Well the time has finaly come to start my next/budget/keeper build. Im a long time toyota guy that has had an itch for a tin top zuk since my 4runner was "done". The runner was sold before my son (now 15 mths) was born and the bank account has not allowed me to do anything but research and gather a part or two here and there since.

What I have learned in that time frame is reasearch is priceless, brand loyalist are missing the big picture, patiance pays off, and without freinds I couldnt do this. Im shooting for a no budget build and meeting it very well at this point. So ill get to the specs.......

Goals;

87' TT zuk
pane'd 22r/2wd trans/6.5 zuk case
Hydro assit 2wd toy steering
2wd toy brake booster/FJ80 MC
FJ80 front axle/welded 4.10 LP 3rd/ Slee offroad mocked steering/shaved *edit* custom 80/9.5 front
IFS rear axle welded/ 4.10/2" spacers/Tacoma front disc brakes/shaved *edit* FF/disc/9.5" FJ80 rear
3 link fr/qa1 coils/bbcs shocks
3 or 4 link rear/qa1's/bbcs shocks
Cut 38x12.50 SX's/32 bolt 15x8 beadlocks *edit* wheels wouldnt fit over brakes on new axles. Prol do recenterd H1's w/ 37-38's
18-20" belly height
103-107" W/B

(I have a complete 86 2wd PU in my yard given to me by a friend:smokin:)


Didnt get pics from the begining but the zuk was a basket case. I have about 3-4 hrs in it and about 10-12 in my wheels/tires/front housing. Time is no object on this one. I have 3 kids from ages 1-6, I work full time and my wife is a full time student. It will get done when it gets done, ill work on it when I can and I wont cut corners on my work to get things done.


The start.............

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/Miscellaneous001.jpg?t=1230605564

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/Miscellaneous002.jpg?t=1230605607

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/Miscellaneous003.jpg?t=1230605627

I call this one "leftover" because almost everything on it will be someone else's leftovers :flipoff2::flipoff2:

That looks great, even with the budget aside. It looks like patience goes a long way with these things. It's nice to see that; as I am a college student and sometimes get discouraged with my lack of progress on my samurai. They get "done" eventually I suppose.

Patience and research is the most important part of a budget! True wisdom. My project is still a pile of parts, but I have figured out exactly what parts I need, what I want to do, how I want it done, and have planned out what order it all needs to be done in.
It looks like you know exactly what you want to do, and how to go about it. I'll be keeping an eye on this thread.
-Clancy

Lets see some pics of these steering arms.

:smokin:

fj80 up front nice! how about the rear, it is a full floater, if you can get it i would. nice build for sure, most of the front of my build is all back yard specials. FREE parts that have been pulled off of a jeep or other toy at some time. it all works well and has only cost me my time and wire or just a few buck for bolts or something of the like.

Thanks guys. The patiance/research has been hard for me to do but I wouldnt have learned what I have if I wasnt forced to wait so long. There are still things I have put alot of r&d time in that I want to do but budget holds me back. Like going mech/assist steering instead of full hydro, 3 link instead of 4, coils/shocks instead of airshocks, and keeping the dash instead of doing a 1 off stainless with aftermarket gauges. Some if these things are still possible but highly unlikely. I will be ussing a 86-95 IFS rear w/ taco front brakes, and 2" spacers. There cheap, strong, I can carry one spare fr/rr and with spacers ill be 1" narrower than the front for better tracking

I put a couple hours in it today on demo, stripping it down to nothing to start over new. The more time I put into it the more its looking like a buggy build labor wise. I hope to have a high dollar buggy equivilant rig for pennys on the dollar.....time will tell.

Here's the arms. I may end up modifiying/beefing them instead of the slee double sheer setup....just depends on how the cards fall. Big thanks to JimboJones for the RHD Oz arm :grinpimp:

Heres slees...
http://www.sleeoffroad.com/products/images/steering/histeer001.jpg

And a couple of the boy and I cause we make each other smile :D

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/gmgm.jpg http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/nxfgnfgh.jpg

the slee stuff is great but wow there high cost! build it your self and put that cash some place that you really need it!

I wouldnt be getting it from slee, its not even close to being in my budget. My buddy's father-in-law is a cnc machinist and the arms/knuckles/pics have been dropped off with him. Ill just have to see what he says on it before I know.

I am really struggling with the mech/assist. or full hydro steering deal. I want to run full hydro and think I can do it for less than 500.00 but I have everything I need to run mech/assist......Dammit!

on a budget build, I'd roll with assist, till you get done with the project. Reason is there seems to always be cost overruns. If you're still sporting extra dough at the end, full hydro is a simple weekend project when you have time. Sell the assist and enjoy trails either way.

Yeah the deeper I dig its obvious the fundage will be going elsewhere. The entire mech/ assist system from pump-ram should only put me out of pocket about 50-75.....theoreticly ;) So the cost (or lack there of) should over run the headache of fitting it all in. Honestly the assist will be fine performance wise, I just want full hydro for ease of installaton and I want to run 4-links FR/RR.

I spent a few more hours stripping it down today. Only plan to keep the whippers, heater, dash pad, steering colum/wheel. Evrything else is gone, seperated what I will/may keep out and trashed the rest. Prol 100lb of plastic/wires, brackets/bolts. Found more rust too, LOTS of repair work ahead. I really want to get the body off the frame to get all the caner out but I have to borrow a engine hoist to do so and im waiting on that.

I'll post some pics when there is something worth looking at.

-Josh

i love sloppy seconds

Alright I think it sucks to be in your shoes and having to figure out such a task with no budget. From our shoes its fun and awesome because its a challenge So do me a favor because my brain's already spinning trying to figure this out too. Go back up to your goals list at the top and list how many of those parts you currently have. Give us all a list of parts you have and the one you do not yet. As far as full assist and mech assist its a tossup there. Hoses and fittings add up fast either direction. Nuts, bolts, metal, fittings, etc will nickel and dime this build and sneak up on you. As far as a motor is concerned I'm going to say good choice on the 22r paned. We should be able to find one of those for a good price. Its a great motor just no EFI which the pane cures.
So just think about this for a second if you build in stages you don't suck the budget dry. But you don't want to redo anything twice that would cost significantly to change it right? If you don't get it up and running at some point and drive it a little you will lose inspiration and become sick of working on the thing. So to my point lets get engine and drivetrain in. You have the hardest part and that is a good front axle to work with. Usually you waste a lot of money on a shitty front just to pay to swap and rebuild another one later. Lets leave this thing on leaf springs and do the links and suspension very last. I would recommend coils and shocks if your on a budget. With airshocks your going to need access to shock oil and a nitrogen bottle for tuning. Man I think you'll be shocked at how quick links, inserts, some sort of heim, bracket will be. Metal is like gold in a build and its fawking expensive these days:eek:. Nice shit to have laying around is 2x4 rec and 2x6 steel since they work as crossmembers, brackets(cut out), etc. Flat stock will probably be in high demand for you as well 2" 3/16 will have a million uses. Tubing in any size will be great. Post up your list of so far please.

