Ok guys, since the Montrose deal has gone up in smoke some of us TX guys are heading to MOAB. We will be arriving in Moab Thursday afternoon, the 12th and leaving Monday the 16th. Would love to have some company.. so far its just 2 rigs right now..I know someone is heading that way or would enjoy some good excitement.

WHO's IN???
P.S. I know none of you girls have anything better to do so bring your shiat out and run with me :flipoff2:....we have reservations at the Riverside Oasis..see link below... there in Moab if ya want to join in...

i will be there sat morning on the 14th.where can i meet yall at?

i guess there at the camp ground where we are staying..where abouts are you going to stay....i will be in the big ass gunmetal gray cruiser, ya cant miss it..

Bill, shooting a reply from the other post, you said you were headed to montrose, was that a typo... or are you going to come over from montrose and meet up with us...how may days you plan on staying...

We will be staying Riverside Oasis.
http://moab-utah.com/riversideoasis/index.html
the cabins are $40 per night for two...

hey tyzm, thanks for the update....ok guys we are staying at the above link....
c'mon guys

Originally posted by TYZM
We will be staying Riverside Oasis.
http://moab-utah.com/riversideoasis/index.html
the cabins are $40 per night for two...

just so ya know --hte owner of that place is a fawkin jerk..

so don't plan on telling any people who aren';t staying there to meet you..

anyways..go by napa and ask for hte younger guy there (white yota) his name is derrick..or Moab Offroad for me (austin) maybe we can hok up and go wheelin with you all..


have a safe trip....
Later

Originally posted by Moab Austin


just so ya know --hte owner of that place is a fawkin jerk..

so don't plan on telling any people who aren';t staying there to meet you..

anyways..go by napa and ask for hte younger guy there (white yota) his name is derrick..or Moab Offroad for me (austin) maybe we can hok up and go wheelin with you all..


have a safe trip....
Later
Emailed ya..your PM box is FULL :D

Originally posted by rockbiter
Bill, shooting a reply from the other post, you said you were headed to montrose, was that a typo... or are you going to come over from montrose and meet up with us...how may days you plan on staying... hey rockbiter,i will have friends and family camping in the uncompagre nat.forest bowhunting already.it is between montrose and moab,but i will go there first to drop off some stuff and maybe sleep,then come on over to moab...

Originally posted by rockbiter
i guess there at the camp ground where we are staying..where abouts are you going to stay....i will be in the big ass gunmetal gray cruiser, ya cant miss it.. i will have my tent with me,not sure where i will stay.but i am on vacation so i will be around all week and 2 weekends:D ...

Check your other post

I'll be there that weekend. I may be camping in the middle of Golden Spike on Thursday night, but we'll be in town by Friday for sure. Not sure where to stay as we are still unsure how man people we have coming along.

What trails are you looking to run?

Cody

not sure what trails we are going to hit, we want to make it memorable though....any suggestions....we will probably hit something moderate on friday and make sure our shit holds together and then hit the harder stuff saturday and sunday.... if you know the area, man come run us through the ringer....got any suggestions, maybe that will be another post in a couple of days;)

hey Austin, i will do that, man why do people have to fawker's... maybe we should rethink the meeting point to the local grocery store, what ya think... never been to the area, so you guys that have help me out here....

Most people use the City Market as a meeting place.

The first day we will also be running something moderate. We're trying to finish up a 350, d44/12 blt into a YJ thing right now and it'll be the maiden voyage for that rig. Maybe something like Hells Revenge or Metal Masher for starters.

Saturday and Sunday we will most likely run Pritchett Canyon one day and hopefully Lower Helldorado or Rusty Nail on sunday before we head out.

Cody

tell me what time to meet at the market and we'll be there.... those are the same runs we are considering....lets join up, it should be interesting to say the least.... you think a tj locked front and rear with 33's can handle the harder runs???

Originally posted by rockbiter
hey Austin, i will do that, man why do people have to fawker's... maybe we should rethink the meeting point to the local grocery store, what ya think... never been to the area, so you guys that have help me out here....

Yeah - alot of people use City Market for meeting place...

it seems alot of board members do to...its central in town and there is always jeeps in the southwest corner...


I am checking my box and email...

us locals might have to work on friday...so its weekend or night run!

so what do you think Austin about my buddies TJ, what runs should he stay away from??

the trails mentioned above, Pritchett- lowerhelldorado-Rustynail is about as hard as a TJ will do...


rustynail will be a bitch - pritchett and rusty will prolly need a strap up one obstacle each..

but its doable

not sure when i will be there,maybe friday evening or sat.morning.if i come in friday do you think i can get a motel room?or a camp spot with showers?does any one know how far it is from colombine pass co.to moab?that is where we will be camping during the week.and post a time and place to meet in the mornings,thanks...

