HeY.. Im getting ready to build a full cage rig out of a K5 Chassis
I HAVE
TBI Vortec 355
Headers
700r4 -> stock now getting ready to rebuild beefy
NP203 Im pretty sure
14bolt rear
D60 front..... (I think) - both 8 lug

Im looking to do a 3 seater-- maybe 4 (doubt it)
FULL CAGE 1 3/4 -.120 DOM
4link rear
4link front ~~possibly
runnin 44's maybe 40's
Maybe around a 110 wheelbase


general purpose of this rig is Everything.. makes it ez HUh??

Ability I want to be able to go through some mud but I also want to be able to rock crawl ... (and when I say rock crawl, Im not going to do all that extreme stuff but when i see a crazy hill to climb .... I wanna go!)

Motor:I have heard about some people moving the motor back so that the balancer is above the axle.. but wouldnt it be just as ez to move the axle foreward if im doing a 4 link??

transferr case: I wouldnt mind getting some LOW gears but i still wouldnt mind being able to do 55 or 60 some times too..
what is the best thing to do with that 203?

this is what im starting with:
http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m373/bsteele_bucket/IMAGE_060.jpg
http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m373/bsteele_bucket/IMAGE_059.jpg
This is what I want it to look like when Im done... Not sure whose is but its sweet!
http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m373/bsteele_bucket/c8c2_1.jpg

Your links are bad, plus even if they were good like they were in your general4x4 thread, we still can't see them, because you have your myspace profile set to private. Load them at imageshack.us and repost them here.

You can get adapters to adapt a NP203 to an NP 205, Northwestfab on here has them, as I'm sure other companies do as well. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=734754&highlight=203

HeY.. Im getting ready to build a full cage rig out of a K5 Chassis
I HAVE
TBI Vortec 355
Headers
700r4 -> stock now getting ready to rebuild beefy
NP203 Im pretty surefind out for sure
14bolt rear
D60 front..... (I think) - both 8 lugfind out for sure

Im looking to do a 3 seater-- maybe 4 (doubt it)
FULL CAGE 1 3/4 -.120 DOM
4link rear
4link front ~~possiblyfind out for sure
runnin 44's maybe 40's
Maybe around a 110 wheelbase


general purpose of this rig is Everything.. makes it ez HUh??

Ability I want to be able to go through some mud but I also want to be able to rock crawl ... (and when I say rock crawl, Im not going to do all that extreme stuff but when i see a crazy hill to climb .... I wanna go!)

Motor:I have heard about some people moving the motor back so that the balancer is above the axle.. but wouldnt it be just as ez to move the axle foreward if im doing a 4 link??yup

transferr case: I wouldnt mind getting some LOW gears but i still wouldnt mind being able to do 55 or 60 some times too..
what is the best thing to do with that 203? what does your transfercase have to do with highway:confused: doubler is what you want



spend some time looking around and figuring out what you have.

Your links are bad, plus even if they were good like they were in your general4x4 thread, we still can't see them, because you have your myspace profile set to private. Load them at imageshack.us and repost them here.

You can get adapters to adapt a NP203 to an NP 205, Northwestfab on here has them, as I'm sure other companies do as well. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=734754&highlight=203



thanks for the info .. I cant figure out how to get my profile not private.. and I cant remember my pass. to photobucket.. Im an idiot.:laughing:

I like the Idea of theat adapter! I looked at that site last night .. Looks nice! I have heard of people rotating the case to give better clearence under the middle of the truck .. does anyone have good pics of how this looks and is this done with this adapter from northwest fab? Also the drive shaft in the front would need to be leingthened of course and I was just going to push the rear axle back (however far needed to fit the 2nd case)


I was going to use 1 3/4 dom x.120 for the 4link arms ..To small??? let me know

spend some time looking around and figuring out what you have.


ok I will take a look tonight for the tcase to see the number..

as far as the front axle the only thing that I can say is I have tried to identify it for a long time .. it has the diff cover bolt pattern that a 44 and a 60 has but it is 8lug so I assumed it was a 60...(Please god let it be!) is there a good way to Identify it?

ok I will take a look tonight for the tcase to see the number..

as far as the front axle the only thing that I can say is I have tried to identify it for a long time .. it has the diff cover bolt pattern that a 44 and a 60 has but it is 8lug so I assumed it was a 60...(Please god let it be!) is there a good way to Identify it?

Not all 8 lug = Dana 60.

Does it have kingpins?

Not all 8 lug = Dana 60.

