But now I need to know how to move it. Its estimated to be between 2K and 3K pounds. Its got double swinging doors so its not small. Am I going to have to get a Bobcat to drag it or something???

It depends on where it's located. A forklift or even a pallet jack works well to get them in/out of buildings. Use rollers to get them into a close space. Simple machines work best, as you have better control over whats happening. Don't forget to level it with shims when you are done.

flat bed tow truck.
Thats how I moved mine, call around as some of them are used to moving them.

flat bed tow truck.
Thats how I moved mine, call around as some of them are used to moving them.

Thats a really good idea. My friend/ex-roomie has a international with a flatbed and winch. I'm gunna have to go take a look at this safe now for definate:evil:

Are you going to try and put it in the house? If you are not on a slab, that could end poorly.

Are you going to try and put it in the house? If you are not on a slab, that could end poorly.

Parents massive garage I'm remodeling

Are you going to try and put it in the house? If you are not on a slab, that could end poorly.

He might want to get some more cinder blocks before he moves it into his mobile home.:laughing:

He might want to get some more cinder blocks before he moves it into his mobile home.:laughing:

'tis a tornado anchor, honest!

I saw on Jimmy Kimmel's show where one of his guys buys old safes off of Ebay - kind of like a poor man's treasure hunting. They take them and blow then outside the studio. The guy hasn't found anything too cool - but it is pretty neat to watch howexcited the guy gets...

Thats a really good idea. My friend/ex-roomie has a international with a flatbed and winch. I'm gunna have to go take a look at this safe now for definate:evil:

get a shitload of 4' long 1" PVC pipe and roll the bitch into its final place.

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I passed on one like that. It was easily 3000 lbs and fireproof. I had no way of loading it or unloading it. To accomplish the whole task would have negated its freeness.:D

Torch it into 1/3rds and weld it back together. :flipoff2:

Torch it into 1/3rds and weld it back together. :flipoff2:

I don't think my welder do anything thicker than 3/4 unless I found some specialty welding rod

Torch it into 1/3rds and weld it back together. :flipoff2:

I don't think my welder do anything thicker than 3/4 unless I found some specialty welding rod

Drop in at a mon-n-pop jeweler and ask them who they use to move them. FYI - I talked to a guy around here who will move a safe like that and change the combination for $400. Good? Bad? I don't know, but that's an option.

skate dollies -- roller tank like wheels with a bearing swivel top. They use them to move heavy machines like big mills. You can probably rent some for the day cheaper than repairing a hernia. :mr-t:

Forearm Forklift:flipoff2:

http://www.forearmforklift.com/images/2006_photo_0000001.jpg

I own a delivery service, I usually get calls from people who allready tried to move them.lol it cost more when I have to dig them out of the drywall while they drop them going down stairs.lol

Seriously these things are heavy, and very hard to navigate unless you have the equipment.
I haven't agreed to move one in a couple years, beisdes my friends.

Forearm Forklift:flipoff2:

http://www.forearmforklift.com/images/2006_photo_0000001.jpg


:laughing::laughing::laughing:

So I dropped by and looked at the safe today. Its at ground level, no stairs, fits through doorway. Only problem. The safe is bigger than I thought it was. Its big enough for me to stand inside and only duck my head to the side. Double front doors with external pins, combo lock with unknown combo. Its an old New York Safe company model with wood interior. I'm gunna need to call around because no way my piano dollies will handle this beast. I need to figure out how to get it off the ground. I already have a 7K gross weight flatbed. I'm gunna probably make some calls tomorrow and ask some machine shops how they move their stuff and maybe even call a safe moving company. I couldn't budge it worth a lick

I need to figure out how to get it off the ground.

crow bars and wood or PVC dowels.
Pry up, place some "rollers", same to other side.

I have used these to move printing equipment.

Johnson Bar

http://www.douglasequipment.com/ImagesforCasters/HTrucks/c7_prybar.jpg

Yup, Jihnson bar and a pallet jack. I also have moved lots of printing equipment. The johnson bar is a key tool here. I had a broken handle on a johnson bar. A friend made me a handle from Osage Orange. I don't think it could ever possibly break.

Check with local safe co's if you do not want to do it yourself.

They move these things all the time and already have a flat bed capable to carry it. I looked at one similar to the one you are talking about and they were willing to move it for a couple hundred dollars. Heck they get them for "free" and resell them for money all the time because they know how to move them and not fawk anything up.

Check with local safe co's if you do not want to do it yourself.

They move these things all the time and already have a flat bed capable to carry it. I looked at one similar to the one you are talking about and they were willing to move it for a couple hundred dollars. Heck they get them for "free" and resell them for money all the time because they know how to move them and not fawk anything up.

Just did that. They wanted a minimum of $700 to do the job. I just got setup for a rental of a johnson bar, roll-a-lift(rated at 6K.lbs), and a lift gate hydraulic trailer(rated at 6K.lbs) for $170. I'm picking up the safe on Saturday

Happy Birthday/Christmas me!!!!!:p

Just did that. They wanted a minimum of $700 to do the job. I just got setup for a rental of a johnson bar, roll-a-lift(rated at 6K.lbs), and a lift gate hydraulic trailer(rated at 6K.lbs) for $170. I'm picking up the safe on Saturday

Happy Birthday/Christmas me!!!!!:p

You could also use golf balls to finish moving it into a corner or whatever.

Just did that. They wanted a minimum of $700 to do the job. I just got setup for a rental of a johnson bar, roll-a-lift(rated at 6K.lbs), and a lift gate hydraulic trailer(rated at 6K.lbs) for $170. I'm picking up the safe on Saturday

Happy Birthday/Christmas me!!!!!:p

Dang! that seems a little high. They are just pissed they didn't find it first. lol

I passed on one like that. It was easily 3000 lbs and fireproof. I had no way of loading it or unloading it. To accomplish the whole task would have negated its freeness.:D

Dude, find another one let me know.
I so want to get an old huge safe.
All I am finding on CL is stuff thats barely waste high.

Just did that. They wanted a minimum of $700 to do the job. I just got setup for a rental of a johnson bar, roll-a-lift(rated at 6K.lbs), and a lift gate hydraulic trailer(rated at 6K.lbs) for $170. I'm picking up the safe on Saturday

Happy Birthday/Christmas me!!!!!:p

Pics or said safe doesn't exist

Dude, find another one let me know.
I so want to get an old huge safe.
All I am finding on CL is stuff thats barely waste high.

This one had a pretty solid divider in the middle, too. It would have been tough to retrofit to a long gun safe. I'll be on the lookout for you. I've been tempted to pour one in my basement........steel reinforced concrete room would be nice. I figured that 10'x10' should do it. The door would be the tough part.

edit: This could work
edit 2: $2245 :eek:

http://www.safeathomeusa.com/default.aspx?cid=ev5CX/hMiyU=

Dude, find another one let me know.
I so want to get an old huge safe.
All I am finding on CL is stuff thats barely waste high.

I've been searching for about a month. It was actually listed as a "vault", which really what it is. Like doc said most people with a safe this big are trying to get rid of it and don't like the big price tag, so they give it away There is another one here semi-local and about half the size in not as good condition for about $400. I bet I could get it for $250-300. It would be very easy to move I think. If you want I can look at it and get some measurements over to you and ship it out to ya if the price is right for you
All other safes I saw were specifically "gun" safes and the people want $400-1500 for them, which I felt was silly given my budget. This safe is a million times better than any gun safe under probably $3K. I'm sure doc will attest the same about his as well

Pics or said safe doesn't exist

I didn't have my phone with me the day I looked at it. I'll post up pics Saturday after I get it home.

Pics as promised. I'm still amazed at how big it is and that it was basically free, just shy of the $200 I dropped on moving tools

Okay for reference. I'm 6'4"

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When we got the safe out the front door we proceeded down the side walk the the concrete gave way and put the front wheels into some mud. Luckily our 5 ft. johnson bar got us out. As you can see we were happy again
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Some of our straps were waaay under weight but we added them just for extra mental security. BTW The new toyota tundra pulls like a beast
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The safe is now resting in my parents garage till I get their garage finished out and my gun area setup

Fuckin A that thing's a beast. Specifically, what tools did you use to move it beside a J-bar?

A roll-a-lift. This thing supports 6K .lbs

http://www.skarnesonline.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000004/m6-pair-full.jpg

and a lift gate trailer. which drops down flush to the ground

I want one. Nice score!

Dude, find another one let me know.
I so want to get an old huge safe.
All I am finding on CL is stuff thats barely waste high.


i will ask a buddy of mine, his uncle is a older safe installer/cracker/mover/dealer

Double front doors with external pins, combo lock with unknown combo.

So you don't have the ability to open it if you lock it:confused:

So you don't have the ability to open it if you lock it:confused:

I pulled the locking mechanism partially apart last night and figured out the combo. Priest is sending me a lock key so I can set the numbers to what I want

Thats a big safe and a great score for a gun safe but from the size of the doors it wont have a long fire rating. I have a safe in my other home "used to be a business many yrs ago" that is about 5' tall, 4' wide and 4' deep that was used for holding money. It has outer doors with a combo lock that are a good 12" thick and a set if inner doors with a key lock that are at least 6" thick. How much it weighs i dont know, they actually built the concrete building around it. I also have another safe on wheels that is about 4' tall, 2 1/2' deep and 3' wide and the doors on that are about 4" thick. Damn thing weighs at least 2k lbs and is almost imposible to roll around by oneself. It is junk and going for scrap, combo was smashed off it in an effort to break in it. My father and a friend of his opened it by flipping it upside down, they were told some safes had gravity locks and this one did. All they found was loose change and misc papers of no value.

i insisted I get what we called baby bear when we closed our Jewelry Store in 2007. The Black Marks are from my stinger i made manipulating it in my garage. Moving it was a combination of many tactics. I love mine and consider it one of my prized posessions. Built 1892 :)

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l243/schaanman/IMG_1015.jpg

ill move some things around and show the multiple layers woodchuck was speaking of.


this is baby bear, my father has PaPa Bear in his Garage and we sold MaMa at auction as it was nearly new.


ive been spinning those tumblers since i was 12 ;)

I saw on Jimmy Kimmel's show where one of his guys buys old safes off of Ebay - kind of like a poor man's treasure hunting. They take them and blow then outside the studio. The guy hasn't found anything too cool - but it is pretty neat to watch howexcited the guy gets...


