everything is unbolted. it's 2" apart all around. and i even tried pulling it with another truck. shaked it left and right while pulling on it and the fawker will not come out.

anyone have any other suggestions?

hey did you take your shifters out?

Originally posted by yota81
hey did you take your shifters out?


YES everything is off no shifters no tranny to engine bolts and it has a 2" gap all araound the tranny.

How are you supporting the engine? Is it hanging up on the tranny tunnel at the firewall??

Those are good questions thus far, but, the main question for this application is, HOW BIG OF A HAMMER AND PRYBAR ARE YOU USING?????

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:D

is it normal for it to be this hard to get out?

bell housing bolts, starter, shifters, slave cylinder, drive shafts, cross member, speedo cable, back up lights wire, vent hose if you have one, lower the back of trans a bit, pull out.

it sounds like you have somthing wierd going on or just over looked something easy. i know i have forgot the speedo cable a couple of times.
did you explode the clutch or something? maybe the peices are jamming things.

Originally posted by hawaii500_1999
bell housing bolts, starter, shifters, slave cylinder, drive shafts, cross member, speedo cable, back up lights wire, vent hose if you have one, lower the back of trans a bit, pull out.

it sounds like you have somthing wierd going on or just over looked something easy. i know i have forgot the speedo cable a couple of times.
did you explode the clutch or something? maybe the peices are jamming things.

well i have all the above off and what happened if that my first tranny went out. i got an extra tranny with the truck so i decided to put it in well the first tranny came out easy but when i put the second tranny in it was a bit difficult wouldn't mate to well and i closed comepleatly by the bolts.(tighting the bolts)i even broke the cast iron support bracket on the right sidestarted it up heard a wired noise then it settled. tried to put it in first gear but it wouldn't the clutch was not funtionning. now i try to take it out to look at it and won't come out.

maybe something in the pressure plate.
can you get in the bell housing enough to unbolt the pressure plate from the fly wheel?

It sounds like you damaged your clutch plate while installing it and now the plate has siezed up on the input shft. My guess would be that the plate is all bent up.

The only thing I can think of, without pullling the engine and tranny out together and doing some serious disconnecting, would be to stick a crow bar or a bent piece of metal between the tranny and engine and try to pound the plate off of the input shaft.

I know you don't have a lot of room, but at least it came off a little.

Good Luck.



Edit:

I just realized that the above idea won't work if you have the bellhousing to engine dissconnected.

If you have the type of tranny that separates from the bellhousing, try re-attaching the bellhousing to the engine and disconnect the tranny from the bellhousing. Then you'd be able to work the clutch while you try to pull it off and that might be enough to get you past the bind...

I don't know, I'm just throwing out ideas.

If everything is unhooked then you have two choices. Squirt some lubricant onto the input shfat splines if possible, and then try to force it out with a winch maybe, or some prybars, or bolt it back in and hope it works okay.

I was helping a friend install a marlin crawler, and we could not get the tranny out. Sounds same as your problem. We just wanted to check the clutch, and did not really need it out, so after finding that it would not come out even with quite a bit of prying, we stuck it back together. It has been fine AFAIK.

We were working with all the correct tools, and had the angles fine and I guess the splines just had a bit of a groove in them that was grabbing the clutch disk.

The throwout bearing or pilot bushing can sometimes be stubborn.

Better get out the torch!!!!!!!!:D

Take two long bolts that will thread into the block. Stick them through the tranny and take two nuts and washer onto in the gap in a comb of washer, nut, nut washer. Thread them into the block. Tighten one washer and nut to the tranny. Then start tighten the nuts up against the block evenly this should push the tranny away from the block. Basically doing the same thing that you did when you forced the tranny in with the bolts. Three bolts, washer, and nuts combo would be better if you can get to the top hole. When you are tightening the nuts against the block only take about a half a turn on each nut at a time.:D

seen this before the input shaft is now stuck in the pilot bearing from being forced together and has pulled out of the crank and will not go thruogh the disk. your not going to like this part get a sawzall and cut the bellhousing so you can get to the presure plate bolts unbolt it and it will come out as one piece. your disk is trash now from pulling on it take the bellhousig off your other tranny.Rick

Sounds like the splines are stuck in the clutch disc. Next time when you put the trans in, NEVER pull the trans to the engine by using the bolts. Of all the clutch jobs I've done on all makes of vehicles, I have never had to do that. It should slide right in if there are no problems. The last 1/2" can be done by having the bolts in against the bell housing and then pushing on the clutch pedal. This will let the clutch disc move and the trans will slide into the pilot bearing.

ITs the pilot bearing ,if the clutch disk was stuck it woulldn't have moved at all.

I have had this happen many times when a pilot bearing gets stuck on the end of the input shaft.

If you can get a pry bar into it good enough to take the pressure plate bolts out,pry one side at a time, do it one at a time,and turn it till they are all out the clutch and plate and bearing will come out as one.

If not,try the studs or all thread ,in the block with nuts on them and turn them out till it comes apart.

if that wont work yer fooked,...lol :D

cut a hole in the housing that will allow you to get to the bolts.

Anti sieze on the cltuch disk and thow out arm and bearing collar before you install the new one.

good luck

gary