I know the place we are staying has tent spots available with showers, etc. I think it was pretty reasonable.. click on the link above... dont know where columbine pass is, is it close to a town...
looks like the city market is where we should meet every morning. dont know what time though.... i know the earlier the better....

A couple of us from Dove Creek my be in moab that sunday. Rockbiter and Bill what time are you guys meeting at city market?

yes it sounds like the city market would be the best place to meet.colombine pass is between montrose and moab in the national forest,but it is mostly mountains roads untill you get to utah.i think i will just come on to moab friday evening and fine a place to sleep:D

say, would 8 am be too early for everyone to meet at the market or is it not early enough...???? Input

Originally posted by rockbiter
say, would 8 am be too early for everyone to meet at the market or is it not early enough...???? Input no later than 8:00 for sure,unless it is alot cooler than here in texas...

hell, i could go alot earlier if ya want... to us TX boys 7 am is really 8 am for us due to the time change...I just checked moab's avg. temps for the year and it says september is around 87 for the high and 57 for the low... right now its 86 degrees.... looks real nice...if you want to meet earlier for a full full day of wheeling, lets meet earlier, i am game.... yall tell me...

if i could make over to moab friday,that would be great.my uncle may be with me,can he ride his four-wheeler on the trials too?

I think a locked tj on 33's will fare fine. I'm open front and rear and on 33's and I havn't had too many problems. Moab is wheelbase friendly though.

I'm only hoping to do Rusty Nail, I don't know how to get to it. I have good directions to Helldorodo and I know the general area of that trail. I've done Pritchett before so that's no problem to find.

Like I said, If we make it down early we're going to head into Golden Spike and camp so I wouldn't be around to meet on Friday morning. I won't know for sure for a few more days.

8 a.m. man that hurts just thinking about it. I'm not sure if I'll be sober enough to drive by then. How bout 1:30? ----- I guess if ya'll want 8 am then that'll work, but you're going to be dealing with a bunch of angry tired hung over folks on the trail. ;)

Cody

so Grocery, just checked out your pics, so which one is yours and who's grand is running the boggers, what size are those...

Mine is the one in the "my ZJ " folder. the most recent pics are in "Cage etc."

The boggered Zj belongs to a guy named Travis from back east. They are 37" boggers and he's running 12-14" of lift. This spring I'll have my 37" MTR's on w/ 4.5" lift. Less tippy.

Cody

Guys I am planning on being there Friday the 13th late. I am planning on running Lower Helldorado and then over to Upper on Saturday, I will be riding my mtn bike Sunday. I would love to have someone join, as I really don't want to run upper alone. Anyhow, I have a white SAS 4runner with no doors and a full exo on 37" MTR's, and yes City Market is the place to meet up, very central right on main street and easy to see, plenty of parking.

BTW Austin-finally got my winch figured out, it was in fact the solonoid. F-150 starter solonoids don't work, I bought the Warn version and it works great now.

Jeremy

i am sure we will have a 4-wheeler rider or 2 that might could join you when you ride your bike...

but noone to wheel with?

8 am is good it has cooled off a little this last week. Bill if you go to Naturita you can catch a highway to moab by way of the paradox highway 90 which comes out south of moab about 22 miles. you have to go north out of Naturita a few miles on highway 141 to get to highway 90.

thanks rick,i know where you are talking about.looked on the map and it will be my shortest way.i am gonna try to get to moab fri.night,if not i will find the meeting place before 8:00 a.m. on sat.morning...

kimmel
I am totally up for upper helldorado, but i traveling with some friends and he doesnt want to punish his TJ... so i was thinking about loading them up and hitting upper on sunday if we could find some others to run... ride your bike on saturday;)

damn this has turned into a good thread... boys, I look forward to meeting you all ....

Originally posted by J Kimmel
Guys I am planning on being there Friday the 13th late. I am planning on running Lower Helldorado and then over to Upper on Saturday, I will be riding my mtn bike Sunday. I would love to have someone join, as I really don't want to run upper alone. Anyhow, I have a white SAS 4runner with no doors and a full exo on 37" MTR's, and yes City Market is the place to meet up, very central right on main street and easy to see, plenty of parking.

BTW Austin-finally got my winch figured out, it was in fact the solonoid. F-150 starter solonoids don't work, I bought the Warn version and it works great now.

Jeremy

cool..fawk sorry I missed ya hte rest of hte trip down here..that whole week sucked for me...

hey we might be having a night wheeling thingy for the 13th....I will let everyone know

:D

if you do the night thing,are yall still gonna meet at the city market?i am gonna try to make on to moab friday evening...

so what do you run at night, that sounds like alot of fun... more info...:eek:
hey Bill, just call and make some tent reservations at the place we are staying... make hooken up alot easier..

hmmmm....well I could do upper on Sunday, the problem is, I plan on heading home that day. It could take a few hours it could take all day. I know I can ride Porcupine Rim on my mtn bike in two hours. Austin let me know on the night thing, think I'll be there for that.

bump

any more board members want to join,could make it a big turnout...

So what trails will you guys be running on saturday and sunday.

Originally posted by zukstur
So what trails will you guys be running on saturday and sunday.

Rockbiter if you are taking 666 throught Dove Creek and want to stop by e-mail me and ill give you my phone #.

hope to see you guys on saturday.

Originally posted by zukstur
So what trails will you guys be running on saturday and sunday. hey rick,i am gonna follow the leader.i have never been on nothing but flatland:eek: .so your gonna be there sat.and sun?

hey rick,do you know if camping is still open in the nat.forest?or is it to dry?

Bill in the san juans they opened up the camping a few weeks back but you still can't have a camp fire. A gas barbeque grill is ok, but no four wheelers or motorcycles the on trails, just on the main roads.

You should be able to get on the web and type in the forest you are planing on camping in and it will give you the restrictions for that particular forest. or try national forest and go from their.

Your best bet for finding the game is to find water first.

hope this helps

thanks rick...

well the 12th is getting closer... anyone else to join in...

Just to give a head's up...The Solihul (land rover) National Rally is being held that weekend. Shouldn't be a big issue, (150+ rigs'), but some of the trial's (Pritchet, Lower H, Rim), might get bogged down a little if your not in front.

what days are the Rovers running??? Do you think you could get me a listing of the trails they will be running and the times they are starting.... hmmm... i have never worked on a Rover before:flipoff2: should be interesting...

Originally posted by Bill Collins
hey rick,i am gonna follow the leader.i have never been on nothing but flatland:eek: .so your gonna be there sat.and sun?

you will have a great time on the slick rock. I'll be their unless somthing unforseen comes up. If you see a white and yellow tubed zuk thats me.

btt

any else want to join in,sept is almost here.so it want be long i can have a break from this texas heat...

Originally posted by rockbiter
what days are the Rovers running??? Do you think you could get me a listing of the trails they will be running and the times they are starting.... hmmm... i have never worked on a Rover before:flipoff2: should be interesting...

They are running the 12, 13, 14th...There is a rotation on just about every trail in moab. IMO, there won't be too many that are tackling the 4+'s....Most are there to kick tires and check out the awesome views. I believe that the line-up's start at 8:00am for the 4+'s...Leave time usually is about 1/2hr after that.

--D

hey guys im probably gunna show up too.. look for me

have u guys ever done upper helldarado before? i havnt. it looks tough:bounce2: :bounce:

nice truck 2stroke,i have never been to utah before...

the meeting place sat morning is market parking lot,i think...

roger that!

hey 2stroke,i will be camping in the uncompahgre forest all week.if you wanna show me some trials around montrose let me know.i will be there until sun.22nd.thanks Bill...

Bill, I heard die tryin was a good trail at montrose, and then there is 21 road at Grand junction which 2 stroke has probably run.

2stroke upper heldarodo has three obsticals plus the water fall. We ran it two weeks ago with out to much trouble, but broke on upper proving grounds.

This week end we ran some stuff off of hw 141 and i rolled my buggy. Slight damage to the hood but the 1 3/4 .120 roll bar held up to a three quarter roll. The buggy stood up on the left rear tire and rotated over on to the top , then the right side. It took a hard hit on the drivers corner of the main hoop. the real pain was when we flopped it back on its wheels it ended up in the oak brush. Now that stuff is hard to get out of. I have some pics if any one wants to post them for me.

send um too me zuk. ill post um

provin grounds is another 1 i would like to try!

hey guys... man I finally got my front arb repaired and back in... i was almost to the point of giving it to my wife for a flower pot... jeesh.. anyway.... we will meet Friday (13th), Sat. (14th) and sun (15th) at 8 am at the market.... if you can make it, show up...here is my cell number for all who want it... 806-632-4637.. my name is Harlan.... also, if you want to discuss in more detail about anything give me a call, home number is 806-797-6423.... my group will be leaving for moab the thursday the 11th at about 5 am.... heading out from Lubbock, TX.... so anyone want to meet up along the way.. you are more than welcome to caravan...
so this should be one hell of a time I am hoping....
damn, we have had alot of posts... i hope there is a good turnout...
so to you who have been up there before....whats the baddest run up there.... not saying i am going to run it just yet, but curious...
also, tech question for you slick rock runners..... i was thinking of leaving my 39.5 boggers in the rear and running my 39.5 TSL's in the front.... what ya think.. that set up or Boggers at all 4 corners...

also, if you know anyone looking for a driverside RC HP Dana 60 out of a F350, I have one left and could bring it up to the area if someone wanted it.... i will let it go for a 1000..might take less if your not an ass..... its in really good shape... i wont need it since i am running a chevy one.... let me know....

so who is in?

ME :D and a bud with a TJ...
so chalk us down for 2 rigs...

I'll be there. Jimmy we can run upper on saturday:D

im kinda scared to do upper. i have to drive my truck there and home. 100 miles each way

hey 2 stroke, we can get ya home i will have a trailer up there with a winch on the noise... we can haul ya home if worst comes to worst....

:eek: ;)

i have a trailer w/ a winch too, but nothing to pull it with

talking about getting the cart before the horse....when i had my TJ i was in the same boat you were.... i finally broke down and got it all to trailer my rig after the last episode where i was 3 hours away from home and broke my front axle shaft and popped the bottom ball joint.. so off came the wheel... had to fix it there to drive it home... needless to say , i dont have that TJ anymore....

i used too work for a guy with a cummins, and could use it whenever. but he couldnt pay me. so i had to quit. so no more truck to pull my trailer!

2stroke, which trail has the big rock gate you have to climb inorder to get on the trail... saw it on a video but dont remember the name...

upper helldarado?

oh boy.... they broke 2 rigs trying to climb into that trail..... looks like fun :eek: so what do you say....:bounce:

:idea:

entering upper is'nt as hard as it looks if you know the line. Probably the hardest obstical is the third one. I send a pic to 2 strok of my 13 year old son standing next to the rock.

Rockbiter: if you stop by Dove Creek Co on your way to Moab I'll let you borrow my book of moab trails so you can see what you want to run.
E-mail me for my #
deremo@fone.net (http://)

we have already got some maps of the area and the guy going with me picked up some book off the internet... so zuk.. you going with us.....????

hey zuk, ididnt get your email?

j2stroke@hotmail.com

2stroke you should have it now

pics :rolleyes:

im having trouble with his pics. my comp. says they contain a virus? nice rollover though!:p

email them to me....
hsmith@leelewis.com

zuk

entrance upper

hmmmm

u have no rear wheels in last pic!

last 1

hey rockbiter,you said you were leaving on thur.11,but that is the 12th.anyhoo i will be leaving my house around noon thursday,but we have to set up our hunting camp at the uncompagre forest.so i may not be there until sat morning,so please don't leave me.my cell is 409-553-6323,well that is my wifes.but i will take hers since it is local calling anywhere.i will be in a silver crew cab 2wd ford and my truck is a 85 toy x-cab,tan with white doors,so look for me:D

2-stroke,if you break your junk we will get it homw for you.i don't have to be back to texas until23rd...

thanx bill. i apreciate it

im going to get 5-760`s right now!

hey bill you are right... got my days mixed up.... we are leaving on the the 12th to arrive in Moab the 12th.... wheel 13th, 14th & 15th and head home the 16th....
nice pics....

hey, where's the pic of your boy standing next to the rock????

i didnt get the 1 with the boy.

hey rick or 2stroke or anyone in the area,the weather channel has been showing some rain in yall's area.how much if any?

also my uncle may bring his 4-wheeler to moab,will he need to get a permit to ride there?thanks...

i'll send it out it should have been with the others. I have norton antivirus on my computor and it checks everything in or out.

hadnt thought about the rain part.... is it wet up there now..if so how much...all i run is a cage with aluminum on top.... no top so what should i expect..... am i going to run in the rain???

my main concern is we will be camping on forest ser.land and fire saftey.but i got a top,but i was gonna take off my doors...

its raining today, but it never rains here or in moab. pray for the best!

