Just got off the phone with Nolen, went over backwards this time, wound up on his top, like a turtle.
He is in need of a hood and bib assembly, thinks he may have fawked the new $ radiator. He's still on his way home from wheelin'.....pix to come..........
:(
Butch

can you say o shit . we can make fun of him not being able to handle all that power. i hope it all turns out alright. mike

He and his passenger are fine, I should have mentioned that.....but you guys know if someone was hurt I would have mentioned that first.....
Butch

Pics of it upside down to come.....

Check out the winch bumper.....be hit freaking HARD:eek: :eek: :eek:

damn dude you knocked the fawk out of it

Another angle....

I got an AWESOME set of tools...I can fix it :D

man, that sucks...

Sorry to see it, but i know you will get it straightened out. It's only money, right?

yea we will have to see about geting a hoop up around the front of that thig. it would have saved some serious bucks. mike

WOW, I'm sorry to see that! I faired better, no body damage, just a broken front spring. I'll throw a pic up on the other thread.

Nolen, lay off the wheelstands!

JESUS, TWEAK THE FRAME AT ALL? THAT MUST HAVE BEEN A BURLY ENDO TO MESS THE FRONT UP THAT BAD IF YOU WENT OVER BACKWARDS... WERE YOU GETTIN' IT?

You might want to consider bolting a block of wood behind the gas pedal :D
BTW, how did you get your nick name?:D

remeber that cruiser from katemcy
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1851753693

Joseph A.

i think i remember u sayn u wouldnt buggy up that ride, unless u smashed the body up real bad in another post, hmmm maybe noled just wanted a buggy crusier:D
thats my best theory hehe
where did that happen at nolen...details?

nolen i know you were out at tim's place in nacona but what hill was it?

We were in Nocona, Texas at a private wheeling Ranch....

Wicked place, check out my Cruiser Website-McGill's Ranch (http://www.webphotos.com/list_albums_user.asp?mi=3&smi=2&u=1000023435) and see the pictures.

We had some AWESOME rigs out there....a "Willy's" with a 454 and Rockwells and a Cruiser on 44's. Lots of other Jeeps and stuff.

Anyway, Kate was doing good....I was shaking it down and learning how to drive the automatic.

We were on a tough little climb, no more that 20 yards and about 30*, but the rock at this place crumbles under foot very easily...

We had tried 3 lines in a slow crawl and it looked like I had knocked the hard stuff down. I eased up to it and I hit it about 1/2 throttle (that's getting it with this LT-1 :)) and the next thing I know we are going over backwards.

Up until now I had NEVER had the front end come up on Kate.....I think there are some things I will miss for sure about that heavy ass 2F!

Anyway, I don't have time to make her pretty before Poteau so I am going to bang her out with a hammer and line everything up as best I can and wheel the piss out of it!

Giddy up!

Some ask why this happens to me so much, well, my answer is that I take Kate in bad places where bad things can happen.

Thanks to Rusty B for a bad ass cage :beer:, not a ding/dent/bend on it and it took the brunt of the impact......

Visit my site and check out the shots!

I shall return!:flipoff2:

Fawk Me!!!!!!!!! Nice job!!!!!!!:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:


Now to make her pretty again........

Glad to hear you and your passenger made it out OK.......

-Chris

dammit nolan, I am gonna have to hurry up with my conversion so you don't run away with the "roll title"

Glad to here that damage was mostly cosmetic. And that you and you co pilot got out ok. :D

hey that advertisind on ur hood should at least get ya new fenders:flipoff2:

Grog you are welcome to the bib I have.......I guess we should have made you some wheely bars. I have had the front tires on Yeller off, climbing several times, but I have always had a spotter wave me off before it goes too high, you know the top of 3 stage, the wall? I have a video somewhere of me crawling it, and the LF lifted, closely followed by the RF, at which time Scot Knight waved me off. SO'd 350 FJ40's are a bit light in the front compared to the 2f.............
We'll get you back rollin'.....(oops bad choice of wording), going soon.
Butch

Go ahead and paint that thing green, it thinks it's a turtle.:flipoff2: I told you so...:D

Originally posted by Sloan
Go ahead and paint that thing green, it thinks it's a turtle.:flipoff2: I told you so...:D

Bitch.

Originally posted by wngrog

Giddy up!

Some ask why this happens to me so much, well, my answer is that I take Kate in bad places where bad things can happen.



"It's a getting it awwwwwnnnn thing, you wouldn't understand"!

Other than shoot metal, everything looks OK on the engine.

I need a new set of plug wires, plugs, a coil, and a top radiator hose.....

Off to Pep Boys......

Nolen, I have a decent front bib you are welcome to. No basel or buckets though. Glad to hear no injuries. Nice plug for rustyb - he's a good guy. Let me know. -D

What was that about not wanting to get a square bezel and apron because you didn't want to replace it?:D

How'd you cook the plug wires and coil? Sheet metal cut a wire?

Other than pilot error, how is it running with the new motor?

Thanks for the offer on the bib.....JasonH is giving me one....I had a fender and apron that I traded High5 for and Skeetshooter is giving me a Hood.....

Pirate guys are freaking AWESOME!!!!!!:beer:

As for the coil and stuff, yeah, the radiator went back into it and broke it where the dist wire goes in.....I had to buy a set of $70 wires just to replace 2 of them :mad:

Also, Gunracer recommended I pull the plugs before I turn it over and it is a good thing...lot's of oil in the cylinders.

As for how it is running......I like the LT-1, I am just going to have to learn how to drive all over again with the light front and the automatic.

Check out the pictures in my album.Wheeling (http://www.webphotos.com/list_photos.asp?mi=3&smi=1&a=86391)

Originally posted by wngrog
I am just going to have to learn how to drive all over again with the light front and the automatic.
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Did you end up putting the bezel on upside down yet?? If so, may it was just trying to get right side up!! :D

Glad you're okay! Any parts you still need? I may have some aprons if you need some!!

Hey Sean, since Nolen had to have been airborne, should we contact the FAA about investigating this crash?
BTW in the pix I saw the bezel was on correct, course it may have corrected itself.......
Butch

Originally posted by texican
Hey Sean, since Nolen had to have been airborne, should we contact the FAA about investigating this crash?
BTW in the pix I saw the bezel was on correct, course it may have corrected itself.......
Butch

I'm a qualified Accident Investigator, I'll do it!! :D

Nolen, I found these on eBay and thought you might could use them! Hurry though, there is less than a couple hours left!!:D

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Originally posted by MD11Fr8Dog


I'm a qualified Accident Investigator, I'll do it!! :D

Nolen, I found these on eBay and thought you might could use them! Hurry though, there is less than a couple hours left!!:D

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1850617474

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1850624439

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1850625685

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1850625978

Look at the seller's name on that stuff :flipoff2: :rolleyes:

Holy cow man,
You need another case of beer for the paint man now huh :D

wow.

And Butch you gonna make him a nice phallic symbol, I mean stinger for the front??? ;)

Rusty is the man. Very good work on the cage...

No pictures of Kate on her back?
Glad you and the passenger are ok, and that you didn't do that in Katemcy, I might have liked it and gone done the same in mine...can't wait to bring the cruiser home with its first big ass dint...
Glad your LT1 didn't get hit...I don't know, maybe then I would have been able to sell you my 1F and then I can get a v-8:flipoff2:

Joseph A.

Here is a shot of the radiator

Pulling into the garage.....

So far I have spent $330....$100 was for a new Optima...smashed the old one. ...You think they will warranty it :D

The passenger side fared pretty well....glad because that is where the computer and P/S res are located.....

Just out of curiousity.......does Julie ever have anything to say over your destroying the truck?
Butch

:eek:
ive been fearing this, and getting some front wheels up a lot.....
it must be the worst feeling, going.......going....gone!!

i hope it never happens to me...maybe i should get a 118" wheelbase going...????

good to see you are ok....pity about the cruiser.....ouch
it was looking so great too.......all shiny and new, like mine, ages ago, but heaps bigger than mine was

dont tube it!!!! i liked it as a red cruiser....... or dont tube it just yet........ (you probly wont seeing as your asking for panels...)

yeah, hook up this 45 cab deal, ill even put some fibreglass half windscreen frames in there! (id fill it up) and other panels you want?? ;) :D

pity about the rad.....is it usable?
gunna tube the front? and keep the panels? cool....ill copy your idea....do you think one of those big bars on the front would have helped? (like doing no damage to the bonnet, just damaging one side?) cause i might put one on!

Thats what I was wondering to Butch...

Originally posted by texican
Just out of curiousity.......does Julie ever have anything to say over your destroying the truck?
Butch

She just laughed at me........

where did you find her? and how about doing some cloning, should make you a fortune and that's meant as a huge compliment for a new mom !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by wngrog
$100 was for a new Optima...smashed the old one. ...You think they will warranty it :D

Will you be selling an Optima blem on eBay??:D :flipoff2:

Originally posted by MD11Fr8Dog


Will you be selling an Optima blem on eBay??:D :flipoff2:

I got a red top att Costco for $99.

I am going to try to warranty the Yellow Top...

:( SNAP, CRACKLE, POP

I hope you got to wheel all day before you destroyed it. So side rolls are for whimps:D ENDO IS THE WAY TO GO!!

Here is the only shot I could find on the top

Leave it to Nolen to roll backwards in a grassy field... ;-)

Originally posted by woody
Leave it to Nolen to roll backwards in a grassy field... ;-)

You can barely see the rocks to the right :flipoff2:

Originally posted by wngrog


You can barely see the rocks to the right :flipoff2:

yeah look at those "huge" rocks ;)

Don't you just hate pics....they never quite capture it all. :D

Nolen said:
Anyway, I don't have time to make her pretty before Poteau so I am going to bang her out with a hammer and line everything up as best I can and wheel the piss out of it!

That's my boy talking :eek: :flipoff2:

Hey Nolen, I've got a bib. You're welcome to it. It's down here in Waco, bezels and all.

rubber duck,
77 'in progress"

Originally posted by rubber duck
Hey Nolen, I've got a bib. You're welcome to it. It's down here in Waco, bezels and all.

rubber duck,
77 'in progress"

I have a bib....do you have a good hood?

hey i finally got back online to find that nolen rolled....AGAIN!! hehe hope it all turns out good for ya.

the only disappointment is the $$$ radiatior that got fawked.

oh, and i second the opinion to paint her green! :flipoff2:

Originally posted by wngrog
Up until now I had NEVER had the front end come up on Kate.....I think there are some things I will miss for sure about that heavy ass 2F!

I agree, my cruiser was a climbing machine back in the day when I had the F engine, and the stiff SUA springs. I keep thinking, the difference in weight can't have that much affect, and that my memory of the performance at that time is just cloudy. Then I hear things like this, and realize I'm not imagining this effect...It does make you miss the extra dead weight(pun intended)up front

...Of course, I think I would fill the front tubing with lead before I go back to an F engine and manual trans:D
Good luck gettin her back in shape.

Originally posted by DM


...Of course, I think I would fill the front tubing with lead before I go back to an F engine and manual trans:D
Good luck gettin her back in shape.

:laughing: FUNNY! My thoughts exactly!

Nolen, you can get a local welder to make you a front bumper out of a section of railroad track and then throw on some tractor weights to help hold down the front; then again, the wooden block behind the go pedal is easier.
Be sure to look over the cage welds pretty closely for any cracks before you hit the trails again. It looks like the rig took a pretty hard hit. Were you sore the next day?

Is it possible that Nolan is mixing all of those drugs he sells into a big milk-drug shake before he hits the trail? I have never seen anyone have this much trouble on the trail...Or maybe he's putting the milk-drug shake in Kate's gas tank! YIKES...guess every run with Nolan is an adventure...Texican...can you confirm?
LOL

Maybe the viagra has an effect on his right foot.:flipoff2:

Originally posted by rustyb
Maybe the viagra has an effect on his right foot.:flipoff2:
OUCH! THATS A BURN BABY!! :D

Originally posted by BigDave
Is it possible that Nolan is mixing all of those drugs he sells into a big milk-drug shake before he hits the trail? I have never seen anyone have this much trouble on the trail...Or maybe he's putting the milk-drug shake in Kate's gas tank! YIKES...guess every run with Nolan is an adventure...Texican...can you confirm?
LOL
:rolleyes:
Maybe he is hitting trails that most people avoid cause thier truck isn't set up for it. When you run near the edge, you gonna fall every now and then. It's called "gettin it". :D

Originally posted by rustycruiser

:rolleyes:
Maybe he is hitting trails that most people avoid cause thier truck isn't set up for it. When you run near the edge, you gonna fall every now and then. It's called "gettin it". :D

Nail on the head. And I can confirm this. (Passenger in Nolen roll #1). :D

Get it!

Originally posted by rustycruiser

It's called "gettin it". :D

I know guys including my 16 and 18 year old nephews that "GET IT" all of the time and they don't roll on every trip! My vote is the Viagra is messing with his equalibrium...LOL! :flipoff2:

i think it is the viagra, i was right in front of him when he flopped it on rock creek and i am sure it was all caused by a woodie. and the earth rejecting those super swampers.

I think he needs a pilots license:D and a hood in hardox

Just curious Nolen, How long of a wheelbase do you have now on the fj?

Hey Nolan, I went through several front clips before I finally built a front bib hoop, and since I did I havn't turtled it! Only side flops.

Jeff

Is yours a phallic symbol like Maces?
Butch:flipoff2:

Come awn, You know you want one


:flipoff2:

Why would I want a "symbol" you forget I'm from Texas......got a real one:flipoff2: :flipoff2:
Butch

Originally posted by Tankota
Just curious Nolen, How long of a wheelbase do you have now on the fj?

100"

Guys, this was not a wheelbase issue...it was a PILOT issue.

I tripled my horsepower and added an auto tranny while lightening up the front of my Cruiser by 250#.

:rolleyes:

It's called learning how to drive all over again...try it some time:flipoff2:

Originally posted by wngrog


It's called learning how to drive all over again...try it some time:flipoff2:

I can't resist, maybe we old farts should take lessons from the 16 & 18 year olds that never roll their shit :flipoff2: My wife is an expert on this subject too!

I need more chrome!

Originally posted by SpaceGhost


I can't resist, maybe we old farts should take lessons from the 16 & 18 year olds that never roll their shit :flipoff2: My wife is an expert on this subject too!

I need more chrome!

Bottom line...Nolan does it again and again and again and again and again and again:flipoff2: what was wrong with his Cruiser when it had all of that weight in front before the engine swap...guess he hadn't learned how to drive it yet! LOL!!! Still think it was the Viagra...Space Ghost...sounds like you have a cool wife...LOL!!!:D

I need to back up a sec. I didn't mean to be nasty, read this again this morning, sorry if I was.

I have a shitload of friends that have never broken a birf, never flopped, rolled or pretzeled a driveshaft. To hear them talk they are the shit, when the truth is they don't fawkin wheel! Plain and simple, if you wheel hard you will break shit (not your junk in disrepair), snap winch cables, and roll/flop your rig. Those that are NOT at the leading edge of the game often come to the wrong conclusion about what's really happening.

That doesn't mean that we don't make regretable driving/judgement errors that result in some of the flops. I know I have, and will again.

To suggest someone less than half my age can go out (and in this thread, wheel to the extremes) and not roll, struck a nerve. It's all good!

Oh and my wife "is" cool, but she has never been wheeling! :)

And as Mike said when we talked the other day....we gotta get the wives out to roll our junk now!

My wife is ALWAYS in the truck when we wheel...the Pink trail in Attica is fairly difficult, if you take all the tougher lines. She "whines" when we hit the Orange "mid-level" trail to "warm up" for the weekend. Not tough enuf for her. And, the tougher the section, the more likely she's IN the rig and not taking photos. My last flop was comical...she's in the truck, and laughing as we went over, then talking smack as we sit in the seats. She was happy we finally landed on my side and not on hers!

Given the choice, she's prefer Mission Impossible every time we go...too bad that's "no longer" accessible.

This past weekend was the first time I went wheeling without my wife. It was strange.

I think she said it best when she said "I'm getting out, so I can get better pictures when you roll."

Originally posted by texican
Why would I want a "symbol" you forget I'm from Texas......got a real one:flipoff2: :flipoff2:
Butch


You just have to remember that I live in Vegas. You think just because showgirls are prety they should wear sweaters??? :flipoff2:

You wheel hard, You roll.

Although, Nolen I thought you normally rolled on the easy stuff

Henry Brimmer:
"Sweet! he made it up rocker!!!" (turning around) "BAM!!!"
(looking back) oops......


:flipoff2:

Man do I love to stir it up...LOL...SpaceGhost...I knew you were not being nasty...and as to the 16 and 18 year old comment...my 2 nephews do Little Sluice, Fordyce and the Hammers on a regular basis and they do pretty good...their rigs are very hard core though...I'm still somewhat of a rookie, and I'm sure when I get my rig setup like you and Nolan and start doing the hard core stuff, I will crash and burn occasionally too...HONK!:D

Originally posted by Jason M
Although, Nolen I thought you normally rolled on the easy stuff

Henry Brimmer:
"Sweet! he made it up rocker!!!" (turning around) "BAM!!!"
(looking back) oops......
:flipoff2:

That's COLD....

Originally posted by wngrog
I got an AWESOME set of tools...I can fix it :D First he's going to shit, then he's going to kill us!

Originally posted by cruiserman
First he's going to shit, then he's going to kill us!

What's he going to do dude, Shit or Kill us?

Seriously,

I now have all the parts in place. I have to trim the driver's side fender and sandblast the hood.

I will look like a gypsy at Poteau with Black, White and Primer painted body parts....but I will be rolling again.

Wait, was that a good choice of words?:flipoff2:

The best part about when Nolen rolls is the fact that he doesnt whine about it, and though I have never been there when he has rolled, I would be willing to bet that he has a shit eatin grin and a cigar stuck in his mouth when the dust clears. :D

42s make it top heavy

send them down under

ill make it work;)

Originally posted by rustyb
I would be willing to bet that he has a shit eatin grin and a cigar stuck in his mouth when the dust clears. :D

Yeah, I trashed my last cigar this time.....:(

Originally posted by wngrog


Yeah, I trashed my last cigar this time.....:(

Now that sucks!!!

POOR NOLEN!.....LOL!

I feel for you man....that thing went over hard....glad everyone was OK....well, except Kate.....it's good to see that the tradition of Rollin Nolen has carried over to Pirates ;-)

Something came to mind as Tim and I were headed back at the end of the day....I've wheeled with you 3 times, and you've rolled on two of those occasions.....

In all fairness, it was a lot of bad luck....after you hit the gas, the front end shot up and the rocks kicked you backwards a couple of feet....when you landed, that 60 degree angle, coupled with an auto tranny and your left rear wedged between those rocks....well, it sent you right over, landing like a ton of bricks...

On the way home, I asked Tim why you didn't dump the clutch...I don't think he found it as funny as I did ;-)

hey i have only wheeled with him once and he went over.

Perm....Mike......

Bite me :flipoff2:

Originally posted by gunracer1
hey i have only wheeled with him once and he went over.

Bwahahahahaha

Me too. Hmm Should we start a club???

:flipoff2:

I was spotting him on Rocker Knocker in Moab, it was all my fault.......scared the crap out of me, cause the obstacle was over, I really think the rocks were pissed, grabbed the LR tire and slammed Kate.
Butch

Originally posted by texican
I was spotting him on Rocker Knocker in Moab, it was all my fault.......
Butch

Can I quote you on that? He, He.....just did:flipoff2: