I have been searching Pirate and various other sites looking for builts that cover the installation of the rear steer setup that Stazworks and POS sell, but have had little luck. I currently am running PSC ram assit in the front, that is supported by my Vanco Power boost system.

Originally I had planned using a electic over hydraulic pump to run the rear steer, but have been looking at options for adjusting my current sytem to work with the rear set up.

Is this possible, and if so what modification do I have to do to my existing set up.

In regards to Stazworks and POS, what are are the benifits of each system?

I have been searching Pirate and various other sites looking for builts that cover the installation of the rear steer setup that Stazworks and POS sell, but have had little luck. I currently am running PSC ram assit in the front, that is supported by my Vanco Power boost system.

Originally I had planned using a electic over hydraulic pump to run the rear steer, but have been looking at options for adjusting my current sytem to work with the rear set up.

Is this possible, and if so what modification do I have to do to my existing set up.

In regards to Stazworks and POS, what are are the benifits of each system?

I think that your pump split 2 ways is going to suck in tight spots and a second pump/rez would be a better option for rear steer. An electric motor would allow shorter lines and more mounting options IMHO. A few guys here run rear steer, but I dont just me thinking.

Rear steer is for Gay bastards that can't drive.

Rear steer is for Gay bastards that can't drive.

Sorry I cant hear you with that penis in your mouth :flipoff2:

Sorry I cant hear you with that penis in your mouth :flipoff2:


When you guys talk dirty like that, I get all excited! :D

When you guys talk dirty like that, I get all excited! :D

Its because I'm gay for your rear steer


:flipoff2:

I think that your pump split 2 ways is going to suck in tight spots and a second pump/rez would be a better option for rear steer. An electric motor would allow shorter lines and more mounting options IMHO. A few guys here run rear steer, but I dont just me thinking.

You using a saginaw steering box? like scout of chevy.

Only issue I could see is that p.s. pumps are desgined to deliver constant flow, not constant pressure. I don't think you could just t-off the pressure line. You'd have to go through the booster first, then the rear steering valve, then the power steering box.You might have to mod the pump. get the larger of the three saginaw pumps ( 1-ton hydroboosted K30) and crank it up. It'd probably do it.

You using a saginaw steering box? like scout of chevy.

Only issue I could see is that p.s. pumps are desgined to deliver constant flow, not constant pressure. I don't think you could just t-off the pressure line. You'd have to go through the booster first, then the rear steering valve, then the power steering box.You might have to mod the pump. get the larger of the three saginaw pumps ( 1-ton hydroboosted K30) and crank it up. It'd probably do it.

Yes, this is a Sagnaw steering box out of a 1978 Scout Traveler
The Power steering box is ported and being used in conjuction with the high flow PSC pump and Vanco Hydroboost.

The Vanco system I purchased, was bought with the understanding that I am running 1 ton axles. This is something that I need to look into further though.

Yes, this is a Sagnaw steering box out of a 1978 Scout Traveler
The Power steering box is ported and being used in conjuction with the high flow PSC pump and Vanco Hydroboost.

The Vanco system I purchased, was bought with the understanding that I am running 1 ton axles. This is something that I need to look into further though.

But he Vanco is braking not steering as far as I know. Two seperate issues. If you use the PSC with 2 rams at the same time you will run out of pressure. Maybe look at more of a control box for the rear instead.

But he Vanco is braking not steering as far as I know. Two seperate issues. If you use the PSC with 2 rams at the same time you will run out of pressure. Maybe look at more of a control box for the rear instead.

At this point I think that I will just stay with my plan to use a old tommy lift elec. over hydraulic pump.

At this point I think that I will just stay with my plan to use a old tommy lift elec. over hydraulic pump.

what about a snowplow pump/motor? alot more common and cheep to free used. you could buy new at any parts store in stock.

thats the issue we had when building a *gasp* cj on rockwells, deciding how to setup the rear steer.

We went with an electric/hydro pump. We bought one from grainger.

A big benefit to that electric pump is if we lose front steering, we can make it off the trail with rear steer...OR if we have catastrophic failure that we can still be towed out AND steer with the rear end. (dual battery's to keep the pump going)

We just used a grainger pump and a tractor supply ram in the back. We also originally ran a POS front setup, and lets just put it this way....after a few rides and failed pumps, we went to PSC (for the front setup). We wanted to have the best setup for us, to be in the front and save some money on the rear. But if your convinced on using a company that is specific to offroad needs, I'd suggest PSC for any/all steering components. But you can get away with a grainger pump and tractor supply ram in the rear and have a perfectly good setup.

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4NE16

I want to say that my buddy didn't pay as much as it was listed, I remember it being cheaper.

EDIT: we took off the toggle and wired it into a POS joystick

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4NE16

I want to say that my buddy didn't pay as much as it was listed, I remember it being cheaper.

EDIT: we took off the toggle and wired it into a POS joystick

How does this system work on off camber situation?

Are you satisfied by the response time, of this pump?

If you use the PSC with 2 rams at the same time you will run out of pressure.


What I see happening in my minds eye is if you use both front and rear at once running off the same pump only one axle is going to move. It will be the one with the least resistance at that point in time. Probably have to just use one at a time but big deal, unless your in a race....Rear steer is gay anyways.:flipoff2:

its actually fairly quick for an electric pump. The cj has been to a lot of the south east's hardest parks and trails. Its getting to the point where my buddy drives more with rear steer than the front, and there hasn't been anything to convince him to go another route as far as the pump. It makes a loud clunk when turning to one side (can't remember which sideBrainFart), but it has to do with the pressure relief...this is something that can be tuned though. We just haven't gotten around to it, b/c it works fine..just makes a clunk noise once the ram is either fully extended or compressed...but like i said, off the top of my head I can't remember if its compressed or extended that it makes the clunk. We have been happy.

My buddy drives it hard, has rolled it twice so far(build has only been done for 5 months)....really gets on it, loves the rear steer.

I helped a good bit on the build, mostly the fabrication...I left the majority of the mechanical aspect to my buddy, but I helped with the hydro plumbing front and rear. Lets put it this way, on a scale of 1-5 installing the pump is a .5. The routing of lines and mounting the pump is the hardest part, if you call that hard.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8470192&postcount=65 some pics


and here's the build thread
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=639376&highlight=

What I see happening in my minds eye is if you use both front and rear at once running off the same pump only one axle is going to move. It will be the one with the least resistance at that point in time. Probably have to just use one at a time but big deal, unless your in a race....Rear steer is gay anyways.:flipoff2:

True but it will still be trying to move both so it will slow everything down and work the pump like a MOFO doing it.