: York on a SBC


Erik D_lux
09-07-2001, 10:46 PM
Anybody have some pics of the mounting brackets for the SBC? <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

Benny
09-08-2001, 03:46 AM
Also, which companies sell them? web sites and pictures would be great.

I made a mount for mine which worked alright, but there wasnt enough adjustment in it.

Erik D_lux
09-08-2001, 04:30 AM
Benny do you have a picture of yours?

Charly
09-08-2001, 05:40 AM
Sorry, just another request.

I'd like info on a York mount (fab ideas/pics) for a 87 and newer SBC.

High5
09-08-2001, 05:46 AM
leader (he uses this board but only on week days) just got done building one for his. you might ask him.

dirtrod
09-08-2001, 06:39 AM
I can't help ya with the york brackets, but, I wonder why you wouldn't use a harris compressor on a gm engine, it would bolt on with factory brackets, they are fairly light and alot less bulky.

SweetCJ7
09-08-2001, 07:23 AM
Harris Comp? What kind of volume are we talking about? Where can we look up specs for it? I am eventually going to add on board air on a '87 TPI 350 and I was wondering where to get a serpentine clutch and pulley for a york.

H8monday
09-08-2001, 07:54 AM
You can get the serpentine clutch and pulley from any Kenworth dealer. They are about $65 new. They carry many different rib sizes and pulley diameters. They also carry new Yorks.

Charly
09-08-2001, 08:20 AM
H8,

Checked out my local Freightliner dealer, they wanted $100 for a serp.belt York clutch.

I wish they were only $65.

I'm still looking for one of the elusive early 80s 4banger Mustangs that had them.

Charly

dirtrod
09-08-2001, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by SweetCJ7:
<STRONG>Harris Comp? What kind of volume are we talking about? Where can we look up specs for it? I am eventually going to add on board air on a '87 TPI 350 and I was wondering where to get a serpentine clutch and pulley for a york.</STRONG>

There are several different sizes, they are the units that comes with a GM factory A/C system... I don't have any specs. , but I've used them for years. You need to add a seperate oiler plumbed into the intake side.

pcorssmit
09-08-2001, 11:37 AM
Try searching on ColoradoK5, somebody posted a pic of one they made there recently.

I'm running the original '83 long GM pump on mine, output is good, but I plan to switch to a York at some point to get around the oiling thing. I would like to see a volume comparison though, if its better I may just add an oiler to what I've got.

Pete

BIGJ
09-08-2001, 01:22 PM
Here is a pic from my 87 GMC

http://www.holsted.com/york/york1.jpg

Jeff

Benny
09-08-2001, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by Erik Dlux:
<STRONG>Benny do you have a picture of yours?</STRONG>

Here is the pic. The problem it that the pivot point is to close to the pully so there is little or no adjustment in it. I did have the Toyota P/S pump located in front of the thermostat housing and use that to adjust the belt. I have decided to find a chevy p/s pump to use in the stock location, so this leaves me without a way to tension the belt. Does anyone know of any tensioners that would work?

<IMG width=360 height=273 SRC="http://www.pirate4x4.com/ubb/uploads/bennyyork01.jpg">

I made the mound from the stock Volvo mount. just cut and welded.

Edit: Forgot to post the pic. <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

[ 09-08-2001: Message edited by: Benny ]

FJ4ZROX
09-09-2001, 09:15 AM
I have made a bracket for a York on a SBC. It is adjustable using a turnbuckle and set up of be mounted on the driver side - above the PS pump.

After searching for a company that made them, I found most people said they made their own and a pre-fab unit would probably sell. So, I have 10 of them being made at a local fabricator. I'll try to get a picture posted later today of my "proto-type" which is on my Chevy powered FJ40.

Anyone interested in buying one? I'm thinking $150 - with all parts and hardware (bracket, braces, and turnbuckle w/hiem joints at the ends).

Later......Bruce in Redding, CA

TPIJeep
09-09-2001, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by FJ4ZROX:
<STRONG>I have made a bracket for a York on a SBC. It is adjustable using a turnbuckle and set up of be mounted on the driver side - above the PS pump.

After searching for a company that made them, I found most people said they made their own and a pre-fab unit would probably sell. So, I have 10 of them being made at a local fabricator. I'll try to get a picture posted later today of my "proto-type" which is on my Chevy powered FJ40.

Anyone interested in buying one? I'm thinking $150 - with all parts and hardware (bracket, braces, and turnbuckle w/hiem joints at the ends).

Later......Bruce in Redding, CA</STRONG>

Lets see some pics, I have been trying to figure out how to connect mine with no luck...

Fullreversal
09-09-2001, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by Charly:

I'm still looking for one of the elusive early 80s 4banger Mustangs that had them.




I found one, and the SBC serpentine belt is too wide for the mustang york clutch. pissed me off to say the least... I really wanted a york, but I use my Harris / GM R4 compressor. check out my writeup at http://s10-4x4.com/OnBoardAir/

Charly
09-09-2001, 05:40 PM
Thanks for the tip. I appreciate it.

coyote
09-09-2001, 09:41 PM
I found a table top mount but it puts the compressor far forward and hit my fan...no pics but companies made them...and it worked horn or vert...above power steering...

FNG
09-10-2001, 02:08 PM
There was an add in one of the recent rags (Peterson's maybe) for a York OBA system for a SBC. Might be worth looking at.

Lloyd
09-10-2001, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by Benny:
<STRONG> Does anyone know of any tensioners that would work?[ 09-08-2001: Message edited by: Benny ]</STRONG>
Try the tensioner for a mid-70's Ford a/c belt. They bolt to a flat plate (which you can weld onto your York bracket at a 90 degree angle) and just have one bolt. The pulley is offset and the adjustment is made by camming the tensioner out against the belt with an end wrench, then tighteneng that one bolt. Simple and effective, looks like a good bet for your setup.

Benny
01-25-2002, 12:17 AM
I know this is an old post, but I still need a bracket. actually, I need 2 of them. Anyone have any new ideas or sources?

Thanks

DaveWFO
01-25-2002, 12:29 AM
You might want to check this out to give you some ideas, They do have one for 1988-1996 Chevy small block

This gives you a good view of the braket
http://onboardair.com/ke-26710/ke-26710.html

http://onboardair.com/

Cheers

Charly
01-25-2002, 04:58 AM
That's interesting....I wonder if having the York there (kilby's) will fit into my engine bay.

Also there is a pic in the newest JP mag of a CJ8 with a 350 TBI and a York mounted where the stock AC compressor was...not a close up pic, but at least it will offer an idea. it looks like some funky pulley on it though.

Benny
01-25-2002, 08:03 AM
Dave, thanks for the link.

That setup should work for my dad, but unfortunately it wont work for me.

I have a '72 350 in my '81 Toyota. There is no room over there to mount it like that. Also, I cant put my alternator on top of the engine because I have a short water pump. Anyone else have an idea? There has to be something out there.

Benny
01-25-2002, 08:07 AM
Also, does anyonr have a source for Heavy Duty air tanks? I need atleast 10 gallons, the bigger the better. It needs to hold 180 lbs pressure. This setup will be used on a service truck (dad owns tire shop) and needs to power a 1" drive truck gun.

I bet they are spendy though...:(

FJ4ZROX
01-25-2002, 08:17 AM
I have a bracket I designed that mounts above the PS pump/reservoir onthe drivers side of the engine. It is adjustable for belt tension and has worked well for me. I'll post a pic later today/tonight.

BTW - I took the bracket to a fabricator to make 10-15 of them, since I keep getting questions about mine. Hope to have them ready FS in the next few weeks.

hewl35
01-25-2002, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by Benny Boy
Also, does anyonr have a source for Heavy Duty air tanks? I need atleast 10 gallons, the bigger the better. It needs to hold 180 lbs pressure. This setup will be used on a service truck (dad owns tire shop) and needs to power a 1" drive truck gun.

I bet they are spendy though...:(
Big Rig wrecking yards are loaded with air brake tanks. Some trailers have massive ones. Don't forget military trucks also.

hewl35
01-25-2002, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by Benny Boy
Also, does anyonr have a source for Heavy Duty air tanks? I need atleast 10 gallons, the bigger the better. It needs to hold 180 lbs pressure. This setup will be used on a service truck (dad owns tire shop) and needs to power a 1" drive truck gun.

