: Real world 2008 Tundra towing


bignissan
11-21-2008, 05:52 AM
Specs: Bone stock 2008 Tundra 4x4, 5.7L, double cab (not the real big one), prodigy brake controller, steel rims, SR5 package with a few up-grades.

Load, full backseat of hand tools, power saws, drills, notcher etc etc.
Bed full of scrap tube, some 1/4" plate, bender, stand, couple of dies, notching table.

Trailer, 20 ft steel deck car hauler, 5200 lb axles, 87? bronco, one tons, 36 tsl sx's, bead locks on H1 rims, cage, sliders etc.

Not 100% sure of the exact weight of everything, but my 18' steel deck car hauler with 3500 lb axles was 2300 lbs. I'm going to ASSume the 20' car hauler is roughly 2800 lbs with the goodies it had on it.

The trip was 130 miles or so, from College Station to Nacogdoches Texas.

Heading out was pouring down rain, really bad storms blowing through. I had a bad wreck in weather like that several years ago so I was being extra careful.

The truck handled the weather with the load phenominal. It was solid, steering was spot on and the brakes were top notch. It was very "hilly" (for texas) so I kept it about 55 mph the whole way due to the weather and being at night. I arrived in one piece, without being overly stressed about the conditions.

Overall impression, towing success. I was pumped it handled so well. Two issues:
1) MPG 8.5
2) Rear suspension: the suspension FEELS solid, and controlled, however, people thought I had my brights on because the rear was squating a good bit. I never bottomed out or anything, it was a controlled and consistant squat. Air bags are in order.



The trip back:

Same road, day time, beautiful weather that happens about 3 weeks of the year here.

Long story short, power is not a problem. Brakes not a problem. I decided to maintain 65-70 the whole way just to see what the results were. Even on long climbs it maintained speed without a problem and felt stable around the long back road curves.

For grins, on the longest grade of the trip, I pushed the gas about 5/8-3/4 throttle to make it downshift another gear. Pulled to 80+ mph no problem with out making the engine scream past 4k rpms. (redline is ~6k I think).

Return trip MPG: 9

Overall, I am very very satisfied with the truck and performance. It tows great and handles wonderful.

I am adding some air bags and that's it. My rig is a nissan so my normal load should be about 2k lbs less.

For all the nay sayers, I used to tow with a 95' F-250 psd flat bed, 5 spd. It got much better fuel mileage, but the technology the Tundra brings to the table now is still King in my book.

If you need to tow ~11000 lbs or less, this is a great truck.
If you need a high payload capacity or towing more than 11k, I'd go with a new or used 3/4 ton. I'm confident with the Tundra probably up to 12-12.5k lbs on a trailer, but the payload capacity isn't quite there.

This is just my .02, take it or leave it. I just haven't read any real towing stories yet for what we do here.

bignissan
11-21-2008, 05:53 AM
sorry, that was longer than I expected...

montecarlo31
11-21-2008, 06:14 AM
Good review, I don't think you can go wrong with any half ton out there (except maybe the titan). I'm sure it will handle much better once you get the air bags on there. 9 MPG doesn't seem awful to me ( I dunno though, that's what my sliverado gets towing 2500 or 9000 lbs). Good luck with the new rig. I think todays 1/2 tons are very similar in capacity to yesteryears 3/4 tons. I mean, when can you stop calling a 1/2 ton a half ton, got toyota w/ a 10.5" ring, GM w/ 9.5 semi floater, ford with the 9.75/10.25 depending on set up. Brakes are a good 1 to 2 inches bigger and proably a good bit thicker then ever before. Look at toyota with 401 ft lbs of torque, that's getting close to old diesel torque and with modern 6 speed autos you've got a good spread to run in.

That being said I'll go with the forum rule, if it's a trailer over 1500 lbs you HAVE to have a turbo diesel with exhaust intake tuner, air springs, etc etc etc or your going to kill someone....lol

hadfield4wd
11-21-2008, 09:08 AM
I'd be hardpressed to believe your nissan only wieghs 2k. Other that that nice review.

9mpg sucks.

My 1/2 ton, 120k, 2002 silverado gets 12mpg towing a 4600lb jeep on a 1500lb trailer.

uglyscout
11-21-2008, 09:14 AM
I'd be hardpressed to believe your nissan only wieghs 2k. Other that that nice review.

9mpg sucks.

My 1/2 ton, 120k, 2002 silverado gets 12mpg towing a 4600lb jeep on a 1500lb trailer.

He said his Nissan weighs 2000 pounds less than the Bronco he was towing....

bignissan
11-21-2008, 09:17 AM
"My rig is a nissan so my normal load should be about 2k lbs less."

The nissan weighs right at 3900 lbs.

I don't think I'd get 12 mpg even with the 6100 lbs trailer you tow. On the flat hwy I saw 10 for a bit with the load I had. But for a strict overall avg, I still expect it to be 9 mpg pretty much where ever I go.

hadfield4wd
11-21-2008, 10:51 AM
"My rig is a nissan so my normal load should be about 2k lbs less."

The nissan weighs right at 3900 lbs.

I don't think I'd get 12 mpg even with the 6100 lbs trailer you tow. On the flat hwy I saw 10 for a bit with the load I had. But for a strict overall avg, I still expect it to be 9 mpg pretty much where ever I go.

My bad sorry.:(

Stic-o
11-21-2008, 11:00 AM
'05 Ford F-150 Supercrew 5.4. 4x2 Edge programer, Gibson, K&N. Towing 14' flatbed with my Explorer on it, about 7k lbs. Los Angeles to Salton Sea and back (about 400 miles), avereged 14mpg:smokin: at 60-65mph and pletty of power.

I'll keep my Ford, thank you:D

bignissan
11-21-2008, 11:10 AM
That's pretty awesome. The guy's bronco I was towing has an 05 F-150 with 33's. Tow's the bronco fine, but gets 9 mpg as well, and 13 mpg unloaded. So he bought an 84 toyota pick up to drive to work...

I'm really not posting this as a debate for who makes the best truck, but as information of how the Toyota does.

Stic-o
11-21-2008, 01:59 PM
That's pretty awesome. The guy's bronco I was towing has an 05 F-150 with 33's. Tow's the bronco fine, but gets 9 mpg as well, and 13 mpg unloaded. So he bought an 84 toyota pick up to drive to work...

I'm really not posting this as a debate for who makes the best truck, but as information of how the Toyota does.


Sorry if I came off that way, just was pointing out that good milage is possiable in our gasers. Empty I get 14 on the street and 17-18 on the highway. I was very suprised in the towing milage, I was hoping for 11. The Edge programer is the trick though. That 14mpg is with the programer on level 3 using premium, which I only use for towing. Other then that I just leave it on level 2 and use regular.

bignissan
11-22-2008, 06:40 PM
Sorry if I came off that way, just was pointing out that good milage is possiable in our gasers. Empty I get 14 on the street and 17-18 on the highway. I was very suprised in the towing milage, I was hoping for 11. The Edge programer is the trick though. That 14mpg is with the programer on level 3 using premium, which I only use for towing. Other then that I just leave it on level 2 and use regular.


No sweat- I just know how threads can turn on here and wanted to keep it mostly informative. :D

OkLaHoMaYJ
11-24-2008, 01:41 PM
'05 Ford F-150 Supercrew 5.4. 4x2 Edge programer, Gibson, K&N. Towing 14' flatbed with my Explorer on it, about 7k lbs. Los Angeles to Salton Sea and back (about 400 miles), avereged 14mpg:smokin: at 60-65mph and pletty of power.

I'll keep my Ford, thank you:D

That's really good....

2006 F-150 King Ranch 4x4 5.4L bone stock...16' flatbed, wood deck, pretty light, towed a 2001 F-150 Screw 4x4 from Dallas, TX to OKC, OK....went the speed limit as often as I could (70mph) and got 7.6MPG!

Same truck towing a 2006 Super Air Nautique wake board boat, 21 feet, heavy, wide, and not aerodynamic at all....dry weight is 5500lbs....fully loaded I'd say close to 6500.....traveling about 40 miles away doing the speed limit (60-65mph) averaged 8.8MPG...

Stic-o
11-24-2008, 04:23 PM
Well that's what I'm wondering...if it's all aerodynamics. The sides and the hood of my Explorer on the trailer, line up almost dead on with the sides and roof of the F-150. :smokin: