So now that i have all of my EBR's taken care of my next project is a reach out and touch em rifle. Im pretty sure i want it chambered in 308 but maybe there are other opinions out there. Ive been looking at a numerous remington 700 models as well as a few savage models. by budget for just rifle is about 700 otd with plans to change out stock, trigger maybe, and buy the best piece of glass i can afford. Im mostly looking at barrels longer than 20" and would like a heavy/bull barrel. looking to shoot out past 500 yards. what the deal is the savage as pimp as they say or is the 700 the safe bet??

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they both make great accurate rifle.. there is a ton of aftermarket for the 700's though compared to the savage's.. I just went through the same thing.. I ended up buying a remmy 700 sps tactical in .308 I will start from there.. got a good deal on it on gunbroker.. if you get the varmit model of the same rifle you get a longer barrel, I did not see the need for the longer barrel for me own use.. the deciding factor for me was the HUGE after market for the remington 700's both great rifles

With either platform what kind of ranges can i expect and with what barrel length. From what i belive a longer barrel will allow the round to stabilize better before leaving muzzle. I plan to shoot match grade as well as handloads. There has to be at some point the length of the barrel becomes a moot point. Im no "sniper" but i hope to learn over the years and be able to hit some shit "out far"

There is more for the 700, but there is stuff out there for the savage.
If you don't want to change stocks look for the tactical savage 10, I think the first post is the model.

I bought the model 10 with the wood stock and acutrigger. It is a great gun, shoots better than my buddys super shadow(300wsm) @100.

I but a bell&carlson medalist stock on it and am waiting for my new barrel, shilen select match stainless.( no taper, 28", 11* target crown).


I would get the savage and spend the savings on a better piece of glass.

With either platform what kind of ranges can i expect and with what barrel length. From what i belive a longer barrel will allow the round to stabilize better before leaving muzzle. I plan to shoot match grade as well as handloads. There has to be at some point the length of the barrel becomes a moot point. Im no "sniper" but i hope to learn over the years and be able to hit some shit "out far"

From everything I have read about over the years it is not so much about length in regards to accuracy.. more so Length effects velocity.. twist is more important for the grain bullet at a given barrel length..

either platform of a quality rifle will get you accurate distance shots.. you have to adjust for either platform.. I would take your questions over to a few of the sniper forums. there will be some very helpful people

My vote, FN SPR

I have an older Savage 110FP in 7mm rem mag. It is their tactical rifle. It shoots like Dustin s :laughing:. Unfortunately, I am not as steady as he is. :flipoff2:

It has a synthetic stock, a heavy barrel, target crown, and holds 4 + 1. I also have a sling, a Harris bipod and it is topped with a B&L Elite 3x9x50. Teh only things I have changed is I installed a pachmayr decelerator butt pad (I am a wimp) and a trigger job I did myself. I have shot deer just short of 400 yards out. At the range, it almost always puts them through a dime sized area.

Looks alot like this one(longer action, I think):
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sav_10fp2.jpg

I bought it for an elk hunt that never materialized, but it is SO accurate, that i have stuck with it. I shoot does in the head now and bucks in the top of the neck...

my .02...

How far out is .308 accurate to? Should I be looking at somthing else for long range flat trajectory.

the 308 can shoot out 800 to 1000 yards and more.. There are flatter shooting rounds, but it will cost you..if you have never done any distance shooting you have got a long way to go before you need to move into a "better round" the 308 is a awsome round..

What's everyone's opinion on the Mossberg 100 ATR "Night train" in .308?

What's everyone's opinion on the Mossberg 100 ATR "Night train" in .308?

Made in China is my first thought...

What's everyone's opinion on the Mossberg 100 ATR "Night train" in .308?

the ATR's I looked at in person looked very crude.. Never shot one though

How far out is .308 accurate to? Should I be looking at somthing else for long range flat trajectory.

.308s work ok out to 1k. they are far from the best but work. personally i wouldn't go shorter than 24" if you plan on shooting 1k regularly. some people get away with shorter barrels but you are walking fine line between supersonic and subsonic at 1k. the shorter barreled .308 often have key hole impacts on the targets on colder days. that is very bad for accuracy at that range. if you are planning on staying 500 yards and under, i'd be looking at a 20-22" to keep it "handy".

.308 is a great long range starter caliber. there is a good selection of factory match ammo and they are also pretty forgiving to hand loads. you will learn to read the wind better shooting a .308 at distance vs. some of the more slippery bullets out there.

.308s work ok out to 1k. they are far from the best but work. personally i wouldn't go shorter than 24" if you plan on shooting 1k regularly. some people get away with shorter barrels but you are walking fine line between supersonic and subsonic at 1k. the shorter barreled .308 often have key hole impacts on the targets on colder days. that is very bad for accuracy at that range. if you are planning on staying 500 yards and under, i'd be looking at a 20-22" to keep it "handy".

.308 is a great long range starter caliber. there is a good selection of factory match ammo and they are also pretty forgiving to hand loads. you will learn to read the wind better shooting a .308 at distance vs. some of the more slippery bullets out there.

bout time you chimed in:flipoff2:

and back to the remington vs. savage, they both can be very accurate out of the box. savage is starting to have some good aftermarket support. stocks are being inlet for them, drop mag kits are now available and chambered barrels can be user installed/headspaced. the savage is probably cheaper to get into and will shoot just as good as a remington. i didn't care for the feel of the savage action though. it was a bit crude in my opinion. the stock that came on my savage was such a piece of shit i never even shot with it. the choate stock was a big improvement if that says anything. you can get factory savages with mc millian or hs precision stocks now. that doesn't sound like a bad way to go to me.

best bet would be to pick them both up and cycle the actions. see for yourself what feels better. if one feels better, decide if the price difference is worth it to you. either on will shoot fine.

My vote, FN SPR

The new Model 70 is made in the same factory