Does it have kingpins?

not sure.. Ill check


is there a top and a bottom King? or would it be 1 main King? what do i need to look for?

http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/60_front/

here are some pics of the front axle... now that i look at it, Im not sure actually im thinking its a 44.. tell me what you think
http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m373/bsteele_bucket/IMAGE_062.jpg
http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m373/bsteele_bucket/IMAGE_061.jpg
http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m373/bsteele_bucket/IMAGE_063.jpg
http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m373/bsteele_bucket/IMAGE_064.jpg
http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m373/bsteele_bucket/IMAGE_065.jpg
60 or 44?

here is the tcase

http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m373/bsteele_bucket/IMAGE_067.jpg
http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m373/bsteele_bucket/CopyofIMAGE_070.jpg
http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m373/bsteele_bucket/CopyofIMAGE_069.jpg

the badge says:
208 C1
Ass# 1552 1978
cerial# 715881
ratio 261

Thats not a 44 or a 60. thats a mothafuckin TURD :laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing: :laughing::flipoff2:

Transfer case is an np208 with a 2.6/1 low range. Not as tough as a 205, but its got a lower low range and is part time unlike a 203. Id keep it.

The front axles junk. Is the rear sf or ff (hubs sticking out)?

Transfer case is an np208 with a 2.6/1 low range. Not as tough as a 205, but its got a lower low range and is part time unlike a 203. Id keep it.

The front axles junk. Is the rear sf or ff (hubs sticking out)?

yes hubs are sticking out of front and rear I am assuming FF in rear.. CRAP so this means that i need to find a d60 for the front somewhere!! anyone?? or any other suggestions?

so you do thing that the 208 is better???? if it has a lower range it sounds good.. but is it as strong??? if it has a lower range that may be alot better than spending the money for a 2nd case and adapter.

Your front axle is a corprate 10 bolt. roughly equaivalent in strength to a d44.

yes hubs are sticking out of front and rear I am assuming FF in rear.. CRAP so this means that i need to find a d60 for the front somewhere!! anyone?? or any other suggestions?

so you do thing that the 208 is better???? if it has a lower range it sounds good.. but is it as strong??? if it has a lower range that may be alot better than spending the money for a 2nd case and adapter.
I would get a different case. That 208 has a slip yoke, and sye are $$$

The 208 is plenty strong for a mild engine. The weight savings and lower gearing make up for the loss in strength.

I ran a ford version for a couple years behind a built 347 stroker/Full manual c6, and 42" tires. I never had a problem with it.

But, if you link the rear, that slip yoke might not provide enough travel.

HMMMMM all good info .. I am planning on linking the rear so .. maybe to dual case would be better???? also Im only planning on running the stock 350 but you know how that goes> it will probibly evd up with 500hp over the next couple yrs.. if that is the case I would need a better tcase anyways.

thanks thanks keep it comming.

Considering You're in IL I'd say go with the twin cases. That thing is gonna be a heavy SOB Anyway, so I wouldn't worry too much about saving weight... I'm not say armor plate the thing but the couple of hundred pounds difference, between a 208 and a good dual case setup, you might see ain't gonna matter all that much. The choice between 2 low ranges for a trail rig makes it worth while. You'll have the ability to crawl decently and have the higher tire speed for mud.

As far as rotating the 205 in a 203/205 setup, you can do this with the NWFab adapter.

I think links out of 1-3/4" .120 wall tubing are too weak. I'm not sure on the weight of the vehicle but it seems to me that it will be pushing the 5000# mark (just a wild ass guess)... search around the buggy threads and see what others are using with similar vehicles. What I've seen mostly recommended is 2" .250 wall DOM, for just a trail rig I wouldn't think twice about upping that to 3/8" (.375) wall or even 1/2".

Considering You're in IL I'd say go with the twin cases. That thing is gonna be a heavy SOB Anyway, so I wouldn't worry too much about saving weight... I'm not say armor plate the thing but the couple of hundred pounds difference, between a 208 and a good dual case setup, you might see ain't gonna matter all that much. The choice between 2 low ranges for a trail rig makes it worth while. You'll have the ability to crawl decently and have the higher tire speed for mud.

As far as rotating the 205 in a 203/205 setup, you can do this with the NWFab adapter.

I think links out of 1-3/4" .120 wall tubing are too weak. I'm not sure on the weight of the vehicle but it seems to me that it will be pushing the 5000# mark (just a wild ass guess)... search around the buggy threads and see what others are using with similar vehicles. What I've seen mostly recommended is 2" .250 wall DOM, for just a trail rig I wouldn't think twice about upping that to 3/8" (.375) wall or even 1/2".


Awsome Good to know!:beer:

any other Northern Illinois wheelers wanna help me build this pig?

I should just turn it into a drag race truck, since we have no hills to climb here!:shaking: