i figure ill start a build thread for it on here since not everybody is smart enough to become a member of coloradok5 but here goes.

i started out by tearing up the blazer i had sittin in the driveway for about a year
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0215.jpg
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0217.jpg
i then found a pickup that was cheap as fuck it was 250 and had a 14 bolt f/f np205 and an sm465 and of course the cab.
this pic was taken after the doors and front clip were taken off
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0224.jpg
got the rest of the blazer body off just the motor was left on the frame
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0232.jpg
tranny and case
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0232.jpg
got the cab off the frame
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0230.jpg
new flywheel clutch and trans put on
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0235.jpg
put the cab on
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0238.jpg
made the rear cab crossmember
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0243.jpg
got rid of the spring hangers and stuff to prep for the 52's crossmember
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0256.jpg

got a new toy to play around with
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0258.jpg
finished from crossmember
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0272.jpg
temporary front end on along with the crossmember 52 inch springs and 7 inch shackles

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shackle flip and 56's
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0282.jpg
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0281.jpg
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pretty much ride height
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start to finish of my rear bumper
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http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0289.jpg
got another parts blazer for free from a buddy i snatched the doors front clip interior radiator the floors and some other crap off it
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0291.jpg
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/th_1126081334-00.jpg (http://s178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/?action=view&current=1126081334-00.flv)

put my gas tank in incorporated the tank straps into the bumper
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started floor fix by cuttin out the pass side floor
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replaced rotten support with 2x2 square tube
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the rock slider 3x4 tube
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rock slider frame tie ins also 2x2 square http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0318.jpg
floor welded in
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0318.jpg
floor and slider done
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0322.jpg

bolted in the wheel well and seeing what its gunna look like when the fenders on
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0324.jpg
thats where i am now im just getting started on the floor rot on the drivers side and i have the passenger side door bolted on more to come

got the floors all done
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0338.jpg
got the engine running after about 4 cranks after sitting for close to 2 years
also made one of the switch panels. the red toggle is the starter and the 2 black ones are for the fans
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0347.jpg
2wd steering box
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0345.jpg
xj shaft
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0343.jpg

No worries about the gas tank being the limiting factor on your approach angle or am I seeing things wrong?

bed being mocked up
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painted
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gas filler
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http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0393.jpg

my keep it simple stupid idea of a rear shock inboard crossmember
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0398.jpg
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bed finished
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0403.jpg

... since not everybody is smart enough to become a member of coloradok5...

:confused: :laughing: Anyways...

You have that thing done by July?You could bring it out to Blazerfest July 17th-19th :D

Oh,and I have been a member of CK5 since 2000 or 2001.Does that mean Im smart? :flipoff2:

I did the same thing back in early 2002.81 Blazer to 74 C20.The thread is still on CK5 but its so old none of the pics are good anymore.

http://www.norcalbigdawgs.net/Gallery/albums/The-Hammers/P1010021.jpg

No worries about the gas tank being the limiting factor on your approach angle or am I seeing things wrong?

its not too bad IMO but idk its the same as a regular blazer.im gunna either make a HD skid plate or ill move it further forward.

Nice project can't wait to see it finished.

x2 what frizz said bring it to blazerfest

:confused: :laughing: Anyways...

You have that thing done by July?You could bring it out to Blazerfest July 17th-19th :D

Oh,and I have been a member of CK5 since 2000 or 2001.Does that mean Im smart? :flipoff2:

I did the same thing back in early 2002.81 Blazer to 74 C20.The thread is still on CK5 but its so old none of the pics are good anymore.

http://www.norcalbigdawgs.net/Gallery/albums/The-Hammers/P1010021.jpg

i plan on having this shit going within the next 2 months im going to be getting a cucv soon for the 60 and some other stuff then my case from a buddy and ill be running an eaton HO 72 out back that i just need to put on. then ill be good to go. where is blazer fest?

yes that means youre smart although i havent been enjoying ck5 lately. theres a whole new crowd of douche's that go on just to ask stupid ass questions.

do you have any rides going on soon im itching to take my other blazer wheelin

Hollister hills

here my sweet ho72. its got a detroit and 4.56's. and the finished bed with toolbox on it


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Nice worl so far bro what size of tires you planning on running

Nice worl so far bro what size of tires you planning on running
39.5 x 14 prolly i dont really care on the width so long as theyre 39.5's im just waiting for another good craigslist deal

:lmao:

are you not worred about that gas tank?? :tank::nuke::nuke::nuke:

Looks to be lower than the frame, and in the rear :confused::eek:

that neighborhood doesnt look like gv where are you located? good luck on your build, ive got one going also

that neighborhood doesnt look like gv where are you located? good luck on your build, ive got one going also

im from grass valley but i live in davis now

:lmao:

are you not worred about that gas tank?? :tank::nuke::nuke::nuke:

Looks to be lower than the frame, and in the rear :confused::eek:

its in the same place as any other gas tank on any other blazer frame from 73 to 90 it just looks more rediculous cause theres no body. ive seen plenty of people wheel fine including my own blazer with the tank in that same exact position

if it become a serious issue ill move it someplace else

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0438.jpg
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0444.jpg

i got all the body on and am now starting on engine bay work and whatnot i put it up on the hi lift too to test droop the back is questionable but i think ill be able to make it better by cutting those spring pack retainer things off and getting longer shackles it should also be better with more weight.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/get-attachment-4.jpg

i havent posed in a long ass time but ive got a little update. i have my napco front axle thta im getting ready to put under the front of the truck. in going to run it how it is for now and if/when it breaks im going to put dana 60 knuckles on it and have shafts made that will fit into a 14 bolt detroit spline. and on the axle the is the steering arm thats bolted to the driver side knuckle and was wondering if i put it on the other side backwards for the crossover would that be a problem that its on there facing the rear of the truck?

Cool build, my rig's current state looks oddly familiar...k5 to k5buggy to truck cab...same sliders except slashed at ends....nice.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC_0045.jpg

mounted and wired the fans and got the front axle all secure and whatnot. pics can do the talking.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PICT0150.jpg
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Nice looking rig man.

how are you keeping the wheel bearings centered on the core support bolts?

Bet those front drums break like ass with short fortys!

how are you keeping the wheel bearings centered on the core support bolts?

i just centered them to my liking then tightened em down

Bet those front drums break like ass with short fortys!

im going to do a disk conversion

I don't like your axle choice, but it's not my truck... Good looking truck though, I like some of the ideas you have put into it..




















CK5 sucks ass. :flipoff2:

Nice looking truck man. :smokin:

I don't like your axle choice, but it's not my truck... Good looking truck though, I like some of the ideas you have put into it..






















CK5 sucks ass. :flipoff2:

i dont like your style of wheeling (mud) but i aint bitching about it:flipoff2:
thanks for the compliment tho

i been gettin shit done i made some strait bootyfab steering just to get it so i can roll it in and out of my driveway. i cut the balljoint off of the stock 2wd pitman arm and welded the end of a stock steering arm onto it then i took a torsion bar i had cut off the ends and welded some threaded balljoints from the stock push pull steering onto the ends of it and it works great. im not even thinking about using this for anything but the driveway so i dont wanna hear it. but anyways. i got the hydroboost all done and it kicks ass!! next on the list is the steering box brace and shackles for the back end then shocks

Cool looking rig...whats a napco axle never heard of it befor

Cool looking rig...whats a napco axle never heard of it befor

its the axle that the napco corporation designed for the 4x4 conversions back in the day

Living in Davis eh? I grew up there. Looks like the perfect truck to run over some bikers with man. Keep the progress commin. Helpin a buddy do almost the same exact thing to his blaze. He doesnt have the sweet wheel bearing core supports tho....

Living in Davis eh? I grew up there. Looks like the perfect truck to run over some bikers with man. Keep the progress commin. Helpin a buddy do almost the same exact thing to his blaze. He doesnt have the sweet wheel bearing core supports tho....

haha theyre np205 idler shaft bearings and they spaced the core support off the bushings just the right amount to fit my fenders. but yea im in davis sadly but i like that im close to fordyce the con and a nice little spot in the vacaville hills. my deadline to go on a yearly trip with my buddies to slick rock and deere valley is 4 weeks so ive got a shit-ton of work to do and money to spend

rear shocks done. what yall think of the angle?

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PICT0175.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PICT0170.jpg

and heres my TEMPORARY driveway only steering

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PICT0171.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PICT0172.jpg

please tell me that the steering is not what you plan to run......

please tell me that the steering is not what you plan to run......

Can you read?

apparently not.....sorry I missed the few words between the huge pics.

hey everyone im in dire need of some 40's if anyone has a set of that is
close to california or knows sombody that does please pm me thanks!

i bought a cherry 465 205 combo there is no wear on the output and input shafts or the coupler at all!!! i threw it in 5 days ago and made up a rear shaft and i am very happy with it. it is low as fawk in first and low in the case. i think it will be just right with 40's. im workin on doing the front disk conversion right now and its gunna be a PITA but i gotta do it so oh well. after the front brakes are done im gunna mount my new shocks up front (14 inch travel pro comps)
then the brake lines and a front shaft. its just paint and the windshield after that. to be ready for the trip at least. im still waiting on my order from ord for all the steering stuff.

hey everyone im in dire need of some 40's if anyone has a set of that is
close to california or knows sombody that does please pm me thanks!

Hey, I have some bald ass Boggers, 40x18 for a 15" rim... I will let em go for cheap...

What is the stroke of the rear shocks?

What is the stroke of the rear shocks?

12 inch travel 4 up travel 8 is left for droop

Hey, I have some bald ass Boggers, 40x18 for a 15" rim... I will let em go for cheap...
a 15 wouldnt have fit i dont think but thanks anyways i got a set of tsls:D:D

new tranny t case and made a driveshaft.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PICT0182.jpg

tires.... yea i know its nose high i think im going to try and make it a little better with shackles

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PICT0180.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PICT0179.jpg

is that a 1" body lift, or a bearing?

Check page 2. It's a bearing.

few poser pics

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/get-attachment-1-1.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/get-attachment-2-1.jpg

Very interesting build... thanks for sharing all of the pictures and information.

-W

Very nice build man. :smokin:

Very nice build man. :smokin:

thanks alot!!

that last pick of it in your yard looks so sik! ps let me drive it

so a little update. i got my steering but couldnt put it on because my steering arm hole is too big for the ball joints so i welded the old hole up and im gunna drill it and rheem it out today so i can get that all finished up. i also got all the brakes all done up in the rear. its turning out to be a PITA to adapt the front to disks because i need the disks to fit over the hub. i think i found something that will work with a little bit of grinding. i got the windshield in and to fit a front drive shaft ive gotta re route the exhaust and then ill be all good to go ill post some pics soon

looks a little butt low?

I noticed that as well. Looks cool though.

im going to try an level it out a bit with shackles in the back but its no biggie

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PICT0183.jpg

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any questions just ask

why is it rearend swating so much




also realy like this build so far

why is it rearend swating so much




also realy like this build so far

its just like 4 inches lower out back im gunna lower the front a bit and raise the back a bit

took the truck out two wheelin and campin this weekend. the locker works great i did get stuck a few times though. the gearing is low as hell though in low low i didnt really get pics. blew a rad hose and power steerin line but it was easily fixed and pulled a bronco out of a river :flipoff2: kinda fun... but im gettin my front shaft and front shocks done this week then goin out again this week!!!!! will get the girl to take pics this time around

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/get-attachment-1-2.jpg

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still havent been able to get a tire off the ground....need an rtv ramp
but theres a few pics i put on the front shocks and mud flaps on also got a 32 spline front output in the case now with 1350 yoke. so now the only joint on the truck besides the tiny steering shaft joints is 1350. i also just got my superflex joints in the mail for my front shaft should get that done tomorrow

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/get-attachment-7.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/triz.jpg

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well shit! havent updated a damn thing but have done alot. i made 7 inch shackles for the rear, made my front shaft, broke 2 sets of blocks.....popped my brand new tsl on a shitty peice of shale, made a frankenstien 56 rear leaf pack from 2 56 leafs and 3 52 leafs which opted out the shiity block problem i was having because it shot me up in the rear while making me more flexy at the same time, aqnd have tested out my somewhat unheard of (in wheeling) front axle. im happy as fuck with the whole truck. it craws real nice and hauls ass on the street. im super happy i chose to run the eaton's theyre badass havent had any problems whatsoever with them(except 40 year old leaky axle seals in the front) heres some current pics

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/get-attachment-1-3.jpg
frankenstien 56's
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/get-attachment-8.jpg
shackles i made
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my badass heater
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mid rock lights

poser pics:
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those last two got the cops called on me they came and thought i was going to steal a ford crown vic that was right by the truck......?:shaking: a second cop rolls up after i was told i could leave and told me my truck was un wheelable..... apperently its too big ? i figure he was just a typical yota ass clown....fag

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/trazeee-1.jpg
and just for kicks. eaton passenger side axle shaft

so when are you starting the exo cage......:flipoff2:

so when are you starting the exo cage......:flipoff2:

not down for an exo. im gunna do a cage in the cab and on the bed seperate

those last two got the cops called on me they came and thought i was going to steal a ford crown vic that was right by the truck......?:shaking: a second cop rolls up after i was told i could leave and told me my truck was un wheelable..... apperently its too big ? i figure he was just a typical yota ass clown....fag


No, i think that cop was right... i've seen that thing in action. P.O.S. :flipoff2::flipoff2:

Awesome build, man... So many great ideas executed very well.

Do you plan on doing anything about the front pinion angle? It looks a bit shallow.

Awesome build, man... So many great ideas executed very well.

Do you plan on doing anything about the front pinion angle? It looks a bit shallow.

yea im gunna cut and turn and totally go through the axle and beef it up with and custom shafts and detroit

just got back tonight from a day of fuckin around at cache creek. went out with a buddy that just did a lot of work to his yota so were testing it out. ive made the final decision to cut the knuckles off my eaton and put all 60 shit on it. not because the birfs and closed ball knuckle have failed me, theyve actually taken alot of bullshit for 40 year old axles but i figure i wanna put a detroit in my front third and i wanna cut and turn the axle anyways so why not just do it right the first time.

ive also got my axle wrap setup for the rear all figured out (got the idea from quam fab in woodland) im just going to do a truss and have two, link mounts on the left and right sides of the truss and then do a crossmember on the frame for the forward link mounts, and ittl be all triangulated and shit to keep the axle from movin side to side. so basically its the upper links of a four link setup and the lower links are leafs. i find it much more practical than the over under axle wrap bar to a shackle on the frame. and it looks way more badass.

doin my half doors..

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/IMG_0405.jpg

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i guess they arent really half doors so lets just call them "improved visibility doors"

starting to tear down a little to move my shackle hangars farward an inch or so to make my angle righy. and im going to start my rear mini truss. then ill start on building my crossmember that will tuck my case up a shit ton. then im going to do my triangulated links from the truss to the crossmember for my wrap bars

and i gotta finish my half doors and cut turn and rebuild my front axle by the time it gets warm again. also thinking im gunna take a leaf outta the front springs

Your Trazer looks like a way more radical version of my truck!

http://www.starcityracing.com/Forums/imagehosting/2124b7600c9ee889.jpg

Your Trazer looks like a way more radical version of my truck!

http://www.starcityracing.com/Forums/imagehosting/2124b7600c9ee889.jpg

nice, now you just gotta flat bed er and put some tons on it.

i wish my truck was that clean when i started the build....

wow! i can't believe i never saw this build, i bought a 77 K5 a couple months ago with a parts blazer. my plan is to trade the parts blazer's clean tub for a friend's pickup cab and box to make a super-short box truck.

when you mounted the cab, did you have any body lift pucks on the front mounts, or were they okay with the rear crossmember you made? were the old blazer body mounts waaaay too far off?

oh, and nice job! i like the use of NAPCO axles, gving them a new life.

got my shackle angle a shit ton better and that is without the bed on so it will sag down a bit more and i really think my articulation in the rear end is going to improve by leaps and bounds.
and then there is the start of my mini truss im thinking about lobbing about an inch and a half off the top of it and plating it over in order to make my links clear my exhaust better and because i dont like how bulky it looks..

wow! i can't believe i never saw this build, i bought a 77 K5 a couple months ago with a parts blazer. my plan is to trade the parts blazer's clean tub for a friend's pickup cab and box to make a super-short box truck.

when you mounted the cab, did you have any body lift pucks on the front mounts, or were they okay with the rear crossmember you made? were the old blazer body mounts waaaay too far off?

oh, and nice job! i like the use of NAPCO axles, gving them a new life.

i dont have any body spacers on the cab at all the only reason theyre under the radiator support is because i made my cab mount too short so it was the only way to make my fenders fit. blazer body mounts arent even close to being in the correct spot so you either have to make on or get one off a some year pickup. but i dont know anything about what year. ive just seen some people mount the cab that way.

and thank you i like being a pioneer with stuff haha thats why i built a trazer and threw eatons on it :smokin: ill never use another rear end but an eaton. and im gunna try my hardest to find as many front napco's as i can and beef them up with cool shit but thats down the road

mini truss welded. now onto my bellypan/crossmember/link mount thingy then my links and at the end my front end rebuild

Nice build bro...

It gave me some ideas for the leafs on my truck

this might be a stupid question but what axles are you running?

this might be a stupid question but what axles are you running?
I'm pretty sure your answer can be found on at least two of the pages of this thread, maybe three. :shaking:
They're Eaton/ NAPCO axle's.

EDIT: on all 4 pages it's mentioned. haha. :flipoff2:

I'm pretty sure your answer can be found on at least two of the pages of this thread, maybe three. :shaking:
They're Eaton/ NAPCO axle's.

EDIT: on all 4 pages it's mentioned. haha. :flipoff2:

relax scott. dont be such a typical noob :flipoff2::flipoff2: but he is right you should have read the thread before posting....just be more attentive next time

but yea the rear is eaton ho72 which came on the 3/4 and 1 ton chevys and gmc's fome i believe the late 50's to 72 or so. and the front is a napco 4x4 conversion axle from back in the day. as you can see napco just made a casting of the typical eaton rear axle but made one tube longer and one shorter.

now for a little update. i was originally going to use most of MNorby's crossmember design but i went under and checked it out and realized i cant because my exhaust is very much in the way and because my case is wayyy too low. so i might try to get some fig 8 pattern plates cut out and machined at my local shop so i can clock my case without a doubler but im still thinking.

so for now i have just made a crossmember that is 9 inches back from the crossmember that holds my case and tranny up so i can make a rear transfercase support and mount my links ill post pics when its all done, most likely tomorrow or friday if the skys are clear

Nice build bro...

It gave me some ideas for the leafs on my truck

using factory leafs and making frankenstien packs is the best way to get flex and get more clearance with leaf sprung trucks for sure IMO i would'nt do it any other way

sweet truck man. reminds me of my truck. 84 k5 frame with 74 truck cab so i don't have to worry bout smog and a flat bed. wish mine was near as nice as yours. im gonna borrow a few of your ideas....just so you know. :D

sweet truck man. reminds me of my truck. 84 k5 frame with 74 truck cab so i don't have to worry bout smog and a flat bed. wish mine was near as nice as yours. im gonna borrow a few of your ideas....just so you know. :D

i dont mind at all. i like to think that i had some good ideas that others might use on their rigs.

got my tractor links today for my axle wrap bars. i just gotta cut em sleeve them and lengthen them now. then ill post pics of it all after i make my link mount tabs

you ever wheel down at hollister?

you ever wheel down at hollister?

nope it looks fun in pics but since i know absolutely nobody down that way to wheel with id rather not make the drive. but i would like to go there eventually. it seems like its getting harder and harder to find people that are willing to go on trips these days because money is so tight with everyone now. i want to plan i big fullsize trip to the con one of these days. i know its mostly full of d bags now a days but hey it can still be fun

i want to plan i big fullsize trip to the con one of these days

sign me up for that. i'm down to go...if i can get my damn jimmy finished :mad3:

sign me up for that. i'm down to go...if i can get my damn jimmy finished :mad3:

yea haha you gotta get the suspension softer though and figure out what youre gunna do about the gears for the front.

well i got stuff done today. took a trip up to ruff stuff specialties shop to get some stuff for a shackle flip im building, to get some tube for my links and to just check it out. dan who i believe is the owner is a great guy helped me and my friend out alot. and its just a cool shop so much eye candy. i wanted everything!! but i came home and sleeved one of my links and i also grinded a spare shift rail i had for a 205 and put it in so now i have the front wheel drive only option. just working on how im gunna set up my twin sticks. but now that i have all the parts for my links and some insight from dan at ruff stuff on how to build my diff covers for my eatons im going to be getting shit done. hoping to take my front end out by the end of the week so i can cut/turn it and beef the knuckles up a bit as well as build my front cover will have pics soon enough here.

yea haha you gotta get the suspension softer though and figure out what youre gunna do about the gears for the front.

its all on the list :D
but im going to attempt to regear the old front axle myself and just swap all the 3/4 ton stuff over to that one

got my twin stick done and finished up my trac bar link crossmember. next is making the link tabs and finishing my links ive just gotta get the right length measurements.

sleeved the inside of the tube at the cuts and extended them as you can see. yes they are tractor links, 20 dollars each equals the right price and strength for me....

almost done mounting them then im gunna clean up my rear shaft and paint it and make my second t case support.

sorry about the shit pics. its because i took them at night

help me!!! i finished my links and they are at zero degrees, when i accelerate a decent amount it hops!! and when i accelerate through a turn it fucking pissing me off im guessing it is because the angle of the links isnt angles toward the rear but i just need some reassurance

My guess is that its hopping because that setup not really doing anything to stop the axle from wrapping up.

Your axle is just rotating where the links attach to the top of the diff :D

My guess is that its hopping because that setup not really doing anything to stop the axle from wrapping up.

Your axle is just rotating where the links attach to the top of the diff :D

well i have a buddy that has the exact same set up on his pickup but he told me that they have to be angled back a few degrees or im fucked. And i totally fucked up on the link mounts when i did them because i did it on my driveway :homer:

any suggestions????

any suggestions????

That should do it... But... What's on the other side of the links? A shackle, or is it just mounted to the frame?

That should do it... But... What's on the other side of the links? A shackle, or is it just mounted to the frame?

its mounted to a crossmember solidly

well fuck it i went under there tonight trying to figure out something i could do to make the links work but i just got pissed off so im just going to make a typical traction bar..... but im looking on the bright side, at least now i have the provisions for half of a four link already done. so that will come soon when i save some money for some nice heims that i wont have to worry about. and when i can figure out all the geometric shit for a double triangulated four link.... all together a shitty test day

went camping this weekend up past colfax, i found a few sweet rock gardens but really have no pics :mad3: but my front shaft also had an issue when i was trying to pull a car out from being stuck along a row of trees i fixed it real quick like :smokin: just so i could get out of the area. the shaft broke off of the lower yoke because the angle is so retarded so after all the bouncing around i guess the welds slowly just started to crack so once it was all the way broken off i put it back together and ratchet strapped it so the lower slip of the square couldnt slide out of the square inner sleeve i made on my yoke when i built it

all together fun weekend and the truck exceeded my expectations in RWD low. some people had a little bit too much to drink at camp and got outta control but i wont go there. and the second pic is the only pic i got. boooooo

edit. i got a brand new 39.5 tsl to replace the one i popped on shale last summer (:

i like the piece of paper on your rear window. otherwise it seems like fun

i like the piece of paper on your rear window. otherwise it seems like fun

get your friggin ranger done so you can wheel with us

Nice Build man! T:smokin:he half doors look slick as shit!

get your friggin ranger done so you can wheel with us

it should be on its own weight by the 10th of next month if work gives me the time off. so :flipoff2:

it should be on its own weight by the 10th of next month if work gives me the time off. so :flipoff2:

wait its taken apart?!?!?!?!

wait its taken apart?!?!?!?!

no. im asking for the 4th to the 10th off, so if its not atleast sitting on its own weight by then you can call me a lazy asshole all you want.

sorry for the thread hack haha

no. im asking for the 4th to the 10th off, so if its not atleast sitting on its own weight by then you can call me a lazy asshole all you want.

sorry for the thread hack haha

haha it all good i dont give a shit if people post on my thread. let me know if its too much for you to handle on the ranger.

haha it all good i dont give a shit if people post on my thread. let me know if its too much for you to handle on the ranger.

wat do you mean too much? as in if i need help?

only thing i see thats gunna frustrate me is the whole cutting off of the ifs mounts cuz of how long its gunna take and plumbing my steering box since i think i need some weird ass fittings (which i havent found part #'s for yet). besides that the rest seems straight forward.

