/Pro32_Bender_Discription_450.jpg

‪BENDING 2" X .250 WALL DOM ON THE PRO32 BY PROBENDER.COM‬‏ - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StkQXyGXHa8)

have any independent results?

We have had really good success with the ones that we have sold. It was based off similar designs that I have seen about 5 years ago. I built it for my shop and have been using the current design (3/8" Pro3) for about 4 years every day building buggies. I have a offer out to 12voltguy to test it and give a independent review here on pirate4x4. He is waiting to get more space and will let me know. But if you talk to Dean over at Pro Tool he has talked to customers of mine and had only good things to say about the bender. I asked Dean if it was OK to post his number if members had any questions. Dean (Pro Tool) (813-766-2486)

I am in the market for a bender that won't break the bank for as little as I need to use it.I will definitly keep this in mind when I'm ready to buy one.
Looking forward to reveiws. SUBSCRIBED...:D

We have had really good success with the ones that we have sold. It was based off similar designs that I have seen about 5 years ago. I built it for my shop and have been using the current design (3/8" Pro3) for about 4 years every day building buggies. I have a offer out to 12voltguy to test it and give a independent review here on pirate4x4. He is waiting to get more space and will let me know. But if you talk to Dean over at Pro Tool he has talked to customers of mine and had only good things to say about the bender. I asked Dean if it was OK to post his number if members had any questions. Dean (Pro Tool) (813-766-2486)welcome to the site!
I'll be picking one up in the spring
if not sooner:)depends on when I get extra $$ for tools.:homer:

Price on the PRO 4 JD2 shipped to 27284?

I have been getting PM about what is the difference between the Pro3 and the Pro4... Just wanted to post the difference.

The Pro3 version of the bender is made with 3/8" plate steel.

The Pro4 (BRUTE) version of the bender is made with 5/8" plate steel.

All the other aspects of the bender are the same.

you should update your 1st post showing this is not just a 90* bender
many vert types will only do a 90* bend
I know you can do at least 180*, same as any other JD3 pro tools

seriously?!?!?

YESTERDAY, I dropped over a grand on a JD2 manual bender and accessories!!!! i love your simple design and effective results...

good luck with your sales, it looks like you have a great product there

you should update your 1st post showing this is not just a 90* bender
many vert types will only do a 90* bend
I know you can do at least 180*, same as any other JD3 pro tools

I changed it in the ad. Thanks for the heads up....

seriously?!?!?

YESTERDAY, I dropped over a grand on a JD2 manual bender and accessories!!!! i love your simple design and effective results...

good luck with your sales, it looks like you have a great product there

Hope all goes well. We have the JD2 version if you ever feel the need to go to a vertical design or upgrade to a hydraulic setup.

I've currently got a JD2 manual and would love to upgrade but don't quite want to spend 799 plus the ride. I'd be happy to do a write up, take a lot of pictures, and post the info on all the 4x4 sites I visit for a discount.:D:laughing:

What are the specs on the max tubing diameteer is expected for the Pro3? I'll be in the market for a bender sometime this spring and this looks like it is worth every penny.

The Pro3 was designed with the pocket book in mind and to do 1/2"-2" .120 wall.

Please Note: All dies have a wall thickness rating. Please see the link below for the ratings.

http://www.probender.com/Die_Sets.htm

But if you are looking to do pipe or over 1 1/2" thick or chromemoly/DOM you should go into the Pro4. That is why we built the Pro4 "Brute". It is better suited for the job.

Pro3 bender w/out base, and a 1 3/4 die set shipped to 89012?

Pro3 bender w/out base, and a 1 3/4 die set shipped to 89012?

Pro3 $499.95
Shipping $55
1 3/4" 6CLR 240R $263.50
Die Shipping $45

Total $ 863.45

How much air PSI and CFM does it take to run? All you have to do is open the ball valve for the cylinder to start bending?

Thanks, Mike

The ram does not have specs on the minimum CFM and PSI, but most 120 PSI air compressors will do the job. And yes all you have to do is open the ball valve for it to start bending.

Would this be something to make a roll cage with....?

Any tube up to 2" .120wall

Would this be something to make a roll cage with....?
yes
uses same dies as jd or pro-tools you choose
but it's verticle:grinpimp:

Pro3 $499.95
Shipping $55
1 3/4" 6CLR 240R $263.50
Die Shipping $45

Total $ 863.45

:eek:Time to score some flat-rate boxes and ship those for $10 instead of $45.

:eek:Time to score some flat-rate boxes and ship those for $10 instead of $45.
The dies are shipped from Pro Tool. They do a great job in packaging them. So you are paying for packaging and the labor for someone to put it in the box along with the shipping price. So $45 is a bargain for a 40# die set if you ask me.

Note:
Flat rate of $35 for CLR under 4 1/2"
Flat rate of $45 for CLR over 5"

My Wife said I could throw down for a Bender this Christmas. I am not sure which bender I want, but she gave me the go-ahead for one in your price range. I would be wiling to buy a Pro-3 if you would throw in a Notcher. If you can do this - PM me and we will begin the order process. I would go with the Pro/JD2 with base.

I would love to be able to throw in a notcher but the margin's are not there. We keep our margins low in order to offer the best possible product at the best possible price.

Here is the deal that I am running if you are a forum member.
***Mention you saw our ad on Pirate4x4 and receive 15% off any Pro Tool die sets and also receive a FREE digital angle finder at time of purchase. This applies to only the Pro 3 and the Pro 4 BRUTE benders***

Let me know if you are still intrested in the Pro3-JD2

pro4 brute without stand shipped to 92065 what is the price difference with and without adding a 1.5" die 4.5" radius 240 degree.

Pro4 $699.95 + s/h $55 = $754.95


Pro4 $699.95 + s/h $55 + 1.5" Die $204 + Die s/h $35 = $993.95

I was wondering if there was anyone with an independant review of this bender?

I know we have sold some units to guys on this site. We are just waiting for them to post here.

Looking for one to do some roll cages, I'll PM you later on today.

Sounds Great!! Let me know how I can help....

Can you use both JD dies and pro-tools dies, or just one or the other?

Price on the pro-4 w/o base and (JD)1 3/4 die 180*.

-Troy

Can you use both JD dies and pro-tools dies, or just one or the other?

Price on the pro-4 w/o base and (JD)1 3/4 die 180*.

-Troy

You can only JD2 die in the JD2 Version (Pro4-JD2) Also we do not offer JD2 dies sets. You will have to contact them for the die. The Pro4-JD2 Bender w/ Base will run you $754.95.

**Note** The "Free" Digital angle finder only applies to the Pro4 and Pro4 (Pro Tool Version) "Not the JD2 Version"

Any reason, benefit to choosing the JD2 version over the PT version, or vice versa?

I like the guys over at Pro Tool better (they seem nicer to me) and they have a better price on thier die sets.

It took about 2 hrs. to build base and assemble the bender. WOW,I just bent a 180 in about 3 minutes and only moved the pin 1 time. Beautiful bend

Thanks for the review. I am sure that it others will appreciate it when deciding to purchase a bender.

Wanting some reviews just like everyone else.. I like this thing, but i don't like how it turns on/off, and that there's no degree wheel on it to know what angle ur at. Got a fix for that?

So the only difference between the pro3 and pro4 is the bender material thickness? Will they both only bend up to .120 ID? Or will the pro4 do a bit thicker?

Having built a full hydro bender before using a JD2 setup plus parts from northerntool, this setup is slick and much cheaper. I did electric over hydraulic so it was self contained but it cost twice as much as this.

Not sure what the need for reviews is. the benefits of the design prove themselves in the video. since the cad drawings for the stock bender "arms" are widely available and the dies come from Pro Tools or JD2 there really isn't anything to go wrong with this setup. worse case is that he supplies a cheap air over hydraulic ram so perhaps posting a brand name and warranty for that would help people?

