: Frame build tube or square


jesuscowboy
01-05-2009, 03:58 PM
I now frame builiding has been covered alot but what are the votes for tube or just square. If I go with tube I was thinking about 1.5" 1/8 thick and have two rails with short notch pieces in between; and of course if go with square thinking about 2x4 3/16 or 1/4.

Haggar
01-05-2009, 04:20 PM
I now frame builiding has been covered alot but what are the votes for tube or just square. If I go with tube I was thinking about 1.5" 1/8 thick and have two rails with short notch pieces in between; and of course if go with square thinking about 2x4 3/16 or 1/4.

Perhaps you ought to state what this is for, what type of suspension, how much stock equipment, etc, you are trying to mount to this frame.

zachv
01-05-2009, 04:25 PM
I say use 2x5" 3/8" wall. That will be light.

Grauss
01-05-2009, 05:45 PM
Just don't do what DECO did... (http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=747223)

But seriously, depending on what you want to do with it makes a big difference. If you want to do a buggy you could do all tube, or you could do a square subframe with tube. If your just rebuilding a jeep frame, I'd say 2x4 or 2.5x4 and do 3/16th wall, 1/4 wall is just overkill in my opinion unless you plan on dropping it off a very tall cliff...

Bump&Grind
01-05-2009, 07:43 PM
ah booty fab how I missed thee. Tubing is easier to work with, mitre cuts and such but tubing looks so much cleaner.

charlieboyd65
01-06-2009, 01:27 PM
Just don't do what DECO did... (http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=747223)

But seriously, depending on what you want to do with it makes a big difference. If you want to do a buggy you could do all tube, or you could do a square subframe with tube. If your just rebuilding a jeep frame, I'd say 2x4 or 2.5x4 and do 3/16th wall, 1/4 wall is just overkill in my opinion unless you plan on dropping it off a very tall cliff...

At least Deco built his own junk (which doesn't seem to have fallen apart yet). Gauss, tell us all about your build on your YJ and Rubi...

Maybe you should lay off trashing others that actually build their own stuff, when you are merely enjoying the fruit of someone else's labor on your daddy's dime (ie. buy an already built rig, but don't fabricate shiat).

Nothing wrong with buying a built rig, but don't talk smack about someone else learning to fabricate and working on their own project, when you are too afraid to fire up the welder and grinder.

You were trashing him on his build thread, like a little punk and doing the same here. You have 0 room to talk. Put up or shut up!

Sure, Deco has some things to learn with fabricating (and grammar), but you also have a few things to learn about life.

big giant head
01-06-2009, 01:33 PM
At least Deco built his own junk (which doesn't seem to have fallen apart yet). Gauss, tell us all about your build on your YJ and Rubi...

Maybe you should lay off trashing others that actually build their own stuff, when you are merely enjoying the fruit of someone else's labor on your daddy's dime (ie. buy an already built rig, but don't fabricate shiat).

Nothing wrong with buying a built rig, but don't talk smack about someone else learning to fabricate and working on their own project, when you are too afraid to fire up the welder and grinder.

You were trashing him on his build thread, like a little punk and doing the same here. You have 0 room to talk. Put up or shut up!

Sure, Deco has some things to learn with fabricating (and grammar), but you also have a few things to learn about life.




We all have to start somewhere, you just don't roll out of bed and start fabricating sick tube buggies, I say build it safe, and limit it to what your funds, skills and life can allow.

Edit: I guess I should post this in the other thread, but I have seen this jeep work and it does just fine for what it is built for. It is 100% DECO's and his old man doesn't drive it but, he gets enjoyment out of seeing his son drive and for some people that's more fulfilling than anything....

astjp2
01-06-2009, 02:26 PM
I would use a combination of round and square, it gives you the best of both worlds!

56Maynard
01-07-2009, 04:15 PM
Tube is tube whether its round square or rectangle. My advice based on the wording of your question is to hire an experienced chassis fabricator and forget about wasting any steel and electricity.

BnTMike
01-08-2009, 09:25 PM
I have built 3 now and all this way... stacked, strapped and plated... 3/16 2*4 and there is a 4degree kick to to match a cj-7 frame via pie slice and fold then weld and plate. the 4 degree kicks are in the sub frame only the front and rear rails are straight box tube

mike
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