Has anyone taken a 2WD Tracker t-case and put it in front of a stock 4WD sami case. Then, both could receive lower gearsets for even lower reduction.

If you could lower the Sami case for the front driveshaft to clear, you could potentially have 475:1 crawl with less than $3000 invested in everything ($1000 in Calmini Sidekick gears, $1000 in RR 6:1 gears, and $1000 in the 5.12 gear swap from Trail Tough)

Being a Suzuki newbie, this has probably been hashed out before, but if it hasn't, is there anything wrong with this concept?

Matt

Hmmmmm...A 2wd tracker t-case?:confused:

i don't think 2wd track/kicks had t-cases, they went from the tranny to the diffs, thats why people use the trac/kick 1.6L and 2wd tranny so they keep there stock t-case and shorty shaft......

but i might be wrong:flipoff2:

DOH! Maybe THAT's why I hadn't heard of it before......

Now I really feel dumb.

Anyway... I was thinking of the Tracker case because of it being a center output case.

Perhaps it would be possible with a Sami case, but the offsets would kinda be screwy...

Matt (will go back in the corner and lurk some more)

i have heard of people using the 4wd case............ like using the 1.6, kick tranny, kick t-case, and then the samurai t-case, and i THINK(but i may be mistaken) that azrockcrawler is doing this to his project "MP" right now....... he might have something on his web site at www.azrockcrawler.com if you look........ if i got his addy wrong sorry, and he has a link in his sig......... but you'd have to block off the front out-put or it will leak out all the gear lube.........:D

LOL,
thats the second time ive seen someone mention a 2wd t-case

Id be racing for that delete button if it were me

A 2WD Samurai DOES have a transfer case, but not a Tracker.

yeah, samurai, not trac/kick............:flipoff2:

Noway, haha...... why in gods name would they do that? SO they dont have to make longer driveshafts? Goofy! To bad my buddy had a 2WD but there was no drivetrain..

one advan. no shifter hole to leak from, you could mount it any way you wanted with no oil leak

I was thinking abotu the 2wd transfer from a sammy has any one ever used this to lower gears? Stacking them I mean.

Originally posted by FLEXYSAMMY
I was thinking abotu the 2wd transfer from a sammy has any one ever used this to lower gears? Stacking them I mean.
The 2wd case is straight 1:1 gearing, no low, no shifter. The only reason it is in there is because the rear end is offset and I guess they figured it was cheaper to use a "dummy" transfer case then to change to a centered rear end.

If you use an OTT Industries adapter you can put Calmini gears in the reduction section of the kick t-case and the output can go to a sammy t-case with 6:1. This lets you use a kick 4wd tranny.

My Q is how to keep anything after the kick reduction box together if you wedge the truck somewhere.

"The 2wd case is straight 1:1 gearing"


Really.. I though they used the same 1.41:1 as the stock Zuk Hi range no?

Here's the OTT Kicker II setup, but I guess you need to move your stock Tcase back to get this all to fit.

Click Here for KickerII info! (http://www.ottindustries.com/suzuki_kicker.html)

Originally posted by 350Samurai

The 2wd case is straight 1:1 gearing, no low, no shifter. The only reason it is in there is because the rear end is offset and I guess they figured it was cheaper to use a "dummy" transfer case then to change to a centered rear end.


Wrong, the 2wd t-case is 1.409:1....

Originally posted by mud-magnet
i have heard of people using the 4wd case............ like using the 1.6, kick tranny, kick t-case, and then the samurai t-case, and i THINK(but i may be mistaken) that azrockcrawler is doing this to his project "MP" right now....... he might have something on his web site at www.azrockcrawler.com if you look........ if i got his addy wrong sorry, and he has a link in his sig......... but you'd have to block off the front out-put or it will leak out all the gear lube.........:D

That's my plan, except I an going to leave the low end stock on the kick tcase (1.8:1). After I get the yellow one running I'll be tryining to get the drivetrain of MP all laid out in the frame. I suspect 90% of the time you wouldn't need to engage the kick case, just keep it in reserve in case you needed an extra bit of crawl. Here's my gearing calculations (http://www.azrockcrawler.com/_images/projectmp/projectmp1/projectmp.html) , might save someone some time.

Originally posted by billj



Wrong, the 2wd t-case is 1.409:1....

You're right, I stand corrected.