I have a complete (was running/driving) 86 2wd pickup. Another freebe from a buddy, Thanks Huiy :grinpimp:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1713.jpg

87 TT/zuk case
Most of my propane stuff
assist ram/lines
UHDP skid material
complete fj80 front (less HP 3rd)
2-4.10 3rds
3- 60% 38's/ 4-beadlocks complete
Plenty of mis steel for brackets
Buddy w/ mini machine shop (tube adapters, ect)
tacoma front brakes/fj80 master cyl.
optima yellow top (new)
Sheet metal for patch work
spare front housing


Im sure there is alot I have forgot to list. It has taken a while to gather all of it but im only bout 1k into all of it :grinpimp::grinpimp: I have alot of my own leftovers im using so that helps alot too.This is my 3rd all out build, with 2 DD/wheelers in between. So I know exactly what I want and where im willing to sacrifice for budget. I also have some killer freinds that help with all this stuff . I borrow alot of stuff as well as trade out work (unspoken rule) If I were to decide to go with airshocks I have a buddy with a nitro setup, and I have the tire groover borrowed for example.


I got alot doone today. The motor/trans is ready to pull out of the toy truck, the body is seperated from the frame, and the front axle/yj's are pulled from under the zuk. I have some mis stuff I can do till I get the cherry picker then I will start mocking the drivetrain up and patching rust.

I really like the build so far. You will be better off after putting all the thought and planning into the build. I wasted a lot of time and money on my first build with a hybrid rear and built Sammy front axle only to wheel it 3 times and start over.

I just finished my hydro assist steering and hopefully will get to try it Saturday at Golden Mountain. The only full hydro system that I have installed is on my garden tractor. The steering wheel center position changes constantly after making turns, hopefully it works better on off road rigs.

Thanks man, I took alot from your build....even have the pic of yours with all those questions I asked answered on the back in my "4x4 diary" as my wife calls it ;) My buddys went last weekend and said it was NASTY, nobody got up anything. Oh how I long to go in my own :(

I put all my steering stuff up for sale to see what happens. If it sells i'll go full hydro, if not ill run it. It will be a while before I have to decide 100% so well see.

Anybody got a 38x12.5 sx :) ???????????????

i like the build .it is somewhat similar to my zuk in progress mostly leftover parts:smokin:

Subscribed. I am following this one buddy.:smokin:

Subscribed. I am following this one buddy.:smokin:

Me too, can't wait..

Were you the person I talked to about grabbing the arm from over sea's? I'm still working on getting funds together for my FJ80 front end project, and am curious how you're going to connect the steering if you go mechanical as aposed to full hydro?

Dont get to excited fellas I hope to be done next year. Damn budget will deterine that, as well as Sarah's school schedule.

Were you the person I talked to about grabbing the arm from over sea's? I'm still working on getting funds together for my FJ80 front end project, and am curious how you're going to connect the steering if you go mechanical as aposed to full hydro?
Yep thats me :D I got it from jimbojones on Zukikrawlers. I bought another LHD arm from a buddy and traded it to jimbo for the RHD. Ended up being 75.00 out of pocket, jimbo was pretty stoked too. Weather I get the slee type arms (I hope, fingers crossed) or modify the stock ones ill just put a tab on tie rod to carry the drag link with hiems on all of it.

Like so...
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/toy1.jpg


Started the patch work today, Got the firewall "done". Cut out all the rust, patched it back and covered the mis. holes I wont be using like the stock clutch cable hole, ect. Even got carried away and almost covered the throttle cable hole :shaking: I did leave any bolt holes I may use (mounting points, grounds ect.) Its a lil frankenstein but it will be covered for the most part and im just not that anal anymore :flipoff2:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1714.jpg


Heres the pass. floorpan for an example of what im work'n with. The rear is worse, but for what I have in it and how hard it is to get a TT around here at all im fine with it. Overwelmed at times but ill make it :homer:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1715.jpg


Ill start on the rockers tomorow. It will be boat-sided in the end:grinpimp:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1716.jpg

If anyone is wondering someone tried to turn this into a rig before my buddy got it. Hence the comp cuts, mini truck axles, and yj's as well as the chopped off the rockers. Also please note the amount of time I say "buddy" thru this, My freinds help is priceless.

lookin good man

Thanks dude, lots of time/money before its done though.

Worked on more rust repair today.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1717.jpg

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Doesnt look like it but that took bout 4hrs today. The lower seam is welded 100% too :smokin: It is nice cuting most of it with tin snips though.

looks good man:) glad to see the yota getting used! ill be over there to get that battery soon

so uh... you get those aborted 4runner fetuses (feti maybe?) on there yet... :flipoff2:

Dang Josh, I knew you were hiding somewhere building something... I just didn't know what. I'm sure this thing will be bling like the rest of your builds.

looks good man:) glad to see the yota getting used! ill be over there to get that battery soon Yeah man, it will be. Hopefully everything but the body and axle, thanks again :smokin:

so uh... you get those aborted 4runner fetuses (feti maybe?) on there yet... :flipoff2: Dude I get so excited over little crap like that :laughing: The bushings were for 1.5x.120 and I have some of that and spare rubbers for them.

Dang Josh, I knew you were hiding somewhere building something... I just didn't know what. I'm sure this thing will be bling like the rest of your builds. Not hiding just reseaching :grinpimp: Sarah already said I need a "bling bling" sticker for the windshield......I cant find 'em though.

Still working on rust repair. Bout 1/4 done with it. Using what ever I can get for sheet metal, stainless and galvinized. Wont have to worry bout it rusting again though.

Doesnt look like much but it took me the better part of the weekend and i'm proud of it. I will weld some of it from the bottom once the body is off the frame. The bottom will be covered in undercoating and the inside of the tub will be some sort of DIY bedliner. All floor pan to body seems will be sealed with NP-1 adhesive also.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1724.jpg

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The rust repair work looks good. I used some free galvanized on mine too for the rear tubs. Welding that stuff can mess you up big time if breathe the fumes.

Thanks man. The trick to gag-a-nize is clean the galv. off the edges you plan to weld.

How did you like the hydro assist?

The hydro assist is a huge improvement on the rocks and easy to steer. My co-worker was fighting the wheel on his 85 4Runner on the same trail. He is going to add it to his rig now.

cool, I picked up my ram/lines last week. I knew with this one I wanted assist at the minimum, no more "turn driver"-"I AM!" or "I CANT!" I really wanted to run full hydro but the budget wouldnt allow it and all the stuff im using is supa cheep ;)

Sarah already said I need a "bling bling" sticker for the windshield......I cant find 'em though.

I think I had mine made. Check with timberwolf.

I'll check on it, I would like to sport the bling ya know :D

I pulled away from the rust repair for a bit to build some jackstands. I've been wanting a set of adjustables to fine tune things for a while now but im poor and hate to spend money. I really needed them now as I want to get the frame level both ways when I rebuild/extend it.

Finished building one tonight, less paint, and i'll do 3 more. Of coarse everything used on them is leftovers from work. :smokin:

Material list;

3/8" plate
3x.25 wall fence post
1 3/8 anchor bolts, nuts, plates
#5 rebar
3x3x.25 angle

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1728.jpg

There adjustable from 17ish" to 23ish". I also welded a one of the same size nuts to the bottom of the bolt, inside the toob, to prevent the threaded rod from wanting to tilt when extended. I figure these have to be rated at least the same as my cheapo 6 tons.

