: F-Toy 508 build thread
shawnboymoody 12-10-2008, 06:43 PM O.K. First off my name is Shawn Moody, I'm from Charleston S.C. I picked up F-Toy #508 from my buddy "Trollporter" who was planning on throwing some rockwells under it with a 350/465/205 combo. He decided to go a different direction and put his old Blazer back together and sold it to me. He originally bought the F-Toy from "Superpile" on here who had it just about finished and quit on it due to some sponsor issues. I am planning on going with an all yota drive train from my 90 truggy. It is four linked so it wont be legal for comps. So.....here goes nothing.
shawnboymoody 12-11-2008, 04:34 PM Alright here is 508 as I received it from Troy.
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j164/shawnboymoody/F-Toyfuild011.jpg
Chassis cut off of the old frame.
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Loaded up ready to take to the house.
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shawnboymoody 12-11-2008, 04:36 PM Took the the old truck down and had it weighed before starting the tear down. BTW pay no attention to the dates on the pics. Camera battery died and I forgot to program the date.
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shawnboymoody 12-11-2008, 04:39 PM Started cutting the exo off......
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MT4Runner 12-11-2008, 07:01 PM ...I got SN 508 rollin yesterday (looks sick on 42 iroks on the h1 wheels) and as soon as I get the DUI distrubter it will be running on propane, just gotta get the seats and floor in, dshafts, ram, etc. See you at the Jellico event to cheer you and the other ftoys on.
... He originally bought the F-Toy from "Superpile" on here who had it just about finished and quit on it due to some sponsor issues. ...
Wow! :eek: Crazy to think it was nearing completion, torn apart, almost went over a Chevy drivetrain on Rocks, then back closer to Plan A. :eek:
Thanks for starting a build thread--looking forward to seeing where you go with it. Your 90 truggy was fairly light!!
Jeep07 12-11-2008, 07:12 PM Wow! :eek: Crazy to think it was nearing completion, torn apart, almost went over a Chevy drivetrain on Rocks, then back closer to Plan A. :eek:
Thanks for starting a build thread--looking forward to seeing where you go with it. Your 90 truggy was fairly light!!
Yeah here is a pick from when superpile had it. Man they did strip it down to bare bones. Not trying to junk your build thread, I figure this is part of the history of the chassis :)
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Looking forward to seeing the rig completed and wheeling.
shawnboymoody 12-11-2008, 07:19 PM Not trying to junk your build thread, I figure this is part of the history of the chassis :)
No problem at all.
shawnboymoody 12-11-2008, 07:25 PM Thanks for starting a build thread--looking forward to seeing where you go with it. Your 90 truggy was fairly light!!
You really think so? I was surprised when I weighed it, I thought it was gonna be lighter than it was.
shawnboymoody 12-11-2008, 07:30 PM Pulled it into the shop and started cutting her up.
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shawnboymoody 12-11-2008, 07:36 PM Had some buddies come over and they helped me get the cab off the frame.
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mtbrjon 12-12-2008, 08:54 AM Cool. Nice to see this come out of hiding. Welcome!
Ya'll have heard of "Cow tipping" how about "Cab tipping". Bet that was fun.:D
Keep the info and pics coming.
You need to reconsider the links. The leafs are almost as good and you'll have a rig that can legally compete and one that will be appealing to more people should you ever decide to sell. Just my .02.
desertoy 12-12-2008, 09:33 AM I agree with Jon. A comp legal F-Toy will sell faster and for the same money as a linked F-Toy. They don't perform that much better after you link them either.
Keep the build thread going. You got a good start.
MT4Runner 12-12-2008, 01:04 PM http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j164/shawnboymoody/F-Toybuild025.jpg
This has the potential to be a really fast build!! :Eek:
noflyzone 12-12-2008, 01:43 PM This has the potential to be a really fast build!! :Eek:
That's what I thought....
subscribed.
shawnboymoody 12-12-2008, 03:58 PM You need to reconsider the links. The leafs are almost as good and you'll have a rig that can legally compete and one that will be appealing to more people should you ever decide to sell. Just my .02.
I see where you are coming from on this and I have thought about going back to leafs but I must say that the four link works AMAZING! Especially in a rock garden type situation. Plus no axle wrap. I love it.
