Ok were doing a solid axle swap onto an 86 2 wheel drive frame. My question is what are my options for mounting the rear of the the front leaf spring. Is there any other way than drilling through the frame and welding a tube in. Any help would be appreciated.

you could do what i did on the luvota.cut the rear mounts off your spare frame and weld em on:D . when you cut em off cut above the mount so you have a little channel left. this helps when putting them on(slipped right over my frame). my .02

I did what Larry did when I did my SAS.... I just used the rear shackle mounts and welded them to the bottom of the frame. ( I put Chevy's in the rear and used the stock Chevy shackle, so I didn't need the Toyota shackle hangers any more....) If it's a two wheel drive frame you'll have to make a front hanger as well....

http://archerventures.com/upyours/images/new1.jpg

You mean like this? :D

just go through the frame or put the shackle in the front of the spring. Having the shackle hanger under the frame you really lose ground clearance and/or shackle length and a short shackle will limit your flex.

Originally posted by dunehopper027
Ok were doing a solid axle swap onto an 86 2 wheel drive frame. My question is what are my options for mounting the rear of the the front leaf spring. Is there any other way than drilling through the frame and welding a tube in. Any help would be appreciated.


You can a look see here, there might be something useful, I know trucks are not the same, but, they both have frome rails, and are both Toys!!

www.members.cox.net/k-ton/sas.htm

K-ton

Originally posted by NE-RokToy
just go through the frame or put the shackle in the front of the spring. Having the shackle hanger under the frame you really lose ground clearance and/or shackle length and a short shackle will limit your flex.

Wrong.


Assuming the same axle, tires, springs, and lift - the shackle under the frame gives you MORE clearance because the frame is up HIGHER.

Here's the way I did the SAS on my 90 truck:

http://www.tennessee4x4.com/toyota/images/mvc-007s.jpg

if you mount the shackle hanger below the frame youll need to run a bigger(relatively) drop front hanger accordingly(or start cuttin and turnin knuckles to maintain the caster up front and pinion angle...). this will however, allow you to use nice, flat leaf springs and still get your desired lift instead of a steeply arched, stiff spring for lift......

Originally posted by DRM
Here's the way I did the SAS on my 90 truck:


DRM,

Are those your stock rear springs in that pic? If not, what springs are they?

Originally posted by DRM


Wrong.


Assuming the same axle, tires, springs, and lift - the shackle under the frame gives you MORE clearance because the frame is up HIGHER.

How can the frame be higher if you have the same lift? :flipoff2:

I think he meant the same lift SPRINGS.....LOL

the diference in TOTAL lift would be the distance from where the pivot point would be IN the frame to where the pivot point would be UNDER the frame....:flipoff2:

Originally posted by ErikB
How can the frame be higher if you have the same lift? :flipoff2: Quit being a :clown: Eric. :D

He said same springs. Not same lift. Mounting the hanger under the frame and using a larger drop hanger in front will allow you to get the same amount of lift out of a flatter spring.

The main impact I could see is reduced approach angle, since you have them fang thingies hanging down at the front of the frame rail. Kinda like lift shackles on a Jeep. More lift, but a little less approach angle with the same spring.