I am at a bad place in life for stocking up on guns and ammo. I've got the obligatory ar15, 9mm, and an assortment of 22 rifles and pistols, as well as a couple shotguns that are more of the bird hunting type. We are purely focused at this time on paying off all of our debt, and saving money for the upcoming birth of my son/daughter. Assuming worst case scenarios of a no sunset AWB, we are going to have to turn to other firearms. What are everyone's opinions on other firearms, such as lever action rifles, shotguns, and revolvers. I assume that these would be the last to be banned. I've been thinking that a lever action in .30-30 would be good. Decent power out to 150 yards and should be lots of ammo availability. I want an 870 with tube extension. I've got an 1100 in 20 gauge, and a Belgium Browning A-5 in 12, but neither one of them are that handy, being very long. And I am thinking that a S&W 686 or Ruger SP101 in .357 would be the ticket for good power and once again lots of ammo availability. Although it is hard to argue with the glock in 9mm since pretty much all govt's use this round. What are everyone else's thoughts and opinions?

I think you are buying the absolute wrong firearms. 30-30 lever actions and revolvers will never be banned in your lifetime. You need to be buying SKSs, AK variants, AR-15s (especially carbines with evil features), FALs, etc.

In addition to that, anything with a high capacity magazine is a good choice, and stock up on magazines. What that means is that an order for 200 magazines of various types might be even better than stacking firearms deep.

The only shotguns you should be concerned with are those with very large capacities, specifically in 12 gauge. Hunting shotguns are not going to be the target of any bannage.

Dammit. It kills me to agree with Tim :flipoff2:

Dammit. It kills me to agree with Tim :flipoff2:

Well since you agree with me, I'll take it a step further. I would consider selling some of your stuff that won't be subject to any future restriction to acquire stuff that may. In the future, there may be no more firearms with evil features for you to buy. If I end up having to sell some of my less-evil firearms to acquire things that won't be banned, I will consider doing it myself. That includes .22s, revolvers of any kind, bolt action rifles, shotguns, etc.

I'm really convinced that Obama and Pelosi are going to have better things to worry about than firearms, but as of now, like many others, I'm not taking any chances.

That wasn't really what I was trying to start a discussion about. I am talking about a what if situation where in a year or two, there is a new AWB. What will you buy THEN. Most of my guns have sentimental value and I would never sell them. What I am saying, is that if you couldn't buy an AR, or FAL, or AK, where would you turn to next? What hunting type carbines in what calibers, what shotguns, etc. I am slowing getting what I can for my AR, but I'm not one of the guys that can buy several cases of 5.56 and several hundred mags. It just isn't going to happen. I guess I'm not asking what I should buy now. I know what all of those things are. Its just a hypothetical about where to turn to next.

If I couldn't buy the firearms I wanted, I'd enjoy the ones that I have. I have little interest in owning that which is essentially obsolete. My appreciation for firearms is more like tools, and those which are most useful to me have the most intrinsic value.

The only thing I do not have that I want-- and will also be one of the first to be banned, maybe even by some sort of executive order-- is the BMG .50.

I want a semi-auto Barrett. There is no substitute for me. And at least 13 mags and 500 rounds of ammo.

And only a few months left to get it done.

I am thinking of getting two. One to keep and one for investment value.

you have 20 grand laying around to buy two barretts and 13 mags? what are you waiting for?

wonder if the bank would give me a loan for a barrett....hmmmm

I'm really convinced that Obama and Pelosi are going to have better things to worry about than firearms, but as of now, like many others, I'm not taking any chances.

They do. The part you are missing is that they don't have to do anything. There are plenty of people with anti gun agendas that will do all the work, all BO has to do is sign it (ie: not veto) With all the libs in power ending at BO the anti gunners are going to try and pass everything possible.

They do. The part you are missing is that they don't have to do anything. There are plenty of people with anti gun agendas that will do all the work, all BO has to do is sign it (ie: not veto) With all the libs in power ending at BO the anti gunners are going to try and pass everything possible.

I really don't think that's true. It would be political suicide for the house of representatives. Don't assume just because they have a D next to their name that they'd vote for another AWB. Compromises must be made to even get such a bill to Obama's desk.

:shaking:

a barrett in today's market is over 8,200 a pop. with maybe 2 mags.

--have fun with that.

--Sherpa

Ya.... I'll never be able to afford a .50 cal. However... I fully intend on getting a NICE bolt action .338 Lapua Mag.

.338 LM rifles tend to cost about the same as a .50. Ammo is about the same as well.

During the last ban it was high capacity mags that you couldn't get new.
You could still get an AR, just couldn't have a flash hider or bayo lug on it.

I think anti's feel the last ban was a failure. Not because it did nothing to effect crime rates, but because of the loop holes.

Take a read of McCarthies HR1022.
Much more restrictive. I would bet money she already has a version to present on the first day of the new congress.

I feel that something like this would be very difficult to get passed. However with the current financial crisis, BO's new deal II, and all the other welfare programs the gov needs a way to pay for it. So lets just change FAET from 14% to 1000%. Call it a luxuray tax. "No one needs these items, they are a luxary" "A hunter doesn't need more then 20 rounds per season so its not a big deal to the individual".

just my .02

.338 LM rifles tend to cost about the same as a .50. Ammo is about the same as well.
Ya.... I was looking at ammo prices. Didnt think rifles chambered in .338 LM cost as much as a .50 though.... hell... looks like I'll be goin with a .300 ultra mag then

Pete, I agree. I think that they'll go after ammo. They'll try to classify 75% of the ammo out there as "cop killers". They'll find a way to take the guns or make them useless to have. Reloading gear would be a good purchase.

I feel that something like this would be very difficult to get passed.
just my .02

Quoted for concurrence.

Hell he just announced a boat load of funding for stupid shit...He will sink this country into an abyss where, if there are no zombies in the streets, there will at lest be a vast army of freeloaders waiting to have what you made with your blood sweat and tears.


Buy own and hide everything you can now...




And I am not a tinfoil hat dipshit.