: setting up steering, toe in Q?


liveaxle
08-21-2002, 11:47 PM
I put a Dana 44 under the front of my Toyota and now I need to adjust adjust the tie rod. I remeber reading somewhere that its good to start with the wheels pointing in or out (I can't remeber which) just a little bit. I assume this is what is called to in/toe out? Anyway, just to get my things in the ballpark I was wondering which direction I should have the wheels, splayed out in front or splayed in in the front?



thanks,

:cool:

cj7traildriver
08-22-2002, 12:02 AM
Toe in, in otherwords pointing inward but not much at all like total toe in 1 degree which is .5 degree each wheel. I would take it to a alignment shop they have acurate equipment to measure it and should only be around 30 bucks at most that's if you drive on highways and want tire life. If you do go by route of measureing measure off rim not tire. Think by form of inches toe in may be like 1/8 inch to 1/4 inch just guessing.

coiledbj42
08-22-2002, 02:24 AM
1/8 or 1/16 is ok. It is easy to do.

just jack the front off the ground. Put a mark on each tyre. Put the marks at the front, then measure. Rotate marks to the back, measure. The front measurement should be about 1/8 or so less than the back.

withamc
08-22-2002, 06:36 AM
Unless you've got the money to burn, I wouldn't pay a shop to align a leaf sprung solid axle. Like they said, make the front measurement 1/16" - 1/8" less than the rear and go with it.

redrangie
08-22-2002, 07:58 AM
whoa!

before you do that, what is the amount that the rig is on road?

j

hip
08-22-2002, 09:18 AM
i read 1/16 to 1/8" for 35" tires and down, 1/8 to 1/4" for 36" and above. both are tow/in....

Keith
08-22-2002, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by coiledbj42
1/8 or 1/16 is ok. It is easy to do.

just jack the front off the ground. Put a mark on each tyre. Put the marks at the front, then measure. Rotate marks to the back, measure. The front measurement should be about 1/8 or so less than the back.

I would not do it on jackstands. Go to a spot where you have enough distance to roll the rig a few rotations of the tires. Then do like coiled said. Make a mark on each tire from the front, measure, roll forward until the marks are at the rear, measure again. Keep doing this in the forward direction until you get the measurements you want.

Toy 4Runner Man
08-22-2002, 10:41 PM
You could always do like some of the race car guys do. Jack it up just a bit, and paint a strip all the way around the tire. after it dries, take a flat blade screwdriver, and spin the tire and make a single line all the way around the tire surface. Do this on both tires, and there is no need to roll the truck back and forth. Just measure the lines on the front of the tire, and then the back. Easy enough :flipoff2:

GRMhick
08-25-2002, 12:45 AM
what about the $12 harbor freight allignment tool? couldnt you use that, but take th wheels off and use the rotors to make sure it is straight, and just measure it? seems easy enough to me.

JEEP_TJ_FREAK
08-25-2002, 06:45 AM
Here ya go, easy enough....

http://jeepwrangler.info/Tech/brakesandsteering/images/Overtech_toeset_1.jpg

http://jeepwrangler.info/Tech/brakesandsteering/images/Overtech_toeset_2.jpg


http://jeepwrangler.info/Tech/brakesandsteering/images/Overtech_toeset_3.jpg


http://jeepwrangler.info/Tech/brakesandsteering/images/Overtech_toeset_4.jpg

Images courtesy of Dave aka OverTech

withamc
08-25-2002, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by JEEP_TJ_FREAK
Here ya go, easy enough....

That's how I've been doing mine for years, except I use jackstands on both side to make sure the bar is level.

SJM
08-25-2002, 09:50 AM
Yup... that's how I do it also. No abnormal tire wear. My front D44 from an early bronco also had a built in from the factory 2.5 degree camber problem. I purchased some 2.5 degree "ring" shims from NAPA (freakin $25 a piece) that went behind the spindle and corrected that problem.

--Steve