: Driving with front LockRight locker(hubs locked)??


4x4junkie
08-20-2002, 06:21 AM
(I think this should be OK here, not too chit-chatty.:D )

I have a friend who just put front/rear Lockrights in his '86 Samurai. Every time we go out wheelin' (or even just hangin out) this subject of him not being able to drive any distance in 2WD with the hubs locked comes up. He insists that if he pulls the T-case out of 4X4 and continues to drive in 2WD, this will damage the locker. I can't understand how that would be. I thought a little trick to turn sharper when running a fulltime locker up front is to turn while in 2WD (I have an ARB on my "crappy" Ford, so I wouldn't know). But he says he can't do that, it will break. He says its because the front locker reuses the stock side gears. I don't understand how that would matter. If it needs to differentiate, the coupler simply ratchets. Whether under power (4WD) or not (2WD).

Anyone else familiar with this? What am I missing?

Am I wrong?:confused: Or is he full of shit?

Just asking for arguement's sake.

Thanks (Did a little searching, but nothing)

Bill4rest
08-20-2002, 09:25 AM
If you mean on the trail. I have had no problem, and your friend is a :rainbow: :crybaby:

yager
08-20-2002, 09:42 AM
pad pad pad......


your "friend" needs to get out more...

NC Zuk
08-20-2002, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by 4x4junkie
[B] Am I wrong?:confused: Or is he full of shit? /B]

My guess would be the latter! :rolleyes:

350 Samurai
08-20-2002, 11:08 AM
Ask him if he unlocks the rear when he drives it too.:rolleyes:
They both have the same locker, whats the difference?

4x4junkie
08-21-2002, 12:53 AM
Thats what I thought. I just wanted to see if anyone else heard something similar. It doesn't seem that way.
He says there was a warning on the box or something, I dunno (Wonderin' if he made that up. But why??:rolleyes: ).

Yes, he is a bit of a :rainbow: :crybaby:


Thanks guys!:D

4004ever
08-21-2002, 07:26 AM
most lockers will not engage if no torque is applied to them. In other words, if you are in 2wd, yet both hubs are locked, you will probably hear a ratcheting noise, but not encounter lock up. Unless your'e running a spool or ARB, you shouldn't have a problem. IMHO.

Shaun

TNToy
08-21-2002, 09:39 AM
I've probably put at least ten miles on my front lockright (rear is detroit) all told on the street in 2WD with the hubs unlocked. I am POSITIVE that your friend is an idiot.

Tell him to go re-read the manual thingy. Maybe I'm wrong. THe only reason I can think of is that it would excessively wear the factory side gears until they were beyond spec, but I don't see how that wouldn't happen to the rear ones on the street if they wore that fast, too.

Wilson
08-21-2002, 10:38 PM
Maybe they are different in toys and zuk's (I doubt it) but in a D44, the lockrite replaces the stock spider and side gears. The only stock component that is reused is the center pin and carrier.

350 Samurai
08-22-2002, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by Wilson
Maybe they are different in toys and zuk's (I doubt it) but in a D44, the lockrite replaces the stock spider and side gears. The only stock component that is reused is the center pin and carrier.
You can get a Samurai Lockrite either way, with or without side gears.

TNToy
08-22-2002, 07:11 PM
For Toys, the 4-cylinder model replaces everything. The V6 model uses the stock side gears. You don't get a choice.

I initially had a lockright ready to go into my V6 third member. Tuned out the gears were worn beyond spec, and the price difference between a lockright & new gears vs. a detroit was $80. So I coughed it up for the detroit. And Im glad I did every time I make a u-turn on the steet without the bucking bronco syndrome.