3rd obstical

wow do you go up or down that?

down. It won't be that bad, we can do it just fine. Zukster or anyone else for that matter, what is the best line on the first obsticle for a Toyota? 2stroke I think those first pics (flipped over) aren't Upper Helldorado. It isn't that open, more in a canyon.

the pics of the roll over are at gip gap north of my house. the start of upper heldarado pic is not the right one. I need a red star but for now i'll send the enterance to 2 stroke.

Bill the mountians over by Durango and teluride have fresh snow on them this after noon.

kimmel... you run upper before? your going with us right?

START OF UPPER

middle

I have not run it yet. Last time to Moab, I couldn't get my winch to function correctly, and its a must for this trail, the exit especially(plus I was still on 35's). Now my winch is working great, got new rope from Rockstomper, and 37" MTR's, so I'd say I'm ready. I'll be there. I figure start on lower, then circle around to upper once we're done and hit that one.

Does anyone have a picture of the exit for Upper Helldorado? I want to see that.

lwg... do a search on here... i found it earlier when i was at work :D , but my internet at home is kinda fawked up so i am lucky its worked this long to post this...

so whats the concensus on taking a TJ up through upper hell.... a tj on 33's locked front and rear with dana 44's.... recipe for a long day or feasible.... what yall think..... my buddy is worried about his ride...

hey 2stroke, got your PM and sent you one back.... do you need that front HP 60 i have.... i also have a front chevy 60 with kingpins and 4.56's ( i need to confirm that) out of an 87 model if anyone wants a chevy 60....

man those pics look good... challenging.. i am ready....:D

is the 60 drivers or pasa drop?

the HP ford one is driverside, the chevy is passengerside.... which one ya need....;)

hmmmmmm.... both, but $$$$ is an issue. let me get back with ya

no problem, it sure would be nice for me to bring it up to ya....save ya $$$ on shipping thats for sure.... just keep me posted....

Here's a pic of the last obsticle on Upper. The dent in the door was from the first obsticle.

damn, that looks like my driveway.... we should have one hell of a time up there... rockedTJ, what size tire you running on that for upper...:eek:

looks like 37 MTR`S

well i got my spacers on the front,and today i put together my wider rear in and got it in.stopped most of the frame rubbing on the backend.done the ubolt flips,but may not have enough time to to get my rear shock mounts finished before time to leave.but i am gonna bring what i got:D

hehe ive been working on my rear shocks all day. havnt had any in months!


bill? you put in an 86and up rear correct? or did u just space it?

i dont have rear shocks, :D whats wrong with that;)

Originally posted by 2stroke
hehe ive been working on my rear shocks all day. havnt had any in months!


bill? you put in an 86and up rear correct? or did u just space it? yep,i should have had it in a long time ago.but both my axels were bad,came from my dads truck and he is hell on them.i found one used axel and just put in a bent one for now.i'm still looking for another axel,than i will just use the bent one for a spare.but the wider stance feels alot better:D

Originally posted by rockbiter
i dont have rear shocks, :D whats wrong with that;) does that mean yall not gonna laugh at my junk:eek:

as long as you dont laugh at mine... damn, i was screwing around tonight out in the street with my cruiser, putting on a neighborhood show....put the atlas in front low and the rear in neutral, line locked the rear brakes and spun the front wheels... i thought my front driveshaft was screwed up anyway... i was right... blew the cv joint out... well off to the driveline shop...luckily i have a spare ..

man. i am tired of talking and ready to hit the trails..going thru withdrawls...

heading to moab in the morning to wheel for the day. Were going to meet at mc donalds at 8:00 am

:mad: :flipoff2: :( :mad:

i guess i will pull out the Rick Russell's moab extreme video and pretend i am there....:eek:

Originally posted by rockbiter
damn, that looks like my driveway.... we should have one hell of a time up there... rockedTJ, what size tire you running on that for upper...:eek:

35 mtr's. Will probably go with 37's this winter, but I have to figure out a new front axle first! Speaking of which, what year ford is that front axle?

its out of a 94 ford F350... i also have a set of 37" boggers :eek: and champion beadlocks but they might be sold.... will no more whether they are or not on monday.....

are those boggers 15in.if so how much do you want for them?

16 in. rim and 8 lug...

i got 16in. rims on my truck now,but gonna go back to 15in.when i get new tires...

so anyone gonna join us in moab,just come on...

also back to the top:D

it is almost time to hit moab,everyone got there junk together to make the trip.i won't be able to get there until sat.morning.but i will be there before 8:00 am...

my junk is never together:(

hey 2stroke, i saw a pic of your square tubed driveshaft... i am going to do the same for my spare... what wall thickness did you use.....

bump:D

rockbiter,your convoy ready to go yet?2-stroke are you still in?time is running short so it won't be long...

im still in.. unless someone offers me a JOB before then. is your junk ready bill?

im still waiting on my Budbuilt crossmember.Bud said i would have it on time.:bounce2:

my convoy and my junk will be there thursday night...... its getting close....lets roll....

i gotta change my top radiator hose and put some break shoes on the rear.i still don't have no sliders on the side,i may just let the panels catch the rocks.i just got my hitch put in my truck today with the brake controller.so i am getting close,still don't think i will be there until sat.morning.but i will be there unless hell freezes over...

it's almost time to start loading up all my junk,it should be a fun weekend.
i saw on the weather channel that utah and south colorado was getting some good rains...

Originally posted by 2stroke
its raining today, but it never rains here or in moab. pray for the best!

bwahaha thats what we always say....

but it rained like a mutha the last 3 days
that don't happen very much so I would say were fine...

if it rains we can come over to my house and web wheel LOL

hey any of you texas boys know Pucker?


I just heard Helldorado got a really bad flash flood down it...


they were tourists though so we shale see...I will go look manana.

But I won't tell ya all - I'd hate to ruin hte suprise!

so who will be meeting me Friday morning?????? I wont be solo will I??? Austin, i dont know Pucker, where is he from...?

rocbiter, i should be there on friday morning. ill leave here around 6:00. city market right? nooo rain

city market, 8 am , friday, saturday, and sunday..... we are looking for some milder runs Friday just to get the blood flowing

how many rigs u bringing rockbiter?

it will be my cruiser and then my buddies TJ

Originally posted by rockbiter
city market, 8 am , friday, saturday, and sunday..... we are looking for some milder runs Friday just to get the blood flowing

I'll be there if I can drag my ass out of bed. If you're staying at the Canyonlands campground, wake my ass up as you drive by. Look for a roofless ZJ.

I'm down for whatever on Friday. I know most of the 4 rated trails and about half of the 4+. I'm open front and rear but if you guys have a strap I'll try about anything.

Cody

We finished a full size event in Moab a couple of weeks ago. You can find pics of all the Upper obstacles in these galleries. FWIW, my rig is the ghetto buggy with a truck hood (till I can finish the front)...

http://www.rockmodified.com/events/blazerbash/uprhell/index.htm
http://community.webshots.com/album/48684762bQeFeb
http://community.webshots.com/album/48958453nBuejm

hey grocery, you'd better be up.... we have a good group going and need ya there...i'll yank ya over if I can make it....:rolleyes:
besides we need some trail guides.....;)

From the look of your setup, anything I can show you is going to be a warmup. I should be there in the a.m.

Cody

Cody, whats new?

If anyone still wants info on Upper Helldorado, we ran it over Labor Day. 2 rigs took about 1.5 hrs. It's not that bad..... You just have to have a Winch in the group to pull out at the top. The really hard parts have been getting stacked, so it's pretty much a cake walk. Heres a pic-

http://www.rockymountainextreme.com/attachment.php?postid=8436


If you want more, check out the link that follows. (Upper Proving Grounds are the first set of pics, Upper Helldorado are the second set.)

Upper Helldorado pics and info (http://www.rockymountainextreme.com/showthread.php?threadid=1036)

nice pics greg and russ,are yall gonna join us for the weekend?

nice pics greg.....
tick, tick, tick.... its getting closer....:bounce: :bounce2: :shaking:

I wish I could go again this soon, but, gotta catch up on real life stuff. Soon though! :D

how bad are the local law dawgs there in Moab, I wont have any brake lights working..... hmmm, oh well :flipoff2:

Hehe, funny you should ask. Here is the text of a post I made about a week or so ago on CK5. BTW, there is a good reason I use Willy as an avatar and SOL as a "title". :D Sorry for the length but it should be worth a laugh.
Here is the (semi) short story. I ran out of time to finish my rig and get it inspected for tags (which I honestly plan to do). But I did get brake lights and most everything I need for AZ street legal done before Moab. But, I figure I can trailer to some trails, and others I can flat tow in/out with a tow bar (thanks Alan for the bar and Marv for the tow offer). So, everyone (and I do mean EVERYONE) with Moab experience kept telling me, (to paraphrase and sum up) “Nobody will bother you in moab, buggies with no tags (and often no lights) run the roads here all the time and the cops don’t bother them. It’s their entire economy so they look the other way.” But, take a look at my “title” and avatar. I chose “SOL” and Willy for a reason! Still, I let popular opinion sway me. On Saturday morning I drove it to the meeting point, getting gas on the way. Gas was filled before my Black Canyon quick-check run so it only needed about 2 gallons to top off. Picked up ice, food, water, etc. and went on to the meeting. I got into the middle of the caravan between Marv and Rob (so no insurance issues and minimal chance of notice). Almost out of town and a patrol car with lights flashing cuts Rob out from behind me and pulls me over. @#%#$, @#$%#%, @@%#$%, and @#%#%!!! Within minutes there were 3 patrol cars there and 4 officers. Always me.

Well, turns out that they weren’t that bent over my no registration, not tag, and no insurance. But the lady at the gas station swore I got 19 gallons of gas and drove off without paying. Luckily I had my receipt and paid by card, but she insisted that I must have pumped twice and got the additional 2 gallons too. Well, I have a small K5 gas tank (23 gallons total?) now so you guys know that driving in and putting in over 21 gallons in is not likely. Anyway, he follows me BACK through town to talk to her and she eventually gives it up. I absolutely refused to pay for it, I didn’t get it and that’s that. The officer was pretty cool about the whole thing really. At the end he said, “You’ve already had a bad morning and all your buddies are waiting so I won’t make it any worse by getting you for the plates and all, so I’m going to let you go on out today. But, I don’t want to see it on the road again after today.” To which my obvious response was, “Thank you sir, no problem sir, thank you very much sir.” bowing and scraping as I backed away. Of course I’m pissed and upset at holding up several guys waiting on me to hook up with the Rusty Nail group so I swear I’ll never go there again. BTW, if I didn’t get a chance to thank all of you that were willing to wait and help me, ***THANKS***.

Day 2. Times running short, my rigs on the trailer, I need gas, and the only convenient station where I could easily fit the tow rig and trailer was, you guessed it… So, I tell myself, “accidents happen, she made a mistake, don’t cause yourself more problems just because of yesterday…” And I pull in to get gas, food, ice, etc. Takes forever to get gas due to a pinched vent line on the tank. After about 3 minutes of pull, pop, wait, pull, pop, wait… the pump just turns off with a notice saying “see attendant inside”. I go inside pissed thinking they are harassing me but she says, sorry, hit the wrong button, just put your credit card in and start over, which I do. About 5 minutes later my buddy from Sat shows up. I chat with him pointing to the rig on the trailer saying, “see, it’s on a trailer”. Figured maybe he just saw me there and stopped to chat some more. He was really pretty cool. Nope, the bitch manager called them. Anyway, he asks if I paid for it I show him both receipts, explaining that they cut the pump off on me. He says he will go in and make sure everything is ok so we don’t have a repeat. My response is, “Please do!” Within minutes, 3 cruisers again. One is a total stereotypical pompass ass POS cop. Must have been a supervisor or something because my buddy and the other guy (also friendly) clamed up. Chest poked out like a Marine drill sergeant, dark shades, and arrogant asinine tone. He takes my receipts, demands everyone present hand over their IDs (Keith and Eric) so he can “get their information” in case he needs to contact them. Then informs me that he is going to pull the tapes and find out if I stole the gas or not, and, if I did, they will be knocking on our doors. I told him to pull them and look at them all he wants, I didn’t take the gas and I won’t be seeing you at my door. At that point I was getting pretty hot, but I kept my mouth mostly shut. Small town Barney Fife could easily ruin the rest of my trip. I did tell him at that point that my friends were waiting and that if there was nothing else I was leaving. Again I say, I’ll never go there again…

Later, talking to Eric and others, we came to the conclusion that my $30 odd dollars of lost business would not even be noticed (obviously) but that by going by again on Monday, we could sure piss them off. So, we did. Spent 30 minutes or so fueling up, taking our time, this time, no cops.

I’m not a thief, I don’t steal, and it was not an accident. There is no way I pumped 21 gallons of gas into my POS. All I can say is I hope that bitch is married to a drunken wife beating homosexual who gives her aids along with his POS fag cop boyfriend. But, I’m all calmed down now, not at all bitter about the experience.

So, there it is. Full disclosure of my rein of terror in Moab …

so what gas station was it.... maybe i will avoid it.... wtf is up with people these days....every think she liked you and wanted to see more of you:eek:
ok, bad joke.....:flipoff2:
good story though..