Nice. I just threw some together out of scrap for my Dad's build. They set the truck up nice at 26" to bottom of the frame. One day I would like to make some keepers. I really like the idea with the adjustable nut. Thats using the ol' noodle.

looks good bro keep at it and I am sure some free stuff will come your way :D

Nice. I just threw some together out of scrap for my Dad's build. They set the truck up nice at 26" to bottom of the frame. One day I would like to make some keepers. I really like the idea with the adjustable nut. Thats using the ol' noodle. Thanks man. I'm shooting for 18ish on mine :) Ive been needing them for a long while now so i'm pretty stoked bout 'em. It was all scrap too

looks good bro keep at it and I am sure some free stuff will come your way :D Thanks Buudy! I won this today :grinpimp: Im not sure what to do with it as of now but its fawken cool as hell!!


http://www.trentfabrication.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=31_64&products_id=319
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=410402&stc=1&d=1229970106 http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=410403&stc=1&d=1229970106

Sell it and finish your ride!!:D

I prolly will, hate to but I need the funds for other stuff.

yea man, thats awesome.. I never win anything, but I would sell it.

Thanks man. I'm shooting for 18ish on mine :) Ive been needing them for a long while now so i'm pretty stoked bout 'em. It was all scrap too


26" isn't the ride height. Just a good height to work on it.

yea man, thats awesome.. I never win anything, but I would sell it.Yeah I never expected it. Its like 1150.00 retail for the center and cover. I would like to trade it for airshocks.

26" isn't the ride height. Just a good height to work on it. Gothcha, it is looking good man.

Done yet??? :flipoff2:

looks good man. cant wait to see it done. you need to come out to morris mountain when you get it all done and test it out. ...that is if you done sell this one as soon as your done with it:flipoff2:

Done yet??? :flipoff2:Closer than you are :flipoff2:

looks good man. cant wait to see it done. you need to come out to morris mountain when you get it all done and test it out. ...that is if you done sell this one as soon as your done with it:flipoff2: I plan to wheel this one for a LONG time, hopefully unchanged from the time it rolls out. :grinpimp:

Update;

Trent Fab has been great to deal with and wouldnt think twice about buying a part I needed from them. I have a trade working for 4- W.E. airshocks on the center. Something I prol couldnt not have afforded if it wasnt a gift. I REALLY wanted to run airshocks too :D

Finished the jakstands ....

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1729.jpg

Put the driver side rocker panel in today, still picking away at the rust :barf:
My wife started a new job today, the schooling is finaly paying off. The good is the income, the bad is my time will be shot to hell. It couldnt have come at a better time though as I got cut back to 32hrs at work 1hr before she got the job. Maybe when I turn 30 itll be done...2.5 yrs

For those wondering (and cause pics are cool)
FJ80 right, Mini left :eek:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1730.jpg

Im looking into retrofitting a taco 8.4 center in the 80 housing too :grinpimp:

Tell her I said congratulations on the job score..Definitely tough these days, financially and all.

NICE! Congrats on her job... Killer jack stands...

Tell her I said congratulations on the job score..Definitely tough these days, financially and all.Will do man, its a bless'n for sure man!

NICE! Congrats on her job... Killer jack stands... Thanks man, I need to find the time to put them under it. :)

Congratulations on her job.

I am thinking about getting my wife a third job. (I am not including her housework and kid raising). I caught her sitting on the couch watching TV so I know she has some extra time.:D

Congratulations on her job.

I am thinking about getting my wife a third job. (I am not including her housework and kid raising). I caught her sitting on the couch watching TV so I know she has some extra time.:DThanks man, one day she'll be making 150k+ and I can stop begg'n for scrap. I'll get those bling ballistic joints then :grinpimp:

How are you liking you susp. setup? Im deffitly doing bushings at the frame and trying to decide on either hiems or flex joints at the axle. Ive about decided to do wishbone 3's front/rear and im not sure if a single 3/4x3/4 cromo w/high mis. and a 5/8 grd8 is enuff for the upper????? Thoughts? Its that or save for the ballistic 2.63 joints. bout a 200.00 differance in cost.

going to use these on the frame side... (4300-200)

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/Poly-Performance-Bushing-Kits-p-16605.html

And either these... (lefts on one end rights on the other)

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/34-rod-end-set-1-lh-1-rh-p-338.html

Or 2 weldable and one forged 2.63 (adjustable upper)

http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/Ballistic-Joints_c_12.html

OR... polys 4300-200 bushings (5/8's thru bolt) everywhere but the upper and use ballistics 2.63 forged joint on the upper. Im afraid the jam nut wouls always be loose this way though.

OR bushings all the way around????????????????????????????????

Im ranting on a budget now! :confused::confused:

When I was building my rig, the wife was doing great at selling real estate. That has come to a screeching halt with the economy. I always try to save money when possible, I built the last four of our daily drivers from wrecks.

I am happy with my suspension choice. I don't know enough about suspension design regarding strength of joints so I went with the large ones. When we wheel at Pickett Forrest we are a long way back in the woods if we break something. I also thought the Johnny or flex joint would last longer because it can be greased. I like the looks of the Ballistic forged flex joint but I don't know if they are worth $200 more over 3/4 cromos on a light weight rig. I torqued the crap out the 1 1/4" jam nuts and they haven't loosened yet.

In hindsight I probably would have gone with a nearly stock D60 and 14 bolt instead of built D44s. It probably would have been as cheap.

Thats a good idea on the DD's. I just had to trade my beloved 5lug taco (28mpg+, sports car with a bed ;) ) for a kid hauler. She has been out of work for 2 years now, my son was born and life/economy hit. We're really looking forward to moving ahead in life and paying some debt off. The zuk is in last place on scheduling.

I have to agree with you on going with the bigger joints for tht reason. I think its worth 200.00 to not break :) I'm also waiting to see if ruffstuff comes out with the 7/8x3/4 package like the 3/4 they have know. Supposedly this week and @ 50ish for 2 complete. That would be perfect for strenght and budget.

I ever get this thing done we'll have to ride sometime.

-Josh

Sounds good, Chattanooga is about the same distance from Golden Mountain in Sparta as Lafayette is.

I wouldnt be getting it from slee, its not even close to being in my budget. My buddy's father-in-law is a cnc machinist and the arms/knuckles/pics have been dropped off with him. Ill just have to see what he says on it before I know.

I am really struggling with the mech/assist. or full hydro steering deal. I want to run full hydro and think I can do it for less than 500.00 but I have everything I need to run mech/assist......Dammit!


I shot you a pm before I saw this thread. It basically says what I am planning to do for my front FJ80 axle. I will subscribe to this thread. Mines going under a coiled FJ40. Thought we could swap idears.

Here's the arms. I may end up modifiying/beefing them instead of the slee double sheer setup....just depends on how the cards fall. Big thanks to JimboJones for the RHD Oz arm :grinp

I just recieved my RHD steering arm from Specter Offroad. It was $63 bucks to my house. Those guys have been the best source for any Land Cruiser parts I have ever found. They said they had more. Now to move my tie rod up front. Hey JJ3 do you have a single ended 8" ram with heim ends laying around?

