i just wanted to let everyone know i own a company called aggressive offroad.i just designed a new beadlock and im starting production.the 15s are 36 bolt and the rings are 1/2 in. 6061 aluminum.im also making 16.5s that are 40 bolt,and yes the inner safety bead issue is resolved.i just competed in the nwrca with them and they did very well.if you have any questions you can call me at 360-629-8136 or you can email me your # and ill call you but my email wont go out <IMG SRC="smilies/blush2.gif" border="0"> .ill try to post some pictures but im really bad at it.<IMG width=640 height=480 SRC="http://www.pirate4x4.com/ubb/uploads/1015.jpg"> <IMG width=640 height=480 SRC="http://www.pirate4x4.com/ubb/uploads/1013.jpg">

just a note they come plain aluminum in color i painted mine red.im trying to resize a pic that shows them unpainted.let me know what you guys think!! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

stylin'! well....let me be the first to ask...how much?

my only QUESTION is $$$$$$$ 15x10 cheapest one U SELL <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

whats the 16.5 price?

How much for 16.5 x12 8 lug? Just how is the inner bead addressed? <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0">

Originally posted by SeaBass44:
<STRONG>my only QUESTION is $$$$$$$ 15x10 cheapest one U SELL <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

I need five of these, too. How 'bout total with shipping to Dallas?

hell yeah id get some 16.5's. look cool! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

here at pirate4x4.com we do not allow vendors to advertise so send me a set and I will gladly to a product review <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

I gotta ask, can you get the rings without the funky bolt grooves? I'd definatley be interested in some 16.5's

wow i didnt expect such a response so fast.tell ya what ill work a special pirate bb member price for the month of oct.im still a little fuzzy on my total cost as there are still a few details to work out.basically theyll be in between trail ready and mrts price somewheres.ill nail a final price tonight and post it.the 16.5s will cost a little more as they are more expensive to manufacture.the inner bead gets a steel band that acts as a safety bead.ill try to get some pics of that.

Originally posted by Brandon:
<STRONG>here at pirate4x4.com we do not allow vendors to advertise so send me a set and I will gladly to a product review <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

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let me say they are beefy, might have to get myself a set when the $$$ is there...

soon as you figure a price (take your time, nobody here wants to screw you) let us know

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Originally posted by BIGFECK:
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Damn LOL

Damn! Where were you last week? I just bought some King beadlocks. had I known, I'd have bought yours.

Originally posted by Brandon:
<STRONG>here at pirate4x4.com we do not allow vendors to advertise so send me a set and I will gladly to a product review <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

Since I was the first customer of his to buy a set, maybe I'll just do a product review for him........... I'm just trying to save you some time B.

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Right Awn, Gabe!
They look like they can handle the abuse, and I love the 36 bolts(except when Im mounting the tires).
With the 8 lug axles getting ready to be swapped, it was time for new wheels anyway.
Ill get a hold of you as soon as I get back from the hammers.
We can see how well they hold up at CalRocs.

o.k. heres the deal through the month of october all registered pirate bb members ill sell the 15x10s for 200.00 apiece plus tax and shipping also the 16.5x9.75s will be 225.00 apiece plus tax and shipping.the price will go up after the end of the month.fair?ill set the backspace wherever you want it.these rings are expensive to buy and machine.thats where the bulk of the price comes from.they are tough as hell tho.let me know whatcha think.

[ 10-09-2001: Message edited by: BIGFECK ]

those are SWEET! I dig them, and Id buy a set if my HEEP wasnt my daily driver... Very very nice.
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Originally posted by BIGFECK:
<STRONG>o.k. heres the deal through the month of october all registered pirate bb members ill sell the 15x10s for 200.00 apiece plus tax and shipping also the 16.5x9.75s will be 225.00 apiece plus tax and shipping.the price will go up after the end of the month.fair?ill set the backspace wherever you want it.these rings are expensive to buy and machine.thats where the bulk of the price comes from.they are tough as hell tho.let me know whatcha think.

[ 10-09-2001: Message edited by: BIGFECK ]</STRONG>
do we have to pay tax, typically you dont when shipping to out of state?

