: i need a source for a cummins 4bt...


SkaerE
08-17-2002, 01:18 PM
what did they originally come in? not dodge trucks, heard of some in UPS trucks.

where does anyone think i could find one? (or at least a place to start looking)

and yes, i searched...didnt find anything here though...

thanks

gunracer1
08-17-2002, 01:32 PM
the only place i have found them is in 1 ton step vans, that are bread deliver trucks aroud here. every one i have seen has has a sm 465 behind it. but beware they vibrate like hell and are noisy. i don't think they would be much fun on the trail. as in they are loud enough that your spotter has to yell for you to here anything. i was going to build up a 6 cyl cumins rig for the trail, but i finally decided that it was just to damn noisy.

mudtruck44
08-17-2002, 01:36 PM
Farm equiptment, stuff like that.

desertCJ
08-17-2002, 01:49 PM
6 cyl cummins are damn heavy! I wouldn't use one for a trail rig;)

SkaerE
08-17-2002, 01:55 PM
awwww come on now, they're only about 900 lbs :)

Grndhog
08-17-2002, 03:38 PM
Not sure but isn`t the 4B just under 500LB ? I haven`t seen any where on this end of VA to pick one up. Try to find a salvage yard that deals with big trucks and heavy equipment.

TERRA-IZER
08-17-2002, 03:44 PM
1 ton Step Vans, Like bread delivery vans. My buddies have just picked up 2 of them for the engines and trannies for less than $1700, one has a SM465 and the other a 435 behind them. Plus you get a good storage shed after your pull the drivetrain out of them.

gunracer1
08-17-2002, 03:54 PM
a lot of the new bobcat style skid loaders have them in them also. i just had my head up my ass. and also in the case front end loader tractors and more than a few back hoe's.

Dan 0
08-17-2002, 08:19 PM
up here we get hostes chip trucks in our shop that have these engines in them,on our computers they come up as a GM p3500.both have autos behind them and they move the piece of shit trucks along quite well. ;)

hewl35
08-19-2002, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by SkaerE
what did they originally come in? not dodge trucks, heard of some in UPS trucks.

where does anyone think i could find one? (or at least a place to start looking)

and yes, i searched...didnt find anything here though...

thanks

Adelmans in Ohio. I think the website is www.adelman.com look in the military section or engine section.

geargrinder
08-20-2002, 11:12 AM
I think this is the link hewl meant



http://adelmans.com/engines.htm

hewl35
08-20-2002, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by geargrinder
I think this is the link hewl meant



http://adelmans.com/engines.htm

That's the one.
Thanks Geargrinder

dieselcruiserhead
08-21-2002, 04:52 PM
Here's some picts of a bread truck with one in it. At first I couldn't find one anywhere but the more I started looking I found them all over the place. There's a junk yard north of Boston about 30 minutes that has about 5 of them for $1500 each, best deal I found. Too bad I can't remember the place!

http://www.cisautoweb.com/dtlc/4btimages/bennett.jpg

http://www.cisautoweb.com/dtlc/4btimages/cummins1.jpg

road1will
08-21-2002, 05:16 PM
cruiserhead, you have GOT to find that place again! i live about 30min west of BOS and would love to go check out those motors, and would be happy to for anyone else also.

let me know!!!

Oxjockey
08-21-2002, 05:41 PM
FYI, there's a Cummins Conversions (http://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=30) forum on TDR (http://www.turbodieselregister.com).

Bryan

dieselcruiserhead
08-22-2002, 12:38 PM
I'll try but I've actually been looking for the link for a little while now - they do have a web site. I just sent an email to the guy who first forwarded me the link and we'll see what he says. Here's a neat link too for anyone interested in the conversion, something to whet the appetite :)

http://www.garbee.net/~cabell/

Andre

dieselcruiserhead
08-22-2002, 12:40 PM
PS! If I find it finder's fee means when I buy one you might have to go check it out for me! I'd totally appreciate it!

Andre in Park City

road1will
08-22-2002, 12:58 PM
cruiserhead-

would gladly check one out for you.

and by any chance, is this the place?

http://www.enginecom.com/cd.htm

dieselcruiserhead
08-22-2002, 01:54 PM
Yup!

Check 'em out if you don't mind - I guess the trucks are all in a lot down the street and he gets them from him. I know how they ship they cut out the front section of the frame and send them that way. They are all mid-late 80s to early 90s models, with the Bosch VE rotary pump. Output is 107 hp and about 300 ft/lbs, but easily tweakable but you can't get the astounding figures a later Bosch P1700 inline pump can put out (over 700 ft/lbs!).

I'm looking for one with any sort of manual tranny versus an auto, I hear they come with SM465s or Getrag 4 speeds.

Good luck and thanks!

Andre
ashoumat@zoo.uvm.edu

road1will
08-22-2002, 04:08 PM
cool, but the website says that they are $3000, not $1500 :(

im out at that price, but if you are still interested i might be able to get down there.

dieselcruiserhead
08-23-2002, 10:15 AM
Adam, I emailed you back channel - Sorry bout that but I may have found some other sources...!

Andre

Berg
08-23-2002, 04:55 PM
Andre' ......It's sharing time..Please share the sources:rasta:

I'd tell ya about the Yellow breadvan but you won't answer my e-mails:flipoff2:



Bennett.....hell I broke it.

dieselcruiserhead
08-28-2002, 03:46 PM
Sorry Bennett I have been answering your emails but your address isn't working....

I'll be in touch....

Andre