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IDIeselman

01-09-2009, 01:43 PM

i am also a ford guy and i am buliding a pre smog 460 that i hope will have 650 to 700 horse(well that is the goal) but i am a cheap bastid and i can get 429s and 460s pretty cheap (i own a scrap yard)
i have herd some people combinieing the 460 and 429
i think is like this a 429 block and 460 crank then bore the block like .120 thou
and get a 535
am i corect ?

IIRC The only difference between a 429/460 is the crank and location of the pin in the piston, I know for sure The 545 stoker kit fits no problem, no clearancing required. .120 is way too much without sonic testing and would be very rare to accomplish due to core shift in the castings, 0.060 is max before testing.

82F100SWB

01-09-2009, 03:51 PM

IDIeselman

01-09-2009, 04:09 PM

Currently running a pretty mild 460, I intend to go 521 or something along those lines... But with this years current lack of a budjet, and the fact that the 460 is wounded, I may be dropping a 6.9 in there because A)I have it and it runs great and B)it's better than walking....

The 6.9 would be a bolt in swap for the 86:smokin: And with a little massaging WILL outrun a 1st gen stroke,While remaining NA.

shanelt

01-09-2009, 05:42 PM

18 degree 565 bbc, chevy luv

wyazel1

01-09-2009, 05:59 PM

I just built a new 400 (Ford) for my 78 F150.

.040 bore (410 cid)
TimMeyer pistons (9.5:1)
ARP Bolts
Comp XE262H
Crane Roller Rocker arms
Headman Headers
Weiand 8010 intake
Edel 750 cfm

Its not a BBF but its a fun little motor so far, TONS of torque!!

mightydog

01-09-2009, 07:37 PM

638 c.i. ford

urbanmuddboger

01-09-2009, 07:41 PM

IIRC The only difference between a 429/460 is the crank and location of the pin in the piston, I know for sure The 545 stoker kit fits no problem, no clearancing required. .120 is way too much without sonic testing and would be very rare to accomplish due to core shift in the castings, 0.060 is max before testing.

many blocks can be bored to 4.500"...put in a 4.500" stroke crank and it makes a 572" engine for just under $3K...can ya do that with a stock block Chevy? (Answer: NO. And by the way, the 460 block does NOT need to be clearanced to do this.

i found this here there is some good info on the DOVE blocks and heads as well
http://www.clubhotrod.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-9134.html

IDIeselman

01-09-2009, 08:52 PM

many blocks can be bored to 4.500"...put in a 4.500" stroke crank and it makes a 572" engine for just under $3K...can ya do that with a stock block Chevy? (Answer: NO. And by the way, the 460 block does NOT need to be clearanced to do this.

i found this here there is some good info on the DOVE blocks and heads as well
http://www.clubhotrod.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-9134.html

There are 2 falsehoods in the write up, One being deck heighth, The worst being, Many blocks can be bored to 4.500"...put in a 4.500" stroke crank and it makes a 572". It's VERY VERY rare to find a factory block that will safely bore .140 to make the 4.500 bore. Any factory block should be sonic checked for any bore .060 or over, I have seen block's that could easily go .080 finish bore/4.440 for a 557 stroke, and have also found a very few that won't bore .030. The general builder rule is anything over .060 must be checked. I am in no way Calling you out on this, I would really hate to see someone come on here and read this just to go for it and lose a years savings for a engine build. There is alot of good info on that link :)

mightydog

01-09-2009, 08:57 PM

There are 2 falsehoods in the write up, One being deck heighth, The worst being, Many blocks can be bored to 4.500"...put in a 4.500" stroke crank and it makes a 572". It's VERY VERY rare to find a factory block that will safely bore .140 to make the 4.500 bore. Any factory block should be sonic checked for any bore .060 or over, I have seen block's that could easily go .080 finish bore/4.440 for a 557 stroke, and have also found a very few that won't bore .030. The general builder rule is anything over .060 must be checked. I am in no way Calling you out on this, I would really hate to see someone come on here and read this just to go for it and lose a years savings for a engine build. There is alot of good info on that link :)

on any of stock big block .060 is max 545 combo works perfect 557 runs hot and can be worse if block aint that thick anything bigger than that run motorsport a460 or eliminator products they 3 different blocks all can safely go 4.600 and all blocks will go 4.750 stroke stock /motorsport / asnd eliminator

83kingcab

01-09-2009, 09:12 PM

im runnin a stock 351M with premium gas and about 4 bottles of octaine booster. she runs like a raped ape:flipoff2:

82F100SWB

01-09-2009, 09:17 PM

The 6.9 would be a bolt in swap for the 86:smokin: And with a little massaging WILL outrun a 1st gen stroke,While remaining NA.

I still have my complete former DD/Tow pig kicking around(an identical speced 86...) I'm debating putting the good axles under it, or swapping the engine over... Either way, with the Banks non gated kit I used to have on it(I was pushing 18 psi,) it ran pretty good, would a stock 6.0 a hell of a run until I ran out of RPM, BUT it's IP isn't exactly stock.... LOL While I no longer have the old Banks kit for it, I am thinking maybe it needs parallel twins for shits and giggles...
Only thing that sucks is that while I am not serious about racing, the place where I do race once a year, I think even with the Banks kit on it I would have been stuck in open because it was turboed...

urbanmuddboger

01-09-2009, 10:13 PM

There are 2 falsehoods in the write up, One being deck heighth, The worst being, Many blocks can be bored to 4.500"...put in a 4.500" stroke crank and it makes a 572". It's VERY VERY rare to find a factory block that will safely bore .140 to make the 4.500 bore. Any factory block should be sonic checked for any bore .060 or over, I have seen block's that could easily go .080 finish bore/4.440 for a 557 stroke, and have also found a very few that won't bore .030. The general builder rule is anything over .060 must be checked. I am in no way Calling you out on this, I would really hate to see someone come on here and read this just to go for it and lose a years savings for a engine build. There is alot of good info on that link :)

can you descibe "sonic testing"
i see were you are coming from
i am not an engine builder by no means but i am going to start building one so it looks like i need to be schooled
aslo would you say that going .060 over would be reliable(15 to 20 thousand mile engine life)
or would you go smaller

Broke_as_a_joke

01-10-2009, 11:21 AM

wow pretty good showing of ford big block guys here, Stock 460 for me, maybe 514 one day...

cool_racer

01-10-2009, 05:14 PM

stock ol 460 with a big cam in my junker:flipoff2: and a sbc pushing around 600hp in my s10 blazer

skipped_Link

01-11-2009, 06:12 AM

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/skipped_link/49%20Ford/re10306004.jpg

486 ci ford, A-heads, 12:1, big roller cam, aluminum rods, forged crank, dry sump, Littlefield 14-71 delta plate supercharger, enderle bird catcher, on alky,

Yeah it's mostly stock.

big giant head

01-11-2009, 10:45 AM

Stock 460, see how it works, maybe a mild build in the near future :D

Not to hijack but to everyone running the 460, how many run standard or auto?

mopar redneck

01-11-2009, 11:08 AM

Stock 360. Sit her at 6 grand and she'll work all day.

m1a1abram

01-11-2009, 01:05 PM

509 BBC Eagle rotating assembly, roller cam, rectangular port heads, and a q-jet carb.:D

MBBFord

01-11-2009, 02:35 PM

I have a stock 400 that I want to do a mild build on, even though I know I should get off my lazy ass and build a 460.

Loki89t

01-11-2009, 02:41 PM

Stock 429, wanting something bigger someday.

urbanmuddboger

01-11-2009, 04:54 PM

509 BBC Eagle rotating assembly, roller cam, rectangular port heads, and a q-jet carb.:D

sounded good till the quadra junk:flipoff2:

mudskipper4x4

01-11-2009, 06:29 PM

im runnin a stock 351M with premium gas and about 4 bottles of octaine booster. she runs like a raped ape:flipoff2:

How exactly does a raped ape run? Slow, funny, and bow legged? :D

Just bustin your balls man :flipoff2:

Proeliator

01-11-2009, 06:35 PM

i know that 99% percent will say sbc or bbc

Only the the guys happy with piss ante horsepower :flipoff2:

Mine is in my sig. Dynos at 613hp before the nitrous, and a bit over 800hp with the juice. All in all, a pretty mild bbf stroker motor.

edit: I see most the guys who've responded are running Ford mills. Just shows that pirate members are more intelligent :D

Broke_as_a_joke

01-11-2009, 07:05 PM

Stock 460, see how it works, maybe a mild build in the near future :D

Not to hijack but to everyone running the 460, how many run standard or auto?

auto here, considering 435 swap, even have most of the parts but I drove my buddys auto with a wicked shift kit the other day and now i'm thinking I may go that route...

fordraceboy

01-11-2009, 07:16 PM

Mine is in my sig. Dynos at 613hp before the nitrous, and a bit over 800hp with the juice.

That how much you're getting out of it as of late?:flipoff2:

I see the FE's aren't getting any love around here- 390, 410 is soon to be on the way in..

Proeliator

01-11-2009, 07:24 PM

I see the FE's aren't getting any love around here- 390, 410 is soon to be on the way in..

Uhhh, yea, you let us know how that works if and when you ever get a motor running in your maybe-soon-to-be mud bogger :flipoff2:

Granted, my motor may not be running top notch at the moment, but at least this truck/motor combo has had many years of tasting glory.

And by tasting glory, I mean nasty mud traps. Not tasting glory as in your wifes clambake :D

And my clambake, I mean..................oh, never mind :evil:

fordraceboy

01-11-2009, 07:32 PM

Uhhh, yea, you let us know how that works if and when you ever get a motor running in your maybe-soon-to-be mud bogger :flipoff2:

You bet. I'll need some tech for the new truck soon to be at my house too..:smokin:

And by tasting glory, I mean nasty mud traps. Not tasting glory as in your wifes bewbers :D

And is there anything wrong with the bewbers..:grinpimp:

Proeliator

01-11-2009, 07:37 PM

And is there anything wrong with the bewbers..:grinpimp:

Sorry, you were to slow; I had to change it to clambake. Figured nobody on here other than me has seen the glory that is your womans bewbers so had to put it in more simple terms :smokin:

Let me know if you need some help screwing the motor together and I'll come down. Clam bake optional :D

fordraceboy

01-11-2009, 07:44 PM

Understandable on the Clam bake..:D

Sounds good on the building- I'll call if I actually get a day to do it, prolly more likely in the evenings.

Looks like I'm going to be running a 460 soon as well--- 514?:grinpimp:

skipped_Link

01-11-2009, 08:15 PM

Looks like I'm going to be running a 460 soon as well--- 514?:grinpimp:

Good cause you know why they call them FE motors right,

Finally Extinct :flipoff2:

Damn I love that line.

fordraceboy

01-11-2009, 08:22 PM

Good cause you know why they call them FE motors right,

Finally Extinct :flipoff2:

Damn I love that line.

You sir, are an ass.:flipoff2:

Not getting rid of the FE, I'll just have one of each.

yoterford

01-11-2009, 08:45 PM

when you build a 460 or any big block for that batter with a 500-600 cubic inch kit , can you still run em on pump gas.

skipped_Link

01-11-2009, 08:54 PM

Sure as long as your compression ratio is reasonable.

urbanmuddboger

01-11-2009, 09:31 PM

i think the magic comp. ratio is like 9.5 to 1 for a every day street truck.
now if you dont dive it all the time and you mix your gas 50/50 with some 110octane you can run like 11.5 to 1.
i feel any more than that and you need to run race fuel, 'cause lets face it todays gas sucks .

i was just haveing a conversation about this with my old man. he said he used to get away with 12.5 to 1 on pump gas back in the day, but gas was better then.

IDIeselman

01-12-2009, 05:46 AM

can you descibe "sonic testing"
i see were you are coming from
i am not an engine builder by no means but i am going to start building one so it looks like i need to be schooled
aslo would you say that going .060 over would be reliable(15 to 20 thousand mile engine life)
or would you go smaller

Basicly it's just checking how much material is between the cylinder walls and water jacket, .060 should easily see 15-20000 miles, I would not bore any farther than I had to, If .030 won't clean it up go .040. With all the stroker kits now day's a 514 can be had with the stock 4.360 bore, And go up from there.

Back Woods

01-12-2009, 12:59 PM

22r

Proeliator

01-12-2009, 01:27 PM

Damn I love that line.

:laughing::laughing::laughing:

i think the magic comp. ratio is like 9.5 to 1 for a every day street truck.

Thats about right, and remember that iron heads will experience detonation before an aluminum head; but in any case 9.5:1 should be fine.

Big79'Terry

01-12-2009, 01:53 PM

:laughing::laughing::laughing:

Thats about right, and remember that aluminum heads will experience detonation before an iron head; but in any case 9.5:1 should be fine.
Please forgive my ignorance....But don't aluminum heads also absorb/handle the detonation/higher C.R. better than the iron heads??? I can't afford the aluminum ones anyhow.
Thanks for all the info! My 429 is basically stock rebuilt. Spent a lot of time on the BBF forum trying to figure it out. Buddies Dad has a pair of the good BBF heads that he's not running because of detonation.Can get them cheap. After witnessing the pure joy of trucks like Pro's manglin' the mud....Brings the desire to have one of my own. Thinkin' stroker kit & the good heads...514 seems reasonable. Will need all the help I can get selecting pistons/cam/intake/carb/valvetrain.
BBF MOTOR THREAD?????:eek:

cslimfu

01-12-2009, 02:09 PM

460 bbf, soon to be 557. the kit is way cheap and no clearancing. did you say you were lookin for 5 ton rockwells?

Spectre

01-13-2009, 03:01 PM

I'm just runnin a little 351w. :grinpimp:

1982PrairiePounder

01-13-2009, 04:13 PM

SBC 350, Holley 600, Edelbrock 2101, 204/214 @.050 Blue Racer Cam, 1.5 Roller Lifters, 1 5/8 shortys, pretty mild only about 350HP in a 1982 Toyota pickup. I would build a 454 if it was my choose, cuz I love bowties :D, but either engine is a good choose and have a ton of power potention.

jenks21

01-13-2009, 08:27 PM

468 bbc, rectangle heads, scat 4340, eagle h beams, weisco's at 12.5:1, roller cam, team g, and 1050 dominator.

later
jenks

Jrod-13

01-13-2009, 09:04 PM

The 6.9 would be a bolt in swap for the 86:smokin: And with a little massaging WILL outrun a 1st gen stroke,While remaining NA.

I'm a IDI man myself.... but come on....

IDIeselman

01-14-2009, 04:22 AM

I'm a IDI man myself.... but come on....

Let's get :smokin: Enjoy! http://www.thedieselgarage.com/TOTM/apr07.htm

The pull off, Turn up the volume. http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w103/Dsl_Dog_Catcher/?action=view&current=IDIeselman.flv

I have experience to back up my statements, There is alot of unfound (by most people) power in the good ole IDI's.:flipoff2:

TLittle

01-14-2009, 10:02 AM

Full roller Dart 582:D

JR650

01-14-2009, 02:44 PM

I run a .020 over 460 with a decent cam and a pretty major port job, stealth intake, 800 edeljunk carb in the truck. 429 PI build in progress for the jeep, yes it has the d2oe-ab heads, will be a flat top 521 when done, roller cammed with a stealth intake and fuel injection. Also have a full roller a-460 headed 521 with an 1100 pro systems dominator on the stand may make its way into the truck, depends on funds for building the truck for the power. fords can run a fair bit more compression than a similar chevy because of the small closed chambers, they burn alot better than trying to light the whole bore off.

mustange70

01-15-2009, 11:38 AM

Proeliator

01-15-2009, 05:55 PM

Please forgive my ignorance....But don't aluminum heads also absorb/handle the detonation/higher C.R. better than the iron heads??? I can't afford the aluminum ones anyhow.

Yes, aluminum handles the abuse of detonation better than iron. Due to the thermal qualities of iron versus aluminum; you'll actually see more horsepower out of an iron head versus an aluminum, assuming that all other factors of the head and mill are identical. Now, aluminum heads are all the rage for many reasons, partially for weight but primarily because most of them have next-gen computer designs created just for performance applications with the larger valves out of the box....and they are better able to be set up to handle the flow demanded of truly big engines. The irons can flow pretty good, but they are limited by comparison to most of the aluminum heads without hitting the water jackets.

However, depending on what you are building you can get great results from iron heads if they are ported and set up properly. For example, people are always surprised I am still running iron heads on SuperBeast. But, I'm using Dove heads that were ported and set up with the cobrajet oversized valves by Scott Johnston, the same guy that helped design the new shiznit P51 heads with Kaase. Anything much bigger than my mill and you pretty much have to run aluminum, just because they can be hogged out to handle the flow that you need. But for anything up to that iron can be used provided that its set up properly, and as I've already explained; iron has its advantages.

mustange70

01-15-2009, 08:49 PM

most i've seen out of an iron head bbf with a set of dove heads is around the 700-750 mark, granted he is running 12:1 cr.

82F100SWB

01-15-2009, 11:26 PM

I have experience to back up my statements, There is alot of unfound (by most people) power in the good ole IDI's.:flipoff2:

I'm more than willing to back him up on this, anyone who thinks an IDI can't run with a Stroker just hasn't seen one pushed past what the general population think is the safe limit. Even without the turbo on it now, mine would probably still run with a stock 7.3... I don't want to think of the EGT's though.

As for the BBF stuff, I think the reasoning behind aluminum heads gaining popularity in leaps and bounds is quite simply price. For the price of a set of used small chamber heads, re-building them, and having them ported, you can buy yourself a nice shiny new set of aluminums.
In my case, I'm probably going to go that way.

Train Horn

01-17-2009, 06:15 PM

1 of our trucks "THE PUP " 1987 samuari

Chevy 358
750 cfm carb
steel old fuely heads ported & polished
pull headers
13.5 -1 compression
luntti crank
fordged pistons
hydrolic cam
500hp

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/TRAINHORN69/BITHLOMOTORMUDDIGRAS028.jpg

mudtrux

01-18-2009, 12:58 AM

I'll step up an represent along with 1982PrairiePounder and Train Horn.
I'm runnin a donated 350 from a '87 vette converted to carb with light springs in the dist.

Pretty snappy piece with 5:13's and 44's

cowboyup21

01-18-2009, 04:45 AM

All stock 460/4-speed combo here....would like to do a mild build when I get the money.

wyazel1

01-18-2009, 07:00 AM

running a mostly stock 400 ford :):

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/504225/fullsize/dscf0849.jpg
(just a mock up picture to measue for clearences)

Starting from the bottom, fully balance rotating assembly, flat top pistons, comp cams 275 deh, roller rockers fully race ported 4v quench heads for a cr of about 11:1, roush b351 intake ported to match the heads, price intake spacers, recurved HEI dizzy, and a barry grant 750 demon carb, good for at least 450hp and a 7000rpm redline.

Glad to see someone else running the good ol 400. My build is a lot milder than yours, I'm running a balanced/ARP bottom end, 9.5-1 with 2v heads with stainless valves hardened pushrods and roller rockers. My cam is just the comp XE262H but so far this is a very fun motor, pretty good bang for the buck. I'd love to build one like yours (someday) with 4v heads but with the 434 stroker kit:smokin:

Jrod-13

01-18-2009, 04:34 PM

I'm more than willing to back him up on this, anyone who thinks an IDI can't run with a Stroker just hasn't seen one pushed past what the general population think is the safe limit. Even without the turbo on it now, mine would probably still run with a stock 7.3... I don't want to think of the EGT's though.

I know what they will do, mine ran good NA with the work I had done to it... and turboed it runs even better, pulls hills faster than my buddies 12V.. But the stroker at work will still out pull it.

On the topic of heads.. I've seen 780Hp out of D0VE's... I've also heard that the D3VE has more potential, with enough work..

Around these parts, the BBF is king... the only people that run chevys, start off spending 3X as much as the BBF guys, on a big inch SBC, only to have to start over with a BBC, only to find they still rarely can compete..

Proeliator

01-18-2009, 06:04 PM

most i've seen out of an iron head bbf with a set of dove heads is around the 700-750 mark, granted he is running 12:1 cr.

I'd say that sounds about right. Iron heads can be great depending on the application; but they've definitely have a power ceiling.

Around these parts, the BBF is king...

All Ford vs. Chevy bullshit aside; thats generally the way it goes. I've got just over 600hp naturally aspirated before the nitrous, and mine is a pretty damn mild bbf stroker build. You can just get sooo much more out of the bbf's with ease over the bbc...

jenks21

01-19-2009, 02:29 PM

Just read the engine masters mag and a guy there banged out 760 on bbc 496 iron ovals 049's and around 11:1.

later
jenks

Proeliator

01-19-2009, 04:01 PM

Just read the engine masters mag and a guy there banged out 760 on bbc 496 iron ovals 049's and around 11:1.

Oh, I'm sure he did, but thats chump change when it comes to big block territory. I call my motor "mild" for a reason. Helping a friend build his BBF and it will be around 1200hp before the juice. On pump gas (albeit premium). Even thats not really that hairy considering what you can do with 460s.

bwhirry

01-19-2009, 05:31 PM

skipped_Link

01-19-2009, 06:34 PM

anyone notice how few head bolts the 460 has compared to the 454? Big nasty mud motor over 9.5:1 with any kind of nos or blower is going have head trouble, arp or not. 14:1 for the full meal deal, forget it unless its a chev. Just my 2cents. Ford guy i used to know couldn't keep his heads from warping. Finally turned chev.

My 10 head bolts hold on to 12:1, a 14-71 driven 25% over & 36* of timing just fine, If thats not enough, the new motorsport block & heads are 18 bolt,

If BBC is the full meal deal, a BBF is a night at the Outback :flipoff2:

Proeliator

01-19-2009, 07:19 PM

anyone notice how few head bolts the 460 has compared to the 454? Big nasty mud motor over 9.5:1 with any kind of nos or blower is going have head trouble, arp or not. 14:1 for the full meal deal, forget it unless its a chev. Just my 2cents.

No offense, but your 2 cents is worth a piss in the wind :laughing:

I mean seriously, you are talking straight out your ass :shaking:

85_Bronco

01-19-2009, 07:34 PM

408W, 11to1 cr, .560 lift cam, victor jr intake, custom pro systems carb, 50-250 nos kit. best guess, 525hp, 700hp on spray. daily driver 18mpg:flipoff2:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/663671/fullsize/picture-039.jpghttp://www.supermotors.net/getfile/671112/fullsize/dscn0394.jpg

01-19-2009, 07:39 PM

anyone notice how few head bolts the 460 has compared to the 454? Big nasty mud motor over 9.5:1 with any kind of nos or blower is going have head trouble, arp or not. 14:1 for the full meal deal, forget it unless its a chev. Just my 2cents. Ford guy i used to know couldn't keep his heads from warping. Finally turned chev.

ever look at what the head bolts on a chevy are threaded into? the deck, which is paper thin.
now go look at what the 4 head bolts thread into on the ford
the 4 that surround the ford are better then the 5 on the chev that thread into 1/2" metal deck

now go look at the new ford small block copy that chev calls an LS, 4 head bolts surround the cylinder, ford layout ports on both intake and exhaust
seems the missing head bolts arent so bad after all

Proeliator

01-19-2009, 08:00 PM

........

Its really depressing, I haven't been able to disagree with you in years :flipoff2:

Big79'Terry

01-19-2009, 08:16 PM

Pro...Thanks for the tutorial. The good heads that I'm referring to originaly came w/the 429 in the 64'2x2F2 you saw @ Grants. For what I want/can afford I'm hoping you & some other knowledgable BBF gurus will lend your experience to a neophyte.

Proeliator

01-19-2009, 08:37 PM

Gotcha, Terry. My best advice is to go to this site: http://www.reincarnation-automotive.com/ pay your twenty bucks for a life time subscription to the tech section, and have at it. Scott is pretty much the king of performance iron heads, and has awesome pic by pic tutorials on how to squeeze the most out of your heads. I've met the guy in person, he is actually the one that worked the wizardry on the heads I'm currently running. He's also the same guy that helped Kaase develop the new end-all for aluminum P-51 heads. I can't recommend him or the value of his site enough.

82F100SWB

01-19-2009, 08:41 PM

Here's a nice little not too wild, streetable 588" unit... sure it's aftermarket block, but, it's still a streetable engine.
http://460ford.com/viewtopic.php?t=24296&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=180
That's the newest evolution of heads from Kasse, supposed to be a 100HP gain over P-51's

When it comes to racing, the fastest guy around here is running a BBF, and it's a nice little iron headed monster... Is sporting D00E-R's....
His new chassis last summer:
http://www.bigblocksix.com/f100swb/atikokan%2008/MVI_7989.avi

Same engine, previous chassis, with full exhaust no less:
http://www.bigblocksix.com/f100swb/f250/July07/Pictures021.avi

What's making all the noise:
http://www.bigblocksix.com/f100swb/f250/July07/pics/Pictures%20014.jpg
I have no details on the internals other than it's 12.5:1.

That track is 250', as you can see, pretty deep at the far end(actually had a few guys on 44's get stuck this year) and pretty rough. He still managed to run a 6 flat with the new chassis this year

chevyguy15

01-30-2009, 01:35 AM

bb chevy 427
forged pistons 10.8 compression
manley rods
steel crank
doug herbert roller cam/roller lifters
291 rect. heads
built by dg motorsports

dnyoed at 576hp at 6100 517 lbs at 4800

Brent Foster

01-30-2009, 08:20 AM

572 BBC Mines for sale if anyones interested

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=754563&highlight=racing+engine

daryl

01-30-2009, 10:38 AM

258ci I6 :)

unimog

01-30-2009, 01:27 PM

I'm running a stock OM [oil motor] 352 Mercedes Benz diesel in line 6 in my 406 Mercedes Unimog 345 cubic inch, pump turned up to 3300 RPM. About a 110HP with 267 Ft.lbs. of torque. These are continuous duty engines designed to start up and run a WOT [2800RPM] for there whole life, like in a commercial fishing boat, pump etc. The thing just pulls like crazy, you can't stall it. Turns my 49" tires like nothing. It's my first diesel and I love it. No ignition, no wires or anything. It just needs fuel and air and it will run. Of course it needs a starter to get it going. In the mud it just turns my 49" 14X20 Michelin tires and never slows down. Here's a link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_OM352_engine .

rockhog

02-01-2009, 09:54 AM

454 bbc...4 bolt
9 to 1
Fulley ported 063's...2.19/1.88's
Performer RPM intake
Comp 280H....280/280...230/230...520/520...110
Built 800cfm q-jet
1.7 roller rockers

Farmer2

02-01-2009, 08:06 PM

LDT 465 -D multi-fuel turbo in my bobbed deuce and a 5.4 in my F-250

LegendKiller89

02-02-2009, 06:28 PM

5.9l 360

jeepcj

02-10-2009, 04:41 PM

427 chevy tall deck out of a 81 C60 stock rebuild

mudevil

02-10-2009, 07:00 PM

SBC with Brodix heads.

recoiljunky

02-11-2009, 05:41 PM

398 Stroker (351W), Edel RPM heads and RPM intake, roller rockers, custom over the frame headers, Holley 670 TA, KB pistons, Scat crank, 10 to 1 compression, Duraspark dizzy and ignition module, Explorer front dress.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w229/recoiljunky/DSC01803.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w229/recoiljunky/DSC01935.jpg

BubbaZ71Tahoe

02-11-2009, 07:32 PM

stock vortec 350...

want to put a cam and port polish the heads with new lifters and springs and valves with a mild bore

zukibrothers

02-14-2009, 04:38 PM

4.0 ford v6.

74 MONSTER

02-14-2009, 05:37 PM

350
11 to 1
edel heads
rpm air gap
shorty headers
roller rockers
dual 425 impcos on a single 850 proform base
comp hyd cam in the 27-something range

Halogrinder

02-15-2009, 10:30 AM

351M turned into a 409. 351/479 all under 4300 RPM.

it was a budget builder that turned out to be a rockin motor. all torque!
when i sprayed it it came ALIVE! :evil:

mustange70

02-15-2009, 06:02 PM

halogrinder, what are you running for pistons? just curious as i'm toying with the idea of spray for mine (like a 100-150hp shot)

Halogrinder

02-15-2009, 06:06 PM

just stock 400 pistons. a 150 wet shot wont hurt anything. i pulled 3 degrees out of timing when spraying (delay box) when i was doing it and it worked fuggin bitchen.
my machinist and i estimated on the spray 500hp/650ft/tq. it LOVED to be grunted.

arm switch=>wide open throttle switch => fuel pressure hobbs switch=> RPM activated window switch (2500-4000)=> retard box=> fuel/nitrous solinoids all ontop of a 6AL with a 4500 RPM rev limiter.

if ALL conditions arnt met, its not spraying. if i broke a shaft/whatever it turns off. it worked FLAWLESS. i only sprayed for like 3 events and took it off. some punk ass fucking kid talked the talk about buying it, i took a day off of work to get it ready for him and he fucking shows up with 1500 bucks :mad3: what a fucking idiot (well me too for believing a kid :rolleyes:)

mustange70

02-15-2009, 07:50 PM

yeah i'm thinking 150, and a very well hidden 150 system :) thanks, i'm just running hyper's, but flirtin with 11.5:1 compression, so it should do me well if i ever do it, you still have your system? (by chance willing to part with it :))

Halogrinder

02-16-2009, 04:24 AM

MAYBE depending on the price.......

im running the stockers, and my compression is 8.5:1 with the "oh noes your going to have detonation" heads :rolleyes: :laughing:

Blown74Ford

02-18-2009, 11:54 AM

'69 block,.030 over 460,Arias pistons,main girdle ,comp cams solid,'68 ported polished heads,stainless valves, cobra jet size,Harland sharp 1.73 ,Pro-line stud girdle,modified by Dyers..cobra jet tunnel ram converted for supercharger,Dyers 6-71, (2) Predators,custom upright collectors... not my daily driver anymore...but what a kick in the pant s to drive!!

wyazel1

02-18-2009, 07:55 PM

dnchevyman

02-18-2009, 10:01 PM

383 roller motor, all the goodies. aluminum heads, rev kit, lots of money involved, custom ground cam, single plane intake... etc etc etc and etc

550 hp and 540 tq

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p175/dnchevyman/Blazer009.jpg

VIDEO

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p175/dnchevyman/th_383inBlazerandstart035.jpg (http://s128.photobucket.com/albums/p175/dnchevyman/?action=view&current=383inBlazerandstart035.flv)

old ugly 54 chevy

02-18-2009, 10:58 PM

post up some videos/pics!!Here is a short video of his truck from last summer.
YouTube - Oroville Mud Bog, Sept 7 2008 FIRST PLACE AGAIN! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLqvIT0-CEo&feature=related)

IDIeselman

02-19-2009, 04:33 AM

Nice vid but, Where's the mud? :laughing:The vid says 750 HP

Proeliator

02-19-2009, 12:14 PM

Please forgive my ignorance....But don't aluminum heads also absorb/handle the detonation/higher C.R. better than the iron heads??? I can't afford the aluminum ones anyhow.

Yea, I looked back up at what I typed and realize I explained that backwards :shaking:

With two sets of heads, one set aluminum and one set iron; assuming that both sets are identical in all other ways, you'll actually see more horsepower from the iron set due to the thermal properties of iron vs. aluminum. However, due to those same thermal properties aluminum heads resist detonation better than iron and therefore can handle slightly higher compression numbers....higher compression equaling more horsepower off course.

Hopefully that explains that better.

Blown74Ford

02-19-2009, 12:59 PM

Nice vid but, Where's the mud? :laughing:The vid says 750 HP

I didn't design pit:( watch some of the other videos of that event,or better yet last April 's event... didn't you see the end of the video my wife ,camera, and the rest of the crowd was wearing the mud:laughing:YouTube - Oroville Mud Bogs, Sept 6-7, 2008 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNLag3lPpqI) ( one of the other competitors)

Proeliator

02-19-2009, 02:04 PM

We've never had it on a Dyno, but we think it's about 750 or somewhere there

Now, is she talking about your blue truck with the blower? Because, if so, no offense man, but I've seen your truck in action up in St. Helens, and it was very clear to everybody there that it was putting out far less than even what mine is at, which is just over 600hp. You might want to get that dynoed.

edit: if its a different truck, its all good, but to be honest its always better to have hard data instead of guesses to back up hp claims ;)

Halogrinder

02-19-2009, 02:09 PM

No offense man, but I've seen your truck in action up in St. Helens, and it was very clear to everybody there that it was putting out far less than even what mine is at, which is just over 600hp. You might want to get that dynoed.

bingo. bingo. bingo.

750 hp is nothing to fuck with. 600 HP is nothing to fuck with.

saying you have that type of horsepower is something to fuck with :laughing:

dyno it. its the only way to know. i know my engine makes what i say it does, does yours?

i SEE that type of HP on the dyno @ the machine shop i play with often and sometimes work with/for. its NOT cheap, and it is NOT easy to make that power without some serious fucking with.

Proeliator

02-19-2009, 02:13 PM

=i SEE that type of HP on the dyno @ the machine shop i play with often and sometimes work with/for. its NOT cheap, and it is NOT easy to make that power without some serious fucking with.

Troof. In reality, 600-800hp is actually fairly easy to get out of a stroked 460 build up if you know what you're doing and are willing to drop some cash*.......but WAY to many people just add up the hp gains printed on the side of the boxs their bolt-ons come in and throw a wild hp number into the mix.

* Seriously, people who've seen my truck in action or ride in it look at me like I'm crazy when I say that I consider my motor to be a "mild stroker". But its true. The 575 I'll be helping my friend (Ivanribic on here) screw together will be making just about 1000hp on pump gas, naturally aspirated. @1200 with the NO2. Now THATS respectable :D

trent jackson

02-19-2009, 02:21 PM

A 1000 hp on pump gas.... I call bullshit...

