I havent heard too much that toyotas dont have stoping power, but mine doesnt I only have 32'' swampers and there is no way I could lock up if I had to. I just got a break job done new pads etc.
Is there an easy way of getting more break with sticking with toy's. And yes there is break fluid.

Toyboomer---normally they do...unless you have plain ole manual brakes or maybe have a Dana44 up there with monster calipers. Are the rubber brake hoses in good shape? They are not 'expanding' are they?

every thing looks good, toy axle ft and rear, standerd disk ft drum rear. the pedal isnt soft infact I think its too hard just have to aply sooo much pressure and pray no cherens run out.

Have you checked your M/C? My 83 is able to put a halt to 35" tires, a 350, and an automatic tranny - so yours should be able to as well...

I never had a problem stopping my '94 w/ 35's. Hell - I don't even think my rear drums worked :D

Try swapping a smaller bore master cylinder... You might for some reason have a 1" or 7/8" bore. go to a 3/4" bore master cylinder...

You'll have to check a catalog to get bore diameters for compatable master cylinders, but choose the smallest diameter. Also, keep in mind that will increase pedal travel required for braking, but reduce actuall pedal effort.

You can check your brake booster. You might have a vacuum leak and are not getting any brake assist. Sometime when the engine is warm and you have been driving for awhile, shut off the engine and pump the brake pedal. If it doesn't seem to get harder as you pump it (this is depleting the vacuum in the booster every time you push the pedal) then you might not have had any assist in the first place. You could also pull off the vacuum line and check valve to the booster and see if the booster makes a wooshing sounds as air rushes into the evacuated booster. If you need further explanation or anything PM me.

I second the vacuum booster. Mine went out 2 weeks ago, I had to stand on the peddle to get it to even start to slow down, forget about locking it up. You could have a vacuum leak or yours could be on it's way out too.

Thanks, I'll check it.

As time goes on, you may be putting on bigger tires and adding more weight. When you do, you may want to consider swapping to vented disks. Do a search and you'll find lots of info on this (81 FJ45 rotors, 86+ IFS calipers, 3/4" spacers). You can also swap in a later (86+) rear end which has larger rear drums.

You can also add the T100 calipers or ones off a new forerunner, like '96 or so. they are alot bigger and have bigger pads too.

is the T100 caliper / rotor swap a bolt on deal?

Originally posted by EWong
is the T100 caliper / rotor swap a bolt on deal?

Also, to what years does this apply? Is it possible to do on an '84?

Originally posted by cruiserbrett
You can also add the T100 calipers or ones off a new forerunner, like '96 or so. they are alot bigger and have bigger pads too.

No you can't! T100's use thicker rotors (25mm vs. 18mm).

You can bolt in the T100 booster though and it will give you more brake assist. :)

If you were using IFS rotors (not landcruiser rotors), you could bolt T100 rotors and calipers on though.

You need to solve your problem before you band-aid it with disc swaps and such. I know when my truck is off (like stalling on a hill) and I try to use brakes to stop it... it's very scary... Try this: Pump the brakes a couple times with the truck off (this uses up the remaning vacuum in the resivoir) and stand on the pedal. It should be very hard. While holding the pedal down, does it sink any when you start it and the power-assist kicks in?

If not, that might be your problem... Or someone will post telling me I'm an idiot. Either way, I tried.

I have the 91' Toy M/C and did a 4 wheel skid with 38's and Toy axles. I almost ran a red light, hitting some old lady on a walker! :D I was talking to my buddy not paying attention. :laughing: If you take your mounting bracket off of your axle, for the proportioning valve, and raise it all the way up, you will have a buttload of rear braking. It makes a huge difference in stopping distance. Just anchor it to the crossmember, or zip tie it a couple of times.

Originally posted by TNToy
You need to solve your problem before you band-aid it with disc swaps and such. I know when my truck is off (like stalling on a hill) and I try to use brakes to stop it... it's very scary... Try this: Pump the brakes a couple times with the truck off (this uses up the remaning vacuum in the resivoir) and stand on the pedal. It should be very hard. While holding the pedal down, does it sink any when you start it and the power-assist kicks in?

If not, that might be your problem... Or someone will post telling me I'm an idiot. Either way, I tried.


That's a good way to test if there is vacuum assist! Much easier than taking off hoses and such like I was saying.

How about the proportioning valve. Did you lift the truck and not adjust it. If you lifted the truck the arm will not let it adjust right. Lock it up in the mud or wet in 2wd and see if the back slides. If it don't you need to di some fixin back there. Just a place to start!