: She's on all 4's...(pics)


RockRover
08-21-2002, 07:13 AM
Mmmmkay. She's riding on all fours' now. Front's buttoned up...Now the 100 or so 'little' thing's and I'll be wheeling again.

RockRover
08-21-2002, 07:15 AM
more...

FrankenRover
08-21-2002, 07:16 AM
Holy friggin shite!!!

That thing is a monster Dougy. Can't wait to see it in action.

How about shooting for some Cruces wheeling in early October? My truck should be done and I will be itching to wheel.

Blister

RockRover
08-21-2002, 07:18 AM
Yea Bill...Same thing I was thinking!

Another...

RockRover
08-21-2002, 07:20 AM
yet another...

RockRover
08-21-2002, 07:21 AM
yet another (again)...

road1will
08-21-2002, 07:22 AM
hey doug, it looks to me like you are going to do a little bit more fender trimming... :D

RockRover
08-21-2002, 07:24 AM
sure why not...

RockRover
08-21-2002, 07:28 AM
Last one?

Lot's of clean-up work (obviously) but you get the idea.

rhills
08-21-2002, 07:28 AM
Doug,

Fantastic! I'm looking forward to watching you and Bill in action in Las Cruces. Nice how you tied the upper three-link mount and the panhard rod mount together on the front axle!

Rich

RockRover
08-21-2002, 07:32 AM
Damn...looks like we've got another band-width issues captain!

Let's try again...(need's clean-up shot)

--D

Serious One
08-21-2002, 07:37 AM
D,

I've been sitting here thinking of what I'm going to say, and all I can say is 'Oh BAAAABYYYY!'.

Lots and lots to comment on, but you know what the cool shiat is anyway, and we're only seeing the tip of the iceburg I suspect.

It's not all THAT important in the grand scheme of things, but I do like the attention to detail with the front nose bar going through the wings. Very sweet.

Of course all the rest is just sick sick sick!

Salute! :flipoff2:

RockRover
08-21-2002, 07:38 AM
Originally posted by rhills
Doug,

Fantastic! I'm looking forward to watching you and Bill in action in Las Cruces. Nice how you tied the upper three-link mount and the panhard rod mount together on the front axle!

Rich

Like this? :D

Diesel Jim
08-21-2002, 08:10 AM
HOLEY MOLEY!!!! that rig is fkin AWESOME!


needs bigger tyres though.....:flipoff2:

Jamie

onsafari
08-21-2002, 08:11 AM
RockRover, nice rig.

I noticed you are not using mis-allignment bushings on your suspension links, do you get enough flex out of the heim without them?

johnnyk
08-21-2002, 08:17 AM
HOLLY CRAP!!:grinpimp:

Kittens have died for less.

Nice job

madcowdungbeetle
08-21-2002, 08:32 AM
I don't words can describe the incomperable badassedness of that beast!

If I ever get a chance to head out west, I wanna see that thing in action.

Serious One
08-21-2002, 08:33 AM
Doug,

I think you need a new winch.

We should talk.

Serious One
08-21-2002, 08:36 AM
Here's another 'beauty' shot of the new winch.

I tried to get Fred to light up a cig. and do a Camel ad, but he wouldn't have any part of it!

RockRover
08-21-2002, 08:48 AM
Originally posted by onsafari
RockRover, nice rig.

I noticed you are not using mis-allignment bushings on your suspension links, do you get enough flex out of the heim without them?


Ohhhhh yea...She flexes WAY passed the limit of the coil-overs now. With no binding at all. Had I pinned the upper links to the frame via a heim then I would be concernd...However I kept the stock mounting locations at the frame, and as such, the link is free to rotate 360 deg if necessary. As a matter of fact, my original intent was to use 3" polly bushes only at the front of the link...However there wasn't enough clearance to do that and mount the coil-over (it would hit the hi-steer arms)...Therefore I used those big fawkin' hiems (1" x 1.25"). It's a very free moving suspension...Now to locate the limiting straps! :flipoff2:

RockRover
08-21-2002, 08:49 AM
Originally posted by Serious One
Doug,

I think you need a new winch.

We should talk.

Sweet chop man! I take it your trying to find a new home for that bad boy? PM me.

--D

redrangie
08-21-2002, 08:59 AM
Rock Rover,

YOU SUCK.

That has to be the best job I have seen. I cannot wait to see peoples faces when you run that beast.

I noticed the headers. Did I miss something from the prior posts? Where are they from?

j

merv
08-21-2002, 10:04 AM
Not too bad, for a Land Rover :flipoff2:

Not wantin to dis it, but if you get a nudge on the front unicorn bar, and it flexes at all it will destroy the wings if it flexes at all?

Nope. Stop now and start again.

Do you want me to take this one off your hands? :-)

RockRover
08-21-2002, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by redrangie
Rock Rover,

YOU SUCK.

That has to be the best job I have seen. I cannot wait to see peoples faces when you run that beast.

I noticed the headers. Did I miss something from the prior posts? Where are they from?

j

Thanks for the nice words! (I think:flipoff2:)

I've been running the headers now for a couple of years...Putum' on when I did the ZF swap. They are standard Headman/ceramic coated for the Buick 215. I forget the part number, but if your really interested I can send you the part number(s)...For coated and non-coated. They ran about $300 coated and $120 not.

Serious One
08-21-2002, 10:12 AM
D,

I ceramic coated the Ram's Horn exhaust headers on the crewcab hoping to keep the ambient temps down in the cab.

did you notice a difference?

I am needing to do something on the Serious One, and was thinking of ceramic coating the y-pipe and headers. I'll need the insulation in the heat down here.

RockRover
08-21-2002, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by merv
Not too bad, for a Land Rover :flipoff2:

Not wantin to dis it, but if you get a nudge on the front unicorn bar, and it flexes at all it will destroy the wings if it flexes at all?

Nope. Stop now and start again.

Do you want me to take this one off your hands? :-)

Hee, hee hee! And you thought I was kidding when I was pontificating about my "plans" during the raffel/BBQ in Cruses eh?

That 'unicorn' bar isn't going anywere. The primary tubes (that go through the wings) are tied to the frame outriggers...The shocks mount to that...Then there will be a secondary support from the primary down to the frame (at the shock)...The two primaries will be tied together via a cross-over over the engine. All of the above is .120 x 1.75 DOM...Not to mention I have approx 3/8ths" cut around the wings to clear the tubes.

Besides I've been contimplateing removing the wings anyway :eek: and building some 1.5" DOM fender wings to help narrow the beast. However, for the time being (until I do mash them) the rig will remain as Rover as I can keep her.

--D

RockRover
08-21-2002, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by Serious One
D,

I ceramic coated the Ram's Horn exhaust headers on the crewcab hoping to keep the ambient temps down in the cab.

did you notice a difference?

I am needing to do something on the Serious One, and was thinking of ceramic coating the y-pipe and headers. I'll need the insulation in the heat down here.

I didn't notice a difference because I didn't run them non-coated to begin with...And I didn't notice a difference from the cast manifolds either...Other than an increase in torque and HP (contrary to what MANY people think about headers in a rock-crawler).

If I were you I would wrap your y-pipe and such now that your in the desert. Coatings are nice, and efficient, but not as good as a quality header wrap from any number of places....Besides, at the y-pipe you'll never see it.

--D

J bradley
08-21-2002, 10:42 AM
You said "all 4's" but I only see 2 ... give us the full monty shots ya teaser
:flipoff2:

Way
08-21-2002, 10:43 AM
WOW! Very Nice Work Doug! Obviosuly words cannot describe the hard work. Had a few questions out of curiosity.

1. Like the front coilovers. Why did you choose to rake them back. Was this for fitment or does this have an advantage. It appears in the picture that you coul dhave raised the front coilovers vertically a bit and made taller lower mounts so that you could have less clearance issues at the axle? Could you have? Will you share your coliover specs in the future when you get them dialed in the way you like them?

2. What are you planning to do for a mud sheild for the inner fender wells. Sheet metal, or leave them exposed?

3. Are you going to put a front diff ocver on that. A freind just got one for his rig (tha avalanche one) and it is really nice and well made FYI. What is your pinion degree at in the front? OVer 18?

4. Are you going to go with hydraulic bumpstops when you mount those limiting straps?

5. Who made the high steer arms? Haven't seen those before.

6. Dig the center link of what appears to be a 3-link design. Is that a skit plate grinding plate welded to it??? What does the crossmember end look like? Did you use the SG unit also?

You should throw a tac weld on all of your front u-joints.
Nice touch on the bend in the trac bar/panhard rod. Love the nose guard. You outdid yourself DOUG!!!!!!! Props.

Way

Michael what can you tell us about the new winch. I have seen the blank spot ads Warn has had in recent 4x4 mags. Looks like a new 9000lb.

Serious One
08-21-2002, 11:29 AM
Way,

Check out

www.warn.com

If you have any *specific* questions after reading the PR stuff, fire away! ;)

Way
08-21-2002, 11:50 AM
Michael the Warn pictures look great. Good work. The web site answered all questions. Thanks,

Way

Serious One
08-21-2002, 11:56 AM
Thx.

Jtisdale
08-21-2002, 11:59 AM
Doug-

It seems that few can invision something and make it happen(especially on your first build up), from the pics it looks like you've done that. Nice work, can't wait to hit the trail with ya!

Johnathan

RockRover
08-21-2002, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by Way


1. Like the front coilovers. Why did you choose to rake them back. Was this for fitment or does this have an advantage. It appears in the picture that you coul dhave raised the front coilovers vertically a bit and made taller lower mounts so that you could have less clearance issues at the axle? Could you have? Will you share your coliover specs in the future when you get them dialed in the way you like them?

I raked them back for a little extra travel. The other driver was the length issue that you mentioned. Initially I wanted to keep the shock down on the axle tube. Because I bought 2.5" bodied shocks there wasn't enough room to swing the steering lock to lock...In the front, back is okay.

2. What are you planning to do for a mud sheild for the inner fender wells. Sheet metal, or leave them exposed?[/B]

Mud? What's that? I don't do mud. Fun? Yes. Pain in the fawking ass? YES!

3. Are you going to put a front diff ocver on that. A freind just got one for his rig (tha avalanche one) and it is really nice and well made FYI. What is your pinion degree at in the front? OVer 18?[/B]

No. That's the 1/8th thick cover and should hold up well. I plan on shaving it soon, so I didn't get the Aval. guard. Check the pics of the rear diff (previous post) and you'll see I've got one for the rear.

The pinion sits right at 15deg.

4. Are you going to go with hydraulic bumpstops when you mount those limiting straps?[/B]

Naw...I'd like them, but at $150 a pop, it's really out of the budget right now. Nice poly's will do just fine.

5. Who made the high steer arms? Haven't seen those before.[/B]

Avalanche

6. Dig the center link of what appears to be a 3-link design. Is that a skit plate grinding plate welded to it??? What does the crossmember end look like? Did you use the SG unit also?[/B]

Yes it is. The link is built with 1.5" x .25" DOM and sleeved with 1.75" x .120...I then put a piece of 1.5 x 1.5 x 1/8th angle on the bottom to prevent (make sure) it will never bend. There is a 1 x 1.25" hiem at the diff, and a 3" x 3/4" JJ at the x-member. The x-member is 3/16ths x 3" box with 3/8ths mounting tabs...It also hangs about 2" lower than stock to help facilitate clearing a 1350 double cardon drive shaft.

You should throw a tac weld on all of your front u-joints. [/B]

Yea, I might. I dont' hear of 60 u-joint caps popping all that often...Especially with a whopping 160hp! :(

RockRover
08-21-2002, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by Jtisdale
Doug-

It seems that few can invision something and make it happen(especially on your first build up), from the pics it looks like you've done that. Nice work, can't wait to hit the trail with ya!

Johnathan

Thanks man. I look forward to it too. Maybe the Hammers in November?

--D

evilfij
08-21-2002, 06:45 PM
:flipoff2:

Ron

road1will
08-21-2002, 06:56 PM
hey ron, lets see some pics of that SII on portals youve been hiding from all of us!!!

Jtisdale
08-22-2002, 02:30 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by RockRover
[B]

Thanks man. I look forward to it too. Maybe the Hammers in November?


I've been dying to get an opportunity to hit the hammers, November is a bit of a stretch since I'm taking a week in sept to go to Moab(remember that I'm not in CO anymore and have to drive across the frickin' country to wheel:mad: ) It would be cool to get a group together and do a run like the quarterly but in JV.

Johnathan

RockRover
08-22-2002, 03:06 PM
That sounds cool too. I know Greg (sg) want's to organize a trip out there too. Hmmmm. I'll start the process.

--D

evilfij
08-22-2002, 05:06 PM
Got to get the rear on. And find a D90 MC and/or SIII pedal assembly (anyone?)

it looks kinda weird as it sits now.

Ron

RockRover
08-22-2002, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by evilfij
it looks kinda weird as it sits now.

Ron

Prove it FAWKER! :flipoff2:

road1will
08-22-2002, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by RockRover


Prove it FAWKER! :flipoff2:

yeah what HE said!!! :D

merv
08-23-2002, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by RockRover


Hee, hee hee! And you thought I was kidding when I was pontificating about my "plans" during the raffel/BBQ in Cruses eh?



Besides I've been contimplateing removing the wings anyway :eek: and building some 1.5" DOM fender wings to help narrow the beast. However, for the time being (until I do mash them) the rig will remain as Rover as I can keep her.

--D

Yup, I was wondering what ya was thinking :rolleyes: But now that I see it, Damn!

And have to keep the wings! as she stands it looks like, like, err, like a D90 on steroids I guess. Fkn A! If you change the wings, it wont look like a d90 (to the great unwashed anyway).

Next time my D90 gets stuck, I'm going to show it a picture of yours and threaten it with a few trips to the Gym!

:flipoff2:

Strange Rover
08-23-2002, 04:45 AM
Holey phucken dooley.

I go on holidays for a week and this happens.

Awsome Doug. Absolutely awsome. First class effort. Its looks a really balanced design and great execution, I carnt pick a thing wrong with it. Looks really solid.

Great stuff.

I hope you didnt sit down and look at it for to long - you know you gotta keep working.

:beer:

Sam

sprueitt
08-23-2002, 07:28 AM
Wow Doug! Very impressive job!! That Rig looks like a rock eatin', cliff climbing, soon to be king of the hill to me!! Excellent! Give me a call when you want to do some local wheelin and you can give me some pointers in the big rocks. Later!

RockRover
08-23-2002, 09:38 AM
Thanks guy's...And no the motivation isn't wayning...It's just that I'm not burning until midnight on week-day's anymore...Gotta' keep my head off the desk at work lately!

Stan! Welcome to the dark-side! For those who don't know Stan, he's the OWNER of Daniels Dodge 6x6 creation...Just happens to be a co-worker of mine as well.

Stan, shoot us some pics of your rig on all 6 38.5' SX's! I betcha it's looking killer.

--D

sprueitt
08-23-2002, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by RockRover
Thanks guy's...And no the motivation isn't wayning...It's just that I'm not burning until midnight on week-day's anymore...Gotta' keep my head off the desk at work lately!

Stan! Welcome to the dark-side! For those who don't know Stan, he's the OWNER of Daniels Dodge 6x6 creation...Just happens to be a co-worker of mine as well.

Stan, shoot us some pics of your rig on all 6 38.5' SX's! I betcha it's looking killer.

--D

I'll send you some pictures soon as I am done with some modifications to the front end. The 38's are on Hummer Rims with internal bead locks. These are the easiest rims to work with. I highly recommend them. I will post some pictures soon as I am done on: www.urbansurvivors.com

Once again Awsome job on your Rig!

evilfij
08-23-2002, 06:19 PM
You guys will have to wait til MAR to see it.

:)

Ron

PIG
08-25-2002, 09:31 PM
NICE..........:D

m016324
08-26-2002, 10:23 PM
incredible doug very nice work and I do hope that it's all together and driving soon. However we were talking about it a couple of days ago at Bill's house and were all laughing at how funny it would be for you to get caught up on your sway bar mounts after all the work you've done:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

-ben

RockRover
08-27-2002, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by m016324
Bill's house and were all laughing at how funny it would be for you to get caught up on your sway bar mounts after all the work you've done:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

-ben

Hey! Those are my header-tube protectors! :flipoff2:

--D

rockmutt
08-27-2002, 09:14 PM
dooood!! you bought that rover totaled right? you didnt do that to a perfectly good rover.....did you....:eek: :eek:

JoshC
08-27-2002, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by peeJ
dooood!! you bought that rover totaled right? you didnt do that to a perfectly good rover.....did you....:eek: :eek:

Yeah I know. I don't know why anybody would actually build their rig? :rolleyes:

tomw
08-28-2002, 12:54 AM
Man Doug,
I just barely get my 37's sorted out, and you have to go and do something like that! Make me start thinking about combining the series, my spare built 3.5L , a sawzall and some tubing!

How bout some shots of that awesome tub from the back!

RockRover
08-28-2002, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by peeJ
dooood!! you bought that rover totaled right? you didnt do that to a perfectly good rover.....did you....:eek: :eek:


Totaled no...Perfectly good? That's a stretch.

I don't know if anyone told you or not PeeJ, but Defender 90's suck in stock form :flipoff2:

RockRover
08-28-2002, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by tomw
How bout some shots of that awesome tub from the back!

Okay...Here are some shot's of the rear (far from finished)...They were taken prior to starting the front (mid-June). Nothing's changed much, but it will after this 4-day weekend.

--D

RockRover
08-28-2002, 09:57 AM
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08-28-2002, 09:59 AM
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