Proeliator

02-19-2009, 02:23 PM

A 1000 hp on pump gas.... I call bullshit...

Then you don't know shit about BBF stroker motors. His, in particular, is a 575. My next stroker will be a 605 just so I can razz everybody with less than a 600 cid mill :p Look in the pages of Hot Rod magazine, they've published shit tons of engine builds making allot more than a 1000 hp on pump gas.

edit: I WILL be having him dyno his motor, however, just to prove the nay-sayers wrong ;)

TEX

02-19-2009, 03:05 PM

What precisely would be the point of 1,000HP on pump gas? That engine would be way too wild for anything but racing, so why not squeeze it 15:1 and get a bit more ooompff out of it?

Blown74Ford

02-19-2009, 03:05 PM

Now, is she talking about your blue truck with the blower? Because, if so, no offense man, but I've seen your truck in action up in St. Helens, and it was very clear to everybody there that it was putting out far less than even what mine is at, which is just over 600hp. You might want to get that dynoed.

Well Proeliator ...I guess the end of the month I'll have you prove to me your truck has more horspower than mine:rolleyes:oh and don't forget ....you said that was with out your bottle, bottles are for babies any way:laughing:

Proeliator

02-19-2009, 03:51 PM

What precisely would be the point of 1,000HP on pump gas? That engine would be way too wild for anything but racing, so why not squeeze it 15:1 and get a bit more ooompff out of it?

Well, I can't argue with that reasoning, to be honest. My next motor won't run on anything near pump gas. But, it was a condition of his, and it was his money, so what the hell :D

Well Proeliator ...I guess the end of the month I'll have you prove to me your truck has more horspower than mine:rolleyes:

If we both make it up the event at St. Helens at the end of the month, I formally challenge you to a pull off. We'll hook a line between our two trucks, I'm sure we'll get it video taped, and see who wins the tug o' war. I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is ;)

I can't promise I won't be on the bottle. I mean, hell, you're supercharged after all. If your truck really runs that much horsepower it shouldn't matter anyways, right? :flipoff2:

edit: A challenge like this can only be good for the event :smokin:

Big79'Terry

02-19-2009, 05:06 PM

This kind of playful exuberance can only be good for the event & our sport!!:eek: Please lets all try to keep it in the realm of GOOD SPORTSMANSHIP:D.
The StHelens-MudRun has become a family freindly event & we have worked extremely hard to change the culture.:eek:
Lets Get Ready to RUMBLE!!!!!............To the sound of BBF's screamin' & big ass tires FLINGIN' THE GOO.

Proeliator

02-19-2009, 05:14 PM

No worries, Terry :D

I figure its just a good natured challenge. We hook up and do a drag off, have it taped, and post the results/vid here. Its called put up or shut up ;)

Honestly, I wouldn't care one way or another, but I remember allot of people being disapointed in the big blue blown Fords performance. Still, I wouldn't care even then except his wife has slummed tons of other peoples Ford youtube videos with comments like "Yea, that truck is okay but THIS one -with a link to a vid of her husbands blue ford_-stomps ass all over that truck".

I figure a little friendly competition is all good :evil:

old ugly 54 chevy

02-19-2009, 05:26 PM

If we both make it up the event at St. Helens at the end of the month, I formally challenge you to a pull off. We'll hook a line between our two trucks, I'm sure we'll get it video taped, and see who wins the tug o' war. I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is ;)

I can't promise I won't be on the bottle. I mean, hell, you're supercharged after all. If your truck really runs that much horsepower it shouldn't matter anyways, right? :flipoff2:

edit: A challenge like this can only be good for the event :smokin:[/QUOTE]
You keep talking that your motor is "billy badass" without nitrous, well lets see?

It's a mud run, not a truck pull....Why not see who makes it farther in the pit? After all that's what mud trucks are for right?

As for the last time we (My brother) were up at st. helens he never ran the truck past part throttle, you don't honestly think he had to work to get thru the pit did you?

How about this....Since it's you home turf and all, You can decide who tries the tank trap first, then whoever makes it the farthest or fastest thru it will be the one known with the "badass ford"

Proeliator

02-19-2009, 05:31 PM

You keep talking that your motor is "billy badass" without nitrous, well lets see?

It's a mud run, not a truck pull....Why not see who makes it farther in the pit? After all that's what mud trucks are for right?

As for the last time we (My brother) were up at st. helens he never ran the truck past part throttle, you don't honestly think he had to work to get thru the pit did you?

How about this....Since it's you home turf and all, You can decide who tries the tank trap first, then whoever makes it the farthest or fastest thru it will be the one known with the "badass ford"

Uh, I keep saying that my motor is an unimpressive mild stroker build, so if you think its billy badass then thats your opinion. Even if it IS correct :laughing:

As far as the last time he was at St. Helens, he didn't too much wheeling at all until he broke God knows what and had to be hauled out by the cat. All I can say is that the spectators weren't impressed by what they saw, myself included. In fact, for awhile there was a vid of him up where you could hear the spectators talking about what an idiot he was, how much he ran his mouth, etc. until it was finally pulled down. Now, I don't know him from Adam, and maybe he's a great guy; like I said I'm just all for a friendly challenge ;)

Now, I'm not sure why you/he wouldn't be willing to hook up and do a pull off (acutally, I DO know why :flipoff2:), but I'm fine to see who can go farthest in the tank trap, as well. Guess we'll just have to see at the end of the month :smokin:

As far as who holds the title of "bad ass Ford", well, the youtube viewers have already decided that. I have what, well over 300,000 views on that vid (which I never put up nor do I know who did) while your brother has a mere 20,000? Hell, even the second vid in that category by a long shot is of my truck (again, not a vid I put up). Look, I really don't care about any of that, but like I already mentioned; his wife shouldn't be slumming in every other 4x4 ford vid running her mouth trying to pimp her husbands truck. It just makes her/him look bad.

trent jackson

02-19-2009, 05:41 PM

A 1000 hp on pump gas.... I call bullshit...

you aint guy to lie to have friends

Blown_74_Ford_Wifey

02-19-2009, 05:51 PM

Proeliator

02-19-2009, 05:56 PM

Have I??? Bring a link in where I've said that... Will ya??

Hell, you've said that in one of the vids posted of my truck! Folks can youtube " bad ass ford" and sift through the comments and they'll find it...assuming you are "prostmoparwife74".
When the comments were made on my vid I looked at some other Ford 4x4 vids and saw the exact same modus operandi....then talked to some other Ford guys and heard the exact same thing. The internet has become a funny thing, word travels fast ;) Look, don't get butthurt about it, the comments have been made, I've thrown the gauntlet down, and now the proof is to be had :smokin:

Blown_74_Ford_Wifey

02-19-2009, 06:38 PM

Hell, you've said that in one of the vids posted of my truck! Folks can youtube " bad ass ford" and sift through the comments and they'll find it...assuming you are "prostmoparwife74".
When the comments were made on my vid I looked at some other Ford 4x4 vids and saw the exact same modus operandi....then talked to some other Ford guys and heard the exact same thing. The internet has become a funny thing, word travels fast ;) Look, don't get butthurt about it, the comments have been made, I've thrown the gauntlet down, and now the proof is to be had :smokin:

I believe what I asked from you is to post a link to where I've talked bad about ANYONE'S truck, because I haven't. And as for posting vids of my husbands truck... OF COURSE I do, I'm very proud of him. You stated that he talks a lot of shit, you have your facts wrong. He happens to be a VERY nice guy and doesn't talk shit... either online or in real life. But you're right.. we'll wait for the proof. Any chance of you coming to Oroville, CA the end of April or maybe September??? We'll be there too.... Money to be had there if you have what it takes....

Oh, and one last thing... why bring me into this? Maybe when we come up, you can tell me what's on your mind in person, instead of the internet.:smokin:

Proeliator

02-19-2009, 07:00 PM

I believe what I asked from you is to post a link to where I've talked bad about ANYONE'S truck, because I haven't. And as for posting vids of my husbands truck... OF COURSE I do, I'm very proud of him. You stated that he talks a lot of shit, you have your facts wrong. He happens to be a VERY nice guy and doesn't talk shit... either online or in real life. But you're right.. we'll wait for the proof. Any chance of you coming to Oroville, CA the end of April or maybe September??? We'll be there too.... Money to be had there if you have what it takes....

