ok, so ive been pricing low ratio geer sets for the 20, (about $800) and pricing atlas (1200 and change thru hicks)
then last night i remembered the cold duck setup ($1100) and thought to my self this might be the way to go... it would get me a 6.05:1 in double low, but give me more flexability in gear choices.. esp if down the road i did drop in a 4:1 kit (10.48 in double low)
now.. the problem... i have a scout (pass drop) not a ford (driver drop) does any one know if this will still work? does any one know of another kit out there?

This is the response i got from wild horses 4x4:
"Brian,
You can put anything in any vechile, just knowing what to use is the answer.
I could not tell you how that would work, or how to make it work. (sorry)

Thanks,
Johnny.

Johnny Rose
Wild Horses 4x4
Phone: 209.943.0991
E-Mail: jrose@wildhorses4x4.com "

kinda sounded like a cop-out...they wernt able to give me any info that wasnt on the web site, or any better pics ...

No, Scout and Jeep Dana 20's have a different bolt pattern and a different input configuration than Bronco D20's.

I would not want a Dana 20 as the 2nd case in any kind of doubled setup behind a V8.

Hey DAN, run a quick search. There have been a lot of threads on the topic of dual case, cold ducks, Tera kits, Heep 300's etc.

The answer was a result of an open ended question. Yes you could run the CD, but start looking for drivers side diff 44/60

Joe

well thru some searching on other boards i found mr. scout in oragone, he produces a "creeper box" a set of scout 20's stacked. and i have found upgraded ouput shafts etc.. so i guess thanks...

Last I heard the Mr. Scout creeper box goes for $1800 and 32 spline rear outputs go for $400. Makes the Atlas II sound better, doesn't it.

That creaper box would be great but the :eek: price is just to much when you consider a divorced 205 can be found for little to nothing, add some scrap steel, a carrier bearing with junkyard driveshafts, hack or clock the D20, fab a linkage, and you have your duals...crazy to spend that much on two dana 20's mated together... :rolleyes:

Course if you don't like to do your own work or money is no object the creaper box might be cool for you.....but if money wasn't the problem I'd have a built-to-be-a-torque-monster fuel injected 460/C6/203/205 doubler at the end of the magic drivetrain...feeding narrowed and turned, OX or electric locker, 35 spline HP D60's front and rear with 4.56's and 38" + TSL/SX's....

Oops...got off topic....gotta stop drooling on the keyboard...

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A good weekend to all......

Originally posted by YellowIH
...HP D60's front and rear...
Why in the hell would you want to put a HP in the rear.... especially if you were building a "built to be a torque monster" drivetrain? Hmmmm.... let's put a reverse cut set of gears in the rear end so they can drive against the coast side of the teeth....yeah, yeah, that's it... :rolleyes:

does anyone have pics of a cut off dana 20 with a divorced 205? I have been kicking this idea around but i would like some input if possible.

Originally posted by TORC

Why in the hell would you want to put a HP in the rear.... especially if you were building a "built to be a torque monster" drivetrain? Hmmmm.... let's put a reverse cut set of gears in the rear end so they can drive against the coast side of the teeth....yeah, yeah, that's it... :rolleyes:


That way when I back up stuff my rear end won't be as likely to blow up.....damn vultures.... :rolleyes:



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Originally posted by yoter
does anyone have pics of a cut off dana 20 with a divorced 205? I have been kicking this idea around but i would like some input if possible.


I have some of Dooley Pula's setup as you describe but I need to scan them.....and find them after I unpack from the move to the new house....

He cut the D20 from the side of the shift rail to the bottom of the t/c pan diagonally and left about 3 inches or so of t/c oil pan..then he welded a plate over the cut portion. He ran the linkage to the NP205 through the hole for the outside shift rail and a driveshaft on a carrier bearing to the stock front driveshaft location.... hope that helps some...:flipoff2:

Originally posted by T1H5_TA3


Phone: 209.943.0991


Call that number again and talk to Gary or Ryan in the back..skip the sales guys up front.. Im not sure if gary or ryan know about the differences between the scout 20 and bronco 20's, but its worth a shot.

