: Safari Gard


SafariGard
01-02-2009, 09:59 PM
To all,

I opened the web site with updated info on it. The items we have in stock are noted on the site. We are still building inventory, so yes, there is much more to come. I will be back in the United States as of Monday and will be available to answer any and all questions and concerns. Look forward to speaking to some of you, and wish you all the best. Happy New Year.

Very Respectfully,

Casey Gray

:D

m016324
01-05-2009, 01:01 PM
that's interesting. How's Greg doing he recover fully? You guys going out to KOH?

-ben

SafariGard
01-05-2009, 08:44 PM
Just spoke with Greg today. He looked pretty good... will let you know about KOH

Dougal
01-05-2009, 10:55 PM
Do you have a good picture of your RRC rock sliders?

Buckon37s
01-05-2009, 11:02 PM
I hope the best for your business. The designs were good.

SafariGard
01-06-2009, 06:03 AM
Do you have a good picture of your RRC rock sliders?

Will get one to you shortly.

PTSchram
01-07-2009, 07:37 AM
Casey:
If you look, you'll see that I've never had anything bad to say about S-G, once I had some real first person experience. I still lust after a three-link.

But, that said, I'm pretty critical of websites. Please proofread the website and make some corrections. For one thing, you'll find a $100 discrepancy in the price of the three-link system.

Wishing the best of luck to you and a quick recovery to Greg (what happened?). If I can recover from whatever the Hell hit me last year, anybody can get healthy.

ROVERDOC
01-07-2009, 08:29 PM
Well...this seems legit...SG is making a comeback. Thanks Casey for the pics and I am looking forward to my blade.

transientmechanic
01-07-2009, 10:17 PM
It would be helpful for those like myself, who are very familiar with the "old" Greg Jevne SG, if something was said about what happened with the company. Who runs it now? Is Greg still involved? What about other staff? What does the future hold for SG?

ROVERDOC
01-09-2009, 11:41 PM
Well....Casey and Wyatt left alittle while ago...they made me a custom slimline with no brush for my disco on short notice....drove to my father in laws in Cali during rush hour on a friday and helped install it before heading out for a wheeling trip...this bumper is beautiful and is super tucked....Nice job guys. Thanks for coming through. It looks like things really are changing. Props to Safarigard

DiscoveryXD
01-10-2009, 12:25 AM
that's awesome Dan! post pics when you get a chance.....

I've always wanted a $G 3 link on my disco.... hmmmm....

glad to hear you guys are back in business.

mightymg1
01-10-2009, 03:18 PM
THe 3 link is BAD!!! THIS is what kind of flex you can get out of a 3 link with 14 inch shocks in the front!

paulred96
01-10-2009, 03:47 PM
THe 3 link is BAD!!! THIS is what kind of flex you can get out of a 3 link with 14 inch shocks in the front!

I've picked-up a used SG 3 link and it has just been sitting in the garage waiting but my D1 is still my daily driver. What are the road manners like with the SG 3 link? I also have castor corrected - clocked swivel balls which I've been told would be an issue with a SG 3 link install. Any info related to road manners of the SG 3-link and if I would need to go back to non-caster corrected swivel balls to run it. Knowledge and schooling on SG 3 link would be appreciated.

bigbluelunchbox
01-10-2009, 04:51 PM
I've picked-up a used SG 3 link and it has just been sitting in the garage waiting but my D1 is still my daily driver. What are the road manners like with the SG 3 link? I also have castor corrected - clocked swivel balls which I've been told would be an issue with a SG 3 link install. Any info related to road manners of the SG 3-link and if I would need to go back to non-caster corrected swivel balls to run it. Knowledge and schooling on SG 3 link would be appreciated.

I've had a 3link on my truck for about 7 years now, off and on. When I went to a 5in lift and 6deg corrected swivels, I had to modify the tie rod guard. I simply replaced the SG one with some 3x3 boxed steel. This allowed the tie rod to rotate down with the swivels, and not hit. Make sense? Anyway...it has been on my daily driver since day one with no problems.

Chad

mightymg1
01-10-2009, 05:38 PM
Personally the on road manners vary by the driver, its all what you are used to and can stand, I though it was fine I would rip through the canyons to moab at 70 or 80. My passengers may tell you another story... I never had any problems with it.. If you run a rancho 9000 its even better, on the road you can spin the dial to stiffen the shock up, then off road you can soften them up..

ROVERDOC
01-11-2009, 08:30 AM
Personally the on road manners vary by the driver, its all what you are used to and can stand, I though it was fine I would rip through the canyons to moab at 70 or 80. My passengers may tell you another story... I never had any problems with it.. If you run a rancho 9000 its even better, on the road you can spin the dial to stiffen the shock up, then off road you can soften them up..


The cadillac rear....and ranchos....laners favorites

mightymg1
01-11-2009, 08:46 AM
:grinpimp:

PTSchram
01-11-2009, 12:17 PM
I've picked-up a used SG 3 link and it has just been sitting in the garage waiting but my D1 is still my daily driver.

Well now, if you decide to not put it on, make sure you call me first!!!

I've been looking for a used three-link for five years, found one and did not have my checkbook with me.

paulred96
01-11-2009, 01:27 PM
Not for sale PT - - I've always wanted a 3 link I have just been waiting to install until I did not need to drive the D1 everyday. I've just gotten some feedback locally that the 3 link may not drive as stable as a stock radius arm set-up - - I run about 45 miles a day to and from work, mostly highway @ 70mph - - some firends who know me, have strongly suggested I wait until the D-1 is not my Daily Driver. I am thinking I'll move forward with gathering some needed missing hardware, comple the modifiction suggested above for the clocked swivel balls, and I'll probably install it in the spring or summer this year. If I don't like it I can switch it back. Seems like my logical next step for the truck.

Discosaurus
01-11-2009, 03:13 PM
You didn't say how old that 3-link was...

Be sure it's a '2nd generation' design with the better designed cross member. The 1st design was a little notorious for being a bit weak.

transientmechanic
01-11-2009, 03:56 PM
I would like to clear up, before this turns into a 3-link argument, that the "weakness" in the original design originated from the stock transmission crossmember, not from any SG manufactured part.

To my knowledge, there have been no failures of the re-design with the new, fabricated crossmember.

I have driven and ridden thousands of miles in a 90 with a 3 link and Fox adjustable shocks (although I do not own a 3 link myself, but that is because I dont currently have a Rover to install one on!) and it was honestly transparent to me on-road. Just like with any coil sprung suspension, a lot of the success lays in the shock tuning. I could present you a 3 link with great shocks that drives like a WRX, and I could present you a radius arm truck with crap shocks and worn out bushings that you wouldn't want to take around the block.

I would not be nervous to install one on a daily driver. You have it, so you might as well install it and see! Although mildly involved to install, it is all easily removable.

My only gripe with the SG design is the decreased servicability of the front diff with the 3 link installed. In order to remove the front diff you have to disassemble half of the front suspension.

My $.02- I have no affiliation with SG aside from having worked with, installed, and used their parts for many years. If the new management can tackle the age-old problems the company has had with inventory and shipping then there is no reason to assume they cannot be back on top of the game as they were in the late 1990s.

paulred96
01-11-2009, 07:13 PM
Not sure how old this 3 link is - - I've had it sitting for about 2 years. The guy I got it from is a good friend - - one of the folks who got me into this insane stuff. He used it on his truggy but when he retired the truggy and moved back to a truck he could drive on the street he went back with RTE 5" radius arms - - thus part of my decision to wait to install it. He had it on his truggy at least 4 years and for all I know he may have even bought it used. I would not be suprised to learn that the 3 link I have is over 6 years old. This thread just reminded me he still has the center link trans mount at his house - He had spot welded it to the frame. I'll need to call him and see when I can get it. If my memory is correct the center trans mount is straight in its design. From what I remember center link and trans mount appeared well built (at least to me) the concern I had was more for the thinner tubing used on the outer links that go in place of the radius arms but I've never heard any concerns other than making sure all the bolts remain tight. This will be a spring or summer project for me. I'll need to find all new hardware and will probably want to install new bushings as well as modify the front diff piece for clocked swivel ball steering link.

jbailey
01-11-2009, 08:26 PM
paul you've got the improved version. Should not be an issue of strength.

PT.. Why not just make the 3-link yourself. Really looks very straight forward to me.

Buckon37s
01-11-2009, 08:55 PM
paul you've got the improved version. Should not be an issue of strength.

PT.. Why not just make the 3-link yourself. Really looks very straight forward to me.

The one that Dallas just finished for me is killer. There are some different ways to do it for sure.

paulred96
01-12-2009, 08:03 AM
John,
Spring or summer project. Is you garage & lift open? - - don't you want to help?

isabellaclarke
01-12-2009, 09:15 AM
Paul, I'll sell you my disco that you can daily drive and retire the red one for wheeling purposes.:D

jbailey
01-12-2009, 10:17 AM
Paul, Open for you anytime:)

Adams..... Your Disco is alittle $$$$ But you never know someone may buy it.

cptyarderho
01-12-2009, 10:22 AM
Bailey, if you built a 3 link I would buy that. Maybe do a small batch, spread the costs around?

paulred96
01-12-2009, 11:05 AM
Thanks, John - - as always I appreicate your skills and space.

Adams, When did you get the disco. The first time I saw it was when you put it up for sale. Have you even wheeled it yet? Naw on the disco - - if I buy anything from you it will be the green truck with the 60's.

isabellaclarke
01-12-2009, 01:11 PM
total hijack, but the disco may be gone tomorrow, only had it 6 months or so, and if you want the commando...speak up...it may be gone this week as well.

SafariGard
01-12-2009, 10:25 PM
Prepare yourself for a new experience.
Safari Gard
New vehicles - New products - New values

Murrieta, California - January, 7 2009 –
Safari Gard. The original brand that started the masses on a quest to gain the best product for the ultimate machine, is about to repeat history once again. Please join us in our exciting new venture to mix business with pleasure, and bring back the legacy that introduced the Land Rover world to a unique design build like no other. Safari Gard.

The Safari Gard team have been busy with the task at hand of building and stocking the shelves with the inventory that had once made the Safari Gard name great. With a great affection, it is our pleasure to inform you that we are ready to serve you with products today. Land Rover, Mercedes Benz, Toyota, Dodge Jeep, and Ford owners will all benefit from the superior built products that we currently are offering. Safari Gard continues to upgrade it's existing product design and works diligently to create new product on a quarterly basis. Our newest vehicle to hit our R&D engineering floor is the Land Rover LR3. This particular product line will be available to ship in mid-February. Casey Gray, Safari Gard President and CEO, says "There is no equal. The product speaks for itself. Safari Gard is clearly the best choice available. Our attention to detail and a strong commitment to customer satisfaction are our only goals. Even in this economic recession, customers still call us and order the name synonymous with quality. Safari Gard. The orders have been coming in 4 and 5 times a day over the past 15 days. It is exciting to see a legend in quality and design, come 'back to life'. “


Please join us in our celebration of the Safari Gard brand, and please know that we value your business. Your complete satisfaction is our goal. We look forward to a job well done.

Safari Gard is here to serve you with all of your vehicle needs. The concept, the design, and the build are what sets Safari Gard apart from the rest. Please feel free to call on us, visit us on the web, or just drop in. Let's talk about what Safari Gard can do for you

uninformed
01-13-2009, 01:15 AM
best of luck

Serg

PTSchram
01-14-2009, 07:37 AM
PT.. Why not just make the 3-link yourself. Really looks very straight forward to me.

I have the stock to do so, have an axle on a bench for measuring and mock-up, measurements and sketches, but nowhere near the time. Why I have even less time will become apparent to everyone in about a week.

Between never-ending demand for repair work, we're expanding. The past week has been spent gutting the office to make a workable office and waiting room. We're accepting bids to add another overhead door and as soon as the weather breaks, we'll be pouring concrete to add another bay, alon with fencing the side yard to comply with the zoning folks.

BTW-AfiRover has pretty much formally joined the team, more to come later-might even buy a yellow star again. We'll see. he needs to pull his own weight and make it profitable for both of us, or "He's outta here!":flipoff2:

Cheers,
PT

rugburn
01-14-2009, 08:36 AM
Ever consider adding Toyotas to your line up????


Good to hear you are expanding PT

john

PTSchram
01-14-2009, 11:45 AM
Ever consider adding Toyotas to your line up????


Good to hear you are expanding PT

john

It's bad enough a Range Rover client has demanded that I work on her Lexus.

Dougal
01-14-2009, 01:31 PM
I have driven and ridden thousands of miles in a 90 with a 3 link and Fox adjustable shocks (although I do not own a 3 link myself, but that is because I dont currently have a Rover to install one on!) and it was honestly transparent to me on-road. Just like with any coil sprung suspension, a lot of the success lays in the shock tuning. I could present you a 3 link with great shocks that drives like a WRX, and I could present you a radius arm truck with crap shocks and worn out bushings that you wouldn't want to take around the block.

The reason the 3 link front adds articulation to the front is because it reduces the roll-stiffness.
So yes you're going to have a lot more body-roll on road unless you rejig your spring choices to bring some of that roll-stiffness back.
Sure you can stiffen up the shocks to reduce how fast that body roll appears, but it causes other issue (ride quality and traction suffer).

Offroad articulation and on-road handling (moose test anyone?) are at the opposite ends of the spectrum for suspension requirements. The best setup for doing both would probably be a 3 link front end with a swaybar that can be disconnected for offroad use, maybe even a swaybar that can be run in several different positions to give differing roll-stiffness. Many track and club race cars have simple adjustable linkages to change swaybar stiffness.

PTSchram
01-14-2009, 06:06 PM
Many track and club race cars have simple adjustable linkages to change swaybar stiffness.

The range of swaybar adjustment on stock cars is astounding! I don't think that we'd need nearly as much, but Dougal raises a good point in suggesting adjustable sway bars.

SafariGard
01-15-2009, 01:11 AM
Casey:
If you look, you'll see that I've never had anything bad to say about S-G, once I had some real first person experience. I still lust after a three-link.

But, that said, I'm pretty critical of websites. Please proofread the website and make some corrections. For one thing, you'll find a $100 discrepancy in the price of the three-link system.

Wishing the best of luck to you and a quick recovery to Greg (what happened?). If I can recover from whatever the Hell hit me last year, anybody can get healthy.

PT,

I have just recently purchased the "in search of the experience" video from Hovik. I believe I recognize the name for the film. Nice Work.

I have finally made peace with the fact that I am not a programmer and defaulted to the professionals in the IT realm. The site will be upgraded in the next 48 hours.

I hope to get you that 3 link you dream of, any plans on what you would like to put it on.

Very Respectfully,

Casey Gray

michaels
01-15-2009, 02:31 AM
more DII stuff! not every drives the "classic" rovers!

Psimpson7
01-15-2009, 04:58 AM
On the 3link kit, how low down does the track rod protector (radius arm mount) on the axle tube sit? Does anyone have an image from the front?

Cheers.

mightymg1
01-15-2009, 05:57 AM
Ive banged this off some serious rocks and its still not bent, its not as bad as you would think it is..

SafariGard
01-15-2009, 08:24 AM
more DII stuff! not every drives the "classic" rovers!

Michaels,

We currently have several products for the DII under production. These are in the process of being Quality tested.

Very respectfully,

Casey Gray

Psimpson7
01-15-2009, 04:17 PM
thanks for that image, and the experience of use. :)