Looks like an awesome design to me. As far as the degree wheel the JD2 units just bolt a degree wheel off the bolt that holds the die.
http://www.jd2.com/images/M3B_PointerCloseup_rs.jpg You can get a degree wheel kit from JD2 for 79 bucks.

I sold my hydraulic bender setup with 2 dies for $1500 used and if I need a bender again I'd get this one for less than a grand with dies.

Great design. Good luck with sales.

Wanting some reviews just like everyone else.. I like this thing, but i don't like how it turns on/off, and that there's no degree wheel on it to know what angle ur at. Got a fix for that?

So the only difference between the pro3 and pro4 is the bender material thickness? Will they both only bend up to .120 ID? Or will the pro4 do a bit thicker?

whypave-

Thanks for the input. I have looked for a alternative rams but most are way out there on price. You can buy 3-4 of my style rams for the same price that you can get a name brand for. Beside I buy so many of them that if there is a manufacture defect. Send it back and I will get you a new one. Its not a big deal. The bender was designed for a small shop or the guy in their garage at a price point they can afford.

Wanting some reviews just like everyone else.. I like this thing, but i don't like how it turns on/off, and that there's no degree wheel on it to know what angle ur at. Got a fix for that?

So the only difference between the pro3 and pro4 is the bender material thickness? Will they both only bend up to .120 ID? Or will the pro4 do a bit thicker?

You turn the ball valve no / off. That allows the air to get to the pump on the ram.

You do not need a degree wheel. You can use a degree finder which is more accurate. They only have a degree wheel on the manual bender because the angle finder will not work going side ways. Only up and down.

As for the .120 wall they will both do it but if you are wanting to do over a 1 5/8" you might want to get into the Pro4. It is almost twice as strong as the Pro3. I have done 1.90 on the Pro4. I am not sure if I would try that on the Pro3.

Hope this info helps.

I'm in the market, and I like it but, I'm curious...

Does it have some device to stop it to make repeatable bends? If I missed something, forgive me, this will be my first experience with a tube bender.

if i buy one can I pick it up local ? I live in the twin cities ..

I'm in the market, and I like it but, I'm curious...

Does it have some device to stop it to make repeatable bends? If I missed something, forgive me, this will be my first experience with a tube bender.

Great question. I do have a 6 position stop for the benders. $399 and it mounts right to the bender for repeat bends. I was going to start a new tread on it but I have not had time to make the video. I have been working on the new website that is going to have over 6500 new products for the off-road market. But if you want I can post a picture for you if you are needing a stop for your bender and that is a deciding factor. Thanks for the question an I look forward to working with you.

if i buy one can I pick it up local ? I live in the twin cities ..

Yep. Just give me a call and we can set up a time. I have one in the shop so I can show you how well it works before you buy.:grinpimp:

Any pics with 2" tubing? This is with 1.75" and it's tight on the JD die. I don't have a 2" die to see if they are the same width.

Any pics with 2" tubing? This is with 1.75" and it's tight on the JD die. I don't have a 2" die to see if they are the same width.

lgraham09-

I don't have a picture our bender with a 2" die on in but I know there are guys out there doing it with a 2" die using our bender. When we did our testing we tested with a Pro Tool 2" die.

FYI: Here is a picture of the Model 3 arm from JD2 the spacer that they use is 2 1/2". On the other side of the tape you will see our spacer that goes in to the Pro3 and the Pro4. It is also 2 1/2 ". So there is no reason that the 2" die from JD2 should not fit. Because at the end of the day we went off their specs.

http://www.team-moto.com/(secure)/IMG_1685 (Large).jpg

On the other hand thanks for the picture. Guys wanted to know if it had the balls to bend 1 3/4". A picture is worth a thousand words.:smokin:

My measures out at 2 5/16". The harwdware and spacers seemed kind of random on some parts but it is together. I ended using a socket for the strap pin since there wasn't another bolt for it.

It's bends 1.75x.120 just fine. I am going to be reinforcing this bolt with a tab right in the middle since it bends so much.

It does 180* just fine. I do need to re-pin it to get the last couple degrees for a perfect 90* due to spring back in the tube.

My measures out at 2 5/16". The harwdware and spacers seemed kind of random on some parts but it is together. I ended using a socket for the strap pin since there wasn't another bolt for it.

It's bends 1.75x.120 just fine. I am going to be reinforcing this bolt with a tab right in the middle since it bends so much.

It does 180* just fine. I do need to re-pin it to get the last couple degrees for a perfect 90* due to spring back in the tube.

If yours are 2 5/16" I can send you out 2 1/2". I went into the bin to take a picture and it was 2 1/2".

As for the pin. The dies come with pins. If JD2 did not get you one you might want to give them a call on that. I have always gotten them from Pro Tool and JD2.

Great Idea- I will make a tab to goes in between that ram mounts to stiffen that up. I will draft that up and start shipping them with that improvement. I am always open to ideas how to make the product for the next guy. It is like the wheel, Goodyear is always trying to make it better and safer.

All in all i am glade to see that it is working for your tips will make a better product for those to come.


FYI: I see that you are not using the ball valve? It will allow more CFM's to pass threw and give you a faster bend.

Thanks, it is working out really good, way easier bending stuff up with only two hands. Don't worry about the sleeves, I don't bend any 2".

Those pics are when I first put it together and was testing it out.

Add that tab and something to hold the ball valve with and it will be a more complete kit. Some better pics of the assembled unit would have made it easier to get together with the hardware that is included. I ended up with some extras and some others I had to swap out for different length. All grade 8 hardware or better would have been nice.

Thanks again for the great product!

Thanks, it is working out really good, way easier bending stuff up with only two hands. Don't worry about the sleeves, I don't bend any 2".

Those pics are when I first put it together and was testing it out.

Add that tab and something to hold the ball valve with and it will be a more complete kit. Some better pics of the assembled unit would have made it easier to get together with the hardware that is included. I ended up with some extras and some others I had to swap out for different length. All grade 8 hardware or better would have been nice.

Thanks again for the great product!

We do offer the ball valve mount. http://www.probender.com/ACC.htm
There is even a 5/8" laser cut hole in the bending arm for it to mount.

http://www.probender.com/IMG_1659 (Large) (Small).jpg

As for the grade 8 bolts. In the effort to keep the cost down we have that also as a option http://www.probender.com/ACC.htm but they are not necessary in order for the bender to work properly.

Is this a mandral bender, it looks like it but wanted to sure.a mandral bender starts at $30,000:homer:
or something

So, to summarize, the Pro 3 will easily handle 1.5", .120" wall tube? That is all I plan on bending...nothing larger.

Got lay-a-way? :D

So, to summarize, the Pro 3 will easily handle 1.5", .120" wall tube? That is all I plan on bending...nothing larger.

Got lay-a-way? :D

Yes the Pro 3 should work out well for you.

As for the lay-a-way. What about part-by-part. :smokin:

Brooklyn Park...Hell I work right down the road in Hopkins. Good luck with the sales!

Sorry that wasn’t worded correctly, what I meant was are the bends smooth like a mandrel, or are they wrinkled like on an exhaust bender of low quality.

So, to summarize, the Pro 3 will easily handle 1.5", .120" wall tube? That is all I plan on bending...nothing larger.

Got lay-a-way? :D

Sorry that wasn’t worded correctly, what I meant was are the bends smooth like a mandrel, or are they wrinkled like on an exhaust bender of low quality.

As long as the tube is within the wall thickness (not +/- what that die was designed to do) it will look very close to a mandrel bend.

Brooklyn Park...Hell I work right down the road in Hopkins. Good luck with the sales!

I went to school in Hopkins:smokin:

what happens if the air psi is higher than 120 psi, does it give it more bending power.

what happens if the air psi is higher than 120 psi, does it give it more bending power.

