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Harry Reid to Force Vote On Omnibus Land Grab This Weekend

The Omnibus Federal Land Grab Bill Number is now S. 22

Urgent Action Required

You must call your Senators immediately. They must be deluged with calls now at (202) 224-3121.

If you live in California Senator Feinstein could be swayed in our favor. She needs to hear from You.

You should also call your Congressman. The bill will have to go back through the House if it passes the Senate.

All Senators may be called at (202) 224-3121. All Congressmen may be called at (202) 225-3121. They must know in no uncertain terms that rural America opposes this massive Wilderness and land grab bill.

You must let your Senators and Congressman know you will hold them responsible for their vote on S. 22. This is the largest land grab in 20 years. They must know they will be held accountable.

Now is not the time to be locking up our resources when we need them to help rebuild our economy.

Please forward this message to as many people as possible as quickly as possible.

For more information on this bill see:
http://www.landrights.org/New%20Omnibus_HR5151_E-mail.pdf



Ken

You beat me to posting this Ken..

CALL NOW!!

I got this email too... I came her hoping there would be a little better explanation. We're to ask our Senators to vote no, correct?
Thanks,
Billy

I got this email too... I came her hoping there would be a little better explanation. We're to ask our Senators to vote no, correct?
Thanks,
Billy

Yes, we need votes saying *NO* to this monstrosity of an omnibus bill, lumping all kinds of issues, and lands into one huge WILDERNESS bill

For more information on this bill see:

http://www.landrights.org/New%20Omnibus_HR5151_E-mail.pdf

Ken

This is the link to this same issue posted by KURTULEAS in the Chit Chat section
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=748961&page=2

This matter is FAR REACHING, LONG LASTING, and could have a nasty domino affect on us ALL!!! It is VERY TIME SENSITIVE because THE vote is set for THIS Sunday, January 11th at 2:00 PM, which I assume is Eastern time so that means 11:00 AM Pacific time.

Google your local representative, congressman, etc. ... call and/or email them like your very own existence depended on it! Failure to act NOW will surely affect you VERY soon and in a bad way! It really doesn't take much effort on your part, you don't have to be an eloquent writer or amazing speaker, just make yourself heard!! You should be :mad3: :mad3: :mad3: as he!! right now just knowing they are attempting to rob you blind. Keep this quote in mind ... "In order for evil to succeed, Good men do nothing...." E. Burke.

I couldn't get through on the phone, so I emailed http://www.slicky.net/smilies/sad.gif
Dear Senator,

My request is very urgent, so I will be brief. You must vote no on the S.22 Wilderness/Land Grab bill. We must not tie up our resources when they are so desperately needed to rebuild our economy. Additionally, this bill contains far too many facets; you do not have to take the good with the bad! These bills should have stayed separate and been voted on individually.

Thank you very much for your time and consideration.

http://www.savethetrails.us/Default.aspx?PetitionID=31

It passed :mad3:

Ride on
Brewster

:mad3: :mad3: :mad3: :mad3:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=apzMY6TV_xQo&refer=us

Plan to Set Aside More Wilderness Land Advances in U.S. Senate
Email | Print | A A A

By Lorraine Woellert and Brian Faler

Jan. 11 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. Senate, in its first order of business this year, advanced a $10 billion conservation plan that would set aside more than 2 million acres of natural wilderness and protect 1,000 miles of scenic rivers.

The Omnibus Public Lands Management Act, the first piece of legislation considered by the new Senate, combines about 160 individual environmental bills in nearly 1,300 pages.

The measure “is possibly the most significant conservation legislation passed by the Senate in the past decade,” Senator Jeff Bingaman, chairman of the Energy and Natural Resources Committee and the bill’s chief sponsor, said on the Senate floor today. Two days ago, Bingaman, a New Mexico Democrat, said the measure was “developed on a bipartisan basis” and approved by his committee in the last Senate.

The 66-12 vote overcame an effort by Senator Tom Coburn, an Oklahoma Republican, to kill the legislation. The Senate will debate and vote on the bill’s passage this week.