Oh, and one last thing... why bring me into this? Maybe when we come up, you can tell me what's on your mind in person, instead of the internet.:smokin:

I sense a LOT of backpeddling :laughing:

I don't need to post links for your convenience , I already said where you could find those comments. Or, post over at NWUonline where all the people who saw the comments online or heard the comments in person are. They'll give you the straight scoop.

Look, I never said your old man was a douchebag. I only reported what was commented on by spectators and how your own comments in other peoples videos makes you look bad.

And no, why the fuck would I go down to whereverthehell California you mentioned? It has already been put forth that you'll be up to the St. Helens event at the end of this month and that is where the challenge has been offered.

Bring it or zip it.

Blown_74_Ford_Wifey

02-19-2009, 07:05 PM

LMAO!!!! No backpeddaling here.... When you find a link showing I was talking shit, post it... you wont find one. As for the spectators saying things on that video... if you read what the person operating the camera wrote on his youtube page, he states he was NOT talking about my husband...

Gotta love the internet...

Halogrinder

02-19-2009, 07:07 PM

yes we do. post video ASAP :evil:

i wanna see whos gonna walk the walk :smokin:

fawk it ill hook up to either one of you.......

as soon as both of you complete the 20 mile street drive, you know being street legal and all :flipoff2:

mustange70

02-19-2009, 07:55 PM

Man its theone thing i hate about being up in the great white north, its always too damn cold during this time of the year to be able to play in the mud, fawking sucks cause comps and challenges like this are to good to pass up, and to bad its such a fawking long drive out there, or i'd come and play too.

Blown_74_Ford_Wifey

02-19-2009, 08:24 PM

Yeah no shit... another weekend of freezing cold... but it'll be good competition! Too bad you live so far away.

Proeliator

02-19-2009, 08:53 PM

See you on the 28th. I'll bring the strap for the tow off :)

ivanribic

02-19-2009, 10:53 PM

as soon as both of you complete the 20 mile street drive, you know being street legal and all :flipoff2:
Proeliator's truck IS street legal and so far as I know has yet to be trailered to (or from) any events. We've made 2 hour trips with a decent amount of freeway driving in his pavement pounder. :grinpimp:

If this is the same blue Ford I saw 2 years ago that made one loop around the field on the New Years run and then had to be hauled out on a trailer with drive shafts hanging, I have a hard time believing it's 750hp. But hey, I've been wrong before. Like the time I said that fordraceboy's mom would never give up the pooper for me and then she totally did.

Btw Seth, I'm building a 557, not a 575 you lysdexic drunkard.

dnchevyman

02-20-2009, 06:13 AM

ill get in on this argumentation. youve got a big block with a blower pissing out a self exclaimed 750?? i have a little n/a small block on pump gas with 550 hp. open the bottle to equal your blower, and im over 800... bakow!!!

pig blocks, all that extra wasted weight. good boat anchors though!:flipoff2:

Halogrinder

02-20-2009, 06:39 AM

Big79'Terry

02-20-2009, 06:45 AM

Ivan....Ya' comin' thru for this epic event???????:flipoff2:

ivanribic

02-20-2009, 07:42 AM

Screw you Terry. Every time I play in St Helens it winds up costing me big bucks. :flipoff2: Seth tells me that you guys have a kick ass setup down there this year. If I had my junk back together right now I'd come break it all over again.

Proeliator

02-20-2009, 08:19 AM

If I had my junk back together right now I'd come break it all over again.

Its just a matter of time :flipoff2:

Also, just because the confusion is making me head hurt, prostmoparwife74 are the wife of THIS guy: YouTube - Oroville Mud Bog, Sept 7 2008 FIRST PLACE AGAIN! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLqvIT0-CEo&feature=related) (which is bad ass by the way :smokin:) or the wife of the big blue blown Ford? Or is that devynrae? Because thats what we're referencing. Ultimately, its no big deal, just curious. A little internet badgering always raises interest in events. I'm sure Terry doesn't mind :D

rockdawg97124

02-20-2009, 08:27 AM

Thanks for all the fun reading! It looks like it will be a fun event. Maybe the "tug of war" could be a part St.Helens fun days?

If I had my old Sub I would be talking smack as well. But with a little light jeep. I would be pulled all around the place :grinpimp:

Blown_74_Ford_Wifey

02-20-2009, 08:49 AM

Its just a matter of time :flipoff2:

Also, just because the confusion is making me head hurt, prostmoparwife74 are the wife of THIS guy: YouTube - Oroville Mud Bog, Sept 7 2008 FIRST PLACE AGAIN! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLqvIT0-CEo&feature=related) (which is bad ass by the way :smokin:) or the wife of the big blue blown Ford? Or is that devynrae? Because thats what we're referencing. Ultimately, its no big deal, just curious. A little internet badgering always raises interest in events. I'm sure Terry doesn't mind :D

Yes, that is me. And that's the "big blue ford" too! Dan doesn't consider it to be "bad ass" as you say, but thanks for the compliment.:smokin: That year it had to be hauled off was when I broke a knuckle in the front end and pretzeled the rear drive line:eek: (needless to say I'm not aloud to drive it anymore :laughing:) What you see in the video is what he's done to it since then, completely rebuilt... (much stronger parts in it now, lots of upgrades) As far as Devynrae goes, he's a friend of ours... no relation. Now I understand why you're confused.... I didn't realize you were unaware of the truck being rebuilt! Can't wait to come play with you guys!:D

Blown_74_Ford_Wifey

02-20-2009, 09:44 AM

LOL I should have put this pic in on my last comment... this is the damage I caused... guys, don't let your girls drive your trucks!! LMMFAO

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8035/canyousaytwistedrc9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/canyousaytwistedrc9.jpg/1/w320.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img4/canyousaytwistedrc9.jpg/1/)

ivanribic

02-20-2009, 10:25 AM

LOL I should have put this pic in on my last comment... this is the damage I caused... guys, don't let your girls drive your trucks!! LMMFAO
Uh, yeah . . . keep your hands off my shaft sugar lips.

:grinpimp:

Big79'Terry

02-20-2009, 10:25 AM

Pro & Wifey...Thanks for communicating with a purpose. I was getting nervous. Yes...I agree their truck looks :eek:badass to me.
Rockdawg....Is that you Kevin??? You know Marci will accept no excuses for a "conspicuous absence" on you & your better halfs behalf. Bring yer' jeep out & show them how to have fun w/out 44's & 500HP. Steer clear of the trap. You should own the trails on the track.
On another note.....Northwest Metal Fab & Pipe is sponsoring this event w/D-6 LGP DOZER. Thanks Dennis!!! D-6 is being delivered this saturday. Talk around the campfire is: push all the "peanut butter" consistency mud out of tanktrap. We could end up with a return of the glory days of the trap being a 20 ft. deep canyon & semi-passable. Thats how much dirt we pushed into it in May:eek:.
Tug o WAR sounds cool in the MUD:smokin: Two behemoths hooked up & FLINGIN' THE GOO to the sweet sweet sound of dual BBF's a-screaming!! Scratching & clawing for traction......who will "tap-out" first?:shaking:
Terry & Grant
The all volunteer staff
www.sthelens-mudrun.com

IcallhimGeorge

02-20-2009, 10:31 AM

To all you dumbasses building BBF strokers.....

didnt you know Chevy 350s is where its at? :flipoff2:

Ill believe the black and white Ford has 750hp LOOOOONG before Ill believe the blue Ford with the supercharger does. The vid I saw was less impressive than my first 460 and it was around 500hp.

Too bad Im 3000 miles away and my engine wont be finished until the middle of March. :flipoff2:

Blown_74_Ford_Wifey

02-20-2009, 10:39 AM

Uh, yeah . . . keep your hands off my shaft sugar lips.

:grinpimp:

LMAO no worries dear... my hands only wrap around one shaft (hee hee:D)

Pro & Wifey...Thanks for communicating with a purpose. I was getting nervous. Yes...I agree their truck looks :eek:badass to me.www.sthelens-mudrun.com

No problems... It sounds to me like there has been quite a bit of misunderstanding going on. Dan (and I) do this for fun, not to start fights or join in any pissing contests. :evil::p

Blown_74_Ford_Wifey

02-20-2009, 10:45 AM

Ill believe the black and white Ford has 750hp LOOOOONG before Ill believe the blue Ford with the supercharger does. The vid I saw was less impressive than my first 460 and it was around 500hp.