You want CFM's not PSI. "Over 120 PSI will damage the PUMP"

I already have the change done on the support mount for the ram. I just need some time to get the pic's up that I have made that change. Also I will be subbing the ram bolts (grade 5 bolts) that where in question with “Grade 8 bolts” but I have to get rid of the free digital angle finder :( (As of 2-1-2009.). But the 15 % off on the die will still stand.

I got my bender today :D .... I made about 3 bends with it so far .. very impressed. It works effortlessly and smooth. I cant see anything stressing or being a problem. I got mine all painted up and readyto bend :eek: (yes Rob im fast) might go pick up some tubing tomara and get this bitch broke in !!!!

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w279/bartlettracing/bender.jpg

I got my bender today :D .... I made about 3 bends with it so far .. very impressed. It works effortlessly and smooth. I cant see anything stressing or being a problem. I got mine all painted up and readyto bend :eek: (yes Rob im fast) might go pick up some tubing tomara and get this bitch broke in !!!!

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w279/bartlettracing/bender.jpg

Your killing me here. I was just thinking of....... "I need to get stickers made up". I hope you left room for mine.???:grinpimp: The picture of the bender looks great and I hope you give it hell when you go get the tube. I am kind of jelious of the paint job. I was wondering (if ever) I wanted to powder coat them what color would I chose???? Black is a great color my wife says. Because it is hard to tell that you have been in the shop all day:shaking:

Robert do you know if I can make a 5" offset bend in 1 1/2" Schudule 40 pipe(1.9 OD) using 45° or 30° bends?

I see the pro tools dies with a 4 1/2 bend radius. This is the smallest bend radius die that I have seen.

Based on what I am reading here I would get the Pro 4 bender and the Pro Tools die.

Here's a picture I found on the internet of somone making a 5" offset bend in some tiny conduit.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_kqlpJ2DKnb0/RVEcRMNyABI/AAAAAAAAAMo/LE9ggnG7XNE/completed+offset.JPG

Thanks in advance.
Jason

Heres the pic he tried to show:
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_kqlpJ2DKnb0/RVEcRMNyABI/AAAAAAAAAMo/LE9ggnG7XNE/completed+offset.jpg

I still cannot see the pic

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w279/bartlettracing/completed_offset-1.jpg


yes you can make that bend no problem ....

you would neeed the 1 1/2 pipe die.

You should be able to do that. Here is a picture of tube that I bent that is 1 1/4" tube with a 4 1/2" CLR. If I remember it was 3 1/8" off-set bend then move 8" and then do another off-set bend to match. I will be honest I would not have been able to do that bend on the first go round with out the Bend Tech software. I hope this answer your question.

http://www.team-moto.com/Buggy_Pictures/2008LT2buggy/IMG_1225 (Small).jpg

With Pipe you are going to want to go with the Pro4

That's what I get for linking somebodys picture.

You guys are great. Thanks for all your comments.

Here's the picture I would have posted in the first place but it was late.

http://www.expertmounts.com/cad/offsetbends.jpg

These are shown with a 4 1/2" bend radius. Do you guys think this is the best die size to get? I am sure it takes some significant effort to end 1.9"OD .145 wall thickness at such a tight radius.

Thanks
Jason

That's what I get for linking somebodys picture.

You guys are great. Thanks for all your comments.

Here's the picture I would have posted in the first place but it was late.

http://www.expertmounts.com/cad/offsetbends.jpg

These are shown with a 4 1/2" bend radius. Do you guys think this is the best die size to get? I am sure it takes some significant effort to end 1.9"OD .145 wall thickness at such a tight radius.

Thanks
Jason

I talked to Dean over at Pro Tool and he assured me that you would have no problems. In his words "It should bend like jello with a hydraulic bender." :mr-t:

Now my question for you is do you need the tread on the end of the pipe before you bend or is that some thing that you can do after you bend? Because the set screw might mar the threads. Just my 2 cents.

It's funny. I emailed my drawing to both Pro Tools and JD2 and neither responded. It has only been a day or so though.

It's much easier to have the thread on the pipe before bending but it can be threaded after with great difficulty. If the bolt screws up the threads we can clean it up. It's not something that needs to seal.

What is the CFM requirement on the cylinder? We have a good size compressor but it's close to the office and people complain when it runs too much. HA....

What's the chance you would give me the measurements from the bend tech software if I send you a SolidWorks drawing?


Thanks
Jason

More CFMs the better. (Faster it will bend) But you can use a small craftsman air compressor if you wanted to.

I can get you a file converting it from solid works to Bend tech but you will need the basic version (BT-EZ) to open the file. In February we are going to offer the BT-EZ for free with the purchase of a bender. A $69 value. Along with that you will be able to upgrade that BT software for a full 30 day to any of the other BT software that BT offers.

February as in Monday?

I'll call you monday either way.

Thanks
Jason

sunday I got a chance to bend some tube. It was fun/scary :homer: Im no tubing fabricator by any means. The bender worked flawless and bent the tube very easy.

Things I am learning about the bender /tube bending.

1: On the articals I've read about learning to bend tube, They want you to mark the die for were the bend starts. On this bender that spot is behind the framework. So I have just got a measurment off the front of the die and add that to my bend. understand ? or maybe im doing it wrong?

2: bending my hoop I had to make each end bend first. because there would be no way to make that bend once the 130 degree bends were in because the one end would be wanting to go though the bender frame. Im not sure that would happen on a vertical bender ? would it ?

3: Having a bender on wheels is the BOMB ! I just push it out of that way, get all my cutting done and slide it back in when I need a bend !

4: I can bend a 90 in about 30 seconds :D I can bump the air to super slow for the perfect bend. I love the air :flipoff2:

Here is a pic of my started project. I still have to bend up the tube fenders ect .... Dont be to harsh on me ... This is the first tubing ive ever bent
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w279/bartlettracing/stinger1.jpg

Thanks for the reveiw and the pic's. Now I want to see the stinger in action..

I'll roll the jeep for a copy of bend tech .... then I can build a entire new
Buggy :flipoff2:

I'll roll the jeep for a copy of bend tech .... then I can build a entire new
Buggy :flipoff2:

OK- But I want to watch. I was at the steel yard to day and Adam told me that you picked up 3 sticks. We are going to need more then that to build a new buggy :smokin: Do you want me to have him put some a side for you after this weekend? :grinpimp:

Well im all done Bending tubing for this jeep. The new bender worked awsome ! thanks Rob !

Here is a pic ...
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w279/bartlettracing/frontviewtubingwork.jpg

P.s Ive never bent tubing in my life ! it came out pretty nice. thanks to pirate for the million pictures for me to study :D

P.s. anyone local to me (MN twin cities ) wants some tubing work done I will do it for $300. "The cost of a die set". + tubing. I want to learn more and get more dies. We can bend up what ever you want. I have saws/welder/cutting torches/grinders/ heated shop. pm me if interested.

BK-

Your not done. You need to roll that Bisnitch. That way we can start building (The new crawler). That way I can make my kit (The new crawler) for guys on a budget and they can bend it themselves.... What do you think??? So go rollit this weekend..

Oh- I can see the bender in the backround....

you have a thing about wrecking my jeep :flipoff2: Ill crartwheel the bisnatch if you have a chassie ready to go for me :grinpimp:

I want a single seater centered driver.

Get that bent up so I can swap parts out.

No I just want to see if the welds hold up... :)

very cool product!

Thanks

Rob the welds should hold fine. I actualy know how to run my welder :flipoff2:

j/k :D

free bump ...

I have a guy who wants me to build him a cage :eek: We will see how good my bending is then :shaking:

Rob the welds should hold fine. I actualy know how to run my welder :flipoff2:

j/k :D

free bump ...

I have a guy who wants me to build him a cage :eek: We will see how good my bending is then :shaking:

Let me know if you need any help...

ya you can help .... send me a pm on what you can do on bend tech ez and pro .... thanks ...

If you go to my website http://www.probender.com/Software.htm you will be able to see all te featurse BT has.

Now if I could find somebody in Seattle with that deal! I may have to break down and buy a bender myself then offer MY services out :D

Well im all done Bending tubing for this jeep. The new bender worked awsome ! thanks Rob !


P.s. anyone local to me (MN twin cities ) wants some tubing work done I will do it for $300. "The cost of a die set". + tubing. I want to learn more and get more dies. We can bend up what ever you want. I have saws/welder/cutting torches/grinders/ heated shop. pm me if interested.

Now if I could find somebody in Seattle with that deal! I may have to break down and buy a bender myself then offer MY services out :D

I understand but it is a open forum and I can't regulate advertising on my thread. I will talk to BK about that.

FYI: I have gotten allot of PM's for price quotes. Please send your email address so I can get you a estimate out. It is to hard to get that to you in a PM unless you don't want it broken down into items. Just a total cost shipped.. Thank you for your help on this.

Note: I am working on a shopping cart that you guys can get a price quote and put in a coupon code for the discount.:D

I got my bender Thursday. Thanks Rob!

I started putting it together yesterday evening. I don't have any steel yet to practice on, but I've got a couple of newbie questions. Since my bender is similar to the pro tools version, I was looking at their instructions. One thing I noticed is that I cannot close the bender arms all the way. The ram is hitting on one of the bolts and the backing block is hitting on one of the arms. This is about as far as I can close the arms and clear the backing block. Am I doing something wrong?

Also, does it look like I have the backing block on the correct way? I'm thinking the "top" on the backing block should always be on the left side of the bender when looking at it from the view in the second picture.

Thanks.

http://www.jjkates.com/jeep/jeep/pro%20bender/pro%20bender%20(Small).jpg

http://www.jjkates.com/jeep/jeep/pro%20bender/pro%20bender%203.jpg

"Yes" you are doing something wrong. The Ram needs to go on the bottom bolt like it shows in the instructions. Just put it on the bottom of the 3 bolts and you souled be fine. If you want I can send you a picture?

That makes sense, and it works well. On page 11 and 12 of the .pdf you sent me, it looks like the spring goes on the lower bolt and the ram goes on the top bolt.

The only other issue I'm having is that the follower will not center up with the die.

I just noticed that pro tools are using 2.625" spacers between their arms, mine are 2.5". Could that be part of the problem? 2.625" would allow .125" movement in the die and backing block.


Am I doing something else wrong here? Thanks.

http://www.jjkates.com/jeep/jeep/pro%20bender/pro%20bender%20007%20(Small).jpg

To the naked eye it looks right. I just know that we have way more more on the Pro3 then the Pro4. If I need to add .125 on the Pro4 unit going forward let me know. The only time that you really get the feedback is when it is in the field. I can send you larger spacers if you think that will help but I will expect the feedback in return.:smokin: Keep me posted.

The problem is the bushing in the pro-tools die is welded off center. The main part of the die is 2.3" wide. The center bushing is 2.5" wide. The backing block is 2.5" wide. There's no way to center the backing block on the die in a 2.5" span.

http://www.jjkates.com/jeep/jeep/pro%20bender/pro%20bender%20010%20(Small).jpg

Here is a better pic of the mismatch:


http://www.jjkates.com/jeep/jeep/pro%20bender/mismatch.JPG

http://www.jjkates.com/jeep/jeep/pro%20bender/mismatch2.JPG

Got it! I will talk with Dean from Pro Tools on that. All the dies are supposed to be 2.5" "MAX" That is what they cut the spacer at. But if they are not all the same I will just make the spacer on the Pro4 .25" Larger to compensate for any variation.

I hope you will accept my apology's and I will send you and any others new spacers on the Pro4 if need to make the bender work how I designed it. In my book it is a miner fix but one that needs to be addressed. Thanks for the heads up. PM the your name so I can get you out what you need.

I have no idea who 99tantj is other then you bought a Pro4.:confused:

PS I see that you have a miller 210. How do you like it?

No problem, pm on the way.

PS I see that you have a miller 210. How do you like it?


I love it, best "tool" I've ever bought. It helps make up for what I lack in welding skills. :D

I love it, best "tool" I've ever bought. It helps make up for what I lack in welding skills. :D

We Now Have the new website up and running. Just enter PIRATE4X4 in the coupon code to get your 15% off the list price on your dies.

As for the BT-EZ software spacial (Free software). If you enter the code (PIRATE4X4) for the dies we will see that and send you out the software "Free". A $69 value.... If you don't enter the code we have no idea that you are a pirate member and no Free BT-EZ software. Hope this makes sense. Call me if it does not.:grinpimp:

price on a pro 3 and 1.75 JD die shipped to 80816?

price on a pro 3 and 1.75 JD die shipped to 80816?

You can now go to our new website and get a quote. You can even purchase the benders and the dies w/ your pirate4x4 discount.:D All the dies are 10% off list price and if you use coupon code "pirate4x4" you will get another 5% off the dies. :grinpimp:That makes it a total of 15% off the dies. Thank you for your interest and look forward to you business.

Here is the deal that I am running if you are a forum member.
***Mention you saw our ad on Pirate4x4 and receive 15% off any Pro Tool die sets and also receive a FREE digital angle finder at time of purchase. This applies to only the Pro 3 and the Pro 4 BRUTE benders***

So it wouldn't be possible to go back to the grade 5 stuff in order to get the free angle finder?? :D



You can now go to our new website and get a quote. You can even purchase the benders and the dies w/ your pirate4x4 discount.:D All the dies are 10% off list price and if you use coupon code "pirate4x4" you will get another 5% off the dies. :grinpimp:That makes it a total of 15% off the dies. Thank you for your interest and look forward to you business.
so 15% off the bender, 15% off the dies, free software, (free angle finder if you agree to above), and a hydraulic bender?...Currently looking at your site, thanks to BoogerKing, I've come to realize I'm tired of looking in the classifieds

Wait after seeing the price of the angle finder, I'd have more piece of mind with the grade 8 bolts :D

Oh and no 15% off the bender :laughing: my bad

Oh and no 15% off the bender :laughing: my bad

I did get your order and the Bend-Teach Pro upgrade order too.:D Can you get us pictures of the stuff you made with the bender when you get the bender?:grinpimp:

I definitely will Rob...first thing in order will be a rollcage and redo my x-members & I'm usually a pic whore...:D

Oh and to anyone who's considering going with a ProBender, customer service has been top notch so far :grinpimp:

yep rob has been good .... no problems ..

Yeah, I think the new spacers and pins are going to work out great. Thanks Rob!

Rob, is the Pro3 now made out of 1/2" plate? Info on the first page of this thread states 3/8". Been wanting a bender for a long time, your setup looks like the best bang for the buck. :beer:

http://www.probender.com/products.asp?cat=15


I think it's one of the upgrades they've done...I think I saw it on one of the previous posts, but shows it on the site as 1/2" which was updated not too long ago.

You don't wanna see 72 blazers work it sucks...............JK David:flipoff2:

It kinda does :flipoff2: :laughing:

Rob, is the Pro3 now made out of 1/2" plate? Info on the first page of this thread states 3/8". Been wanting a bender for a long time, your setup looks like the best bang for the buck. :beer:

Yep- We went to 1/2" plate now on the Pro3 so you guys can bend 1 3/4" tube with out having to go up to the Pro4. But as you can see we upped the price to 579.95 to accommodate the increase that we pay for the 1/2" plate steel. We also lowered the price on the base to $39.95 to make it a no brainier if you should get the base or not. I have seen some bases that guys have come up with and have had to tell them that base is to add rigidity not only to make it roll around the shop.

I think I'm going to buy a couple of these, one to pin the backing block and one for the tensioner bolt on the backing block. I got a pin for the die and one for the u-strap from pro-tools.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Hitch-Drawbar-Pin-7-8-Diameter-6-1-2-Usable-Length_W0QQitemZ180329465314QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_ DefaultDomain_0?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

I think I'm going to buy a couple of these, one to pin the backing block and one for the tensioner bolt on the backing block. I got a pin for the die and one for the u-strap from pro-tools.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Hitch-Drawbar-Pin-7-8-Diameter-6-1-2-Usable-Length_W0QQitemZ180329465314QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_ DefaultDomain_0?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

I can sell them for the same price to you but i have had problems with them. When you bend they rotate with the arm and the handle makes it hard to pull the pin for a more then 90 deg angle. If you can give me time i will post the solution and what i am adding to the kit already and you will not need to buy it. It is almost the same but it is a grade 8 pin and I take off the handle so it does not get in the way. I will take some pictures of them when I can get a chance. I am filling orders left and right. I want to get the orders out before I post. Customer come first.:smokin:

I can sell them for the same price to you but i have had problems with them. When you bend they rotate with the arm and the handle makes it hard to pull the pin for a more then 90 deg angle. If you can give me time i will post the solution and what i am adding to the kit already and you will not need to buy it. It is almost the same but it is a grade 8 pin and I take off the handle so it does not get in the way. I will take some pictures of them when I can get a chance. I am filling orders left and right. I want to get the orders out before I post. Customer come first.:smokin:


LOL, I am a customer. :-)

Thanks for the heads up.

No rush, let me know what you come up with. Thanks Rob.

LOL, I am a customer. :-)

Thanks for the heads up.

No rush, let me know what you come up with. Thanks Rob.

Here is what we came up with:

http://www.probender.com/Photos/IMG_1765.jpg

http://www.probender.com/Photos/IMG_1766.jpg

This is what guy want. It makes it easier to switch dies.

oh if i wasnt already in debt up to my eyeballs!!

i still might try to"fit" one in the budget...

oh if i wasnt already in debt up to my eyeballs!!

i still might try to"fit" one in the budget...

Go for it, somebody has to keep the economy going. I'm doing my part. :D

LOL, I am a customer. :-)

Thanks for the heads up.

No rush, let me know what you come up with. Thanks Rob.

Here it is-

$8 + S/h ea.

Let me know?

oh if i wasnt already in debt up to my eyeballs!!

i still might try to"fit" one in the budget...

I will let the vender know....

I 2 have a 2 year old that needs a new pair of shoes. If you think that the $8 bucks is going in to my pocket you F'in nuts. Its cost. IF you can get it cheaper go get it.:shaking:

Am I getting that upgrade included with my order? :D

Would this bend a some EMT? Or is there a die for 2 inch die that will bend like a greenlee?

Is the one on the way to me the upgraded 1/2", I did not see that option last week when I ordered.

Am I getting that upgrade included with my order? :D

Yes yours is getting the new pin setup.

Is the one on the way to me the upgraded 1/2", I did not see that option last week when I ordered.

Yes you are getting the 1/2" instead of the 3/8" since we are not cutting the 3/8" anymore.

Would this bend a some EMT? Or is there a die for 2 inch die that will bend like a greenlee?

The EMT is kind of thin wall for the bender but I can asked today for you and get the answer. I will post it later today.

Thanks Robert, I am looking forward to a package on the doorstep.

Things I am learning about the bender /tube bending...

2: bending my hoop I had to make each end bend first. because there would be no way to make that bend once the 130 degree bends were in because the one end would be wanting to go though the bender frame. Im not sure that would happen on a vertical bender ? would it ?

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w279/bartlettracing/stinger1.jpg

Looking to buy a bender and didn't see an answer to the question about bending the ends first?

I'm probably going be in the market for one of these next week if the sale of my truck goes through on Tuesday :D Price for the PRO3 HYDRAULIC BENDER "PACKAGE" with a 1.75 240* 5.5 CLR die to 78240

Looking to buy a bender and didn't see an answer to the question about bending the ends first?

You will need to bend the inner bends first.

This looks like a great product and just in time to spend my income tax refund on if I get one. Come on more people buy this and post feedback looks great though and user friendly. HOPEFULLY ORDERING SOON.
Joe Carr

This looks like a great product and just in time to spend my income tax refund on if I get one. Come on more people buy this and post feedback looks great though and user friendly. HOPEFULLY ORDERING SOON.
Joe Carr

I am glade you are getting a check back. I can help you spend it.:smokin:

Robert,

I received the bender on Friday and the die came yesterday, made a couple of bends today to check it out. I must say that I'm happy with my purchase. :smokin: I'm starting on a cage for the JK next week and I'll post up some photos.


Thanks, Mitchell...

Robert,

I received the bender on Friday and the die came yesterday, made a couple of bends today to check it out. I must say that I'm happy with my purchase. :smokin: I'm starting on a cage for the JK next week and I'll post up some photos.


Thanks, Mitchell...

Thanks for the feedback. Can't wait for the pictures. I am going to start a customer picture section.

The dies are shipped from Pro Tool. They do a great job in packaging them. So you are paying for packaging and the labor for someone to put it in the box along with the shipping price. So $45 is a bargain for a 40# die set if you ask me.

:eek: Holy crap, you weren't kidding man. One step closer today. Waiting on the rest of the bender to get here tomorrow :grinpimp: Too bad I won't have tubing for another couple of weeks...


1.5 Die...& they put some foam on top of the die...
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/72blazer/IMG_4518.jpg


1.75 die...
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/72blazer/IMG_4517.jpg


Sweet Bliss...
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/72blazer/IMG_4519.jpg

I got my die yesterday, holy crap those are heavy. The bender should be here tomorrow.

:eek: Holy crap, you weren't kidding man. One step closer today. Waiting on the rest of the bender to get here tomorrow


I got my die yesterday, holy crap those are heavy. The bender should be here tomorrow.


You copy cat :flipoff2: :laughing:

Let me know when you guys get them setup.

Did the Pirate4x4 discount expire from the webpage? I was getting ready to pay and it wouldn't go through....

Did the Pirate4x4 discount expire from the webpage? I was getting ready to pay and it wouldn't go through....

Did you put in "pirate4x4" in the coupon code

Did you put in "pirate4x4" in the coupon code
This is what I receive at checkout..

Coupon Number: The discount number you entered (Pirate4x4) was not found, has expired or is not applicable.
Please click here if you wish to go back and try again.

Thanks~!

case sensitive?

.

I will look at it right now.

This is what I receive at checkout..

Coupon Number: The discount number you entered (Pirate4x4) was not found, has expired or is not applicable.
Please click here if you wish to go back and try again.

Thanks~!

I just ran a test and it is working just fine and it does not cap sensitive. I tried it both ways. The discount only applies to the dies not the bender or the bender packages. Call me if you have any questions. I will be out of the office but my extention will ring my cell.

need a price for pro3 digital angel finder, ball valve stand ,jd2 die 1 3/4 240r,and stand. notcher hsn500. i will bend tube up to 1 3/4 .120in most of the time.i can be reached at this # 818 634 2258 alon

need a price for pro3 digital angel finder, ball valve stand ,jd2 die 1 3/4 240r,and stand. notcher hsn500. i will bend tube up to 1 3/4 .120in most of the time.i can be reached at this # 818 634 2258 alon

due, don't be a lazy ass, you can get instant quotes on the site.

I already talked to him this morning. He was just wanting to make sure he was getting the pirate discount

New 4,000 PSI Electric/Hydraulic Pump & Ram Package for the ProBender Benders

Now for only $999.95 extra you can order your Pro3 or Pro4 with the 4,000 PSI Electric/Hydraulic Pump & Ram Package. So for the guys that don't want to run the bender with air you can just plug it into the 110v wall socket.:D With this addition we know that you cannot find a better bender on the market for the money. Period.

http://www.probender.com/Power-Unit--Package.jpg

To add the 4,000 PSI Electric/Hydraulic Pump & Ram Package your bender order? Just check it as an option that you want for your new bender.

I got the bender put together, i am wondering if the gap next to the die is too much? There is about 3/4" gap between the die and the arm, is this ok or should I cut down the spacers?
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g267/1982cj7/DSCN0517.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g267/1982cj7/DSCN0523.jpg

Are those the 1/2" or 5/8" arms?

I got the bender put together, i am wondering if the gap next to the die is too much? There is about 3/4" gap between the die and the arm, is this ok or should I cut down the spacers?


You are fine. I built in a extra gap when I started making the 1/2". It makes it easier to get the dies on and off.

On another note: The base is needed before you start bending.

let me know if you have any more questions.

are those the 1/2" or 5/8" arms?

1/2"

I am building a base for it, I will have it done before I do any bending.

I may be mistaken, but it looks like you might have the ram connected to the wrong bolt. This is how I did mine.
I think this is right, then again I may be the one that has it wrong. I also added a couple sleeves on both sides of the ram
just to keep it centered.



http://www.jjkates.com/jeep/jeep/pro%20bender/gallery/pro%20bender%20023.jpg

http://www.jjkates.com/jeep/jeep/pro%20bender/gallery/pro%20bender%20019.jpg

I may be mistaken, but it looks like you might have the ram connected to the wrong bolt. This is how I did mine.
I think this is right, then again I may be the one that has it wrong. I also added a couple sleeves on both sides of the ram
just to keep it centered.





The ram is on the right bolt. Looks great:grinpimp:

Thanks, it would look a LOT better with some tube sticking out of it. :laughing:

I will have to switch mine, in the directions it looked like it was hooked up the way I have it. I still have to paint it yet anyway.

I will have to switch mine, in the directions it looked like it was hooked up the way I have it. I still have to paint it yet anyway.

????? Please call me if you have any questions? :confused:I am here to make sure that you successed... So if you are unsure please call me and I will walk you threw it.... Rob

PM sent

PM sent back

Pm sent.

Pm sent.

PM sent back.

Spidr-

I got the pipe section fixed on the website. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

got ahold of him, was very helpful and answered all my questions, finished my order a second ago.

ive been calling for like a week with no response, is this business still open?

last reply 6 days ago above yours...........maybe vacation:smokin:

ive been calling for like a week with no response, is this business still open?

What??? :confused: Yeah I am still open. :grinpimp: I have 2 log calls from your 509#

April, 6 6:12 PM
April, 7 9:39 AM

We are open from 10AM-4:30PM CST

Please call between thows hours if you want someone on the phone.:smokin:

last reply 6 days ago above yours...........maybe vacation:smokin:

Vacation??? I wish.... :D

What is the advantange of switching over to the Hydraulic system over the air/Hydraulic system?

More bending power? faster? more control?

What is the advantange of switching over to the Hydraulic system over the air/Hydraulic system?

More bending power? faster? more control?

Just faster but Air/Hydraulic system I think has more control.

Free Bend-Tech EZ with purchase of a Pro3 or Pro4 bender is almost over.
Offer End's 05/01/2009.

hey I sent you a pm concerning my order

PM sent

My bender is ready, well kind of, I forgot to put in the sleeve on the two upper bolts on the long arms, so I'll be breaking it down this weekend to put those on. Tubing is ready to go...just trying to tinker with the Bend Tech, then I'll be building a 'cage for the junk...


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/72blazer/IMG_4655.jpg


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/72blazer/IMG_4656.jpg


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/72blazer/IMG_4657.jpg


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/72blazer/IMG_4658.jpg


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/72blazer/IMG_4661.jpg


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/72blazer/IMG_4654.jpg

I thought I'd offer this suggestion of offering four cut out peices of steel to cap the ends...nothing big, just more of a convenience thing. Crap gets rusted quick down here, so I capped my ends.

Cap what ends???

I like the paint job.:D

Keep us posted on the cage progress. I've been waiting to see someone post some project pics. Mine is sitting in the corner of the garage waiting on tube. :-(

Cap what ends???
Cap the ends of the square tubing on the base...


I like the paint job.:D
thanks. I had started painting it chevy orange...but then I decided it was going to be too much orange with the jack. didn't have any other paint sitting around that would go well with the orange of the jack.

[QUOTE=72blazer;9727054]Cap the ends of the square tubing on the base...

I droped the base price from $100 to $39 and now you want me to cap the ends :confused: Its not going to happen at $39.

:laughing: maybe an option for future buyers. I had extra material laying around so it wasn't a big deal for me. Just thought I'd offer a suggestion.

Not a big deal. I just want to keep things in reach money wise. It is hard to keep my prices way they are due to the economy. So changes like that are not in the budget for most guys.

Just tried to buy online but cost was much more even with the pirate 4x4 promotion code. Post on page one had pro -3 w/o base + die and shipping 799.50. I tried with base and got 1035.04. Did I miss something here. Shouldn't it be 799.50+39???

Just tried to buy online but cost was much more even with the pirate 4x4 promotion code. Post on page one had pro -3 w/o base + die and shipping 799.50. I tried with base and got 1035.04. Did I miss something here. Shouldn't it be 799.50+39???

You will have to read further into the post. We changed the arm thickness from 3/8" to 1/2" on the Pro3. Changing the Pro3 price to $579.95 w/o base. The 15% discount only applies to the PRO-TOOLS dies sets. "Not" the bender or the bender packages. If you want the base now it is $39.95 instead of the old price of $100. We also had to start charging more for shipping because we were losing money with a flat rate program. Now it is done all by the computer to add up the exact price for shipping.

The package with the the die set is the best bang for the buck. But you cannot use the pirate4x4 code on it only on "additional" die sets "with the purchase of a bender". Hope this make sense and if it does not please give me a call and I will go over it with you.

What is the ship time to 77382

Can I upgrade from the free Bendtech EZ to the 3D version for $80 (or any reduction from $149) when I place my order?

Can I upgrade from the free Bendtech EZ to the 3D version for $80 (or any reduction from $149) when I place my order?

Yes, but you have only 7 days to get in your order until the promo ends.

What is the ship time to 77382

Transit time:

End of day 3 Business Days FedEx Ground®

Yes, but you have only 7 days to get in your order until the promo ends.Cool. I will be placing my order today or Monday. I just have to re-read some rule books to figure out what dies I need.

Cool. I will be placing my order today or Monday. I just have to re-read some rule books to figure out what dies I need.

Cool- just keep me posted. PM sent.

Could I get a price on a Pro 4-Brute shipped to 98033. Thanks.

Could I get a price on a Pro 4-Brute shipped to 98033. Thanks.

Here is a link for you>>>

http://www.probender.com/proddetail.asp?prod=126

Let me know if you have any questions.

Probender in today and assembled. Looks good. Instructions not complete. Some bolts have changed since instructions printed, but recently posted pictures clearly showed how it goes together. Awaiting dies and then the testing begins.:smokin:

Probender in today and assembled. Looks good. Instructions not complete. Some bolts have changed since instructions printed, but recently posted pictures clearly showed how it goes together. Awaiting dies and then the testing begins.:smokin:

The bending instructions come with the die.:grinpimp:

Still lost on the whole bending idea :laughing: We managed to "wing" it with the BT Pro...here's the results from today...will do more tomorrow with better quality pics :grinpimp:


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/72blazer/Rollcage4.jpg


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/72blazer/Rollcage3.jpg


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/72blazer/Rollcage1.jpg

I will be out with my daughter tomorrow...Sunday... but if you have a question let me know on Monday....

