: f150 hits puberty


Wes Mhantooth
01-28-2009, 07:18 AM
So here's what i got:
86 f150 (my father bought it brand new)
good ol I6 (now fuel injected)
np 435

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It fought a lexis last year, and bent up the front suspension. So i grabbed a Dana 60 and Sterling 10.25 from a 86 f350.

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And the tear down begins...

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Wes Mhantooth
01-28-2009, 07:36 AM
Its funny. You dont realized the gravity of one ton axels...... until you have to move them yourself

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Revenant
01-28-2009, 04:27 PM
I know how hard that is to do by yourself and without a lift, outside no less! Looking good.

I know the TTB was bent up, but I was wondering if you still have it around? I'm in need of the spacer/coil mount between the coil and TTB beam on the driver's side (shorter of the two). PM me if I can have it (I would, of course pay shipping).

Thanks and keep us updated on the swap.

93 FORD BRONCO
01-28-2009, 06:07 PM
Its funny. You dont realized the gravity of one ton axels...... until you have to move them yourself

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in the first picture i noticed the yolke on the dif isnt usuall from what ive seen is that custom how the uv joint would have been held on with that u-bolt cause i recently broke the yolke on my bronco and have been looking for a way to fix it and that looks pretty effective

Wes Mhantooth
01-28-2009, 06:26 PM
nope. its like that from the factory. I know what your talking about though. Iv see some weird set ups. unfortunately i dont know much about your options. but hell anything is possible

Wes Mhantooth
01-29-2009, 07:14 AM
So I smartened up over the years. Iv come to the conclusion that its winter… and that means cold. So I called up a few buddy’s and we moved the axels into my basement. I threw together a little work bench that I can set the rears on to be worked on. This made disassembly comfortable and enjoyable.

Side note: Moving one ton axels down cellar steps is not even some what easy. I don’t care if you can bench 300++…. IT STILL SUCKS!

And thanks matt for the engine hoist!

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xltbeast
01-29-2009, 02:51 PM
Basement was deffinatly the right Idea. Didn't your area just get an assload of snow?

Wes Mhantooth
01-29-2009, 03:13 PM
We did get about four inches. normaly we just get really really cold rain.... that freezes after it hits the ground lol

NetBSD
01-29-2009, 03:24 PM
We did get about four inches. normaly we just get really really cold rain.... that freezes after it hits the ground lol

you got lucky, we got 6-7" and i had to work under a 1985 CH mack today. me and my boss looked like the 3 stoodges trying to walk around with the ice ontop of the snow :shaking:

GONRACIN
01-29-2009, 04:01 PM
I hear the 300ci is a good ol' motor...looks good so far...

93 FORD BRONCO
01-29-2009, 04:14 PM
nope. its like that from the factory. I know what your talking about though. Iv see some weird set ups. unfortunately i dont know much about your options. but hell anything is possible

thats interesting do you think that would work like homemade what size u-bolts are those????

Wes Mhantooth
01-29-2009, 04:52 PM
thats interesting do you think that would work like homemade what size u-bolts are those????
I wouldnt suggest that....

maybe go to the junk yard and pull out a yoke out of something compatible?

f250rollinon37s
01-29-2009, 06:50 PM
looks good so far - what springs ? 4" superflex ?



a note of advice on the basement, watch the sparks from the grinder with all that wood and wood dust UNDER your home. as we would hate to see a living in my truck build thread


now carry on :D

Wes Mhantooth
02-01-2009, 05:20 PM
looks good so far - what springs ? 4" superflex ?



a note of advice on the basement, watch the sparks from the grinder with all that wood and wood dust UNDER your home. as we would hate to see a living in my truck build thread


now carry on :D
not sure on length yet, i kind of have to roll with the punches. i just want my bumper to be below 30 inches. its Pa state law, and a good idea.

i got the truck weighed before i ripped it apart (front, back, both sides, and just the rear with the front end lifted up 24 inches by the contact patches). So I took that information an figured i would go with a linier 250 lb spring rate.

If any of you get the chance to get all of those measurements, you can figure out your center of gravity. This link will walk you through it. http://www.jeepaholics.com/tech/cog/

O and thanks for the reminder, iv been meaning to tidy up down their. Wood and sparks don’t mix well.

Wes Mhantooth
02-01-2009, 05:58 PM
So hears a little up date:
CCOR hooked me up with a great deal on a powr-lok and master rebuild kit.

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the manuals are off of ebay, i figured it couldnt hurt.

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After the axel was broken down and a little more manageable, I brought it back out to the truck. I set it in place, matched my pinion angle, and checked my caster. That matched up nicely so there is no need to do a cut and turn.

I also took measurements on the frame width and how far out the coil buckets sat out. I then took it back down stairs. I found center and measured out to where the coils would have to sit.

Being that I am in a wood shop and all, I grabbed some quarter inch scraps and made a mock up of most of my brackets. I then gave them to my buddy Jim, who CNC burned them out for me

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jim hooked me up with the cold rolled... sweet

Wes Mhantooth
02-03-2009, 10:30 AM
Yesterday I set the axel on the bench so I could work on one end. I decided it was best to start with the hard end. I made a quick little jig that holds the axel dead level and on the correct caster.

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I had to reinstall the whole driver side hub assembly, and through a tire on it. All just to measure how far the tire turns before it hits the stop. I also measured off the tire to make
It would clear bigger tires. It was a total pain in the ass, but now I know my link angle.

After a cleaning up the mounts I tacked the front two on with the tops level, then welded them up.

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I want my lower link to be low, which would make it easier to get a decent amount of vertical separation between the two. I did not want a rock anchor however. So I brought the bottom of my link mount flush to the bottom of the plate. Then turned it inward 10 degrees.

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A little rusty on my geometry… I managed to screw this two step process up lol. By turning the link tab down 45* and then inward 10*, you are tuning 10* off of the 45. Giving you this result.

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As you can see… that angle is whacked. Not to mention that the their is not enough room for a bushing.

O yeah I don’t have my link bushings yet, so I looked up the dimensions and turned some mock ups.

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After a few attempts, I smartened up and made a 10* jig.

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