Originally posted by YellowIH



That way when I back up stuff my rear end won't be as likely to blow up.....damn vultures....

Go back and read your own sig line.... (Here's a little help: Common sense must prevail :rolleyes: )
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :flipoff2:

I have some of Dooley Pula's setup as you describe but I need to scan them.....and find them after I unpack from the move to the new house....

He cut the D20 from the side of the shift rail to the bottom of the t/c pan diagonally and left about 3 inches or so of t/c oil pan..then he welded a plate over the cut portion. He ran the linkage to the NP205 through the hole for the outside shift rail and a driveshaft on a carrier bearing to the stock front driveshaft location.... hope that helps some...



that would be greatly appreciated. let me know when you get a chance to dig them out.

Originally posted by YellowIH



I have some of Dooley Pula's setup as you describe but I need to scan them.....and find them after I unpack from the move to the new house....

He cut the D20 from the side of the shift rail to the bottom of the t/c pan diagonally and left about 3 inches or so of t/c oil pan..then he welded a plate over the cut portion. He ran the linkage to the NP205 through the hole for the outside shift rail and a driveshaft on a carrier bearing to the stock front driveshaft location.... hope that helps some...:flipoff2:

I've been searchin today... :D

Yellow, do you have those pics handy after all this time?

The Mr. scout box isnt 2 stacked 20's. Its just a bunch of 20 parts inside a custom 1/2 inch thick case. 1800 is for the 3.17 ratio. its 2100 for the 4.6 or whatever. I had the sales flyer around but I think my dog ate it. I like the 203/205 doubler idea. It gives the front drive shaft less angle and still leaves the rear end in good shape. I'd love to cut up a 20 for fun though.

They are here in my desk drawer but no scanner...no scanning yet....

Originally posted by YellowIH
They are here in my desk drawer but no scanner...no scanning yet....

Do you have a digital camera? You can just take a closeup pic too.

I have a couple of cases to burn through, but it was be great if I could use your pics as a baseline.

Tell you what, I will try and scan them for you tonight.....I just need to staple this sticky note to my forehead....

I'll try and do it asap for you...I've been asked several times for these pics...its the least I can do.

Originally posted by binderbound
The Mr. scout box isnt 2 stacked 20's. Its just a bunch of 20 parts inside a custom 1/2 inch thick case. 1800 is for the 3.17 ratio. its 2100 for the 4.6 or whatever. I had the sales flyer around but I think my dog ate it. I like the 203/205 doubler idea. It gives the front drive shaft less angle and still leaves the rear end in good shape. I'd love to cut up a 20 for fun though.

Do you know what dl mods are necessary with the addition of the Mr. Scout box?? It looks better to me every day.

I don't know how you would go about finding them, but I am positive pics of a cut up 20 were posted on the BB a whule ago

Originally posted by YellowIH
Tell you what, I will try and scan them for you tonight.....I just need to staple this sticky note to my forehead....

I'll try and do it asap for you...I've been asked several times for these pics...its the least I can do.

Time keeps on ticken, ticken, ticken... Into the future. :D

DUUUUUUUUDE...

The suspense is killing me...come'on YellowIH :confused: heellllloooo....

I hope that staple in your forehead is not infecting your brain...

Maybe I should just mail these pics to one of you guys......

Finals are over in just a few days.....patience.... :D

The measure of a man is not in the promises he makes but in the ones he keeps.......I'm falling a little short right now aren't I....

Soon....

Well...I kept my promise.


Go get you some.......HERE (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=144391).

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Anyone ever run a D20 behind a D18? Grind the gears on the D18 so the output spins freely. Kinda acts as a carrier bearing. I had an adapter to divorce mount the D20 but an NP205 could work.