I just recieved my RHD steering arm from Specter Offroad. It was $63 bucks to my house. Those guys have been the best source for any Land Cruiser parts I have ever found. They said they had more. Now to move my tie rod up front. Hey JJ3 do you have a single ended 8" ram with heim ends laying around? Cool, I have a single ended ram that will work for assist if your interested let me know. I'll know more on the arms later...soon I hope :smokin:

Update;

Traded the TF givaway diff for a fj80 rear, fj62 rear (less shafts) and some cash that I used to pay for the zuk itself :) The 80 rear is full float/disc brake/9.5. I'll be using the 62 rear for a hybrid 809.5 front. FJ80 outers on the fj62 housing/center. Im going to set it up where I can use the stock 80 inners and I have a credit at poly performance im going to use for a cromo birf (spare) and IF I break one ill buy another. once my axles are done I should be good for many years to come. 1 ton toyota's baby!

The bad is my 15" rims wont fit over the brakes with out 1" or more spacers (another 150.00:( )and i'm already 63.5 wms (80" out-out) on a 55" body. I really dont want to go any wider than it is already, it would put the rotors inside the inner lip of the rim and I have alot of time in my beadlocks/tires. Not to metion I cant get enuff out of them to pay for a new set......again the quality of my problems has greatly increased :D

80 front and 62 rear beside each other
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1738.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1739.jpg

9.5" left, 8" right
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1740.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1741.jpg

And the BEAST 80 rear..
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1742.jpg

The 15" rim on the rear

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1743.jpg

Interesting axle build. Pm me a pic of your ram and I might buy it from you if it will work. Also, keep me posted on those arms.

I just sold my FJ80 rear with elect locker for $500. Since I went to an Atlas (which centered my rear output shaft) I started looking for a centered axle. Right now I have a spider 9, currie high pinion, and detroit (35spl). Hope the currie hp will hold up to 37" tires and a mild 350.

Right now I am researching my tie rod options for my front FJ80 axle.
My dilema:
Run draglink straight down to right steering arm (I will have to use heims in this case and my tie rod will be a little lower because it will have to reside under the steering arm) or......run the draglink down to the tie rod, like a TJ set up (looking at buying the Currie heavy duty draglink). I would probably use FJ80 tie rod ends and this would allow my tie rod to sit higher as well. What do ya think? Of course if I get some sort of upper arms, which eventually I will cough up the money, I will re-address.

I will keep an eye out for some in expensive 16-17 inch beadlocks in the 6 on 5.5 bolt pattern for ya.

Wow Josh. Looks like you will be needing some 17" wheels.

Im just going to run the drag link to the tie rod w/ weld on tabs and hiems, be fine fo me ;) I wanted the non e-locker cause the housing has to be cut apart if you break a shaft on the shift fork side. A cv rear would have cured your drivline angle too. Works out for me cause im running a zuk case.

16's will clear but I think I will just go with some oem toy alum rims in the 17" flavor. Maybe weld a bead protector ring on the outside edge and use np-1 on the tire bead to insure a seal. Used 17" tires are alot easier to come by and the oem wheels will give me the back spacing I need (5ish") to stay around 77-78" outside tire. Plus there cheaper and lighter than new steelies :)

Started a seperate thread on the 80/9.5 front.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=761670

Update

"finished" the front section of rust/floorpan repair this weekend. This was a big milestone for me, didnt think I would ever get to this point. I had to get this part done before I could start cutting the tunnel for the motor/trans swap.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1774.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1775.jpg

This pics shows a good angle for where the boatsides will be. Ignor the warpage on the rocker material, heat got it when doing the floorpan. It will be covered with the boatsides anyway and never be seen.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1776.jpg


Got the motor from the donor today, it was not an easy task alone to say the least. Got it out and around to the garage to start mockup though. Looks like alot of tunnel work will be needed to get it where I want it, that will be next.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1764.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1773.jpg


Also got a call from an old friend who brought by the 8 bolt h1's ill be recentering, these bad boys will clear the brakes :)

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1772.jpg

Prol going to go with these centers/rings. Going flat centers for sure for cost and to get the 5"+ back spacing I need.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=752726&highlight=

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f302/56462/rockwellconversion012.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f302/56462/rockwellconversion011.jpg

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd99/NWOff-Roader/HPIM3044.jpg

Sweet!! You're still at it, good to see..:smokin:

When I can :)

One day...a long time from now....it will be a BAD MOFO! And NO im not gonna sell it when its finished :flipoff2:

Did you figure out your suspension joints yet??? I used the Poly Perf. 4305 bushings, and went with a chromoly 3/4x5/8" heim, with a 5/8" bolt. The 3/4"x5/8" heim is rated way higher than the 3/4" x3/4" heim....Not sure why.

Did you figure out your suspension joints yet??? I used the Poly Perf. 4305 bushings, and went with a chromoly 3/4x5/8" heim, with a 5/8" bolt. The 3/4"x5/8" heim is rated way higher than the 3/4" x3/4" heim....Not sure why. Yeah Im bout 99% sure im going with a wishbone upper setup front and rear. It has worked well on 2slo's rig and from my understanding this setup acts like a leaf sprung setup in terms of travel. This will allow me to use my mech/assist steering without issues, simplifys the susp. in general, and satisfies my anal retintive need for the front to match the rear.

2slo's rig;
http://inlinethumb32.webshots.com/351/2955885390043391076S425x425Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2955885390043391076wzkCIP)

Front
http://inlinethumb11.webshots.com/9546/2745187950043391076S425x425Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2745187950043391076CeHnPu) http://inlinethumb31.webshots.com/43358/2878778310043391076S425x425Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2878778310043391076qanVPw)

Rear
http://inlinethumb43.webshots.com/44970/2422755400043391076S425x425Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2422755400043391076FeiCmZ) http://inlinethumb03.webshots.com/42178/2048974720043391076S425x425Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2048974720043391076dCwkRg)

For materials Im bout 99% sure on 2x.188 or .250 sq tube on the lowers with ballistics weld on 2.63 joints. On the upper prol go with 1.5".120 wall rnd with a forged 2.63 joint at the axle end. Bushings on all frame conections for cost and shock load absorbtion. Not sure on which bushings yet. Ill go with the 5/8 bore 2.63 joints and may go with polys PPM-4300-200. It also uses a 5/8 bolt and is similar in size to the ballistic joint. I would prefer this route over hiems for the rebuildability on the joints, strength on the single upper, and I believe the 2.63's have more misalignment that the 3/4x3/4 hiems steped down to 5/8 with the high mis. I would need. I also dont care about having adjustable lowers, I think I can set it up for the upper to be plenty.

Also from my understanding the load rating difference is from the larger head with the smaller bolt. This seems to be the way to go.


Joints...
http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/Ballistic-Joints_c_12.html

Bushings....
http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/Poly-Performance-Bushing-Kits-p-16605.html

glad your pluggin away at it. can't wait to see it when it's done.

Thanks man, one day, one day. Money is really whats holding me back now, hell I cant even afford to get the small amount of material I need to keep forward motion. It will be a long build but worth it...I hope.

Hows yours coming?

I didnt realize you were building something until now Josh. Looks really good, im sure it will be as badass as everything else you build.

-Jordan

I've been stalkng ya and its looking real good boss. :smokin: digging your axle choices as well, especially with the number of r/p's I've trashed. :homer:

can't wait to see your rig on the trail. :smokin:

HA! thanks guys, been on a pay'n gig for a bit but getting back on my axle tomorow and should have some updates by mon. Thanks for the reasurance on the 9.5" ring gear Jerry ;)

happy bday old fawker!


any new updates on the build?

B'day?? Well, how about that..Happy B'day man, and how about some updates on that rig.

happy birthday. updates?

Thanks guys. I havent worked on it any. Been on the axles, want to get them "done" before I move on. I did score alot of parts/material since last though. Got some 1.87x.420 tube for my lowers, a bunch of 1.5" anywhere from .180 to .500 wall ;) As soon as I get the axles done i'll start working on the frame.

Im really thinking about putting the tin top tub back for a less hardcore family build later and going all out with a buggy type build. The TT will be a rasin within a year if I dont and I REALLY dont want the body to hold me back on stuff. We'll see what happens. Something like this if I do....

http://a721.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/118/l_028e6e4ae24e3da64d04b9242ab786a8.jpg

http://a31.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/61/l_be0ed5d259c782b77c388342ff53765e.jpg

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/60/l_742ddd15f02147f583a39f6cc269a5cd.jpg

I wheeled with group at GMP last weekend. One guy had a rig that reminds me of that one. It had a 1.3, 4 link F&R, 100"WB, Yota axles, and 37" Krawler TAs. He idled up obstacles on the difficult rated trails that everyone else had to hit more than once. Even the bigger tire rigs didn't do as well as he did. I don't know how much difference his Krawler TAs make over Swampers.

My buddy Billy (pink zuk on 4d's) was out there too, said he saw you. He mentioned that same zuk. Im really leaning that way but will see. Its really weather I do it kow or 2 yrs after its done. The top just wont last long with me and I really hate to mash such a good TT. Ill keep moving forward and see what happens.

Updates? :D

Im at a turning point, help me decide. I have the body off the frame right now and will be making my own frame from 2x3x.188 either way. Really leaning towrds the buggy end of things as the top will be mashed eventually without an exo, which is out of the question for me.

A) Keep the top but no doors/glass
http://rides.webshots.com/album/560053585waYbYl

http://inlinethumb32.webshots.com/351/2955885390043391076S425x425Q85.jpg

B) Cut the top and keep the firewal, floor pan, hood.
http://www.muddevils4x4.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=510&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sid=88a49b91819089e9864515ea8139905e

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s260/rockmafia1/DPG%20-07-05-08/100_4707.jpg

C) Full chassis
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=658395


http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll273/ruearmstrong/buggy002.jpg

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll273/ruearmstrong/001-3.jpg

I have close to enuff material to fab the chassis, but it will cost more in the long run. Keeping the tub I will cut most of it up anyway, if I set it back I can build it later.

Thoughts?

Brad (Mossyrocks) says option 2, he is prol right. It will be cheaper, give me what im looking for and allow me to finish what I have started while using the parts I have at hand. I really hate to chop the top off but I know it is inevitable that it will be mashed. That and im going to need to modify all the pedals as well as the trans tunnel for all the toy parts im using. I would love to keep the zuk and build it 1 linked, mech/ass steering, mini axles and 37's. Then go all out on a bash buggy with the crusier axles and .180 wall tube I have.

Some days I just want to sell it all, I really have NO time or money for it right now.

i say option 1
you don't see enough really built tin tops, I wish mine was one even though its more work

I feel your pain JJ3.

with kids there is just not enough time to build quickly. I think you should stick with Option 1. keep the top. design the cage so that in the future (if needed) you can cut the top off. I think as long as you fab some roof sliders you should be fine.

look at 2slo's rig, if he had roof sliders he probably would have not damaged his tintop as bad. plus if you bring women/kids along you are going to want some sort of element protection.

if you look at my build you will see that i've installed plates on the roof which are sandwiched and welded to the inside cage. therefore the roof sliders will be solidly connected to the cage.

on my first shakedown run i will prove that they work as i plan on pushing the rig over on it's side to devirginize it.

either way, keep up the good work.

-Tristan

I really want to buildd 2 diff rigs. I may just wait on the TT till my son can help and build a bash buggy in the meantime. It makes me sick to even go to the garage right now, seems hopeless most days.

Don't let it get you down, man. Many of us have those same days, where it all seems overwhelming/hopeless. But you've got things going for you that many people don't... great ideas, great skills, a wife/family who supports this positive addiction, and all the time in the world to build what you want (even though I know it doesn't seem like it sometimes). There's no deadline here. Build as time/money allows, and when you find yourself getting down about it, look at that pic of your oldest sitting in the passenger seat with that big ass smile on his face. That's all the motivation you need. Let him see you stick with this project. Let him learn the virtue of setting a goal and achieving it. Let him see how proud you are to have him there beside you building it, completing it, and hitting the trails in it. Trust me, it'll be worth it... in more ways than you can imagine.

I guess I'll go ahead and throw my vote into the mix. I say option #2. I also say to look around, and have your friends look around, for a non-TT sammy body that you can use instead of the TT (that is, if you still REALLY want to have a TT wheeler at some point in the future -- If not, cut that biznitch up! :D ).

It's good to see you're still around, man. Any time you think it's all hopeless, think about my situation and how long it's taken/taking me to be able to build a rig. I feel your pain, x100. But trust me, you'll probably have 3 or 4 more rigs built and sold by the time I'm done with mine. :laughing:

Thanks man for the kind words.

I think ill just back away from it for a bit, maybe it wont rust away in the meantime.

option A. Hammer out the biggest dents as they appear, will look bad ass. when it is beyond recognition, cut of the top and you have option B :skull:

option A. Hammer out the biggest dents as they appear, will look bad ass. when it is beyond recognition, cut of the top and you have option B :skull:

I like this idea Josh, and you know we think a lot alike..:D

I am, I quit smoking 8 wks ago and ive been in and out of sanity since. Im a nut job any way but its worse now. I did work on the zuk today, did some paper work on the new frame. Its all drawn out and ready to go. I started to use the zuk frame until I grabed it and compressed the side wall in with my hand :shaking: that and it was FULL of mud/dirt.

Also talked to my bro-in-law thats doing round 2 on the high steer arms....ill pick one up tomorow ;)

BTW Chris I still have your groover. when ever you need it let me know.

Pic of option A shortly after completion :)
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/character1.jpg

I am, I quit smoking 8 wks ago and ive been in and out of sanity since. Im a nut job any way but its worse now. I did work on the zuk today, did some paper work on the new frame. Its all drawn out and ready to go. I started to use the zuk frame until I grabed it and compressed the side wall in with my hand :shaking: that and it was FULL of mud/dirt.

Also talked to my bro-in-law thats doing round 2 on the high steer arms....ill pick one up tomorow ;)

BTW Chris I still have your groover. when ever you need it let me know.

Pic of option A shortly after completion :)
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/character1.jpg

right on man. wish you were closer, would love to chat. great decision.

My vote is for #2 for sure.

#1 looks cool while the body still looks good, but as soon as all those dents come into play it looks like shit. Dont get me wrong dents are battle scars but at some point it just starts looking like a mangled POS!!
#2 is just Awesome looking in my opinion.
#3 Too many people do, its been over done, might as not even call it a Sami cause theres nothing left of it. Just build a tube buggy, dont even try to pass it off as a Sami.

Stay up on your build man, its coming along. Dont make yourself work on it, work on it when you feel like it, and dont when you dont!

Option #2 also. There isn't even enough of a difference between it and #3 to justify the extra money. Both look equally capable and pretty close in design. Don't rush it to get it done. No regrets, be patient and don't settle.

if its got the sammy hood its a sammy

Update!