I bet they are spendy though...:(
Big Rig wrecking yards are loaded with air brake tanks. Some trailers have massive ones. Don't forget military trucks also.

arndog
01-25-2002, 11:37 AM
fabbed mine up myself. It is a mess but works great.

email me for pictures if you want them. I have to warn you they don't really show how it is actually mounted and the pictures don't show the brackets to well

arndog

Erik D_lux
03-09-2003, 09:49 PM
Some requested pics

Erik D_lux
03-09-2003, 09:50 PM
4 da homies

Erik D_lux
03-09-2003, 09:51 PM
1

Erik D_lux
03-09-2003, 09:52 PM
4

Triaged
03-10-2003, 12:39 AM
I got my bracket (with attached York) off of a 73 p/u.:flipoff2:
It mounts on a SBC with a long water pump. It sits right in the middle of the motor above the water pump and has 2 (no idea why 2?) idler pullies on it.

Too bad I can't use it:mad: because I have a short water pump.

And no it isn't for sale...but I would trade it for a mount that fits my motor...York included:D

texican
02-21-2004, 01:34 PM
Does anyone know FJ4ZROX and if he ever got brackets to sell?
He is not resoponding to PM's or emails...his last post here was 05-23-2003 01:28 PM, and he is in Redding Ca.:confused:
Butch

rvgjeep1
02-21-2004, 01:46 PM
How about one from a serpentine belt motor(SBC). I have been using the stock AC compressor for about 4 years(1 per season) and would like to install the york. Kilby Enterprises selss all that stuff though.

1tonyj
02-21-2004, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by texican
Does anyone know FJ4ZROX and if he ever got brackets to sell?
He is not resoponding to PM's or emails...his last post here was 05-23-2003 01:28 PM, and he is in Redding Ca.:confused:
Butch

I tried to contact him back then also, with no response. I would like to talk to him if he comes around.

xBabyJesus
02-21-2004, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by Charly
That's interesting....I wonder if having the York there (kilby's) will fit into my engine bay.

Also there is a pic in the newest JP mag of a CJ8 with a 350 TBI and a York mounted where the stock AC compressor was...not a close up pic, but at least it will offer an idea. it looks like some funky pulley on it though.

CJ7, serpentine york on a TBI 350 stock GM accessories and a Kilby bracket:

http://www.xbabyjesus.org/kujo/engine2.jpg

Keith
02-21-2004, 02:31 PM
smurffab

Keith
02-21-2004, 02:32 PM
more

Randall Edge
02-21-2004, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by Charly
H8,

Checked out my local Freightliner dealer, they wanted $100 for a serp.belt York clutch.

I wish they were only $65.

I'm still looking for one of the elusive early 80s 4banger Mustangs that had them.

Charly Have you seen the price on a new Freightliner? Your lucky if you can get any parts for one for less than $500 from the dealer. Go to store that caters to all big rigs. I got my clutch from a Fleet Pride store for $68.

The only Mustang I ever saw with a serp York was a '79 and it had a puny serp belt that only had about 4 grooves.

Erik D_lux
02-21-2004, 09:54 PM
Thats some funny shit when somebody pulls up an old post. Everybody acts like it was just posted to day or something. :laughing:

This thread is from 01. 2.5yrs old!!:eek:

texican
02-22-2004, 02:30 AM
:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Oh well, it saved me lots of time thinkin'....... look for the post on the LC section...BTW thanks, we are copying your bracket.
BUtch

Charly
02-22-2004, 05:50 AM
Originally posted by Randall Edge
Have you seen the price on a new Freightliner? Your lucky if you can get any parts for one for less than $500 from the dealer. Go to store that caters to all big rigs. I got my clutch from a Fleet Pride store for $68.

The only Mustang I ever saw with a serp York was a '79 and it had a puny serp belt that only had about 4 grooves.

yeah.....old post.

Since then Kilby came out with the above pictured bracket ($35) to replace the stock AC pump with the York, that is what I have now.

I never found a Mustang with a serp clutch, but then again I stopped looking after the first person mentioned that it's different rib counts. :D

As far as Freightliner, I went to one down here in Portland (same owner as the other one I got the above quote from) and this time it was only $80, so I went with that.

BTW, that stock GM/Harris AC pump that came on the TBI engines didn't hold up for me at all, I tried 2, both blew while trying to fill up my tank the first time.

Then I saw Kilby was making the new bracket, for $35 you can't beat it. I did have to use a different belt than what Kilby has on his site though, for some reason. I needed Gates K061020.

fj40charles
02-22-2004, 07:11 AM
You can get a brand new York compressor with a serpentine clutch from this guy. Much cheaper than Kilby.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6763&item=2460879003

I ended up using a York compressor from a early 80 volvo.
The serpentine clutch is from Kilby.
Cut one side of the bracket off and welded it to the accessory mount (mine is steel). At the time, Kilby did not offer a kit to do this.

fj40charles
02-22-2004, 07:12 AM
Another pic.... All of the fabrication was done by Jewell Bohannan.

fj40charles
02-22-2004, 07:17 AM
Here is a serpentine clutch on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33543&item=2461587566

bobdog
02-22-2004, 10:09 AM
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid95/pc0b541ed553ed61832abfb8dac163339/fa28637c.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid95/p5e03e65388b30add1240373460fabbd5/fa263196.jpg

Erik D_lux
02-22-2004, 10:10 AM
While the post is up I guess I will add to it.....

The design I did worked ok. I had some problems with the belt staying tight and also the mount wobbled a bit.

I ended up adding a brace and then I tapped out the mounting holes from the 3/8" to a 1/2". The 1/2" hold it so good. :D

Erik D_lux
02-22-2004, 10:12 AM
1

Erik D_lux
02-22-2004, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by texican
:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Oh well, it saved me lots of time thinkin'....... look for the post on the LC section...BTW thanks, we are copying your bracket.
BUtch

Its sweet that you searched newbie :flipoff2:

texican
02-22-2004, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by Erik D_lux


Its sweet that you searched newbie :flipoff2: :p :p :p Here's ours finished, I did not see your updated pix, but we decided it needs another brace.
I'll post the full set over on LC later.
Butch

texican
02-22-2004, 04:46 PM
Our version (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=225305)

chvy boat
02-23-2004, 06:01 PM
May or may not help. but I have a 5.7 vortec sbc, where I mounted the york on the passanger side. I used a dual serp/ v belt overdrive pulley that runs off my alternator from onboardair.com like 40 bucks.

if you are interested in pic pm me.

1tonyj
02-24-2004, 06:26 AM
Erid_D_Lux

I see that you are running your York, via V-belt on the PS pulley. You have the same exact setup as mine. Do you have hydro assist steering? I was going to do the same, but decided that i would put it under alt on the pass side instead and run it off the alt/crank pulley instead. My thinking was that i did not want to take away from the PS pump. Any logic to this thinking or am i just being rediculous?

Erik D_lux
02-24-2004, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by 1tonyj
Erid_D_Lux

I see that you are running your York, via V-belt on the PS pulley. You have the same exact setup as mine. Do you have hydro assist steering? I was going to do the same, but decided that i would put it under alt on the pass side instead and run it off the alt/crank pulley instead. My thinking was that i did not want to take away from the PS pump. Any logic to this thinking or am i just being rediculous?

I guess there is some logic. What are you going to be using your OBA for? I only use it for the air itself. I dont use it for an ARB or anything. I dont leave mine on when I am driving anyway. When its not engaged it dosent pull hardly at all on the PS pump. I dont even think it notices.

Keith
02-24-2004, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by texican
:p :p :p Here's ours finished, I did not see your updated pix, but we decided it needs another brace.
I'll post the full set over on LC later.
Butch Running TBI heads on the early small block huh?

texican
02-24-2004, 03:59 PM
This rig is full Hydro, even with the compressor engaged the wheel turns with no effort lock to lock, you get a chirp when you bounce it off the steering stops, but every Hydro or ram assist I have seen does this........

Kieth, those are World aluminum angle plugged heads.

Butch

1tonyj
02-25-2004, 07:15 AM
Originally posted by Erik D_lux


I guess there is some logic. What are you going to be using your OBA for? I only use it for the air itself. I dont use it for an ARB or anything. I dont leave mine on when I am driving anyway. When its not engaged it dosent pull hardly at all on the PS pump. I dont even think it notices.


I see your logic there also! I guess when the clutch is NOT engaged on the York there would be no slight drag on the PS pump.