Did the core of the 'cage today...

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/72blazer/IMG_4737.jpg


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/72blazer/IMG_4736.jpg


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/72blazer/IMG_4740.jpg


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/72blazer/IMG_4742.jpg


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/72blazer/IMG_4747.jpg


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/72blazer/IMG_4750.jpg


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/72blazer/IMG_4751.jpg


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/72blazer/IMG_4752.jpg

P. S. Diggin' the bender :grinpimp:

Good to see that you are putting the bender to good use.

Quick question?

Now that you have had time to use it. On a scale from 1-10 how would you rate the bender? On Speed, flexibility, skill level to use and over all look of the bend when the tube is bent.

On Speed, flexibility, skill level to use and over all look of the bend when the tube is bent.

Speed: 6...It's a bit slow getting to a 90* bend, but it's better than pulling a handle manually, well worth the trade off.

Flexibility: 10...I can move it anywhere, dies are easy to change now that that damn paint has been scratched off. :laughing:

Skill Level to Use: 7...Figuring out where to bend was a PITA...then we finally figured out how to work the BT Pro...I just wish there was an easier way to learn to use the BT other than spending an endless amount of time trying to figure everything out...:shaking:...Other than that, the bender itself is VERY easy to use

Over All Look of the Bend: 10...:grinpimp:

Thanks for the feedback...

Speed will all ways be determined by the CFM on your compressor. The other option is to go with our electric setup.

yea the compressor sucks balls :laughing:

I was able to make it out to Dresser, WI. http://www.memorial4x4.org/index.php I will post video when I get a chance.

Took the H1 out there and had a great time. I think next year we will bring our both out there and spend the weekend.

Not sure what the need for reviews is. the benefits of the design prove them selves in the video. since the cad drawings for the stock bender "arms" are widely available and the dies come from Pro Tools or JD2 there really isn't anything to go wrong with this setup. worse case is that he supplies a cheap air over hydraulic ram so perhaps posting a brand name and warranty for that would help people?


What i would like to know is how are the 5/8 thick arms on the BRUTE model doing bending 2.0 OD .125 wall.

I have a Jd2 Model 3 and the pin holes on the frame arms got deformed while bending a 2.0 OD .125 wall tube. I know it was too much for it. The Jd2 model 32 is rated to do that with no probs.

What about the Pro4 BRUTE model ??

I really like the pro-bender prices. But it would be nice to read some reviews or to know the ratings for the arms on the BRUTE model.

As a comparison note for the Bender Arms thickness :

Jd2 model 3 = 1/2" (0.50) thickness
Pro Bender = 5/8" (0.63) thickness on the BRUTE model
Jd2 model 32 = 3/4" (0.75) thickness and have larger pins


-JM

What i would like to know is how are the 5/8 thick arms on the BRUTE model doing bending 2.0 OD .125 wall.

I have a JD2 Model 3 and the pin holes on the frame arms got deformed while bending a 2.0 OD .125 wall tube. I know it was too much for it. The JD2 model 32 is rated to do that with no probs.

What about the Pro4 BRUTE model ??

I really like the pro-bender prices. But it would be nice to read some reviews or to know the ratings for the arms on the BRUTE model.

As a comparison note for the Bender Arms thickness :

Jd2 model 3 = 1/2" (0.50) thickness
Pro Bender = 5/8" (0.63) thickness on the BRUTE model
Jd2 model 32 = 3/4" (0.75) thickness and have larger pins


-JM

JM-

Great Question

The Pro3-JD2 is the weakest in our line-up due to the nature of the JD2 design. (thin material next to the pins) That is why I have considered dropping the Pro3-JD2 due to bad design on the part of JD2. I only keep it around for guys that have 1 3/4" dies (or less) that have bought from JD2 in the past and all they want to do is go with the vertical design or want hydraulics. As you can see that JD2 had to revamp there model 3 design and came out with the Model 32 because the old model 3 did not compare to the Pro-Tools 105 and the JMR 150. Which in my mind have a much stronger design. So having said that- Go look at the Model 32, kinda looks like the Pro-Tools 105 and the JMR 150 :confused: Enough said.

In short- To answer your question. If you have the model 3 dies and like the Pro4-JD2 design. Then it is as good as the JD2 design but with thicker arms. If you are going to buy brand new? I would stick to the Pro3 -or- Pro4. They use the Pro-Tools dies. Not to mention you do not have to wait for 1-2 months to get your dies. They usual go out in about 7-10 working days with a 15% Pirate4x4 discount :D on dies.

FYI: I have yet to have one of the Pro3's -or- the Pro4's come back. :smokin: I can't say that about the Pro3-JD2.

I finally got around to doing some bending today. Actually I was just bending a couple of coilover mounts for a friend.

I have a couple of newbie questions. The bends were supposed to be 170*. We got about 7* spring back. Does that sound about right for 1.75" .120 wall DOM?

The only way I could get the tube out when we were done bending was to hammer out the pin holding the follower die. It seems like after doing that a lot it might wear the holes in the arms. Is there a better way to do this?

thanks

http://www.jjkates.com/jeep/jeep/pro%20bender/probender%20004%20(Small).jpg


http://www.jjkates.com/jeep/jeep/pro%20bender/probender%20001%20(Small).jpg

I finally got around to doing some bending today. Actually I was just bending a couple of coilover mounts for a friend.

I have a couple of newbie questions. The bends were supposed to be 170*. We got about 7* spring back. Does that sound about right for 1.75" .120 wall DOM?

The only way I could get the tube out when we were done bending was to hammer out the pin holding the follower die. It seems like after doing that a lot it might wear the holes in the arms. Is there a better way to do this?

thanks



Did you lube the dies before bending the tube??

Also depending on the actual tube dimensions my be a .001-.005 over the makes the tube stick. I found that once the die gets seasoned that sort of thin goes away.

As for the spring back, 7* on a 170* bend is not uncommon.

Did you lube the dies before bending the tube??

Also depending on the actual tube dimensions my be a .001-.005 over the makes the tube stick. I found that once the die gets seasoned that sort of thin goes away.

As for the spring back, 7* on a 170* bend is not uncommon.

Yes, I lubed the follower. I did not lube the main die. thanks

Yes, I lubed the follower. I did not lube the main die. thanks

I lube both just to be safe.

Looking for the pirate4x4 deal on this mentioned in the first post.

Looking for the Brute with the 1.75 110 degree die, BT 3D software, Addtional die of 1.5 6" 220 Degree as well shipped to 92064
Thanks

Looking for the pirate4x4 deal on this mentioned in the first post.

Looking for the Brute with the 1.75 110 degree die, BT 3D software, Addtional die of 1.5 6" 220 Degree as well shipped to 92064
Thanks

PM sent

I have visited the website and there does not seem to be any bender but a manual bender for under $500.

This ad is misleading and incorrect. They also just updated the ad to reflect only 15% off of the dies and not the bender after I questioned them about the bender under 500.

JM-

a 15% Pirate4x4 discount :D on dies.

FYI: I have yet to have one of the Pro3's -or- the Pro4's come back. :smokin: I can't say that about the Pro3-JD2.

I have visited the website and there does not seem to be any bender but a manual bender for under $500.

This ad is misleading and incorrect. They also just updated the ad to reflect only 15% off of the dies and not the bender after I questioned them about the bender under 500.

you could ask the vendor
those are air/hydro not manual
optional electric/hydro
not missleading at all
he has already stated dies only 15% not bender in this post

I have visited the website and there does not seem to be any bender but a manual bender for under $500.

This ad is misleading and incorrect. They also just updated the ad to reflect only 15% off of the dies and not the bender after I questioned them about the bender under 500.

The bender was under $500 ($479.95 to be exact) when I started the post last year. If there is a way to change the header please let me know because I have tried.

Since then the Pro3 is now 1/2" instead of the 3/8" standard. Raising the price to $579.95. Not a bad price for a bender of its caliber.

I am sorry if you felt mislead but it is all in this thread if you read it cover to cover.

The bender was under $500 ($479.95 to be exact) when I started the post last year. If there is a way to change the header please let me know because I have tried.
.

we can not change title
PM a mod or LANCE/CAMO & ask if they can change it
this is why I never post prices in titles of a long term add
be a shame to delete this add with all the reviews
if that can't be done, make 1st part of post #1 big fontwith
"ATT PRICE CHANGE"

that might help
I hope to buy one of these someday, got a new rig already exo caged, but always want to add to it something.:smokin:

Thank for the advise. I will get on that right now.

Thread title has been changed to reflect current status - nice talking with you Rob :cool2:

Thread title has been changed to reflect current status - nice talking with you Rob :cool2:

Thanks for all your help.

Would the pro 3 be fine for bending up 1.5" .188 wall DOM tube?

Rob, got mine in and tacked together to check for fit. Going to do final welding this weekend and get some tube bent up.

Anyone waiting to pull the trigger on one of these... stop waiting. Having spent the last few years cranking on my JD2 - I am sooooooo looking forward to swinging a lever instead :cool2:

Quick question - are you guys welding the uprights to the base, or just relying on the two bolts by themselves?

Quick question - are you guys welding the uprights to the base, or just relying on the two bolts by themselves?

I would have posted earlier but the redirection to reno rocks blocked me :shaking:.


If you're refering to the uprights as being the the longer thock arms, then no I didn't weld mine on. But I am considering throwing a few tacks on on the arms and bolts, as I have noticed a tiny bit of movement...

If you're refering to the uprights as being the the longer thock arms, then no I didn't weld mine on. But I am considering throwing a few tacks on on the arms and bolts, as I have noticed a tiny bit of movement...


Yes, the right angle between the base and the uprights. I test fitted mine and bent a 90* with it before final welding, and I noticed some movement as well - even though I know I had those 2 bolts pretty tight.

Now that I think about it - I might weld some blocks on the side of the uprights once it's bolted in there, so that it can only move so far on the bolts before it hits the block stops. That way it is still able to be broken down for transport or repair, but the movement can be controlled.

Then again - maybe I am just paranoid and over-thinking this :p

Yes, the right angle between the base and the uprights. I test fitted mine and bent a 90* with it before final welding, and I noticed some movement as well - even though I know I had those 2 bolts pretty tight.

Now that I think about it - I might weld some blocks on the side of the uprights once it's bolted in there, so that it can only move so far on the bolts before it hits the block stops. That way it is still able to be broken down for transport or repair, but the movement can be controlled.

Then again - maybe I am just paranoid and over-thinking this :p

I have welded them in the past. But I will tell you that my production bender (Pro3) I only welded the base and have ran well over a 1,000 tubes threw it with out a hitch.

So is it nessisay :confused: No, But if would want to it can hurt unless you want to disassemble for storage. :smokin:

Would the pro 3 be fine for bending up 1.5" .188 wall DOM tube?

The Pro3 should be able to do it but the dies are only set-up to do " 0.058- 0.134". So you can call Pro-tool to see if they will warranty it or it is a $250+ test run if it does not work. your call. Most warranties are going to be void but that is not saying that it cannot do it. If you know what I mean?

I have welded them in the past. But I will tell you that my production bender (Pro3) I only welded the base and have ran well over a 1,000 tubes threw it with out a hitch.

:eek: I guess that settles it - no need for welding :cool2:

The suspense is killing me. Friday night I assembled it and ran a test bend, then Saturday I welded up and painted the base (it even has Toyota parts on it :laughing: ). Now I have to paint the uprights and the arms, THEN I can finally put this thing back together and start bending.

I figure with a nice bender like this - I want to spend the time up front to make it look good for years to come ;)

So I did a bender with base and dies and it came out to be 100 bucks cheaper than a package with the same stuff. Why?

So I did a bender with base and dies and it came out to be 100 bucks cheaper than a package with the same stuff. Why?

Some times if you add the pirate discount it comes out a better price on the smaller die sets. But if you order the that larger dies it will come out to be more.

Just go pictures from the Magazine "Brute" build.

http://forum.aev-conversions.com/showthread.php?t=1048

http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o358/Da_bear_2008/IMG_6082-1.jpg
http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o358/Da_bear_2008/IMG_4231.jpg
http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o358/Da_bear_2008/IMG_4232.jpg
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http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o358/Da_bear_2008/IMG_4240.jpg
http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o358/Da_bear_2008/IMG_4242.jpg
http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o358/Da_bear_2008/IMG_4290.jpg

Thanks Bear for sharing

I have about a hundred cans of this RPS blue sitting around, so that's what color it got sprayed :D:D:D

looks good....

I would like a price on a Pro 3 bender no base with Model 105 dies, #517 and #532 shipped to 35661. Thanks

Corey

I would like a price on a Pro 3 bender no base with Model 105 dies, #517 and #532 shipped to 35661. Thanks

Corey

PM Sent

Could i get a quote on the bender and hitch pins only... No base,ram,springs,or anything else as i have my own ram and hydraulic setup? Delivered to 91342

looks good....

Thanks!

I started a thread in the Tool forum about it: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=799704

I hope to get some tube bent this week :cool2:

Could i get a quote on the bender and hitch pins only... No base,ram,springs,or anything else as i have my own ram and hydraulic setup? Delivered to 91342

I am sorry but we do not just sell the parts separate. We only sell our benders as a complete tool.

Ok i've been looking at these for awhile now and it looks like you changed the plate size... So the base model is now cut from 1/2" material right? So what would the jd2 model shipped to 91342, cost?

Ok i've been looking at these for awhile now and it looks like you changed the plate size... So the base model is now cut from 1/2" material right? So what would the jd2 model shipped to 91342, cost?

It all on the web.

http://www.probender.com/proddetail.asp?prod=101

Can I get a quote for a Pro 3 Bender Package with a 1.5"x4.5"CLR Pro Tools die shipped to 01913. This comes with the base, ball valve mount, etc..., correct?

Thanks,

Ken

Can I get a quote for a Pro 3 Bender Package with a 1.5"x4.5"CLR Pro Tools die shipped to 01913. This comes with the base, ball valve mount, etc..., correct?

Thanks,

Ken

Hey Ken-

Yep: http://www.probender.com/proddetail.asp?prod=125

Hey Ken-

Yep: http://www.probender.com/proddetail.asp?prod=125


So, that price includes the discount on the Pro Tools die? Just checking because I tried to enter the discount coupon and it said it was invalid. :)

So, that price includes the discount on the Pro Tools die? Just checking because I tried to enter the discount coupon and it said it was invalid. :)

The discount is on the dies separate not in the bender package. the die package is the best deal. but if you are need more then one die? The second die out side the package would have the discount. Hope this helps. If not please call me and we can go over it.

Is there a Pirate discount on the Pro 3? Just don't know how they get under 600$?

Is there a Pirate discount on the Pro 3? Just don't know how they get under 600$?

If you order them w/o the die hitch pins.

Ok thanks! before when I looked at the website they were starting at 604$ but I must of had the hitch pins selected or something...

Taylor

Ok thanks! before when I looked at the website they were starting at 604$ but I must of had the hitch pins selected or something...

Taylor

It was on our side. It was set as a default but I had it fixed.

It was on our side. It was set as a default but I had it fixed.

I went on your site to order a Pro 3 a few minutes ago and now it is 679$ What is with all the pricing changes? Can I still get a Pro 3 for under 600$ like your thread title states?


Thanks,
Taylor