Ahhh, brain not working. It's the one righ next to City Market on the North side... Hmmm, Walker's I believe? The fat ass manager was the one being a bitch...

oh boy, we are all meeting at the city market....most likely we willl get gas there too....maybe i will pay inside

where do you park your tow rigs at,i know the city market is not gonna let everone park there.i'm just talking out of my ass,because i have never been there and i am getting excited:eek:

Originally posted by Bill Collins
nice pics greg and russ,are yall gonna join us for the weekend?

I doubt it...... I wish I could, but I just got back from the Labor Day trip and am making plans/getting ready for a trip at the end of October.

I wish you all the best though! Upper Helldorado is FUN!!!

well the time is almost here to roll out,i will be leaving tommorow.not sure if i will be there fri.are sat.morning.but i am gonna have fun:D

russ i did not realize you were from arizona,i have a sister-in-law in mesa.maybe i will make it out there next summer...

Bill and rockbiter, we will see you sunday morning at citymarket around 8:am Bill you should have my cell number i pm you the other day.

weather up date in south west co. We have had scattered showers ever day for the last three days. 1/4 to 1/2 inch each day. things are getting muddy.

:bounce2: :bounce:

hey zuk, do u have a special treat for us on sunday. a good trail noone has done?.. any suggestions?

i just checked weather... supposed to be nice sat and sun!

hey rick,something is wrong with my profile and i cannot recieve meassages.so i did not get your cell number.

but mine is 409-553-6323,call if yall can't find me:D

Originally posted by Bill Collins
where do you park your tow rigs at,i know the city market is not gonna let everone park there.i'm just talking out of my ass,because i have never been there and i am getting excited:eek:

the bakery police will beat ya down with day old french bread

:flipoff2:

hey perfect plan on pissing them off by going back instead of avoding them....I do that shit everyday here!!


hey if you guys can't find a place, Moab Offroad has pretty big gravel lot out front you can park all your stuff in....its about 2 miles south from city market...towards Helldo..

not the mose convienent I know but...its what I can think of..OR there is a back street behind citymarket that you could park some single file on...that might work out to.

see ya all saturday..we might go out on a night Fri13th run....I will decide soon and lett you know. I hope all the texas boys don't miss this though they prolly left already

If your going north of town, there is a Motel 6 on the extreme North side of town. Behind it is a large open field where the hotel directs guests with trailers to park. Plenty of room there and I'll bet they wouldn't even notice as long as you don't draw attention to yourselves... If you use it, the easy way into the field (without jumping a curve) is a gravel road that is less than obvious on the right side as you face it when you pull in.

Plus, all the trails I was on had nice parking accommodations at the trail head, as long as your going out where (or near where) you go in…

are all the extreme trails marked? (proving grounds ex.)

Originally posted by Moab Austin


the bakery police will beat ya down with day old french bread

:flipoff2:

hey perfect plan on pissing them off by going back instead of avoding them....I do that shit everyday here!!


hey if you guys can't find a place, Moab Offroad has pretty big gravel lot out front you can park all your stuff in....its about 2 miles south from city market...towards Helldo..

not the mose convienent I know but...its what I can think of..OR there is a back street behind citymarket that you could park some single file on...that might work out to.

see ya all saturday..we might go out on a night Fri13th run....I will decide soon and lett you know. I hope all the texas boys don't miss this though they prolly left already i am leaving tommorow,i may not be there until sat.morning.gotta drop my dad off at the camp in columbine pass and i may rest there fri.but i will be there:D

Originally posted by peeJ
are all the extreme trails marked? (proving grounds ex.)

No! Never!

well boys, i have got all of my shit together and we are leaving at 7 am texas time:D , so this is my last sign on till we meet in person, everyone have a safe trip up and my cell # is 806-632-4637, i will be in moab thursday night around 9 pm or so.... here we go .... :p
later guys.............

I know ya would check it before ya left !!!!!!!!


have a safe trip man...to find out about possible fri evening/night run...Go by Moab Offroad...I should be around there friday..ask for Austin

drive safe my god keep the morons out of your way

[QUOTE]Originally posted by 2stroke
[B]hey zuk, do u have a special treat for us on sunday. a good trail noone has done?.. any suggestions?

what have ya run and what are you going to run before sunday.

Id be there for both days but my daughter has volley ball all day saturday that i cant miss.

hey CO guys you on your way toghnight?

wanna do some fri 13th night wheelin?

well i just got home today,camped in the forest above montrose all week.i want be on long i drove 1200 miles straight...

it was nice to meet you jimmy and harlen...