Wait what? :confused:

call a safe mover? :confused:

thats what my uncle does :D

Wait what? :confused:

yeah, what he said !

call a safe mover? :confused:

thats what my uncle does :D

I actually got pretty good at moving safes. I can move the safe across the garage in about 4 minutes by myself. its also considerably lighter now that its gutted. It will be re-filled with concrete in about 3 weeks :smokin:

So I've been waay behind on projects and funds for awhile but I've got the ball rolling again and done some learning along the way.

So I gutted the safe completely after attempting to pull out the pine boards and not damage the fireproofing.

To re-line and re-fireproof the safe I decided to use concrete. To cut down on interior bracing and make the safe look beefier from the outside I drilled through the 3/16" plate steel and tack welded some 1/2" carriage bolts in symmetrical patters

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In this picture you can see the pipe I installed so I can bolt this beast to the floor. I drilled and welded 6" pipe nipples to the floor prior to pouring 3" of concrete for the floor. You can also see the bolts I welded in.

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Here I installed J-box by welding it in and notching the forms. Purpose being so that I can run electricity to the lights that will be installed

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These are the forms almost put completely together. The forms will end up staying and I'm going to either cut off the bolts and nuts flush or cut the fireboard and wood flooring/paneling to fit around it.

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It probably wasn't necessary to install reinforcement ladder to walls but I did it just to be safe. I tack welded it in so I wouldn't have to adjust it constantly during the pouring process

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The forms had more flex to them than I anticipated so after pouring 1 bag concrete I cut and hammered in some form reinforcements

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In both corners I set the forms up to work with each other so I placed some reinforcement blocks and form limiters. They prevented the back form from flexing at the sides

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I only poured 320.lbs of concrete and estimate I'll need probably another 800-1000.lbs to finish. I still haven't figured out how I'm gunna do the ceiling, so I'm gunna cross that bridge when I get to it

I only poured 320.lbs of concrete and estimate I'll need probably another 800-1000.lbs to finish. I still haven't figured out how I'm gunna do the ceiling, so I'm gunna cross that bridge when I get to it

Turn it upside down!

Turn it upside down!

You kid, but I've done it. I think it was about 8 yards per skid that we were building.

I only poured 320.lbs of concrete and estimate I'll need probably another 800-1000.lbs to finish. I still haven't figured out how I'm gunna do the ceiling, so I'm gunna cross that bridge when I get to it

Should have used lightweight to begin with but it isn't too late to switch. Make a form in the lid and drill a hole through it. Pour in lightweight from the too. Weld up the hole.

So yesterday I finally decided to get the hard part of my safe project finished. I ran conduit so i can change out the power cord if need be. I finished building out the forms and mixed up 18 1/2 bags of concrete. Busy day.

Notice the cutting disk stuck in the duck work insulation? I didn't even notice it there till I saw the picture. It shot itself up there when I had a disk break on me while cutting out the ceiling last time I worked on it. The other half almost cut my finger off
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These next two are the forms for the ceiling
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These last two are before and after concrete pouring, which was done through the ceiling.
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I'll probably weld up the ceiling tomorrow once the concrete all cures. Then I gotta cut out the reinforcement nuts and lay in the wood paneling and lighting. i'm going to be shopping ebay for some LED strip lights in the low profile flavor. Some street glow might even work, but I gotta see what prices will run

Did you weld in anchors in the ceiling for the concrete to hold on to?

But now I need to know how to move it. Its estimated to be between 2K and 3K pounds. Its got double swinging doors so its not small. Am I going to have to get a Bobcat to drag it or something???

as in you get to keep it and possibly it wasn't cleaned out before your inheritance?

Did you weld in anchors in the ceiling for the concrete to hold on to?

Nope, just used wire ladder for reinforcement. Once I weld the ceiling plates back in, I may drill through them and put a few anchors in just for extra reinforcement

as in you get to keep it and possibly it wasn't cleaned out before your inheritance?

Might wanna check the date on that first post ;)

Drop in at a mon-n-pop jeweler and ask them who they use to move them. FYI - I talked to a guy around here who will move a safe like that and change the combination for $400. Good? Bad? I don't know, but that's an option.

How fast can he do it?:D

Might wanna check the date on that first post ;)

yeah...... Just noticed that :(