The only negative about the four link is that I have quite a bit of body roll while turning. It kinda irritates me sometimes, but damn it works in the rocks!
shawnboymoody 12-12-2008, 04:14 PM Here are some more pics. Set the chassis down on the frame. I just had to climb up in there and see how it feels.:)
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j164/shawnboymoody/F-Toybuild028.jpg
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mtbrjon 12-13-2008, 04:06 AM I see where you are coming from on this and I have thought about going back to leafs but I must say that the four link works AMAZING! Especially in a rock garden type situation. Plus no axle wrap. I love it.
The only negative about the four link is that I have quite a bit of body roll while turning. It kinda irritates me sometimes, but damn it works in the rocks!
Use the correct springs, proper shackle angle, and an anti-wrap bar and you will be equally amazed. Have you wheeled with anyone in a comp Ftoy?
When and where were these pics actually taken cuz I don't know anywhere around here where I could have been wearing shorts and a t-shirt right now? You must be way south?
shawnboymoody 12-13-2008, 05:06 AM Use the correct springs, proper shackle angle, and an anti-wrap bar and you will be equally amazed. Have you wheeled with anyone in a comp Ftoy?
When and where were these pics actually taken cuz I don't know anywhere around here where I could have been wearing shorts and a t-shirt right now? You must be way south?
Charleston, S.C. Mind you these pics were from September. It was like 72 degrees one day this week though!
I have seen 507 up the Gulches a couple times. Haven't actually wheeled "with" him though.
ftoy507 12-13-2008, 01:59 PM PM me if you would like to see it in action. If the brown santa shows up this week I will be at Gulches next weekend. I will beat the crap out of it for you. If you would like you can beat on it too.
I also have several obstacles on my property in chapin. always good for a little night wheelin' with a few cool ones.
mtbrjon 12-13-2008, 05:17 PM Go hang out with Wes for a day before you go much further with your build. His rig works well and is a good example of the amount of torture that a comp ready Ftoy will endure.:D
We want you to be legal to compete even if you don't think you want to right now.:D
That's our personal adgenda but I understand not wanting to cut off the links. Keep it going you will love it either way.
blazinchuck 12-13-2008, 07:46 PM I wouldn't sweat the leaf spring and resale value(that 4 link works)...it's not that hard to cut off some link tabs, and weld in the leaf hangers(later)...but, you already knew that bro! That shit looks good Moody!:smokin:
shawnboymoody 12-14-2008, 08:48 AM PM me if you would like to see it in action. If the brown santa shows up this week I will be at Gulches next weekend. I will beat the crap out of it for you. If you would like you can beat on it too.
I also have several obstacles on my property in chapin. always good for a little night wheelin' with a few cool ones.
Awful kind of you Wes I may just have to take you up on that offer one day. Chapin is great little town. My wife, son, and I enjoy camping over at Dreher Island state park. Maybe I could ride up there one weekend and get a closer look at your F-Toy.
MT4Runner 12-14-2008, 09:25 AM That's our personal adgenda but I understand not wanting to cut off the links. Keep it going you will love it either way.
I wouldn't sweat the leaf spring and resale value(that 4 link works)...it's not that hard to cut off some link tabs, and weld in the leaf hangers(later)...but, you already knew that bro! That shit looks good Moody!:smokin:
Not hard to weld on a couple spring hangers and just leave your link subframe in there. Use one of your upper mounts to attach a traction bar! :laughing:
Try it both ways--you're moving along quickly--you've got time! ha ha!
ftoy507 12-14-2008, 03:19 PM Awful kind of you Wes I may just have to take you up on that offer one day. Chapin is great little town. My wife, son, and I enjoy camping over at Dreher Island state park. Maybe I could ride up there one weekend and get a closer look at your F-Toy.
Any time.
We like Dreher Island also. Right now James Island is our favorite close spot. We were there over Thanksgiving.
shawnboymoody 12-14-2008, 06:01 PM Plucked drivetrain and pressure washed the frame. Cut the engine mounts off the frame and moved them back eight inches. Rewelded. Slipped the engine, tranny and transfer cases back in.
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blazinchuck 12-14-2008, 06:12 PM dem some purdy welds :goofball:
shawnboymoody 12-14-2008, 06:24 PM Went ahead and pulled the engine out one more time. Decided to swap my old forward shift tranny for a W-56 and top shift case. Swapped everything out and reinstalled the engine, tranny and t-cases for the last time.