Nice Build man! T:smokin:he half doors look slick as shit!

thanks alot, the encouragement is always nice

wat do you mean too much? as in if i need help?

only thing i see thats gunna frustrate me is the whole cutting off of the ifs mounts cuz of how long its gunna take and plumbing my steering box since i think i need some weird ass fittings (which i havent found part #'s for yet). besides that the rest seems straight forward.

im sure sombody on this site could tell ya easily

just for future reference to anybody that veiws this thread, my front end cut/turn beefup thread is here: http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=876129

my overhead console from start to finish. stero is out of a buddys tahoe and the gps is just your typical garmin, got it so i can have a speedo that works:homer: and so i can mark trails and campsites and to get back to camp on not so sober nights.

heres my my mini skid plate. im trying as hard as i can to procects the t case so my adapter never fails. there is a support at the very rear of the case right becore the yoke and then the skid covers everything. hopefully i wont have to worry

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wow! nice job on the overhead console! feel like an airline pilot? :D

wow! nice job on the overhead console! feel like an airline pilot? :D

thanks!! haha yea im kinda going for the "cockpit" feel in the truck. at night with all my switches on, and the console lit up i feel like im getting ready for take off.

this is a sketch of what i want for my bed cage. does anyone have any input on what is good and what may need to be added? as you can see i am an excellent artist :D

needs more round and more triangulation.......jk

at least you drew the 4 carb barrels :flipoff2:

rear fenders? or are mudflaps alone sufficient for Cali?

at least you drew the 4 carb barrels :flipoff2:

rear fenders? or are mudflaps alone sufficient for Cali?

mudflaps are fine. in fact ive driven around for the last 6 months without any flaps at all so i really dont think they give a shit. the cops have all of the drug dealers and kids with retarded subs to worry about

replaced my fucked up throwout bearing and put everything back together. its almost drivable again :D:D i cant wait

what are peoples opinions on extending my skid on both sides all the way up to the frame?

what are peoples opinions on extending my skid on both sides all the way up to the frame?
I'd say do it, you have more of that diamond plate, right? plus, if it goes all the way over, you wouldn't be able to get caught up on ur tcase crossmember as easily.

went out to test shit today after the axle work, i also need to get pics of my tie rod. i have a feeling im going to get alot of shit for it but oh well. i guess i have more articulation than i thought and when came down off of that second hump in the picture my passenger side from brake line snapped right off at the fitting. so im going to get 2 inch longer lines.

pointless little video...

YouTube - trazer test after front axle cut and turn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl2z0WrnXiQ)

Very nice- I like the video. I'm hoping my truck will be able to do that in the near future (probably not- RC lift springs are STIFF).

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Do it. In general more skid is more better.

Very nice- I like the video. I'm hoping my truck will be able to do that in the near future (probably not- RC lift springs are STIFF).

aughtta get some 52's haha

finished my other gas can holster. and got pics of what i made to make them stay put

went to indian valley for memorial day. not very much wheeling, basicall just hit up the creek for a few miles. one of the only pics i got this weekend that were worth a damn.
and we had some pretty cool neighbors across the creek that came over for a little target practice and fun. these guys were full blown russians that have great respect for the u.s. and have great veiws. the best thing about them in my opinion was that they all came here fully legal, they went through all the paperwork and bullshit and are u.s citizens and one is a marine. why cant the mexican's do it like that :mad3:

really enjoyed reading this buildup thread... i am building a similar rig but with a shortened stepside bed.
What size are those TSL's?

really enjoyed reading this buildup thread... i am building a similar rig but with a shortened stepside bed.
What size are those TSL's?

thanks! theyre 39.5's x 15 with a 16.5 x 12 rim

the steering box decided it didnt like being attached to the frame any longer,
my half door wanted to become one with soup bowl. and my driveshaft, well i dont know about that one

the only pictures i got were going up soup bowl. i needed a little tug because i got wedged inbetween a rock at the bottom on my bed and the steep rock at the top. thanks jimmy1969510

and then my finished front diff cover and my in progress rear diff cover since the stock on didnt make it through the con.

I like it alawt! subbed!

So nice an simple :)

With your permission, I'm jacking that center console idea. That's pretty pimp.

With your permission, I'm jacking that center console idea. That's pretty pimp.

haha yea thats fine. i used 1/16th inch sheet metal for it and it turned out just swell

pics speak

Replace the stock adapter crossmember with something that has a longer footprint on the frame and sandwich it from the top with plate. I torqued the fuck out of my frame from laying on that thing on a big ol rock.

Granted the skidplate will probably prevent it because the tcase is like a fucking lever on that crossmember but still, your fab is good and its a simple job for more beef.

the new plate is welded in and the steering box is on. i am going to do a little bit more work on the back side of the frame to get some triangulation in there either tomorrow or maybe saturday, im going into a friends shop on friday to bend up the shit on my rear cage :D

Replace the stock adapter crossmember with something that has a longer footprint on the frame and sandwich it from the top with plate. I torqued the fuck out of my frame from laying on that thing on a big ol rock.

Granted the skidplate will probably prevent it because the tcase is like a fucking lever on that crossmember but still, your fab is good and its a simple job for more beef.

yea im not too worried about the stock crossmember as of now, its pretty solid all tied together like i have it and i have had nearly full weight on the skid with no bending issues.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=538232&stc=1&d=1280315202

I have a hammer just like that. I think you should post more videos... please :D

I have a hammer just like that. I think you should post more videos... please :D

i dont have any more videos right now but i do have this......oh and this

the second one is just a sneek peak :D

dude, thats dope already.

dude, thats dope already.

i was waiting for the cage.:smokin:

Looking good. Where did you find a bender?

Looking good. Where did you find a bender?

this guy i worked with at a hod rod shop for like a week quit and got his own shop and he has every tool you can imagine. his tube bender is hyro and hes got mills shears all types of welders, everything. so he helped me out.

So where you working now??? The covers look sick!!!

I dont work there anymore. The guy was a faggot and decided he wasnt going to pay me for the work i was doing. And thanks! My im happy that i wont have to worry about my diffs anymore

that sucks about the shop...what shop was it?

nice build man, I like the hoop around the cab, just gotta get some tubing and make one for mine.

that sucks about the shop...what shop was it?

just a little hole in the wall place in woodland. idk what its called but the guy is full of shit.

nice build man, I like the hoop around the cab, just gotta get some tubing and make one for mine.

yea. the cage isnt even close to done, im putting it off because of having to notch everything with a grinder

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Loving this build! Great job on the whole bed and rear cage setup. Some great ideas on this thread. Keep up the great work! :D

all i need to do now is weld up the..... i dont know what to call it. all the tube that butts up to the cab. then weld it fully to the truck. then it will be cake from there.

Whats your address so I can send you the award for most over triangulated back hoop ever?




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Lookin good man.

Whats your address so I can send you the award for most over triangulated back hoop ever?




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Lookin good man.

haha i figured i needed some extra since my toolbox is in the way of just doing one big x.

thanks alot

Damn that looks pretty sick. We have to meet up when I get back to California, I am sure pictures don't do it justice

Damn that looks pretty sick. We have to meet up when I get back to California, I am sure pictures don't do it justice

well once its done it will be the shit. i found out i love doing tubework but i dont love using a grinder to notch :mad3::mad3::mad3::mad3: ive got some epic gaps to bridge due to shitty notches.....boooooooo

Those 5mm gaps are a pain in my ass two. Are you useing am angle grinder or a chopsaw?

I'm seriously confused as to why you have all that triangulation in the hoop, and then mounted it to the frame in shear, in only two points, at that. So fucking what. It won't collapse, it'll just rip off the frame. A single hoop. with moderate triangulation, mounted in compression, would have been simpler, stronger, and safer. Yeah, I see it is tied into the rub rail as well, but the bending moment on those mounts are not adding any strength to speak of.

If you don't know why shear is bad, and compression is good, then all the triangulation in the world won't help, altho it does seem to impress some of the folks around here. Tie that thing to the frame in a somewhat vertical configuration, and it will get my vote for the most overbuilt hoop I have ever seen. As it stands, it's dead weight and scrap iron welded on. Does almost nothing, unless you are counting on the compressive strength of that tool box to support it.

Its not done yet. Calm yourself

I'm seriously confused as to why you have all that triangulation in the hoop, and then mounted it to the frame in shear, in only two points, at that. So fucking what. It won't collapse, it'll just rip off the frame. A single hoop. with moderate triangulation, mounted in compression, would have been simpler, stronger, and safer. Yeah, I see it is tied into the rub rail as well, but the bending moment on those mounts are not adding any strength to speak of.

If you don't know why shear is bad, and compression is good, then all the triangulation in the world won't help, altho it does seem to impress some of the folks around here. Tie that thing to the frame in a somewhat vertical configuration, and it will get my vote for the most overbuilt hoop I have ever seen. As it stands, it's dead weight and scrap iron welded on. Does almost nothing, unless you are counting on the compressive strength of that tool box to support it.

like ive already said ten times on this page, its nowhere close to done.. Do you honestly think i would build just a hoop? Thats fucking retarded

Off to the con!

Those 5mm gaps are a pain in my ass two. Are you useing am angle grinder or a chopsaw?

A damn handheld angle grinder. Its bullshit i wish i had just put out the money for a notcher

Thats fucking retarded


Well, those are your words, not mine. Since you bring it up, yes it is, retarded, to mount your hoop how you did. I don't care if it is done or not. You took the most important element of the cage and compromised it by mounting it the way you did. It would have been a simple proposition to slide your tool box back a few inches, and properly tie in the hoop. Don't get all defensive. I am only pointing out what is obvious to anyone with a fucking clue. You can take my advice, or not. It's your ride. You can build it anyway you like, and you can make all the "it isn't done" arguments you like. Your work is shoddy (5mm gaps in the fishmouths, clueless on load vectors, etc.) You can add enough iron to make it safe, but adding iron doesn't make it a good design, or quality work. Just makes it one more un-inspired build by someone who is totally ignorant, and totally unwilling to admit it.

Don't want it to be criticized, then don't post pictures of it.

I tend to try to do good work, even more important, I don't post pics of garbage and complain about 1/4" gaps in my fitup.

Well, those are your words, not mine. Since you bring it up, yes it is, retarded, to mount your hoop how you did. I don't care if it is done or not. You took the most important element of the cage and compromised it by mounting it the way you did. It would have been a simple proposition to slide your tool box back a few inches, and properly tie in the hoop. Don't get all defensive. I am only pointing out what is obvious to anyone with a fucking clue. You can take my advice, or not. It's your ride. You can build it anyway you like, and you can make all the "it isn't done" arguments you like. Your work is shoddy (5mm gaps in the fishmouths, clueless on load vectors, etc.) You can add enough iron to make it safe, but adding iron doesn't make it a good design, or quality work. Just makes it one more un-inspired build by someone who is totally ignorant, and totally unwilling to admit it.

Don't want it to be criticized, then don't post pictures of it.



dude i dont know why youre saying it is only mounted on two points. my hoop is currently mounted by 4 tubes, this isnt something that hasent been in my head for a while, look at the last picture on page 5, that is exactly what it is going to be when i finish and since you are the all knowing cage guy i want to know what you would change about the last picture on page 5.
and the reason i did the triangulation like that was because i knew i couldnt run the typical "x" since my toolbox was there, so i did a few smaller "x's".

the main hoop is connected to my sliders which are in turn connected to my frame with 3 2x2 square tubes on both sides and welded to the cab. my bed is very solidly mounted to the frame so i welded two more tubes from the hoop to the bed and triangulated between the two. whats the issue? i have the tubes going from the top of the hoop to the rear of the bed so its connected by 6 points.

and i really dont care that you are criticizing it. chances that i will ever run into you in my life are quite slim so who gives a shit? its the internet. you know how many people told me i was an idiot for running my eaton rear and napco front? TONNNNNS i did it anyways and look where i am. ive never broken anything on them and they are almost 50 years old. i ran them in the little sluice box this weekend where i have seen people break 300m rear axle shafts, diamond axle shafts, tons of shit. now i got in a very bad spot on the last part of sluice that was difficult because i had a drunk ass spotter and i was basically too big to do it with an open front.

the moral of the story is, im not going to do something different on my trucks or in my life just because sombody is scared of it or they dont think its a good idea. i will take your opinion into account and you know what if the cage does just snap off the frame you can tell me that you told me so but i will see how it works out and learn from my possible mistakes, im only 20 for gods sake. ive got lots of mistaking to do

dude i dont know why youre saying it is only mounted on two points. my hoop is currently mounted by 4 tubes, this isnt something that hasent been in my head for a while, look at the last picture on page 5, that is exactly what it is going to be when i finish and since you are the all knowing cage guy i want to know what you would change about the last picture on page 5.
and the reason i did the triangulation like that was because i knew i couldnt run the typical "x" since my toolbox was there, so i did a few smaller "x's".

the main hoop is connected to my sliders which are in turn connected to my frame with 3 2x2 square tubes on both sides and welded to the cab. my bed is very solidly mounted to the frame so i welded two more tubes from the hoop to the bed and triangulated between the two. whats the issue? i have the tubes going from the top of the hoop to the rear of the bed so its connected by 6 points.

and i really dont care that you are criticizing it. chances that i will ever run into you in my life are quite slim so who gives a shit? its the internet. you know how many people told me i was an idiot for running my eaton rear and napco front? TONNNNNS i did it anyways and look where i am. ive never broken anything on them and they are almost 50 years old. i ran them in the little sluice box this weekend where i have seen people break 300m rear axle shafts, diamond axle shafts, tons of shit. now i got in a very bad spot on the last part of sluice that was difficult because i had a drunk ass spotter and i was basically too big to do it with an open front.

the moral of the story is, im not going to do something different on my trucks or in my life just because sombody is scared of it or they dont think its a good idea. i will take your opinion into account and you know what if the cage does just snap off the frame you can tell me that you told me so but i will see how it works out and learn from my possible mistakes, im only 20 for gods sake. ive got lots of mistaking to do

As I said, build it how you like. That's what I would do. Just because you don't understand something, doesn't mean it is wrong. The diagonal to the rear of the bed is not doing anything to improve compressive strength. It is just there to keep it from folding over. Quite simply, when something is built in compression, then the forces which try to destroy it (mass and gravity) are directed in such a way that the force presses them together, rather than ripping them apart. It is a simple concept, and yet you don't seem to have a grasp on it.

You are acting like the most important design element of the entire vehicle, is the placement of the fucking tool box, then saying that you had to build the hoop around it. Let's just say that my priorities would have been the cage, and then the tool box. Different strokes, I suppose. I never said anything about the triangulation. That seems fine to me, altho a bit unorthodox. What I am saying is that the hoop is poorly mounted, and in a hard impact, the tubes welded to the frame will rip off, quite easily. Your crayola illustration only shows what I already said, and does nothing to demonstrate anything other than what I already know. By all means, do a google search of roll bar main hoops, and if you can find a single pic of one not designed to be mounted at least partially in compression, I will be extremely surprised.


Use your age as an excuse, if that is what it takes to get you thru the day. I would have preferred that you just told me to fuck off. At least that would have shown some balls. Your build doesn't scare me in the least. I'll never ride in it, so why should it. As to my opinion, well, I'm not offering an opinion. I'm spelling out the facts. You are certainly free to disregard them, if you like, but that doesn't make them less true. If you think you are a better designer than all the folks who do this for a living, and actually understand things like force vectors, compression, shear, bending moments, etc, then who am I to dissuade you? Go on with your bad fucking self.

As I said, build it how you like. That's what I would do. Just because you don't understand something, doesn't mean it is wrong. The diagonal to the rear of the bed is not doing anything to improve compressive strength. It is just there to keep it from folding over. Quite simply, when something is built in compression, then the forces which try to destroy it (mass and gravity) are directed in such a way that the force presses them together, rather than ripping them apart. It is a simple concept, and yet you don't seem to have a grasp on it.

You are acting like the most important design element of the entire vehicle, is the placement of the fucking tool box, then saying that you had to build the hoop around it. Let's just say that my priorities would have been the cage, and then the tool box. Different strokes, I suppose. I never said anything about the triangulation. That seems fine to me, altho a bit unorthodox. What I am saying is that the hoop is poorly mounted, and in a hard impact, the tubes welded to the frame will rip off, quite easily. Your crayola illustration only shows what I already said, and does nothing to demonstrate anything other than what I already know. By all means, do a google search of roll bar main hoops, and if you can find a single pic of one not designed to be mounted at least partially in compression, I will be extremely surprised.


Use your age as an excuse, if that is what it takes to get you thru the day. I would have preferred that you just told me to fuck off. At least that would have shown some balls. Your build doesn't scare me in the least. I'll never ride in it, so why should it. As to my opinion, well, I'm not offering an opinion. I'm spelling out the facts. You are certainly free to disregard them, if you like, but that doesn't make them less true. If you think you are a better designer than all the folks who do this for a living, and actually understand things like force vectors, compression, shear, bending moments, etc, then who am I to dissuade you? Go on with your bad fucking self.

dude, all you ever do is bitch and raise hell around here. shut the fuck up. like you said yourself. its his shit and you dont have to ride in it.

dude, all you ever do is bitch and raise hell around here. shut the fuck up. like you said yourself. its his shit and you dont have to ride in it.

Thank god somebody agrees with me. I dont get it, at least trkklr and grumpy only flame when its needed and dont just go to random shit and offer no help along with bitching i know for a fact that seth and grumpy know the shit theyre talking about but dahoyle, i dont know about you, you never offer any constructive help and that is part of what this website is for. I dont know if you havent gotten layed in a few years or if you really are just an old man but god damn it, lighten the fuck up asshole

not so much that he was being a dick, but trying to be an e-know it all

I dont even see the argument trying to be made here. If the bed is structural like you said then the main hoop is not gonna shear.

I mean sure would a bar from the hoop to the frame horizontally and on a back angle add alot more shear strength sure.

I dont even see the argument trying to be made here. If the bed is structural like you said then the main hoop is not gonna shear.

I mean sure would a bar from the hoop to the frame horizontally and on a back angle add alot more shear strength sure.

the bed is very structural its got 4 crossmembers in it and is made of all 3/16ths..

dahoyle is correct on the design flaw in your rear hoop... But he's also being a bit of an Ass...

If you think about it having an X" from the top cab corners of the hoop down to to the top of the frame rails will keep the hoop from crushing and seperating from the frame in the event of a roll. The reason is the X tubes will be in compression pushing into the frame unlike the horizantal tubes you have that will be pulling away from the frame as the overkilled hoop you have pushes down and tears off of your frame.

The 3 tubes that mount your rock sliders do little to help in a roll because they are effectivly levers that will bend down like diving boards and tear off the frame due to them also being in shear.

Think of it as standing on a pole welded to the side of a beam, The pole bends down.

The extra bracing you have inside that hoop wil keep it from colapsing but it wont keep it from tearing off the frame. IT helps but not in the right way.

I would have moved the box and built a big x, but its your truck so do what you want...

Any plans for a full Exo or just a bed hoop for now?

you never offer any constructive help and that is part of what this website is for.

Seriously??? So because you don't understand, it isn't constructive? Every post I have made in this thread has been constructive criticism. You expected everyone to bend over and kiss your ass, and tell you how awesome it was. I didn't start out with some bland "it sucks" nonsense. I pointed out the flaws, and how to make it better. Guess you need to have everything spoon fed to you, and sugar coated, before it is "constructive".

Seriously??? So because you don't understand, it isn't constructive? Every post I have made in this thread has been constructive criticism. You expected everyone to bend over and kiss your ass, and tell you how awesome it was. I didn't start out with some bland "it sucks" nonsense. I pointed out the flaws, and how to make it better. Guess you need to have everything spoon fed to you, and sugar coated, before it is "constructive".

Perhaps the reason your "point" is not so well taken is because your posts are chock full of you being an ass, coming up with excuses for being an ass, and you trying to be smug with "it's not my shit, though, build it how you want".

Try sticking to the point and explaining yourself rather than being a dick. Then again, we all know that you're just trying to start shit, so how about you just click that big red X at the top right-hand corner of your browser and take a nap. :shaking:

Perhaps the reason your "point" is not so well taken is because your posts are chock full of you being an ass, coming up with excuses for being an ass, and you trying to be smug with "it's not my shit, though, build it how you want".

Try sticking to the point and explaining yourself rather than being a dick. Then again, we all know that you're just trying to start shit, so how about you just click that big red X at the top right-hand corner of your browser and take a nap. :shaking:

And..... yes

dahoyle is correct on the design flaw in your rear hoop... But he's also being a bit of an Ass...

If you think about it having an X" from the top cab corners of the hoop down to to the top of the frame rails will keep the hoop from crushing and seperating from the frame in the event of a roll. The reason is the X tubes will be in compression pushing into the frame unlike the horizantal tubes you have that will be pulling away from the frame as the overkilled hoop you have pushes down and tears off of your frame.

The 3 tubes that mount your rock sliders do little to help in a roll because they are effectivly levers that will bend down like diving boards and tear off the frame due to them also being in shear.

Think of it as standing on a pole welded to the side of a beam, The pole bends down.

The extra bracing you have inside that hoop wil keep it from colapsing but it wont keep it from tearing off the frame. IT helps but not in the right way.

I would have moved the box and built a big x, but its your truck so do what you want...

Any plans for a full Exo or just a bed hoop for now?

yea man i fully understand what you are saying, its just that at this moint in time im going to let what will happen take its course and if it snaps right off then ill be fucked and re do it how everyone else does it. And yea full exo is the main plan. As it stands now it is not just the hoop. But if everything ive done is mounted in shear then from what everyone has said everything that i have done on the whole truck will break off. Sliders, bed, cab, cage. So i dont know what to do.

And dahoyle, i do not want a god damn thing spoon fed to me, and i dont need anybody to tell me they think my shit is cool to keep me going through my day. Im sick of you and your shit in my thread, so just stay out

yea man i fully understand what you are saying, its just that at this point in time im going to let what will happen take its course and if it snaps right off then ill be fucked and re do it how everyone else does it. And yea full exo is the main plan. As it stands now it is not just the hoop. But if everything ive done is mounted in shear then from what everyone has said everything that i have done on the whole truck will break off. Sliders, bed, cab, cage. So i dont know what to do.

I'm sencing Sarcasm... :flipoff2:

I went back in your thread and looked at how you did your rock sliders, I didn't remember that they were only tied to the body and not the frame. I apologize they are not in shear. They are simply what I would consider part of the body, and you did a nice job replacing the floor and Rocker panels. But they do little to strengthen your ties from the cage to your frame.

The only thing that would of made it stronger is if you boatsided your rig with strong diagnol bracing and skinned them with a plate. Which is something you could still do to make your cage strong... That is what I did to give myself a firm structure for my cage to mount, because mounting my cage frame width was not an option up front, the back of my cage is frame width at the C-pilar. The A and B pilars of my cage tie into my boatsides, and the Boatsides tie into the frame, which comes full circle and ties together through crossmemembers and the skid plate wich is not pictured.

Right now all of the forces of the roll will be taken by body mounts (wich is not the best) and by the two tubes you have mounted to the sides of your frame (not Ideal) and the four bolts holding your bed on. My prediction is it will push your cage and bed way out of whack, You will probably walk away but your truck will not fair much better then if you didn't have an exo.

Do you trust your your body mounts, those two tubes, and the 4 bolts holding your bed on as the structural part of your cage to hold your rig together in the event of a roll?

If you look on the driver side of the tub the bottom corner of the front bumper points right at the pad that my cage mounts ontop of. directly bellow that is a 1"x1" square tube (there are 8 per Side every few inches that go to the frame, and 4 that I ran the same as you did to the tub).I used 2"x4" tubing to replace the Rockers and 3/16ths plate for the boatside.

Best pics I have of the boatside job, I wish I had some that were worth a shit when I was building them, But I dont, so here's what you get to illistrate my point.

Am I making sence? if not I will just click that big red X at the top right-hand corner of my browser and take a nap. :lmao:

http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae336/MNtal2/38819_105762869477413_100001311011911_44493_655799 8_n.jpg

http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae336/MNtal2/39156_105762702810763_100001311011911_44491_565437 6_n.jpg

:eek: I didnt realize your sliders weren't tied to the frame. Thats a definite at least with mounting the hoop like that.

MNtal does have a point. Are we talking 4 bolts holding that bed on? If so I would at least double the hardware or just burn it to the frame.

started floor fix by cutting out the pass side floor

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0301.jpg

replaced rotten support with 2x2 square tube

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0316.jpg

rock slider frame tie ins also 2x2 square

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0318.jpg

Now I really feel like an Ass... :shocked:

I'm not sure how I missed this picture, must of just looked at the first two and asumed it was atached only at the body, but indeed they are tied to the frame.

floor and slider done

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/live2ridewcc/PIC-0322.jpg

Regardless they still offer very littal verticle support to the top of the cage due to them being flat and not angled up, I'm Sorry for the Confusion...

hahaha yes my rock sliders indeed are tied into the frame. but i am not going to fuck with them just because they are in shear, ive been slamming down hard as fuck on those sliders since day one and theres nothing wrong with them. they arent shearing off the frame or bending or anything.

I'm sencing Sarcasm... :flipoff2:

I went back in your thread and looked at how you did your rock sliders, I didn't remember that they were only tied to the body and not the frame. I apologize they are not in shear. They are simply what I would consider part of the body, and you did a nice job replacing the floor and Rocker panels. But they do little to strengthen your ties from the cage to your frame.

The only thing that would of made it stronger is if you boatsided your rig with strong diagnol bracing and skinned them with a plate. Which is something you could still do to make your cage strong... That is what I did to give myself a firm structure for my cage to mount, because mounting my cage frame width was not an option up front, the back of my cage is frame width at the C-pilar. The A and B pilars of my cage tie into my boatsides, and the Boatsides tie into the frame, which comes full circle and ties together through crossmemembers and the skid plate wich is not pictured.

Right now all of the forces of the roll will be taken by body mounts (wich is not the best) and by the two tubes you have mounted to the sides of your frame (not Ideal) and the four bolts holding your bed on. My prediction is it will push your cage and bed way out of whack, You will probably walk away but your truck will not fair much better then if you didn't have an exo.

Do you trust your your body mounts, those two tubes, and the 4 bolts holding your bed on as the structural part of your cage to hold your rig together in the event of a roll?

If you look on the driver side of the tub the bottom corner of the front bumper points right at the pad that my cage mounts ontop of. directly bellow that is a 1"x1" square tube (there are 8 per Side every few inches that go to the frame, and 4 that I ran the same as you did to the tub).I used 2"x4" tubing to replace the Rockers and 3/16ths plate for the boatside.

Best pics I have of the boatside job, I wish I had some that were worth a shit when I was building them, But I dont, so here's what you get to illistrate my point.

Am I making sence? if not I will just click that big red X at the top right-hand corner of my browser and take a nap. :lmao:

http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae336/MNtal2/38819_105762869477413_100001311011911_44493_655799 8_n.jpg

http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae336/MNtal2/39156_105762702810763_100001311011911_44491_565437 6_n.jpg

this doesnt apply anymore does it? since you thought i didnt have the tie ins at this time? is there anything i could do to my slider tie in tubes to make them support the cabe better? like give them a bigget footprint on the frame or triangulate them? im not really in the boatsiding state of mind as of right now. i like that i have a full cab and i personally think my rock sliders are the best choice i made on the whole truck.

I'm sencing Sarcasm... :flipoff2:

I went back in your thread and looked at how you did your rock sliders, I didn't remember that they were only tied to the body and not the frame. I apologize they are not in shear. They are simply what I would consider part of the body, and you did a nice job replacing the floor and Rocker panels. But they do little to strengthen your ties from the cage to your frame.

The only thing that would of made it stronger is if you boatsided your rig with strong diagnol bracing and skinned them with a plate. Which is something you could still do to make your cage strong... That is what I did to give myself a firm structure for my cage to mount, because mounting my cage frame width was not an option up front, the back of my cage is frame width at the C-pilar. The A and B pilars of my cage tie into my boatsides, and the Boatsides tie into the frame, which comes full circle and ties together through crossmemembers and the skid plate wich is not pictured.

Right now all of the forces of the roll will be taken by body mounts (wich is not the best) and by the two tubes you have mounted to the sides of your frame (not Ideal) and the four bolts holding your bed on. My prediction is it will push your cage and bed way out of whack, You will probably walk away but your truck will not fair much better then if you didn't have an exo.

Do you trust your your body mounts, those two tubes, and the 4 bolts holding your bed on as the structural part of your cage to hold your rig together in the event of a roll?

If you look on the driver side of the tub the bottom corner of the front bumper points right at the pad that my cage mounts ontop of. directly bellow that is a 1"x1" square tube (there are 8 per Side every few inches that go to the frame, and 4 that I ran the same as you did to the tub).I used 2"x4" tubing to replace the Rockers and 3/16ths plate for the boatside.

Best pics I have of the boatside job, I wish I had some that were worth a shit when I was building them, But I dont, so here's what you get to illistrate my point.

Am I making sence? if not I will just click that big red X at the top right-hand corner of my browser and take a nap. :lmao:

http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae336/MNtal2/38819_105762869477413_100001311011911_44493_655799 8_n.jpg

http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae336/MNtal2/39156_105762702810763_100001311011911_44491_565437 6_n.jpg

this doesnt apply anymore does it? since you thought i didnt have the tie ins at this time? is there anything i could do to my slider tie in tubes to make them support the cabe better? like give them a bigget footprint on the frame or triangulate them? im not really in the boatsiding state of mind as of right now. i like that i have a full cab and i personally think my rock sliders are the best choice i made on the whole truck since they have now saved my cab numerous times.

The sliders are mounted in shear but the hoop to the sliders are not.

The sliders are mounted in shear but the hoop to the sliders are not.



Hmmm, let me think about that for a sec. A hoop, mounted in compression to sliders mounted in shear, as it relates to the frame.....

That makes the hoop mounted in shear.

Seriously, it isn't so gawdawful bad as a lot of shit I have seen, but since you seem to be slowly coming around to reality, Blazerboy, why not just move the toolbox back 3 inches and rework your hoop-frame tie-ins.

MNtal: do you think it would it help if i put a tube from the 45 degree tube down to the frame inbetween the fixed leaf mount? or from the joint where the 45 meets up with the horizontal to the same spot on the frame?

move the toolbox back 3 inches and rework your hoop-frame tie-ins.

I was going to sugjest this...

Green being the frame tie ins

http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae336/MNtal2/IMG_0727.jpg

Idealy the down tubes of the x would hit the top of the frame...

How securely is your bed mounted to the frame?

MNtal: do you think it would it help if i put a tube from the 45 degree tube down to the frame inbetween the fixed leaf mount? or from the joint where the 45 meets up with the horizontal to the same spot on the frame?

Ya know I was drawing a picture to tell you to add that and didnt feel like uploading lol. Yes do that.

And Dahoyle yes as related to the frame that does still put the hoop in shear but like I said the hoop isnt immediately mounted to the sliders in shear. IE at the very least the support of the hoop is at multiple locations in shear due to how many mounting points the sliders have.

All in all my point is that despite the sliders being mounted in shear its not like the main hoop is tied in at 1 or 2 points in shear. The hoop is mounted to the sliders in compression and the sliders have 4 or 5 legs tieing them to the frame not to mention that their welded to the body (granted alone that would be weak but couples with the legs it only adds strength and rigidity).

In the end sure the main hoop to frame is shear but in 10 damn places on both sides, not to mention the 2 points on the side of the frame for the bed, plus the 45* idea he just posted I think he'll be damn fine.


Just step back and think. If a shear joint is idk a 1/4 the strength of a compression joint then the fact that its mounted in 12 spots really does make up for it in structural integritty

http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae336/MNtal2/IMG_0725.jpg

This would help... but if its to straight up and down its kind of redundant...

rOnin89 said it, and I agree, It will be fine, its not great, but it will serve the purpose.

Damn lookin good what size tires are those.

39.5's x 15 TSL's with a 16.5 x 12 rim...its on page 6 :D

got some toys :grinpimp: hypertherm powermax 600, jd2 model 3 bender with air over hydro, came with 4 dies, 5/8", 1", 1 1/2", 2". a little air conmpressor....not relly big enough to power the plasma and bender.but for now its ok. and i got a dewalt chop saw. goin to pick up a jet drill press this monday.

When are you going to put those toys to use?

Yeah holy crap its been a month since this thread was up! Lets see some updates cause god knows I'm not buildin my truck right now :D

i need a 1.75 die to finish my cage. ive decided to chop about a foot out of my bed and frame, relocate my gas tank, 1/4 elliptical four link it and im going to do the rear half of my cage (not changing my hoop) kinda like the picture below

and the reason im relocating my gas tank is because it and the rubicon got into some almost fatal fights:( other than that my august trip to the con was awesome! truck did great

i dont have any more videos right now but i do have this......oh and this

the second one is just a sneek peak :D

Have you thought of running your brake line on top of the axle. Looks like they would get pinched if you had to slide the rear over a rock and it came down hard on the spring..

Have you thought of running your brake line on top of the axle. Looks like they would get pinched if you had to slide the rear over a rock and it came down hard on the spring..

yea ive thought about shit like that. the biggest thing i was worried about is if i drove over a fallen down tree or something and a branch caught one of the rear lines and ripped it off. so when i do my four link im going to re route them. good eye

i upgraded work my space. got sick of the city harassing me and worrying about people fucking with my shit so here it is. it isnt huge but it will work, especially once the shop owner moves his el camino.

Looks like a great spot.
Ill have to stop by n check it out in person

hell yea just let me know when and ill give you directions

axle moved back 3 inches

uh oh :D

got some toys :grinpimp: hypertherm powermax 600, jd2 model 3 bender with air over hydro, came with 4 dies, 5/8", 1", 1 1/2", 2". a little air conmpressor....not relly big enough to power the plasma and bender.but for now its ok. and i got a dewalt chop saw. goin to pick up a jet drill press this monday.

hey just wondering did you get the bender from a guy down in san jose? Looks familiar like the one my cuz sold a while back on cl. He's hating the fact he sold it lol, cause he just picked up an old cj he wanted to put a cage in.

hey just wondering did you get the bender from a guy down in san jose? Looks familiar like the one my cuz sold a while back on cl. He's hating the fact he sold it lol, cause he just picked up an old cj he wanted to put a cage in.

Yep i got it from chris. I was checkin out your truck when i picked it up.

your shop is sweet.

your shop is sweet.

Thanks alot! Its nice to finally be able to have a spot where i can work till 4 in the morning and not worry about noise. Im just waiting on getting my mill so i can start making the good stuff.

some progress

new truss not event close to done

You're welcome for the axle, douchebag.

You're welcome for the axle, douchebag.

wasnt your axle to give

i think im leaning toward the tire being a little higher in the back as apposed to being even with the down tubes

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Looks good! I cant wait to see it done.

Looks good! I cant wait to see it done.

neither can i, getting all my heims tomorrow as long as they come in, ruffstuff 1 1/4's all around. i hope they dont bring on the suck

i think im basically done

That looks fuckin sick!!!!!!!!!!!

Looks very nice... But that horizontal hoop running to the back could use more tie-ins, IMO.

Looks very nice... But that horizontal hoop running to the back could use more tie-ins, IMO.

yea thats what im planning but i want to wait till i get my axle in there all mounted up with tires so i can make sure i wont get any rubbage

should be more than strong enough

hey perry that truck looks familiar! so get crakin on yr 4link already, you have everything you'll need

hey perry that truck looks familiar! so get crakin on yr 4link already, you have everything you'll need

Im getting on it, after i make my threaded bungs on johns lathe ittl be together quick.

Isnt it going to be a PITA to get in your tool box with the spare mounted directly over it?

Isnt it going to be a PITA to get in your tool box with the spare mounted directly over it?

Doesn't look like it opens from the top, rather, the back, so I don't see why it would be that much more difficult.

Isnt it going to be a PITA to get in your tool box with the spare mounted directly over it?


Doesn't look like it opens from the top, rather, the back, so I don't see why it would be that much more difficult.

the box will actually be easier to get into now since it has always been blocked by the tire since i built it. now theres nothing to block it at all. i was noticing the other day that even though i cut over a foot off the bed and frame i am going to have more room for shit due to the fact that the tire isnt taking up the bed space. im really happy with how that aspect of it turned out

Doesn't look like it opens from the top, rather, the back, so I don't see why it would be that much more difficult.

Holy crap how did I miss that, it does open from the front.

got a few things done. finished making all my bungs and put the lower links together, also did a couple more tie ins on the cage, gotta do the passenger side now. and last off i made a pinion guard.

Finally some updates :flipoff2: And a say that cause somehow I didnt catch anything from november and december...

Very nice build, Great looking Chevy, I like what ya did to the back of the truck, Im drawing something like that up for mine, But I havent desided what I really want yet.. Keep up the good work, Cant wait for some more Vids..

pics on how ya made the pinion gaurd?

pics on how ya made the pinion gaurd?

I actually didnt take any pics while i was making it. I used my mill with rotary table to cut out the middle and drilled the holes on the mill as well. And for the actual guard peices i used one peice of stell and cut slits in it where i wanted the bends and bent it. Then i welded it all up.

I actually didnt take any pics while i was making it. I used my mill with rotary table to cut out the middle and drilled the holes on the mill as well. And for the actual guard peices i used one peice of stell and cut slits in it where i wanted the bends and bent it. Then i welded it all up.

Where does one acquire this new material "stell"? I'd like to make a skid plate with it perhaps.















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Where does one acquire this new material "stell"? I'd like to make a skid plate with it perhaps.















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Hahahah yea spelling on my phone sucks ass. What sucks even worse is having to use the internet sitting in my truck outside starbucks...

Hahahah yea spelling on my phone sucks ass. What sucks even worse is having to use the internet sitting in my truck outside starbucks...

Priorities! Truck>Net

putting it through its paces a bit to check for binding.

1.to the ground 2. up high not fully up though 3. a little articulation. no binding at all

Looking very good! I'm pricing my 4link right now...

Looks awesome!

Looking very good! I'm pricing my 4link right now...

I have a grand total of 45 bucks into mine........