The black and white ford is the very same truck as the blue ford, just rebuilt...:cool:

Proeliator

02-20-2009, 10:48 AM

Now I understand why you're confused.... I didn't realize you were unaware of the truck being rebuilt! Can't wait to come play with you guys!:D

The black and white one is the old all-blue one rebuilt!? That explains alot, and to be honest, judging from the newer vid you guys did something right in the rebuild. It looks like it totally brings it. Defintely bad ass :mr-t:

Terry was talking about making the tank trap semi-possible-to-maybe-make-through for the bigger trucks, so we might get a run in that yet :smokin:

No problems... It sounds to me like there has been quite a bit of misunderstanding going on. Dan (and I) do this for fun, not to start fights or join in any pissing contests. :evil::p

Yup. And to be fair, it was Devynrae who had making the comments on the vids, not the wife, although I'd thought they were the same person. This internet drama is too confusing!!! :D

Enough excitement drummed up for the event yet, Terry? You're welcome :laughing:

old ugly 54 chevy

02-20-2009, 10:55 AM

Terry was talking about making the tank trap semi-possible-to-maybe-make-through for the bigger trucks, so we might get a run in that yet :smokin:[/QUOTE]

Thats been the claim to fame for the the past two months, Why change it now? :evil: why not leave the trap as it is and make another pit onsite for making it thru? It is 40 acres and all:flipoff2:

Proeliator

02-20-2009, 11:01 AM

Thats been the claim to fame for the the past two months, Why change it now? :evil: why not leave the trap as it is and make another pit onsite for making it thru? It is 40 acres and all:flipoff2:

Well, because Jim's truck, which is the current resident bad ass (Terry, remind me, I know its got a mountain motor but isn't on 58" ags or bigger, as well?) couldn't even make it through. Figure if he can't nobody will. Then again, like you said, as is, it gives bragging rights to anybody that can. Hell, I was going to take a full No2 run on it but the truth of the matter is that I KNOW I'd just end up buried to my bumpers....AGAIN :laughing:

Not like I was going to let that stop me. Nobody said I was the sharpest tool in the shed :homer:

ivanribic

02-20-2009, 11:08 AM

Not like I was going to let that stop me when I have a numbnutz in the passenger seat who is going to be tow strap bitch and sink up to his neck. :homer:
Re-quoted for accuracy fawk face. :flipoff2:

Blown_74_Ford_Wifey

02-20-2009, 11:10 AM

The black and white one is the old all-blue one rebuilt!? That explains alot, and to be honest, judging from the newer vid you guys did something right in the rebuild. It looks like it totally brings it. Defintely bad ass :mr-t:

Yup. And to be fair, it was Devynrae who had making the comments on the vids, not the wife, although I'd thought they were the same person. This internet drama is too confusing!!! :D
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I'm glad we could get the confusion and misunderstanding out of the way... so does this mean we're playing nice? LOL Oh, and thank you for clearing up the fact that I have NEVER said anything bad about anyone's truck... I appreciate that.:D

rockdawg97124

02-20-2009, 11:34 AM

Rockdawg....Is that you Kevin??? You know Marci will accept no excuses for a "conspicuous absence" on you & your better halfs behalf. Bring yer' jeep out & show them how to have fun w/out 44's & 500HP. Steer clear of the trap. You should own the trails on the track.
www.sthelens-mudrun.com

Terry Buddy, this is not Kevin :-).. Kevin (Mudslinger) is my Buddy with the white jeep. Mine is the one with the built V-8 (Well not built like these guys.. but a (old) 400 HP 5.0 HO) and 39.5 swampers.

Pic. You should remember me :-).
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i193/moneypit_2006/New%20Jeep%20tires/100_9182.jpg

Two years ago I had lots of fun in the old 20 foot deep drag strip, launching through it in 2 wheel drive on new years day.

Blown_74_Ford_Wifey

02-20-2009, 12:26 PM

Well, because Jim's truck, which is the current resident bad ass (Terry, remind me, I know its got a mountain motor but isn't on 58" ags or bigger, as well?) couldn't even make it through. Figure if he can't nobody will. Then again, like you said, as is, it gives bragging rights to anybody that can. Hell, I was going to take a full No2 run on it but the truth of the matter is that I KNOW I'd just end up buried to my bumpers....AGAIN :laughing:

Not like I was going to let that stop me. Nobody said I was the sharpest tool in the shed :homer:

I hope they leave the tank trap alone... and just build another one that's a bit easier. We'd LOVE to go through the nasty one!!!!:grinpimp:

Blown74Ford

02-20-2009, 01:58 PM

See you on the 28th. I'll bring the strap for the tow off :) there must be some mis-communication somewhere... :( sorry.... I didn't make a (tug) truck... my truck is made for wheelin' off-road, with an emphasis on mud:shaking: and this is supposed to be a mud play day, don't see any fun in hooking trucks up ,to see who is the heaviest and who would pull who:rolleyes: those trucks are called truck pullers are pull trucks,and they don't pull other trucks ,it's called a weight transfer sled ,and I don't have that truck anymore:( but i do have a mud truck:D

Big79'Terry

02-20-2009, 02:02 PM

Here is the abysmal abyss swallowing a 50,000 lb. excavator, DENIED!You can see Jim B.'s monster on 62" rubber, DENIED! The Bronco on 47's DENIED! You can really see the consistency of the "Peanut Butter" red clay in the Bronco pic. The former 20 ft. deep canyon was backfilled in May, we used a small dozer & therefore didn't get much compaction. I truly believe that it is impassible. Pushing out the fill does not guarantee anyone can make it:( .
Still think you can tame the Trap???:laughing:
I must admit this thread been an absolute riot!!!
Thanks to everyone who posted & kept it real....no immature BS.

fordraceboy

02-20-2009, 02:23 PM

Like the time I said that fordraceboy's mom would never give up the pooper for me and then she totally did.

I got nothin'...

If I had my junk back together right now I'd come break it all over again.

I'm giving you til the firs time someone says-- I bet you can't make it... :D

Not like I was going to let that stop me. Nobody said I was the sharpest tool in the shed :homer:

Understatement of the fawking year...

Re-quoted for accuracy fawk face. :flipoff2:

Seth seems to always want someone to ride shotgun for some reason- he's a bastard. Problem is, he needs to find taller friends.. :D :D

Blown74Ford

02-20-2009, 02:34 PM

I hope they leave the tank trap alone... and just build another one that's a bit easier. We'd LOVE to go through the nasty one!!!!:grinpimp:

:( I think what she meant to say is... we would love to try to make it :D but if you can make it where some of the big trucks might be able to make it ..it's all good :mr-t: more fun for everyone ,if trucks can make it thru the pit... but not little street trucks with highway tires:grinpimp:

Blown_74_Ford_Wifey

02-20-2009, 02:49 PM

rockdawg97124

02-20-2009, 03:52 PM

Ya I don't know what the problem is.. I made it though their in 2 wheel drive :flipoff2:

(of course that was before it was filled in) LOL.. Pigpen could have made it... but he didn't have a CHEVY motor :smokin: in his BRONCO:grinpimp:

Big79'Terry

02-20-2009, 04:17 PM

Wifey...You sound like a very supportive partner:smokin:.
The Tank Trap, in its current configuration, has no bottom. Think of it as really thick peanut butter...10 feet deep! Very little water in the first 5 ft. of clay, there is a natural spring @ the bottom. While preparing to backfill the trap last summer, we noticed approx. 3 ft. of crystal clear water @ the bottom. Then we got the 19,000 lb. dozer stuck!
Maybe, possibly....an extremely light mud racer pro class vehicle could carry enough speed across the surface not to be engulfed.
You know: one of those 3 second BBBRRRAAAAPPPPP!!! passes, where the mud continues to fall as the vehicle is already in the pits.:eek:

Halogrinder

02-20-2009, 04:20 PM

see general chit chat for "BRAAAP" comments.

Blown_74_Ford_Wifey

02-20-2009, 04:20 PM

Ok, I see. Well, honestly, I'd like to see how far he could get, you know? LOL I can't help but be supportive!!! I think the world of him and of his truck ;)

Proeliator

02-20-2009, 09:10 PM

I'm glad we could get the confusion and misunderstanding out of the way... so does this mean we're playing nice? LOL Oh, and thank you for clearing up the fact that I have NEVER said anything bad about anyone's truck... I appreciate that.:D

Yup, its all good, everything makes more sense now. Yea, I thought it was only fair to clear you of any wrong doing, as that was just some confusion with your friend. I"ll admit when I'm wrong ;)

there must be some mis-communication somewhere... :( sorry.... I didn't make a (tug) truck... my truck is made for wheelin' off-road, with an emphasis on mud:shaking: and this is supposed to be a mud play day, don't see any fun in hooking trucks up ,to see who is the heaviest and who would pull who:rolleyes: those trucks are called truck pullers are pull trucks,and they don't pull other trucks ,it's called a weight transfer sled ,and I don't have that truck anymore:( but i do have a mud truck:D

Well, its all good fun. Mine isn't built for pulling either but I'll hook up with anybody for fun and games. But, it wasn't meant to be anyways. I'm out of town right now in Spokane and got the call a couple hours back that my Dad has progressive, terminal bone cancer in an advanced state. He's had cancer several times before and already has severe heart failure due to all the bouts with chemo. Anyways, point being, I'll be spending next weekend with my parents. Sorry to disappoint, gang :(

ivanribic

02-20-2009, 11:21 PM

I'm out of town right now in Spokane and got the call a couple hours back that my Dad has progressive, terminal bone cancer in an advanced state. He's had cancer several times before and already has severe heart failure due to all the bouts with chemo. Anyways, point being, I'll be spending next weekend with my parents. Sorry to disappoint, gang :(
I would just like to point out that your dad, with terminal bone cancer, would still hook up to your shit and go truck to truck - Certified American Badass.

WWSD?

Blown_74_Ford_Wifey

02-21-2009, 08:18 AM

Well, its all good fun. Mine isn't built for pulling either but I'll hook up with anybody for fun and games. But, it wasn't meant to be anyways. I'm out of town right now in Spokane and got the call a couple hours back that my Dad has progressive, terminal bone cancer in an advanced state. He's had cancer several times before and already has severe heart failure due to all the bouts with chemo. Anyways, point being, I'll be spending next weekend with my parents. Sorry to disappoint, gang :(

We'll have to catch up on the next go around. Really sorry to hear about your Dad:(, there are certainly more important things in life than competition! No disappointments here... especially for the reason you'll be missing it... take care, best wishes for your family.

Big79'Terry

02-21-2009, 08:34 AM

Pro...My heart goes out to you & yours. My father is a 67 yr. old tough guy as well, he had his chest cracked 3 times.
On a completely less important topic...D-6 is on it's way up the hill to MudRun. Looking for somebody to go up & get some pics & post em'. Working dayshift this week so I can only orchestrate/fantasize/meddle from afar:confused:.
We are going to re-shape the Tank Trap, remove all the "peanut butter" consistency mud that has been created since we backfilled. Once an obstacle swallows a dozer, an excavator & every "badass" truck you know, we need to do something to make it more user freindly.
Hopefully we will return to "The Glory days"...only the GNARLIEST CAN MAKE IT. With a full throttle "Damn the torpedos" make it or carnage$$ run.

Halogrinder

02-21-2009, 08:50 AM

Blown_74_Ford_Wifey

02-21-2009, 09:22 AM

sometimes when i was racing, the pit would deny EVERYONE.... would start @5pm and just to finish the finals would be 1-2 AM in the morning :eek:

EEEEK!!!!:eek:

Halogrinder

02-21-2009, 09:50 AM

you know........

you could make it a bounty pit :smokin: :evil:

Proeliator

02-21-2009, 09:55 AM

Thanks for the well wishes everyone. My dad is a tough old bastard (hell, he's not even that old, he's 61), but he's already had cancer a few times and his body is pretty wrecked from chemo. Its ruined his heart (its at 8% funcion) so they've had to install a defibrillator/pacemaker last year. We were at the doctors once and he was telling Dad that with such little heart function Dad shouldn't be able to walk ten feet without sitting down to rest. Dad just laughed and said "I noticed it took me a little longer to cut that half cord of wood yesterday but I was still walking fine" :laughing: The doctor was totally wtf.....older generation are sure tougher than we are! He'd been responding really good to all the heart meds and we thought he was over the hump health wise and now friggin advanced bone cancer, frigging ridiculous :shaking: Blows I'm out of state right now :mad:

But back on topic, yea, I think its a great idea to make the old trap "maybe" possible for only the gnarliest. They'll be plenty of other traps for folks lower down on the food chain. Hell, I know I've said it before but the way you've groomed the acreage really can provide fun/challenge for ever level of wheeler.

TEX

02-21-2009, 11:37 AM

agreed. when the pit swallows everything, it makes a long LONG night.

sometimes when i was racing, the pit would deny EVERYONE.... would start @5pm and just to finish the finals would be 1-2 AM in the morning :eek:

1-2 a.m. is pretty normal for an ending time for a race around here - even if we have a number of full passes and start at noon. One in KC last Summer just barely beat the sun coming up on Sunday :laughing:

Halogrinder

02-21-2009, 12:48 PM

fawk that noise. im there for a good amount of time, and so are the spectators. no one wants to do that shit for that long... i mean it ruins the fun outta it, really

Blown_74_Ford_Wifey

02-21-2009, 05:42 PM

you know........
you could make it a bounty pit :smokin: :evil:

Ok.. what's a bounty pit?:confused:

We were at the doctors once and he was telling Dad that with such little heart function Dad shouldn't be able to walk ten feet without sitting down to rest. Dad just laughed and said "I noticed it took me a little longer to cut that half cord of wood yesterday but I was still walking fine" :laughing:

ROTFLMAO Your dad sounds just like MINE!!! You sure we aren't related????:laughing::eek:

Halogrinder

02-21-2009, 06:31 PM

money gets put up.
who ever trys it pays up a fee to try. he makes it, the money pot goes to him. if not? money keeps stacking up :)

or someone just gets some $$$$ together and puts it up for the first to make it....

never heard of bounty trails or obsticles?

Big79'Terry

02-22-2009, 07:39 AM

Here's some pics from yesterdays dirt work, performed by our sponsor Northwest Metal Fab & Pipe. Dennis did some "cat skinnin" for us. Thank you so much Dennis!! :D Pics by Dan @ www.pnw4x4s.com
Thanks Dan:D.

Blown_74_Ford_Wifey

02-22-2009, 09:30 AM

money gets put up.
who ever trys it pays up a fee to try. he makes it, the money pot goes to him. if not? money keeps stacking up :)

Well HELL YEAH!!!! That sounds like fun! :D I'm all for that!:smokin:

fordraceboy

02-23-2009, 07:53 PM

I would just like to point out that your dad, with terminal bone cancer, would still hook up to your shit and go truck to truck - Certified American Badass.

WWSD?

That's because, as you stated- he's a badass and Pro, well he tries anyway... :flipoff2: :flipoff2::flipoff2:

Proeliator

02-24-2009, 02:05 PM

That's because, as you stated- he's a badass and Pro, well he tries anyway... :flipoff2: :flipoff2::flipoff2:

I got nothing, thats the gospel truth :D

I like the idea of a bounty trap....but this particular trap has SUCH a history up here I'm glad they are making it "slighly" more doable. Terry isn't kidding when he says its ten feet of peanut butter. Although, its more like twenty. I don't see anybody making it across except for a three second pass from a ridiculously high horse, ultra light sand rail. Brrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaapppp! :flipoff2:

mustange70

02-24-2009, 07:37 PM

http://s165.photobucket.com/albums/u...t=1d6c274b.pbr

What about that . . . . .as long as it don't sink to the bottom first :).

Halogrinder

02-24-2009, 07:37 PM

bad link

Jrod-13

02-24-2009, 08:56 PM

A 1000 hp on pump gas.... I call bullshit...

you mean, like the 973HP, 100% streetable, pump gas, BBF that was posted up on the 3rd page... of THIS VERY THREAD!!??

kensdodge1

03-01-2009, 11:39 AM

360 la engine ported heads ported 2bbl intake and a race holley 500 2bbl

Goin4Broke

04-02-2009, 03:12 PM

slightly modified 460

timothyalderson

04-03-2009, 11:55 AM

355 SBC, ported double humps, Crane 1.6 golds, gear drive, 44 pound accell injectors, 255 gph EFI pump, BBK press regulator, Summit Cam (SUM-K1105), MSD Dist, Summit BTM ign, CD COIL, Megasquirt standalone PCM, TRW dished pistons, Scat forged rods, ARP everywhere, Ported 89' corvette TPI intake, HX-35 turbocharger from 24 valve, and a Nitrous express mainline system. I push 14 pounds of Boost and hit it with a 50 shot to keep it cool ( It had an Intercooler but i took it of because the nitrous works better) and the nitrous has a seperate fuel supply system. It was originially Carburated and blow thru.http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c13/timothyalderson/mytruck030.jpg
And heres the new setup. It right in the middle of paint and tear down for the new season.
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c13/timothyalderson/mytruck011.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c13/timothyalderson/mytruck055.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c13/timothyalderson/mytruck056.jpg