Originally posted by Patman:
<STRONG>I gotta ask, can you get the rings without the funky bolt grooves? I'd definatley be interested in some 16.5's</STRONG>
umm yeahh what he said....

How wide of a tire can you put on the 16.5?? 9.75 doesn't seem that wide of a rim. Just think of the grooves as "traction enhancers" on the rocks. If you groove tires now you can groove rocks!!! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Craig

would they be cheaper to make if you didnt machine those grooves into them? maybe just countersunk the bolt heads.... definalty look cool and beefy but I'm poor

15x10 18 bolt MRT's are $148 a piece before shipping and the 36 bolts are $198 a piece before shipping. So you are right in line with MRT for thier 36 bolt.

maybe im looking at the wrong mrt website but it says their 18 bolts are 170 and the 36 bolts are 217 before shipping.before i started building mine i tried to get a quantity break and they wouldnt even do that.mine are not available without the machined grooves,thats there to protect the bolts they are sunk in the groove.i knew not everyone would be a fan.but i like em <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> .ill check into the tax thing if i dont have to charge it for out of state i wont.

Originally posted by CrazyCraig:
<STRONG>How wide of a tire can you put on the 16.5?? 9.75 doesn't seem that wide of a rim. Just think of the grooves as "traction enhancers" on the rocks. If you groove tires now you can groove rocks!!! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Craig</STRONG>
those were designed to be traction enhancement <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> .and i can build 12 wide if you dont want 9.75s

Very interested but can't swing it before the end of October so how much after? Gonna get some smack over this but what wheels do ya start with?

Originally posted by racinhound-Dale:
<STRONG>Very interested but can't swing it before the end of October so how much after? Gonna get some smack over this but what wheels do ya start with?</STRONG>i think theyll end up in the 215 range .unless i can find cheaper aluminum.one thing i can promise everyone is customer service is my number one goal.i know what its like to be screwed out of your hard earned money and i dont wanna see that happen to anyone.itll be hard at first because im going into this with no idea how popular these will be if they are at all.but im ready to take whatever steps are neccisary to keep it running smooth.im working on a wheel manufacturer right now and if i can swing it ill be offering cooler centers than the ordinary wagon or mod.i should know in the morning if ill be using that company.for you guys that dont like the steps in the wheel,if you dont paint them they look totally different im trying to get a picture of that on here.hell i even had neckster here trying to figure out this joke ass computer.
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[ 10-09-2001: Message edited by: BIGFECK ]

o.k. i did it heres a few more shots<IMG width=533 height=400 SRC="http://www.pirate4x4.com/ubb/uploads/1010.jpg"> <IMG width=533 height=400 SRC="http://www.pirate4x4.com/ubb/uploads/1014.jpg"> <IMG width=533 height=400 SRC="http://www.pirate4x4.com/ubb/uploads/blocl.jpg">

just one question, might be stupid, but ive seen aluminum wheels break, and i figure aluminum rings could too, how much would you charge for just a ring, if i broke one?

Sorry I was refering to the 16.5's.....

Originally posted by rokcrawla:
<STRONG>just one question, might be stupid, but ive seen aluminum wheels break, and i figure aluminum rings could too, how much would you charge for just a ring, if i broke one?</STRONG>
without completely sticking my foot in my mouth,i would say it would be free.ive seen alot of companies wish they wouldnt have said that,but i just cant imagine breaking one of these.this is not an open invitation to see if you can break one but youll have to work your ass off to do it.so that kind of resolve would probably deserve a free ring.ive broken aluminum wheels too but they were only 1/8 inch thick where they broke.

Originally posted by racinhound-Dale:
<STRONG>Sorry I was refering to the 16.5's.....</STRONG>oh,im guessing around 240.00 for those.im telling you guys im a cheap ass too,so ill keep the price as low as possible

Is there any way you could modify the rims I have now? I think they are Bart 16.5x 12. If not how much more for 12s instead of 9.75s. Also are you going to be doing the credit card thing? Thanks. PTO DAVE <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

I definetly like em. I will look u up when the D60's are ready. I do have a few q's.
Is the wheel steel and the ring the aluminum part? <IMG SRC="smilies/emb.gif" border="0"> . Any extra charges for different lug patterens? I would need 8 lug, but for everyone else? When the Pirate member deal is over, Is there going to be any extra charge for a special off-set? Definetly check on that tax thing, people from out of state shouldn't have to pay tax.

Right on man, They did work well at the comp, I'll probly hook up for a set later on, when the $ isn't so tight. I like the grooves" they grip the rocks better" <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

very kewl looking... I'm starting a new sammy project since I just sold my sammy.... so when I'm ready for wheels I'll be looking into it... how much for shipping to canada by the way?

Originally posted by rokcrawla:
<STRONG>just one question, might be stupid, but ive seen aluminum wheels break, and i figure aluminum rings could too, how much would you charge for just a ring, if i broke one?</STRONG>
i have alluminum ringed beadlocks right now and i cant even bend them and they have be well used.... that shits tuff at the right thickness..... i think youll be ok with that kinda garuntee........ other than an actual collision i dont see them breakin.....

how easy are they to install, my trail readys are a mother... is there a centering ring?

im definately gonna support your business... 16.5 8 lugs just not during the speacial.
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o.k. ill try to answer everything,ricktard yes the outer ring is the only thing thats aluminum although i have been kicking around building some all aluminum models.the price stays the same no matter what lug pattern or backspace.pto dave id rather not do used wheels,but i need to get some of these sets out so people can see them so email me your number and well talk.badassjeepguy theyre actually not bad to install,i know where your coming from on the tr's mine self center and arent that hard to install or remove.
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[ 10-10-2001: Message edited by: BIGFECK ]

will you be offering a 16 or 17 inch rim in the future? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Originally posted by RocnWilly:
<STRONG>will you be offering a 16 or 17 inch rim in the future? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"></STRONG>if there is a demand ill be doing 16s for sure,ive had a few requests but no solid buyers.

Better do 17's too. A lot of the ARCA guys are going with 17's.

Originally posted by Lance:
<STRONG>Better do 17's too. A lot of the ARCA guys are going with 17's.</STRONG>show me the money baby!!!!!!!basically if three or more people are serious about any size ill make em

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I sent you an E-Mail. Thanks. <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0">

I think they look fine. Too bad I dont have a grand laying around. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

I would like a set but right now not enought horsepower in the wallet. Sorry, I'll have to wait.

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Originally posted by BIGFECK:
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Cool. now those are ring gears out of a mining truck, right? <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

Joe

Wow - I can't believe I missed this thread <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0">

A couple of questions...

Do you hav any pics AFTER they ahve been used on the trail? I know my MRT's are pretty scraped up around the bead area - I would like to see how those ribs look after some good rash.

Also, do you have any plans to alter the machining of the outer rings later? I am still not sure if I like them like that, but they are growin' on me <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

Would you sell the wheels without the outer ring and let the customer supply his own?

Thanks - and good luck in your business! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

David..... or anyone else..... I know that Bigfeck's computer crashed the other day and it is going to be about a week or so before he's back online (I thik). Anyway, you can give him a call if you'd like more info.

360-629-8136

Originally posted by NECKSTER:
<STRONG>David..... or anyone else..... I know that Bigfeck's computer crashed the other day and it is going to be about a week or so before he's back online (I thik). Anyway, you can give him a call if you'd like more info.

360-629-8136</STRONG>

Thanks Neckster - I may just do that <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

Hey, is this guy (BigFeck) still around? I tried calling a couple times with no answer or answering machine.
Anyhow, I'm interested in those wheels.

I talked to him this morning and he said to go ahead and give his cell phone a try.

425-754-2098

sorry everyone!! i was having troubles with the answering machine.its fixed now.my dsl is still jacked,hopefully theyll have that fixed in the next few days.im sorry if ive missed any calls.like neckster said 425-754-2098 is my cell feel free to call that.or 360-629-8136 the machine is fixed.hungryjpr,i got your money your,im just waiting on wheels they should be here by the end of the week.thanks everyone for your patience.

Gabe give me a call or an email so we can talk I think I can help you out.
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