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shawnboymoody 12-14-2008, 06:28 PM Built some kickers and scab plates to mount the chassis to the frame.
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shawnboymoody 12-14-2008, 06:30 PM Cut the back of the frame down to match the chassis length.
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shawnboymoody 12-14-2008, 06:35 PM This is what I came up with for a crossmember/link mount. Fabbed it from 2"x4"x1/4 rectangular tubing. Scabbed to the frame with 1/4" plate.
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shawnboymoody 12-14-2008, 06:44 PM My buddy King whipped up a rear hoop for the buggy.
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j164/shawnboymoody/Ftoy004-1.jpg
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shawnboymoody 12-14-2008, 06:47 PM Cut up and modified my old BudBuilt crossmember and made some new mounts.
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j164/shawnboymoody/Ftoy002-1.jpg
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shawnboymoody 12-14-2008, 06:49 PM Got started on the floor and firewall. Went with 16 gauge steel for the floor and firewall.
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shawnboymoody 12-14-2008, 06:53 PM Modified the Bud's Cross member further by adding a section to mount the Hendrix carrier bearing to. Went ahead and painted it up as well.:smokin:
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shawnboymoody 12-14-2008, 06:55 PM Fabbed up my tailight panel. Pretty pleased with it.
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shawnboymoody 12-14-2008, 07:00 PM Fabbed up a radiator mount and welded the winch plate in place. Slipped in a piece of expanded steel to protect the radiator.
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That pretty much brings yall up to speed with the build.:smokin:
shawnboymoody 12-14-2008, 07:03 PM Well there are a couple more pics. I couldn't stand it any more and hot wired the damn thing so I could try it out.:grinpimp:
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j164/shawnboymoody/F-Toy006.jpg
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blazinchuck 12-14-2008, 07:08 PM I bet that was a helluva feeling to pimp that shit around the yard!!! I remember the truggy almost flopping on that pipe, the F-toy looks pretty stable on there. Keep it up ShawnBoy!!:grinpimp:
shawnboymoody 12-14-2008, 07:13 PM I bet that was a helluva feeling to pimp that shit around the yard!!! I remember the truggy almost flopping on that pipe, the F-toy looks pretty stable on there. Keep it up ShawnBoy!!:grinpimp:
Yeah it feels quite a bit more stable than the truggy. I like it.
Jeep07 12-14-2008, 08:00 PM Nice!. Hey how well have those single shear upper link mounts held up or are they new or was that temporary?
RE:Todd 12-14-2008, 10:16 PM Looks great. What are you doing with the front end around the winch? BTW, make your t-case/BudBuilt bolts a 1/4 inch longer, should have 1-2 threads above the ny-lock.
johnpaulgolf 12-15-2008, 07:15 AM That's one BadeA F-toy there shawnboy!!! :smokin:
Can't wait to see it in action...keep on keepin on!!! :cookie:
mtbrjon 12-15-2008, 07:34 AM What springs you got up front? Looks like you got WAY more flex in rear than in front. Thinking if those are the same leafs you had in the cab truck you may have to soften them up a little since you don't have near the weight up front now.
blazinchuck 12-15-2008, 08:12 AM Nice!. Hey how well have those single shear upper link mounts held up or are they new or was that temporary?
those upper links were mounted to the old crossmember(which is gone) so those would be temporary. we wouldn't run no stuff like that and expect it to hold up,C'mon.
Jeep07 12-15-2008, 02:06 PM those upper links were mounted to the old crossmember(which is gone) so those would be temporary. we wouldn't run no stuff like that and expect it to hold up,C'mon.
Well I agree but you never know what some one may consider adequate..
Build looks good.
shawnboymoody 12-15-2008, 06:21 PM Looks great. What are you doing with the front end around the winch? BTW, make your t-case/BudBuilt bolts a 1/4 inch longer, should have 1-2 threads above the ny-lock.
Not sure what I'm doing in the front yet. Probably something like what Hendrix sells I guess. I know the bolts are too short, I swiped them from work and have been meaning to bring some longer ones home and swap them out.:D
shawnboymoody 12-15-2008, 06:33 PM What springs you got up front? Looks like you got WAY more flex in rear than in front. Thinking if those are the same leafs you had in the cab truck you may have to soften them up a little since you don't have near the weight up front now.
Yeah, those springs are temporary. They are actually a set of superlift springs I had laying around. I have been bending up a set of springs every third or fourth trip (need bumpstops). Been through a set of Marlins and a set of Trail-Gears in the last little while. Always seem to bend up the passenger side too. Hell for a while there I was running one Marlin and one Trailgear. Now they are all used up.
However, I would expect WAY more flex out of a four link w/coils than from a set of leafs wouldn't you?
shawnboymoody 12-15-2008, 06:37 PM There is still a ton of work to do on this thing!
MT4Runner 12-15-2008, 08:00 PM However, I would expect WAY more flex out of a four link w/coils than from a set of leafs wouldn't you?
Depends on the coils!!! :flipoff2:
There is still a ton of work to do on this thing!
Yeah..but now that it's wheelable, you'll never get it done! :laughing:
shawnboymoody 12-15-2008, 08:33 PM Yeah..but now that it's wheelable, you'll never get it done! :laughing:
Thats so true.:D
ftoy507 12-15-2008, 08:39 PM Make sure to PM me before you go to any trails or events within a few hours of Columbia.
Looks real good.
You swiped them from work? As fast as you are building this thing I thought you were independently wealthy and did not work.
johnpaulgolf 12-18-2008, 09:02 AM any updates on this?:smokin:
mtbrjon 12-18-2008, 10:01 AM Yeah, those springs are temporary. They are actually a set of superlift springs I had laying around. I have been bending up a set of springs every third or fourth trip (need bumpstops). Been through a set of Marlins and a set of Trail-Gears in the last little while. Always seem to bend up the passenger side too. Hell for a while there I was running one Marlin and one Trailgear. Now they are all used up.
However, I would expect WAY more flex out of a four link w/coils than from a set of leafs wouldn't you?
I would search for some semblance of balance between the front and rear. I have seen lots of cool leaf sprung rigs go links in the rear and actually wheel worse than before. 5" TG's need a couple leafs removed and bumpstops properly placed to function properly for any length of time. The best way to figure this stuff out is get it together and wheel it. It will let you know what needs to be changed.:D
noflyzone 01-05-2009, 07:26 AM This thread is due for an update. It has slipped down to the bottom of my subscribed thread list.
Shawn - Chuck told me to check this thread out. Your project is coming along great! Hopefully I'll have my Bronco done soon and we'll get to beat them up together on the trails.
Robert
shawnboymoody 01-18-2009, 05:46 PM Got the dash and guage panel done. Nothing wired in yet.
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shawnboymoody 01-18-2009, 05:48 PM Shawn - Chuck told me to check this thread out. Your project is coming along great! Hopefully I'll have my Bronco done soon and we'll get to beat them up together on the trails.
Robert
Hey Robert thanks for checking out my shitbox. Looking forward to wheeling with you again.
Jeep07 01-18-2009, 06:16 PM Nice and Clean. I like that a lot.. Makes me wanna redo my dash area.
jollygrngiant 01-19-2009, 05:21 PM Moody, that thing has come a long way. Looks pretty Sweet!!
Keep us updated. What gauges did you use?
Sorry Tony's runna didn't work out for you.
ftoy507 01-19-2009, 09:57 PM What type of toggles did you use? Are they linked to a relay.
Just curious. I used no relays and ate a lot of toggles until recently. The toggles i found at Home Depot have a seal at the base of the "bat". Very similar to the red seal on yours. They have held up much better. I am sure they would do even better with a relay.
MT4Runner 01-20-2009, 08:37 AM Fawker, you stole my steering wheel! :flipoff2:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=415747&stc=1&d=1232330396
shawnboymoody 02-24-2009, 05:53 PM For Sale. Check it out under "Formula Toys for sale and wanted" thread.
Jeep07 02-24-2009, 06:29 PM Got any current pics?
shawnboymoody 02-24-2009, 06:39 PM Got any current pics?
Looks about the same as it did on the previous page, with the exception of the passenger floor and seat being installed.
shawnboymoody 03-22-2009, 06:34 PM Sold. Thanks Mike and Misty. Hope you enjoy it.
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