Environmentalists led by the National Landscape Conservation System have rallied around the legislation. The group is an alliance of 80 environmental groups including hunters, hikers, archaeologists and ranchers. One of the legislation’s central provisions would add 2 million acres in eight states to the National Wilderness Preservation System, which currently has 107 million acres in 44 states, according to the Congressional Research Service.

The package has drawn fire from several lawmakers and interest groups who say the conservation measures would restrict access to gas and coal reserves and deepen U.S. dependence on foreign energy. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce and fiscal watchdog Club for Growth are among those opposing the legislation.

Oil and Natural Gas

Coburn, citing data from the Bureau of Land Management, predicted that the legislation would take about 8.8 trillion cubic feet of natural gas and 300 million barrels of oil out of production in Wyoming alone.

“The energy resources walled off by this bill would nearly match the annual production levels of our two largest natural gas production states--Alaska and Texas,” Coburn said in a written statement.

The bill also contains billions of dollars for special projects known as earmarks, including $1 billion for a California water project to protect salmon migration and $3.5 million for a commission to commemorate the 450th anniversary of the founding of St. Augustine, Florida.

Gasoline prices reached a record in July last year before declining during the following months. The average per-gallon price peaked at $4.11, according to AAA, the largest U.S. motorist group. U.S. auto sales in December plunged 36 percent, leaving the industry’s 2008 sales volume at a 16-year low. Sales of the top model of trucks made by Ford Motor Co., based in Dearborn, Michigan, and Detroit-based GM, fell 25 percent last year.

The bill also contains billions of dollars for special projects known as earmarks, including $1 billion for a California water project to protect salmon migration and $3.5 million for a commission to commemorate the 450th anniversary of the founding of St. Augustine, Florida.


:mad3: :mad3: :mad3: :mad3: :mad3:

What now?

Fuck.

Billy

Further reseach shows that todays vote was for cloture......ending of discussion on the bill. It is expected that the bill will go onto the senate floor for a vote later this week.

Once again, the senate didn't "work together" to come to an agreement. Check out the party line voting and note how many Republicans entered a "Not Voting".

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=1&vote=00001

We still have time to contact the senators with our comments. Let them know that bundleing 160 bills into one vote is not proper representation. Each bill should be voted on its own merit.

Ride on
Brewster

Further reseach shows that todays vote was for cloture......ending of discussion on the bill. It is expected that the bill will go onto the senate floor for a vote later this week.

Once again, the senate didn't "work together" to come to an agreement. Check out the party line voting and note how many Republicans entered a "Not Voting".

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LI...1&vote =00001

We still have time to contact the senators with our comments. Let them know that bundleing 160 bills into one vote is not proper representation. Each bill should be voted on its own merit.

Ride on
Brewster

Agreed 160 bills and one vote:mad3: I can only hope Reid gets voted out of office alongwith some of the other fucks

Further reseach shows that todays vote was for cloture......ending of discussion on the bill. It is expected that the bill will go onto the senate floor for a vote later this week.

Once again, the senate didn't "work together" to come to an agreement. Check out the party line voting and note how many Republicans entered a "Not Voting".

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LI...1&vote =00001

We still have time to contact the senators with our comments. Let them know that bundleing 160 bills into one vote is not proper representation. Each bill should be voted on its own merit.

Ride on
Brewster

OK, so there's still a chance it could get squashed in the Senate?
Billy

http://www.savethetrails.us/Default.aspx?PetitionID=31

I'm getting an error when attempting to send... is this your site?
Thanks,
Billy

OK, so there's still a chance it could get squashed in the Senate?
Billy

Not at all likely. But, it still has to go through the Assembly after passing the senate. Time to fire off some emails to our Assembly people! The contents of the bill and the bundleing of 160 seperate bills is NOT in the interest of the public.

Ride on
Brewster

I'm getting an error when attempting to send... is this your site?
Thanks,
Billy

Write to Chris Horgan - GreenRider@SaveTheTrails.us with the errors you are getting pasted.

I too can't use his auto-generator, because of errors.

If he hears from a bunch of us, it might get fixed faster.


ken

Works for me, just sent another letter.

Write to Chris Horgan - GreenRider@SaveTheTrails.us with the errors you are getting pasted.

I too can't use his auto-generator, because of errors.

If he hears from a bunch of us, it might get fixed faster.


ken

Done.

Here's the full error for reference:
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It definitely looks like a server-side error.
Billy

Done.

Here's the full error for reference:


It definitely looks like a server-side error.
Billy


Send it *TO* Chris, and why I posted above you !!! does no good to post it here.


Ken

This makes me sick, find out & remember how your senators voted:mad3:

Send it *TO* Chris, and why I posted above you !!! does no good to post it here.


Ken

That's what "Done." meant bro.

I had already sent it to info@savethetrails.us the first time I got it as well.

I just posted it here too to see if we're getting the same error.

Billy

The omnibus land bill would preserve more than 2 million acres of land, establish new layers of bureaucracy in the Bureau of Land Management, and designate former President Bill Clinton's childhood home a national historic site.

"When the American people asked Congress to set a new tone, I don't believe refusing to listen to the concerns of others was what they had in mind," Mr. Coburn said in a statement. "The American people expect us to hold open, civil and thorough debates on costly legislation, not ram through 1,300-page bills when few are watching."

But a large number of more-liberal Republican lawmakers, including Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski, sided with the Democratic majority to move the lands bill forward.
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/12/massive-lands-bill-clears-filibuster/

Here is the breakdown of the vote by Senators' names. First link didn't work.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=1&vote=00001

I sent mine today.
I was away from my internet this weekend, and all hell breaks loose.

Todd

copy here:

Dear Senator Boxer

S.22 has combined almost all the wilderness bills from the past year. Each of these bills should be voted on as individual bills, and not combined into one huge bill that includes lands that are not suitable for Wilderness.

As the Director of Environmental Affairs for United Four Wheel Drive Associations, I work hard to ensure that all of our public lands are utilized in a responsible way for all forms of recreation for Americans.

I do agree that we do need some wilderness, but any new lands included today should meet the full intention of the original Wilderness designation of 1963. Most of the current lands do not meet the original intent of the law as written by being untrammeled by man. Most of these lands have seen some form of use by man over the years.

We do need a new designation for backcountry that could include some form of managed use for all users.

So, in closing, please vote no on S.22

Thank You for your time

Todd Ockert
United Four Wheel Drive Associations
Director of Environmental Affairs

California Senator Feinstein was the first to speak in support when S.22 was introduced 1/7.....

Sen. Dianne Feinstein [D-CA]: [Introducing S. 22] Mr. President, I rise to speak to Senator BINGAMAN's introduction today of the Omnibus Public Land Management Act of 2009. I strongly support this bill and Senator BINGAMAN's leadership in sponsoring it, and urge my colleagues to vote for its prompt passage.....
you can read everything she said at http://www.govtrack.us/congress/record.xpd?id=111-s20090107-33&bill=s111-22

Tracking page for S.22
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s111-22

Speeches
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s111-22&tab=speeches
note especially Jan. 11
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/record.xpd?id=111-s20090111-7&bill=s111-22

This will have to be fought in the House - should be there shortly.

I wasn't going to bore everyone with what Senator Boxer said .... but it does give a clear demonstration of the attorney and politician art of fallacious argument .....

Sen. Barbara Boxer [D-CA]: Mr. President, I would like to thank Senators BINGAMAN, Domenici, and MURKOWSKI for their excellent leadership in putting together this package, and Senator Reid for his commitment to seeking its passage on the floor. I would just like to say a few words about my three wilderness bills in the package: the California Desert and Mountain Heritage Act, the Sequoia-Kings Canyon National Park Wilderness Act, and the Eastern Sierra and Northern San Gabriel Wild Heritage Act.

But first, since the economy is on all our minds right now, I just want to talk a little about the economic importance of these wilderness areas.

The Outdoor Industry Foundation estimates that outdoor recreation contributes $730 billion per year to the United States' economy and supports nearly 6.5 million jobs. Recreation specifically in wilderness areas produces at least $630 million annually, according to a report by Colorado State University resource economists.

The economic benefit of wilderness areas extends far beyond these types of direct uses. People are drawn to living in areas with scenic beauty, opportunities for recreation, and a high quality of life bringing new jobs and consumer spending to rural counties.

Articles in the journals "Population and Environment" and the "International Journal of Wilderness" have documented that population growth, increases in employment, and wage increases in rural counties of the western United States are all significantly correlated with the percent of wilderness land in these counties. And property values are almost 13 percent higher in locations adjacent to wilderness.

When you include indirect economic benefits and ecosystem services such as protecting watersheds or filtering waste, wilderness areas produce a staggering $3 to $4.5 billion per year. Colleagues, let me be clear--protecting wilderness does not hurt our economy--it is an investment into our future.

Now I want to tell you a little about each of my three wilderness bills and why it is so important that we pass them as part of this package. These are bipartisan, bicameral bills that will preserve some of California's and the nation's most magnificent places for generations to come. I have worked with Senator Feinstein and our colleagues in the House on each of these bills for over 2 years, finding the right balance for the conservation, development, and recreational needs in these areas....

The penalities increased starting in 2002 and before you know it everything has extreme penalities. If you drive in a wilderness area there are a variety of things that will probably be lumped together in addition to just these basic ones:

http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx_08/43cfr6300_08.html
"§ 6302.30 What penalties apply if I commit one or more of the prohibited acts?
(a) If you commit a prohibited act listed in § 6302.20 in a BLM wilderness area, you are subject to criminal prosecution on each offense. If convicted, you may be fined not more than $100,000 under 18 U.S.C. 3571. In addition, you may be imprisoned for not more than 12 months, as provided for by 43 U.S.C. 1733(a).
(b) At the request of the Secretary of the Interior, the United States Attorney General may institute a civil action in any United States district court for an injunction or other appropriate order to prevent you from using public lands in violation of the regulations of this part."

Of course here in California even though its federal land they tack on more-
California Public Resources Code section 5008 - Fine up to $1000 and county jail not exceeding 90 days.
California Vehicle Code section 38301 - fine up to $300 and court may impound vehicle up to 30 days. For a third offense committed within seven years add on county jail for up to 90 days.

If you did damage to public land (i.e. left tire tracks or moved rocks) then it gets much more serious and jail may be several years.

California ia especially "cute" because it is on you to figure out what is wilderness - Feinstein didn't want it "marred" by the posting of signs. When I stopped in a BLM office last month for an area I was driving in Inyo that already has wilderness areas the person there couldn't offer any accurate map. The young woman just giggled about it as I tried to figure out if my planned trip was OK.

There are a lot of smarter people out there than me that might figure out how to respond to this stuff - my personal viewpoint is the fragmented "pro-access" groups need to come together and recognize they must take the path the enviromental groups did - make it all about money and litigation attorneys.... a very bitter pill but I see no other way - the old way of relying on local process and regulatory boards is fading fast....

Nice to see you stop by... ;)


kris.

Nice to see you stop by... ;)kris.

Well speak of the.... there's one of those dedicated smarter people that travel the lonely western trails now! :grinpimp:

(My apologies, I owe you a reply from the other forum - I'll PM here soon)

sent to both of my Senator's

Please send to your House of Representatives, too, now.... because the Senate seems determined to get it done, Our hope of squashing it now lies in the House.... Rumor has it that Obama will sign as #1 priority, should it clear the House... That is our only hope, House!


ken

Sent this to McClintock, i guess I'm in mood this AM:

Please oppose any bill that is a compilation of bills. Every bill should
be considered on it's own merit.

Please oppose any Omnibus Public Land Management Act bills that may come
to you in the very near future.

I can not stress how dumb it is that grouping legislation together really
is.

I can see where designating a former Presidents residence as a historic
site has value, but to also vote to deny public access to public lands at
the same time is the height of insanity.

Please stop this type of legislation in our Federal government.

Sincerely,

Check out the party line voting and note how many Republicans entered a "Not Voting".
This is SUCH a cop-out. Either vote FOR it or AGAINST it, but for goodness sake, take a freaking stand.

When it comes right down to it, I'd rather legislation like this passed on a full vote, with every vote counted AND recorded, so that we, the people, can hold our electeds fully responsible for placing a bad vote... and that's not a Republican issue or a Democrat issue, it is an American issue.

Randii (who hopes this bad omnibus bill doesn't pass)

This is SUCH a cop-out. Either vote FOR it or AGAINST it, but for goodness sake, take a freaking stand.

When it comes right down to it, I'd rather legislation like this passed on a full vote, with every vote counted AND recorded, so that we, the people, can hold our electeds fully responsible for placing a bad vote... and that's not a Republican issue or a Democrat issue, it is an American issue.

Randii (who hopes this bad omnibus bill doesn't pass)

I agree - If our elected officials are going to screw us at least have a spine & vote Yes or No

I agree - If our elected officials are going to screw us at least have a spine & vote Yes or No

Our politicians don't have spines, just big fancy houses and fat bank accounts!
Letters? Phonecalls? Public Meetings?
For what?
So an intern can glance at it and toss it in the can and send you the same response they send to each and every one of us!
Most letters read..." I voted for or against this issue and I really don't care what you say or think cause you did not donate to my campaigne fund."

Our political system is a joke!:mad3: They are going to do whatever the most amount of paid interest to any certain issue dictates. The offroad community has not lined enough pockets of politicians and thats all it boils down to.

I take care of our jeep newsletter for our club and just sent out 250+ emails to everyone rallying the troops.. I HATE this groups of idiots in this congress!!!!! :mad3:

we are in for a long ride of Hell with Obama.. :shaking:

The vote is live right now...





k. (http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN2_wm.aspx)

The vote is live right now...




k. (http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN2_wm.aspx)

Thanks watching it now http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN2_wm.aspx

If I heard correctly it just passed 2nd vote in senate 73 to 21

Thanks for fixing the link, when I opened the window to post, it killed the player and I wanted to get back to it and I didnt check it.

I didnt get the final vote, but yes it passed.


k.

Thanks for fixing the link, when I opened the window to post, it killed the player and I wanted to get back to it and I didnt check it.

I didnt get the final vote, but yes it passed.


k.

How the Senate voted today, Looks like some changed vote from Aye to Nay after it secured enough votes to pass

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=1&vote=00003

Just like Sundays vote on S22, todays was a vote for "cloture", the ending of discussion on the bill. Still time to contact your Senator!!!

Ride on
Brewster

Are you sure ?
Gimme a linky...

Title card on CSPAN said "Final Vote" and the link above is the results for the vote on the 14th.

k.

Are you sure ?
Gimme a linky...

Title card on CSPAN said "Final Vote" and the link above is the results for the vote on the 14th.

k.

Same site but different link with same vote tallies. http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-s22/show

Here it is 72 to 21 - http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=1&vote=00003

This SUCKS I think the writing is on the wall and were all FUBAR!:mad3:

I have a bad feeling this is only the start of this shit!!!

Same site but different link with same vote tallies. http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-s22/show

Here it is 72 to 21 - http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=1&vote=00003

What I should of posted initially but not in one of my best moods today.

S. 22 (Omnibus Public Land Management Act of 2009 )

Vote Summary
Question: On Passage of the Bill (S.22 as Amended. )

Vote Number: 3 Vote Date: January 15, 2009, 12:21 PM
Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Bill Passed
Measure Number: S. 22 (Omnibus Public Land Management Act of 2009 )

Measure Title: A bill to designate certain land as components of the National Wilderness Preservation System, to authorize certain programs and activities in the Department of the Interior and the Department of Agriculture, and for other purposes.

Vote Counts:

YEAs 73

NAYs 21

Not Voting 4


http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=1&vote=00003

There are a lot of smarter people out there than me that might figure out how to respond to this stuff - my personal viewpoint is the fragmented "pro-access" groups need to come together and recognize they must take the path the enviromental groups did - make it all about money and litigation attorneys.... a very bitter pill but I see no other way - the old way of relying on local process and regulatory boards is fading fast....

x11nty bazillion.

Are you sure ?
Gimme a linky...
Title card on CSPAN said "Final Vote" and the link above is the results for the vote on the 14th.
k.

There were several different procedural votes on S22 between Monday and yesterday. But, it did finally pass the senate.


http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d111:1:./temp/~bdM9NH:@@@X|/bss/111search.html|

^^^^ Sorry, that link doesn' t work!

Ride on
Brewster

California Senator Feinstein was the first to speak in support when S.22 was introduced 1/7.....

Sen. Dianne Feinstein [D-CA]: [Introducing S. 22] Mr. President, I rise to speak to Senator BINGAMAN's introduction today of the Omnibus Public Land Management Act of 2009. I strongly support this bill and Senator BINGAMAN's leadership in sponsoring it, and urge my colleagues to vote for its prompt passage.....
you can read everything she said at http://www.govtrack.us/congress/record.xpd?id=111-s20090107-33&bill=s111-22

Tracking page for S.22
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s111-22

Speeches
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s111-22&tab=speeches
note especially Jan. 11
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/record.xpd?id=111-s20090111-7&bill=s111-22

This will have to be fought in the House - should be there shortly.


I wasn't going to bore everyone with what Senator Boxer said .... but it does give a clear demonstration of the attorney and politician art of fallacious argument .....

Sen. Barbara Boxer [D-CA]: Mr. President, I would like to thank Senators BINGAMAN, Domenici, and MURKOWSKI for their excellent leadership in putting together this package, and Senator Reid for his commitment to seeking its passage on the floor. I would just like to say a few words about my three wilderness bills in the package: the California Desert and Mountain Heritage Act, the Sequoia-Kings Canyon National Park Wilderness Act, and the Eastern Sierra and Northern San Gabriel Wild Heritage Act.

But first, since the economy is on all our minds right now, I just want to talk a little about the economic importance of these wilderness areas.

The Outdoor Industry Foundation estimates that outdoor recreation contributes $730 billion per year to the United States' economy and supports nearly 6.5 million jobs. Recreation specifically in wilderness areas produces at least $630 million annually, according to a report by Colorado State University resource economists.

The economic benefit of wilderness areas extends far beyond these types of direct uses. People are drawn to living in areas with scenic beauty, opportunities for recreation, and a high quality of life bringing new jobs and consumer spending to rural counties.

Articles in the journals "Population and Environment" and the "International Journal of Wilderness" have documented that population growth, increases in employment, and wage increases in rural counties of the western United States are all significantly correlated with the percent of wilderness land in these counties. And property values are almost 13 percent higher in locations adjacent to wilderness.

When you include indirect economic benefits and ecosystem services such as protecting watersheds or filtering waste, wilderness areas produce a staggering $3 to $4.5 billion per year. Colleagues, let me be clear--protecting wilderness does not hurt our economy--it is an investment into our future.

Now I want to tell you a little about each of my three wilderness bills and why it is so important that we pass them as part of this package. These are bipartisan, bicameral bills that will preserve some of California's and the nation's most magnificent places for generations to come. I have worked with Senator Feinstein and our colleagues in the House on each of these bills for over 2 years, finding the right balance for the conservation, development, and recreational needs in these areas....


All Bow Down The mighty Cloven Hoved ones have spoken:mad3:

There were several different procedural votes on S22 between Monday and yesterday. But, it did finally pass the senate.
http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d111:1:./temp/~bdM9NH:@@@X|/bss/111search.html|
Ride on
Brewster

Like most things governmental, thomas.gov links won't work correctly - partly because the search engine results are not kept. The "stable" link on Thomas is http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:s22:

The official version S.22 Act (if a document says "Bill" it is old) that passed in the Senate is at Government Printing Office
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:s22es.txt.pdf

For future reference, www.govtrack.us appears to be easier to use on message boards because the link stays the same. S.22 is http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s111-22
The vote link is on that page - http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=s2009-3

I can not find the map attachments for Inyo and the Sierras so far. "Hiding the ball" since the maps are the most valuable document for what is closed and what is not.

If anyone has links to the version of the maps actually used in S.22 Act please post them.