Built a new frame from 2x3x.188

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1827.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1828.jpg

It even fit on the first try ;)
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1829.jpg

"balanced rig" :laughing:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1825.jpg

Love the new frame! It you where to make plans for your frame i would be willing to buy them. I know i could design and fab it, but im just too lazy/busy with other projects to take the zuk back apart to change frames.

I have the same two pictures and acouple more on my wall in the garage also.

SWEEET frame man :grinpimp:

Thanks. I really wanted a fresh start, and a soild foundation. I think I would have had more time in grinding/plating than I do in the new frame. Plus I gained 1" clearance using the 2x3 (depending on how my lowers mount)

I would do another but I would have to have 4-500 and the stock body brackets to do it. Its really more of a one off personal use project.

looks like a great start for the frame. Again so glad you are sticking to the tintop

are you happy yet :D

Id love to have one for my 4 door project. Awesome work. Jim

I don't know if its too late to vote anymore but I vote either 1 or 3... itd be cool to see a built hard top and then if you smash it up that bad and want to cut the top off later and build option 2 then you can do it after you got your moneys worth out of the top... or just go option 3 and you could keep the body to build later or sell it and use the cash to fund the rest of what you need for option 3.... I just would hate to see a good hard top completely cut apart, but thats just me...

if it rains hard where you are, option "A" would seem nice. it gets darn cold where i'm at and we've also been caught in a few high country snow storms that quickly invaded our sunny july day! as much as i love option "B", mine has kept it's body. i like doors and glass when it's cold and wet, or when our cursed winds hit 50+. i don't like going home due to severe weather, especially considering how many hours that can take. keep the body, use the doors when necessary. ditch the doors when not.

I told you to buy a full size Chevy with some 33s. :shaking:


:flipoff2:

Im not sure on the body as of yet, ill decide when its time. V, at this point a full size anything would be great for the family and work. :)


Ive gotten alot done on the zuk lately but my comp has been in the shop for 2 weeks so no way to put my pics up :( Ill update asap.

looking good, can't wait to see the update.

Hell you could come by sometime. I was talking turbo with a buddy today.

Got any pics yet??? :beer:

Not yet. Hard drive on the PC was fried and being warr. repaired. If its not back by the weekend ill find a way to post pics.

cool build up..gotta love tin tops...

Hell you could come by sometime. I was talking turbo with a buddy today.

Thats cool, I just now got my junk going. Everything is going good so far, I'm going to run it through emissions, so it should be interesting.:shaking:

UPDATE!

Got alot done lately....

Motor in;
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1838.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1839.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1840.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1844.jpg

Frame;
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1841.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1842.jpg

Adapter from toy trans to zuk case;
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1845.jpg

This where I need help. Link/belly design...

T-case is more or less where it is going. Ill prol use one of the case spine (wraps entire bolt pattern of case) with bushing set on itand the trans. Ill use a 2 peice front shaft so the lowers will break over at the same place as the shaft and give me a flat belly. I would like to run tri lower, straight upper 4 links. As well as make the case removable with out pulling the susp loose. The motor/trans will be removed together when any trans service is needed. I could build a small subframe assembly similar to buggys???

Any ideas would be great.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1848.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1850.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1851.jpg

nice motor mounts man. lighter and stouter than stock with less wrap up under load.:smokin:

Thanks, best part is I dug all of it out of a scrap pile at one place or another :)

lookin good!

bitchin progress. love the frame and mounts

Damn man, lookin real good!!..By the way, I need my groover next chance you get.
Have to cut some TSL's up..Holler, no rush though.

If you dont mind me asking, how far apart did you end up making ur frame?

love the progress

bitchin progress. love the frame and mountsthanks man

Damn man, lookin real good!!..By the way, I need my groover next chance you get.
Have to cut some TSL's up..Holler, no rush though. will do, just let me know if you need it before I can get there.

If you dont mind me asking, how far apart did you end up making ur frame?

love the progressNot at all. I went 28" out-out. took the taper out of the stock frame.

sneak peek.....

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1852.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1853.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1858.jpg

Hmmm.... for some reason those tires look familiar.

Hmmm.... for some reason those tires look familiar.

That's scary! What's on yours now Brad?

those.... haha. Josh borrowed them for the day to get his chit set

Yep, just another good friend deed. It was really nice to see it with them though ;)

Update

Got alot done on the bottom side. links will mount to the tubework.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1868.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1861.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1862.jpg
rear axle shaved and ready to go.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1869.jpg

Money is holding me back, maybe ill get some soon.

great progress JJ3

Thanks man. yours too. Im just tinkering around now till I get some cash. 500.00 and some time and it will be a rolling chassis :)

I will be moving soon and may sell everything but the axles and t-case. Any interest?

I will be moving soon and may sell everything but the axles and t-case. Any interest?
Please tell me I am misunderstanding this statement and you did not get this far to sell everything???
Come on man you are so close its hard their is precum we have entered the finish line now all you need is two pumps and we will be finished:flipoff2:

Just throwing it out there. I just have NO time or money and the thought of moving all of it in this state sucks. I will though :)

hope you don't sell off, that things turn'n out pretty bad ass

I couldnt do it. Its just setting now......collecting dust

sure seems like it would be easier to move than rebuild again.

Decided to keep moving forward. Updates soon ;)

Decided to keep moving forward. Updates soon ;)
There you go right on man. Any teasers?

Not yet, its coming along nicely though ;)

Glad to hear you decided to keep building. Even if it takes longer it will be worth the wait.

Since it has been so slick from all the rain, I cant keep mine off of the trees. I just beat it back out and spray on some flat black. I am glad I didn't put a nice paint job on it.

Yeah, looking back it has come along way for sure. I hope to have it rolling in 6-8 weeks....maybe even on tires ;)

I dont plan on keeping doors and rattle can paint, Im going to BEAT this one when its done

Looking at the way you connected your case to the trans, my worry would be driveline vibes. did you do something specific to eliminate this? Also, it might just be the pics but it looks like the 2wd yota trans shifter sits really far back?

not real sure what kind of answer your looking for. The trans/case are only connected, not mounted.....unless the zip ties and rachet strap count ;)

Man that is good news for sure. You need to call me when you get a chance ya know...

Just been busy man, 50-60 hrs week and 3 kids. Still got your groover, never remember to bring it when im that way. I hope to have soome progess pics soon.

I was worried about driveline vibes and damaging the transfer case. I cut the end yokes off 2 drive shafts, welded them together with a piece of thin flat stock around them. http://s244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/Sawzall/?action=view&current=DCP_2378.jpg

Mine will never see speed so had not even thought of it.

Just been busy man, 50-60 hrs week and 3 kids. Still got your groover, never remember to bring it when im that way. I hope to have soome progess pics soon.

Well cool, tell the little lady I said hello. Holler when you can. Later.

JJ3 sorry bout that didnt explain it well. PVKJ454 im glad you understood. do you recieve any vibes? do you drive it on the road? My only worry with connect them strait together JJ3 isany kind of twisting or bump on the t-case would put too much stress on the joint. I would think at least with a set up like PVKJ454 you have some kind of wiggle room.

JJ3 i was asking about the trans shift and placement. it looks a bit far back but it might be the picture. how is it in relation to driveability?

