jds4x43
08-13-2002, 03:50 PM
Ok I know I'm prolly gonna catch hell for this one but how did you guys who have swapped in Waggy 44's under a CJ convert the brake lines? The Waggy Brakes run a banjo style bolt which is undoubtedly better howerver the CJ engineers three years prior didn't think of this. Can I compile some sort of set of fittings to reduce the hole down to the size of my flare connection on my CJ or whats the common method to change this?
Thanks and Flame away I have a good fire extinguisher
CJ-Jeeper
08-13-2002, 05:39 PM
I'm guessing, since the Jeep in your sig is a '76 (which came with drum brakes), that you just need to buy flex lines for disk brake calipers (assuming the Waggy has disks). You have to give some info along with your question to get a real answer.
My '79 CJ lines bolt right up to Waggy or Chevy calipers.
What's the problem? My '75 has the same size flare fitting as your '76. The hard line is 3/16". I used Chevy pickup lines (78 1/2 ton 4x4) and they bolted right up to the hard lines. Chevy and Waggies used the same size calipers in the '70's, so the banjo fitting was perfect for Waggie calipers also.
Rudezuk
08-13-2002, 11:32 PM
Late 70's ford also used the same size calaper......it is a pretty standard banjo bolt and line!
WheelingPiazza
08-14-2002, 05:08 AM
Get new flexable lines and they will bolt to your existing hard lines, Go to a local junk yard and pull about 30 banjo bolts off a Chevy 4x4.
Depending on what calipers you have, Some chevys have a 3/8s head some have a 1/2 head.
I used all 1/2 head on mine because thats what was on teh calipers when I got them.
Oxjockey
08-14-2002, 06:57 AM
They're 7/16s, but the same thing applies. Don't drill out the najo fitting to accomodate the larger bolt, different year CJs used different size banjos, so just get the one from the year you need without reducing the fluid channel.
Bryan
WheelingPiazza
08-14-2002, 07:12 AM
purley a guess on my part, all I know is they were smaller then my 1/2 inch ones I pulled.
jds4x43
08-14-2002, 11:12 AM
Thanks for the help guys, I had thought about using the lines off of a chevy or ford truck but didn't know if maybe there was a way of keeping my longer stainless braided lines on the front.
Thanks Again
Also anybody have trouble with the frame twisting after they have outboarded their springs. I looked at this last night and thought the frame rails might tend to twist sideways after a period of time.
Thanks
Devil Dog
08-15-2002, 08:00 AM
uh... drill it out... its just a solid brass piece... and the hole for the banjo bolt is to small right????? so just drill the hole... so the banjo will fit.. i did this on mine..
if you dont feel like being a cheap bastard.. then you can buy some calipers from a 1980+ wagoneer.. they use the smaller.. cj size banjo's...
WheelingPiazza
08-15-2002, 11:04 AM
Frame twisting?
I took care of this by adding one of these.
4x4x.120 box, Welded. Plust my winch add support as well.
http://wheelingpiazzas.com/pictures/Outboard%20springs/57038397.jpg
Oxjockey
08-17-2002, 06:24 AM
Originally posted by Devil Dog
uh... drill it out... its just a solid brass piece... and the hole for the banjo bolt is to small right????? so just drill the hole... so the banjo will fit.. i did this on mine..
if you dont feel like being a cheap bastard.. then you can buy some calipers from a 1980+ wagoneer.. they use the smaller.. cj size banjo's...
I don't claim to be a brake expert, but when you drill it out, you're reducing the volume of the channel that feeds fluid to the bolt. It might not be about the volume, but it doesn't seem safe to me.
Why do this when CJs came with both 3/8" and 7/16" banjos, just pick the size you need - or the Chevy 1 ton hoses with the appropriate size for extended lines.
Bryan