Does anybody use one to take up the slack on an AR?

Rich

nope. nothing I own is "that" loose

Waste of $/solution looking for a problem. JMHO

OK any opinions on taking the slop out?
I mean serious slop to the point of sepperation during fire.
The pin doesnt look wollered out but once its warm the rear pin is loose.
sugestions?

Rich

Personally, I love them. I do not own an AR that does not have one in it.
I also used one in the loose POS colt M16 that I used for rifle training in basic.. the FNs seemed even worse.

http://www.jprifles.com/buy.php?item=JPTP-1


JP split pins. Little more than an Accuwedge, but will never wear out and they work the best!

2 AR's and both have JP tension pins. Only thing I don't like is the extra dickin' around to get the gun broke down. Other than that, they are great.

o ring FTW.

http://home.comcast.net/~jesse99/AR_Wiggle.html

Personally, I love them. I do not own an AR that does not have one in it.
I also used one in the loose POS colt M16 that I used for rifle training in basic.. the FNs seemed even worse.

So you carried an accu-wedge to boot camp with you? What service were you in that had "rifle training"?

So you carried an accu-wedge to boot camp with you? What service were you in that had "rifle training"?

last i checked every service has M16 rifle training...did you serve???

nope. nothing I own is "that" loose

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Waste of $/solution looking for a problem. JMHO


Exactly. If you want a better solution, you should look around either arfcom or snipers hide. Someone glass bedded their upper receiver :laughing:

last i checked every service has M16 rifle training...did you serve???

Yes I served and the Army did not give me "rifle training" nor did they permit me to take a fucking accu-wedge to install on their rifle. Do you understand what I was getting at now?

So you carried an accu-wedge to boot camp with you?

Yup. And I had a buddy send 10 more when I got there to pass out. One of the guys made a perfect score at qualification and I can't help but think that the wedge helped out. We were issued brand new rifles, some colts and some fn's but they were all equally flop-around loose. The wedges were all removed and stored in the stock for inspections and before leaving the ranges. I also had new colt mags sent but they did not arrive in time to use in qualification. We had a terrible time with jams due to old and worn out mags.

nor did they permit me to take a fucking accu-wedge to install on their rifle

"Install" is an overstatement don't you think? It takes about a half second to drop in. I dried mine off and took a black sharpie to it so it was less noticeable.
I had a cell phone too.

I'm with you PD, if I had even attempted to place a non authorized device in my rifle during "training" I think I would have found it shoved up my ass.

Must be this new "kinder gentler" service. :shaking:

I just got home from boot the end of November and im pretty sure i would have not even been able to get an accu-wedge even if some on sent it to me. We had to open all our mail in front of the Drill Instructors, and if i did some how get it through mail call they would have fawked me up for having unauthorized parts in my weapon. To top it all off i had a nasty sloppy rifle and shot expert without problems there are better solutions to that problem.

Holy shit I feel like I just stumbled into a Acuwedgie infomercial complete with expert testimonials.

My opinion... Completely unnecessary. The wedge... not my opinion :blackflipoff2:

The upper to lower fit doesn't have jack squat to do with accuracy since the entire firing operation takes place in the upper reciever which coincidently also holds the sights in alignment with the barrel.

As for bringing an accuwedge or cellphone to boot, if that in fact is happening, then its time to hit the big silver lever because our system is in the shitter and ready to go. They started pussifying boot and it's a downward spiral from there. Gawdamn touchy feely bullshit.

"My name's Gunnery Sergeant Highway and I've drunk more beer and banged more quiff and pissed more blood and stomped more ass that all of you numbnuts put together."

where Clint Eastwood when you need him?

I'm with you PD, if I had even attempted to place a non authorized device in my rifle during "training" I think I would have found it shoved up my ass.

Must be this new "kinder gentler" service. :shaking:

Must have been Chair Force, or maybe he was Force Recon?

"Install" is an overstatement don't you think? It takes about a half second to drop in. I dried mine off and took a black sharpie to it so it was less noticeable.
I had a cell phone too.

Yeah, my cell phone broke at the Starbucks in reception and I couldn't find a Sprint retailer anywhere in the training area of Fort Leonardwood to save my ass, so I had to go the whole time without one. :(

We managed to qualify on old, worn the fuck out by every PVT who went through before us, M-16's without any trouble, so WTF was your problem? I'm surprised you didn't have ACOGs sent in so you could run CQB drills in the barracks.

Must have been Chair Force, or maybe he was Force Recon?



Yeah, my cell phone broke at the Starbucks in reception and I couldn't find a Sprint retailer anywhere in the training area of Fort Leonardwood to save my ass, so I had to go the whole time without one. :(

We managed to qualify on old, worn the fuck out by every PVT who went through before us, M-16's without any trouble, so WTF was your problem? I'm surprised you didn't have ACOGs sent in so you could run CQB drills in the barracks.
Plain old infantry. Benning. We didn't have a starbucks?:(
I didn't have a problem. My brother gave me a list of things that he wished he had had in basic and I took that stuff with me. Of course I was 28 when I went in and knew full well what to sweat and what not to... I was wanting to score expert but didn't-- even with the "cheat" wedge. So that should make you happy.

No one's BRM score has ever made me happy but my own.

No one's BRM score has ever made me happy but my own.
I had a bet going with a buddy, his lower score made me happy. :D

I ended up shooting 50 out of 40 with bonus points for a head shot and a knife kill on the 50 meter target. :flipoff2::flipoff2:

The upper to lower fit doesn't have jack squat to do with accuracy since the entire firing operation takes place in the upper reciever which coincidently also holds the sights in alignment with the barrel.


that must by why it is unnecessary to bed a bolt action rifle to it's stock. after all, the entire firing operation takes place in the receiver which coincidentally also holds the sights in alignment with the barrel.:flipoff2:

I had a bet going with a buddy, his lower score made me happy. :D

I ended up shooting 50 out of 40 with bonus points for a head shot and a knife kill on the 50 meter target. :flipoff2::flipoff2:

need video of that!

need video of that!

I would have got video but they didn't allow us to have cellphones. :flipoff2:

Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure cellphones were only used for 1 thing when I went to basic... making phone calls.

http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/17000/40--17425.jpg

that must by why it is unnecessary to bed a bolt action rifle to it's stock. after all, the entire firing operation takes place in the receiver which coincidentally also holds the sights in alignment with the barrel.:flipoff2:

Lemme know when you freefloat the barrel of that bolt action, then we'll talk.:flipoff2:

Lemme know when you freefloat the barrel of that bolt action, then we'll talk.:flipoff2:

lemme know when you free float the receiver and it will be a better comparison

Lemme know when you freefloat the barrel of that bolt action, then we'll talk.:flipoff2:

oh, i get it now. if you have a free float hand guard on an ar, then the upper/lower fit starts affecting accuracy. gotcha.


or maybe shot to shot consistency has a little something to do with accuracy whether it is a bolt action fit in a stock or the upper to lower receiver fit on an ar. now if we are talking about shooting with the standard irons on an ar, i don't think there would be any noticeable difference. i think if you asked people competing in accuracy matches with ar type rifles, and told them that the upper to lower fit doesn't have jack squat to do with accuracy, they'd disagree with you.

i think if you asked people competing in accuracy matches with ar type rifles, and told them that the upper to lower fit doesn't have jack squat to do with accuracy, they'd disagree with you.

I'd agree, applying opposing forces to take up the slack and stop the flopping-- basically applying side forces to hold the sights steady-- it can't be good for accuracy-- particularly iron sights out to 300 meters.

Particularly prone in crushed gravel.

I don't know from accuracy as the rifles shoot better than I do. I do like the fact that some of the rattly feeling to the rifle is removed and the weapon overall feels much more solid.

Apart from that a accuwedge pushes them apart which to me seems the opposite of what you want, while a tension pin pulls them together.

To each their own. I'll keep my JP tension pins.

Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure cellphones were only used for 1 thing when I went to basic... making phone calls.
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Shit, I feel old now, when I went to basic there were no cell phones - period.

I just got home from boot the end of November and im pretty sure i would have not even been able to get an accu-wedge even if some on sent it to me. We had to open all our mail in front of the Drill Instructors, and if i did some how get it through mail call they would have fawked me up for having unauthorized parts in my weapon. To top it all off i had a nasty sloppy rifle and shot expert without problems there are better solutions to that problem.

where were you for basic? my little brother graduated from ft. knox at the end of november. his cell phone stayed locked up the whole time he was there, and since they wouldn't even let him have the 4 wheel & offroad mag I mailed him, I'm sure they wouldn't have let him have gun parts.

where were you for basic? my little brother graduated from ft. knox at the end of november. his cell phone stayed locked up the whole time he was there, and since they wouldn't even let him have the 4 wheel & offroad mag I mailed him, I'm sure they wouldn't have let him have gun parts.

I went to boot in San Diego i was told not to even tak a cell phone with me and it was good advice cuz everyone that had their cell phones got them taken and taged and they got them back with all their shit right before graduation. We didnt get anything cool one kid in the platoon got I.T.ed till his heart about pooped cuz his friends thought they were funny and sent him a Playboy

I'm with you PD, if I had even attempted to place a non authorized device in my rifle during "training" I think I would have found it shoved up my ass.

Must be this new "kinder gentler" service. :shaking:


I can assure that at least five years ago, basic at parris island was nothing at all like this. Not only would you have had a tough time smuggling an accuwedge in (and why? to cheat your fellow Marine?) but the 30 year old rifles we qual'd with didn't need them anyway.

that must by why it is unnecessary to bed a bolt action rifle to it's stock. after all, the entire firing operation takes place in the receiver which coincidentally also holds the sights in alignment with the barrel.:flipoff2:

Are you really comparing an AR upper to a bolt action rifle/stock??

Are you really comparing an AR upper to a bolt action rifle/stock??


absolutely.

absolutely.

Well how do you figure upper/lower fitment compares to a bedded stock? There is no comparison. The "stock", reciever and barrel are all one piece on an AR. The lower, pistol grip and buttstock are all just secondary.

Well how do you figure upper/lower fitment compares to a bedded stock? There is no comparison. The "stock", reciever and barrel are all one piece on an AR. The lower, pistol grip and buttstock are all just secondary.



the upper receiver and barrel are effectively one piece on the ar and a bolt action rifle. the lower receiver, pistol grip and butt stock act the same as a stock on a bolt action. if there is movement between the two, the rifle will not recoil exactly the same way each time it is fired causing inconsistencies. inconsistencies are not good for accuracy.