I see, no speed here so ill risk it. I will prol have to bend the shifter to where I want it.

i was just wondering im a bout 6'2" ive never rode in a sami do you guys think i could fit in one or do you think it would be very uncomfortable the reason i ask is cause i found a really good deal on one but i was just wondering sorry for the dumb ass question

i was just wondering im a bout 6'2" ive never rode in a sami do you guys think i could fit in one or do you think it would be very uncomfortable the reason i ask is cause i found a really good deal on one but i was just wondering sorry for the dumb ass question

Saying you're sorry for something WHILE you're doing it means you're not really sorry. People put a lot of time and thought into their build threads in this forum. I'm fairly sure JJ would rather not have his thread watered down with extremely generic questions that have nothing to do with his build.

Don't hijack threads. Start your own thread. :flipoff2:

Update......

Uppers are 1.5x.240 with 3/4x3/4 cromo hiems, lowers are 2x.380 with 7/8x7/8 cromo hiems. Hopefully it will hold on this pig of a zuk ;)

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/SD530678.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/SD530679.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/SD530676.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/SD530673.jpg

Looks good. Buy or make your link brackets?

Thanks, I build everything from scap

Keep it coming dude, your getting there

would you mind taking a few pictures like on page 5 to show how you utilized your belly pan to mount the links?

Thank you, and I think this build is great.

mike-

any updates dude?

Ill get some good pics asap. Should have took some while they were on the table....oh well. Im on the front now, have the upper and lowers in, on to the panhard.:) Ill post calc numbers when I update too.

Any update?

Sorry for the wait, life has been full on.

W.B. ended up 104.5" Picked up the 37s for rollers on the cheap. Still building for 40's
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/SD530680.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/SD530681.jpg

Track width is 79" with these. I'll have to move the driver side knuckle around a bit for camber/castor.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/SD530685.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/SD530691.jpg

In order to run high steer (where it is mocked now) i'll have to run a double ended ram...havent decided yet. Front links, pan hard was a PAIN!
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/SD530686.jpg

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Requested pic?
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Got a tow pig too. 99 f250, xlt, v10, 5sp, 4wd. Needs a clutch and a tune up. Got it for 5k 2 min from home ;)
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nice work, and perfect stance :smokin: what 40" s?

Thanks, its prety low now....less than 6' to the top and tires are 2" off the floor. Deff. going bigger on tires though, these measure out to 34"

i think a single ended would put a lot of strain on one knuckle, not that it couldn't take it but a doulbe ended seems like it would share the load. you could also tuck it up out of the way.

Its more about fitment now. The frame side panhard mount is where the single ended ram wants to be at full stuff. With all ive put into this axle I would really like to run double shear high steer and a double ended ram. I have the arms milled out, just havent had tim to finish them.

Post a pic of your setup man.

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b/c of the leaves i could get the ram up higher. when i link it i will redo the mount. the tube is a little higher than the bottom of the axle so it works out pretty good for now

The front end came together very nicely. Those panhard mounts are scrap/leftovers? :smokin:

I know you said your tie rod side ram mount would interfere with the frame side panhard

Its more about fitment now. The frame side panhard mount is where the single ended ram wants to be at full stuff.

Nothing wrong with a DE ram, but with mechanical steering and a panhard, the single ended would be easier and less expensive.

Maybe I am missing it, but it wont fit off of the side of the diff, right behind the tie rod?

http://i792.photobucket.com/albums/yy206/DBozsPictures/for%20other%20peoples%20threads/JJ3front.jpg

I am guessing there isn't much room between the panhard and tie rod, so at full stuff (when they are closer together), there isn't room for the ram in between them?

Thanks man, the lil tires are really discouraging at times ;( overall happy with it though. All my mounts are homemade from scrap, starting out with cut up debbie cake boxs ;)

I already have my orbital valve so the cost diff. is only in the ram. I have a few steering boxs setting here so it is an option but I will have to run mid steer for the single ended. This pic shows it better...

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/SD530686.jpg

At full stuff and full lock to the drivers side the frame side panhard is below the tie rod (highsteer) Thats with around 4" vertical compression

Phil your stuff looks good man! Happy with it?

Well the plans have changed ;) Started with a free sidekick......

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/Sidekickpic.jpg

Then got trigger happy with the sawsall....

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Going pro mod style now, something like this. updates to come.

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I love it! Im startin to really like trak/kicks

Well the plans have changed ;) Started with a free sidekick......

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/Sidekickpic.jpg

Then got trigger happy with the sawsall....

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Going pro mod style now, something like this. updates to come.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/001.jpg

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I wish somebody would give me a free sidekick :flipoff2: So you are ditching the Samurai body, reusing your frame/chassis, and building a full tube chassis on top of it, with a Sidekick hood/grille/styling? Good deal. There is a pile of 'Jeep' Pro-Mods, I am looking forward to seeing your full buggy that is distinctly Suzuki

I wish somebody would give me a free sidekick :flipoff2: So you are ditching the Samurai body, reusing your frame/chassis, and building a full tube chassis on top of it, with a Sidekick hood/grille/styling? Good deal. There is a pile of 'Jeep' Pro-Mods, I am looking forward to seeing your full buggy that is distinctly Suzuki HA! It was going to scrap after my buddy pulled the drivtrain. Going sat to get the panels off another one (spares) that our other buddy has for the drivetrain. I gave the sammi tub to Nic (buddy #1) so it dosent set in my yard and rot. He will put it to good use. Wife thinks im crazy but I have a vison! ;)

Got the idea from here...

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=776505

HA! It was going to scrap after my buddy pulled the drivtrain. Going sat to get the panels off another one (spares) that our other buddy has for the drivetrain. I gave the sammi tub to Nic (buddy #1) so it dosent set in my yard and rot. He will put it to good use. Wife thinks im crazy but I have a vison! ;)

Got the idea from here...

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=776505

i would have to agree, that is a sick @$$ build, i have followed from the start on another forum. love your idea, now go to work.

Josh you are hard at work man! My wife would have killed me by now.

Just read your whole thread. Lot of work there to make a drastic change in direction. Hope you know you have inspired others. Good work. Keep us updated.

Just read your whole thread. Lot of work there to make a drastic change in direction. Hope you know you have inspired others. Good work. Keep us updated.

You don't know him too well..:D

subscribed:smokin: feel free to pm me anytime if you got any questions on how we did ours

haha, your like a damn woman!!! looks great though man, I need to get up that way and check it out one day. And you need to come up here to see the new shop/ shoot some clays and targets.

Update, this is a BIG bite I have take'n. Alot of the time I second guess this one :shaking: Chassis is 52" wide and 66" tall on the "37's"

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Im having a real hard time seeing the dash come together. The stock sidekick dash and wheel seem huge. Ive serched, looked, and thought myself crazy over it. Even considered throwing in the towel regularly. Any help would be great.

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Having a hard time seeing it turn into this....

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=483227&stc=1&d=1259559574

The stock wheel and dash ARE huge. Get a smaller 11 or 12inch or so wheel. I saw FAWK a dash just do a center concole to the window bar. Its a kick hood fyi

Was the kick P/S or non P/S?

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=506654&stc=1&d=1268113485


Man that helps ALOT! I really appreciate that pic! I think both of the kicks Icut up were PS, but im running full hydro. Whay do you ask? Anymore pics of your junk?

Bud, i wish this project was closer to me. It would be fun to help biuld! Im workin on acouple ideas for you. I just need to find the pics. I have 1000's of pics to look through...

Glad to see this thread up and going again!

http://strangecosmos.com/images/content/136836.jpg

You have come to far to give up now. Take a look in Gen4x4, the classifieds etc for other buggy builds and steal some ideas. I like the center console idea. Simple and clean :smokin:

I like the idea of keeping it simple. You can always make something that works ok and looks ok. That bad ass aluminum dash we all want with our GPS unit..... it can wait lol. The mato for my next buggy is " keep it simple stupid!"

Thanks for all the input guys. Im back on track and will be moving forward as I have time. Keep the pics coming ;)

Give-er Hell Your rig is looking good. :beer:


I had to read your whole build from the start, and even though I have a soft spot for Tin tops, I definately like the Pro mod style move I think you will be way happier in the long run.

I think you made the right choice. The chassis looks awsome keep plugging away...

You a chip slinger by trade??? (machinist/toolmaker)

Thanks man, Im starting to see it myself. I hope to work on it a bit this weekend. Im a carpenter by trade, I work for a large local general contractor

Update....

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:D:D front fenders still on:D

Spent some time on it today. Starting to feel like im geeting somewhere with it. :)

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suskribd

Looking really good man.

You think you have a slow build I still don't have the 83 done. It hasn't seen a trail since Arkansas.

Damn dude, your skills never cease to amaze me. Look great.

holy crap dude. this build has completely changed since last time i checked in lol. here i thought you were building a sami, now i see your building a pro mod buggy with tracker body panels:laughing:


looks good bro!

Hey Josh,

You still want to trade those 37s for my 39.5s? Give me a call or text man.

suskribd

X2 ........... nice build for sure !!

Thanks guys. I got another good day or two in since the last pic's. Ill post the pics up asap. V, I do want the 39's just be a week or so till I can meet.

For a carpenter you have some Fine metal fabrication skills. most carpenters I know dont know there ass from their elbow when it comes to building rigs.
Kudo's to you sir.... keep up the good work :smokin:

Now the tough Questions for you since you inspired me to build a 9.5/80 hybrid front for a future rig...Thanks like I needed more projects :flipoff2: haha

Anyways I tracked one down but want to know some more before I throw money at it. The high pinion would be a dead give away but the third member is gone. First time with yota axles want to know more I guess.

Read your axle thread. defiantely good tech...

Do all 80 front axle housings look like the photo below?

Are you running 80 stock shafts?

Are they 30 spline?

What are the front axle shaft daimeter's inner outer?

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e37/33JJ/leftovers/100_1738.jpg

josh any updates?

OK, after a long delay from 60-70hrs weeks at work, lots of cussing, and a commitment to never touch it again, I got a half day it on it. :shaking: Traded a buddy the 37's for some 39's, and finished the roof bars.

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Moved the back roof bar out 5ish" for more head coverage.
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The roof bars complete, these about did me in. Very complex (IMO) notches. In the end it will have a 1/16" stainless steel top on it.
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The boy about to flop in the yard, made me smile...
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Reccovery..
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On the front axle, I really dont have any info on it. Check my thread on it, may have the answers there.

Worked on it all week. Never was happy with the rear frame and the frame side uppers were temp anyhow.

Before...
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After...
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Hell yea man, lookin sexy.

Lmao at blake. Haha

nice what steering arms are u using ?

Awesome work! This is one of my favorite zuki buggys for sure. Nicely done. Keep it up man, I know how it goes. Don't give up.

Thanks guys.

Im building my own steering with help from others.

Im really trying to stay motivated and moving forward. Its been working for the past couple weeks ;)

Update....

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Chassis/sheetmetal ONLY for sale 2200.00
423-505-9440 NO TIRE KICKERS PLEASE!

you have a pm:smokin:

:smokin: looks really good with the skins on it

PM returned.

Thanks guys, im really happy with it. I plan to do it again with the other set of skins I have.

In my best chris griffin voice... "whaaaaaaaa?"

Looks awesome though buddy!

EDIT: j/k i cant buy it. I didnt see you had it for sale.

Shipped to 95827 please.......

I love it! Great work!

Josh is ocd about fabbing. This chassis is worth it.

that looks fuckin sick dude!

Again thanks guys, im a newb at this level of fab so it has been a hit or miss kinda road. Im still a LOOONG way from being done. I just cant see us being able to put the money it to finish but anything is possible. I will keep working on it and if it sells good, if not not it will just set.

The goal and the "finished" project

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Hey check your pm's on the chassis.

PM returned.

Been working on it still. Moved the a cuople tubes around to make sure there is enough room for the radiator. Moved the pane tanks back 2".

Before;
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After;
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Boatsides;
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Naked;
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If this is still around when I get my jeep shat sold I want just the chasis and skins!

Lots of PM's and email's, lots of interest but no takers yet. Im flexable on how its sold and will consider trades as long as there is at least 800.00 cash in the deal.

Man i wanted to see this thing done, life throws you curves though sometimes. Well i hope it goes to a good home

Tt so I can find it on tapatalk. Love this build

I sold the chassis yesterday. Ill see if the guy will update it as he completes. I kept my axles/wheels and will build another one.

Your breaking my heart you would have had a lot of fun in that thing. Loved the hood lined and how slammed it was with nothing but tires greeting you front and rear. Nice job on the cruiser axles I have third member in my parts pile I never used in the end.

I made a blueprint of it and have another set of skins ;)

Sweet build man!

I have started another one almost identical to this...... Im selling out completely when the chassis is done, I will have most everything needed to make a runner out of it so if anyone is interested PM me.

-Josh

Got the next one done yet? Now I have money so if you get a second one of these built and skinned I'd pay the asking price of the first one :D

any updates from the guy that bought it?

I built another one, sold it at about 80% complete. I could do another but no skins right now.

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I built another one, sold it at about 80% complete. I could do another but no skins right now.


That last one you sold is looking good. The 4 links, airshocks and axles are mounted. Only a couple of easy mods had to be done to the chassis to work with his combo.

You did a great job on the tube work. Now I want one.

Cody will post some photos later.

Sweet man. Im glad to hear it is working out for him. Feel free to post some pics and thanks. I hope to build one for me one day ;)

did it get finished

did it get finished
Hopefully it will be ready for disassembly to paint the chassis next week. He is shooting for completion at the end of the month and take it to Trailfest. http://www.sfwda.org/trailfest/

Rumor has it that the guy who bought ur first chassis is in the process of putting a super charged 3.4 with an automatic and a single 4.7 case in it.

we want pics!!!

Here is a couple of photos at Golden Mountain Park yesterday while we were cutting a new trail. He destroyed a set of 6.5 T/C gears on a huge ledge.

It has 4 wheel steer Toyota axles, supercharged 1.6, A/T, and 40" LTBs.

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/Sawzall/Temp/0611111115.jpg
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that kick is great. no doubt it is one of my favorites!!!

Here is a couple of photos at Golden Mountain Park yesterday while we were cutting a new trail. He destroyed a set of 6.5 T/C gears on a huge ledge.

It has 4 wheel steer Toyota axles, supercharged 1.6, A/T, and 40" LTBs.

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/Sawzall/Temp/0611111115.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/Sawzall/Temp/0611111011_2.jpg

Great to finally see some action shots! Lets see some more :smokin: