I was thinking about building my own custom trailer, dual braking axles, about 12,000lbs rated, bumper-pull big enough for one buggy with a flat deck on at least a portion of it to pitch a tent on. Of course, this is after I'm done with the buggy. Was just wondering what kind of ideas woudl be pimp? Let your imaginations run wild. Independant suspension? Steering? via in-cab electric control? Small coilovers for suspension? What do you think would be cool?

J. J.

gooseneck with a small pop-up camper (or rooftop exedition style tent) on the neck.

we're currently shopping for a popup to do this with.

The point in this trailer was to be small and bumper-pull for those trips where I only need my one buggy. I have a big gooseneck for when I need to take more than one.

J. J.

The point in this trailer was to be small and bumper-pull for those trips where I only need my one buggy. I have a big gooseneck for when I need to take more than one.

J. J.

i prefer to pull a goose.

next trailer in our aresenal will probably be a short (~14') goose, low deck with drive over fenders.

just nicer to haul.. easier to manuever. not worth bumper pullin.

something about this size, minus the dump of course. http://www.rayside.com/images/upload/HAWK%2016%20GOOSEL.JPG

Racebox on the front.
My bumperpull is a Featherlite. It fits my buggy and a racebox.
The racebox is removeable so the trailer can be used for other stuff. But that race box fits, 2 39" spares, a full toolbox, jacks, jackstands, boxes of spares (shafts, d-lines, links), a pop-up, chairs, coolers, oil, fuel, luggage, trailer spare. It keeps everything dry, and under lock and key vs. the bed of the truck.
Trailer with racerbox weights 1600lbs empty.


Sorry dont have a better pic, but here it is in the background.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j19/InDashop/MI%20Buggy1/IMG_2271.jpg

hey JJ didja look over in the tow rig section, there's several toyhauler/camper trailer builds. Some bumper pulls and some goosenecks. One that comes to mind is Yager's, he put a bigrig sleeper on the front of his bumperpull.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=537106 v1.0/2.0

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=622215 v 3.0

NightKrawler's bumperpull + camper:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=468987

Mechanos slide in camper on a gooseneck:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=667266

I think my trailer is pretty pimp for a one-car-small-hauler.

I'll never have another car hauler with out built in chain binders, here you can see the 2 on the front, there are 2 more built into the dovetail on the rear. I never have to fuck with ratchet straps, boomers or any other of that bullshit ever!

Just drive on, throw the chains on, ratchet down and ride.

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x100/bluetoy4x4/random%20other%20stuff/071306_1820.jpg

Oh, it is also Peterbuilt Metallic Blue :grinpimp: no shitty one shot trailer paint for me!

Air suspension with manual adjustable ride height.
Disk brakes.

Air suspension with manual adjustable ride height.
Disk brakes.
Now we're talking! I was surprised that no one jumped on my steering idea. With independant suspension it would be easy, just run a 12 volt power unit and run the solenoids into the cab and you coudl steer your trailer when you were trying to park, etc. I think that would be beyond pimp! My only worry would be electrical shorts causing the tires to turn while at highway speeds ... GM seemed to get past that with the old rear steer trucks though ...

J. J.

Heres a custom trailer built by a guy on the board (nbjeeptj) just big enough to fit his Jeep on. I think it has #3500 torsion axles. There may be a build thread on here, but I am not sure...

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Ha! I just noticed that guidolyons posted a link to my toy hauler build in post #6. :p That rig now belongs to my dad, and I have since built a new one...

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I'd say do an ind. suspension with air bags and then you can auto leval the trailer and get a flat camping spot.. maybe a lot of hidden storage?? that could be pimp..

Why don't you buy my 44' Gooseneck Race Trailer for 7 G's and put a nice set of sleeping quarters inside it...

attached are photos...

Because I don't want something that big. Ia lready have a big trailer. The entire point is to have a single hauler that is simple and quick to hooka nd load and leave. Thanks anyway though. I bet someone buys it now that you have it up for sale in this thread. :)

That, and I don't think my rocks with 47's will fit in an enclosed trailer. :)

J. J.

What would also be cool with a steering trailer is that you could then rig the hydraulics to run the trailer jack, no more spinning the crank.

J. J.

How exactly do you propose this steering would work?

My idea is to make a hydraulic dovetail so you don't have to have ramps at all. Just drop the tail, drive on, raise the tail. Gives you a nice flat trailer for hauling other things(long building materials, etc) and no hassle of dealing with ramps. You can also rig the hydraulics for the tongue jack as well. Figured you could run it all off of a 12V hydro pump powered by a deep cell battery that's charged by the trailer plug.

You could also do airride to avoid using ramps, but the hydraulic dovetail would just be too cool IMO. Maybe combine the two?

BTW, any reason this isn't posted in the towing/trailer section? :confused:

How exactly do you propose this steering would work?

My idea is to make a hydraulic dovetail so you don't have to have ramps at all. Just drop the tail, drive on, raise the tail. Gives you a nice flat trailer for hauling other things(long building materials, etc) and no hassle of dealing with ramps. You can also rig the hydraulics for the tongue jack as well. Figured you could run it all off of a 12V hydro pump powered by a deep cell battery that's charged by the trailer plug.

You could also do airride to avoid using ramps, but the hydraulic dovetail would just be too cool IMO. Maybe combine the two?

BTW, any reason this isn't posted in the towing/trailer section? :confused:
Steering coul be done a number of ways.

Independant suspension: Each wheel is connected to a knuckle and a-arms. A tie-rod connects the steering arms and a hydraulic ram pushes/pulls on the tie-rod underneath the trailer.

I-Beam axle: Similar to what is under a semi, still use a tie-rod and a ram.

In both cases use an electric hydro power unit with a built in steering solenoid and control the solenoid with a switch in the cab. The same power unit can power the drop-down dovetail and the trailer jack. All the design lacks in a sure-fire way to return to center while driving and be assured that is stays there.

J. J.

I meant more like how you foresee using it. Seems like you could only use it while backing up to me.

JJ ever seen a Heavy Equipment Transporter (HET) trailer? It's what they transport M-1 tanks and M3 Bradley IFVs on. The M-1000 trailer has self steering axles on it. It pretty cool seeing a 110 tons of American Iron come around the corner with the trailer steering.

It might be a tad bit bigger that you want, and you'd need a new tow rig :flipoff2:

I'm not a tanker so I don't know exactly how the steering axles are set up, but it's obviously do-able:grinpimp:

M-1000 Trailer
Axles: 5 Axle Lines, 2 Half-width Axles per Line
Steering: Hydraulically Actuated Mechanical Linkage; Axles 2,3,4 and 5 Automatically Steer
Axle Vertical Travel: 20"

Suspension: Type: Load Leveling Hydraulic, Independent from Side to Side
Suspension Supports: 10 ea.



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Since by buddy bagged the back of his dually (not slammed bagged, weight hauling and big 19.5's bagged), we have been talking about independent bags on the trailer. bags off semi's are cheap and readily available. gladhands and hoses are easy, why not. you can get into an electric over hydraulic brake actuator for about $525 shipped now, so your controller stays and you have wet discs at each wheel. you only need to ladder bar it to have the bags. having a wet kit on the trailer adds another dynamic to me. air is fairly easy, look at all the bagged rigs on the road.
PS, you don't need steering on a 15" trailer. put it on your big one:p

can't find a picture of it but i have always wanted to build a trailer like the ones,....I believe avalanche eng., or who ever built the scorpians, built.

Single axle dual wheel minimal structure.

just do a skid steer on the trailer, set up a brake control for each side so it will turn quick when backing up.

The idea I've had lately, is to make a 6' tall "sleeper" style box on teh front of a trailer with an access door and cot up top, and the whole rear panel would lift up (becoming a canopy)to reveal storage on the bottom, and a stove and sink in the middle. That way, you could lift up the panel to make some shade in the summer, pull out a folding chair from the storage, a beer from the cooler and cook up some grub.

can't find a picture of it but i have always wanted to build a trailer like the ones,....I believe avalanche eng., or who ever built the scorpians, built.

Single axle dual wheel minimal structure.

I think Bruce Zeller had one like that.

I was thinking about building my own custom trailer, dual braking axles, about 12,000lbs rated, bumper-pull big enough for one buggy with a flat deck on at least a portion of it to pitch a tent on. Of course, this is after I'm done with the buggy. Was just wondering what kind of ideas woudl be pimp? Let your imaginations run wild. Independant suspension? Steering? via in-cab electric control? Small coilovers for suspension? What do you think would be cool?

J. J.

I have a 8x 22 deckover...kinda like this one minus the ramps and the front bar (mine are underneath and I also have dual toolboxes under the deck)
http://www.pascowebhosting.com/viking.htm (4th one down the page)


I don't know about the axles and steering ideas..When these are loaded they ride fine behind a 3/4 ton rig....coilovers or the really nice axles might help but to me it would be a waste of $.

After saying all that:
led lights for loading/markers/tails all over...Under trailer too..like rock lights
a ton of attachment points
rear hitch ( I use mine for a small pop up camper that I tow behind the trailer or my grill trailer--> http://bbonepics.shutterfly.com/94)
tool boxes for straps and chains
air tank underneath
2 or more spare trailer tires under the deck
electric jack in the front
battery under the deck
winch on the front below the deck (so it remains a open deckover/ no obstructions)
ramps under the rear deck
mounts on the sides for side loading ramps--> quads or side by sides or kid buggy
firewood basket underneath
propane tank storage
slide out boxes under the deck like on a big rv for cooler etc.

I know some/most of these arent pimp but...

Couple guys I wheel with have this setup. Boxes built in under the camper and trailer deck and fit a ton of stuff.

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg108/FuggyFilms/IMG_2627.jpg

Racebox on the front.
My bumperpull is a Featherlite. It fits my buggy and a racebox.
The racebox is removeable so the trailer can be used for other stuff. But that race box fits, 2 39" spares, a full toolbox, jacks, jackstands, boxes of spares (shafts, d-lines, links), a pop-up, chairs, coolers, oil, fuel, luggage, trailer spare. It keeps everything dry, and under lock and key vs. the bed of the truck.
Trailer with racerbox weights 1600lbs empty.


Sorry dont have a better pic, but here it is in the background.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j19/InDashop/MI%20Buggy1/IMG_2271.jpg

Do you have a link or more info on the racebox for your trailer? Thanks.

Here is some Dual wheeled axles on a boat trailer
http://www.extremetrailers.com/new/db_Dsc000164.jpg
How about triple axles
http://www.extremetrailers.com/new/db_gallery24.jpg

This is one of my favorites
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q2/PuckerFactor/Pucker%20Factor%20II%20-%20Blue%20Torch%20Fab/IMG_2657.jpg

can't find a picture of it but i have always wanted to build a trailer like the ones,....I believe avalanche eng., or who ever built the scorpians, built.

Single axle dual wheel minimal structure.

This one? :flipoff2:
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just do a skid steer on the trailer, set up a brake control for each side so it will turn quick when backing up.

The idea I've had lately, is to make a 6' tall "sleeper" style box on teh front of a trailer with an access door and cot up top, and the whole rear panel would lift up (becoming a canopy)to reveal storage on the bottom, and a stove and sink in the middle. That way, you could lift up the panel to make some shade in the summer, pull out a folding chair from the storage, a beer from the cooler and cook up some grub.

I don't think I'd want a 15-24' trailer to turn any quicker backing up :eek: jackknife central

Yager's:
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This might be a retarded idea and my brain is pretty fried right now but what about a deckover where you build something like a popup and set it down into the rails. Build it light (make the walls/floors out of Al sheet). It can store your gear out of the way and if you build it around the rails it won't interfere with your rig hauling abilities? Just a thought.

It's obviously not going to be huge but you could get pretty creative with it.

the HET trailer is controlled by a "switch" of sorts on the tongue of the trailer. as the truck turns, it pushes the switch which controls the valves to actuate rams on each of the axle sets. each one turns more or less than the next one, so the trailer still takes wide swinging turns.

I'm guessing you keep the system OFF on the highway? That seems like it could hairy if you had to swerve around something or if you got a little sway (which I know isn't a common occurrence since most of us have proper sized tow rigs/trailers and know how to dist weight on a trailer but it does happen).

maybe it's just me but i don't think i'd ever make a steering trailer for a long-distance setup.

I think backing up with steering on the trailer you'd have too many controls to focus on. Its allready hard enough to steer the fronts, make sure the rears are where you need them, deal with the hitch articulation point and figure out where the trailers going as well as where the rear of the trailer is swinging. Also you'd have to be more carefull of possibly sideswiping cars if you were to parallel park and crab walk the trailer in.

The problem with all the "pimp" gizmos is that it adds weight and complexity to something that really just needs to be simple, functional, and reliable. Besides when I think of pimp I think of gold trim and wire wheels.:grinpimp:

I've allways wanted a simple, sturdy, light trailer. Something I can hook up to easily and I know its gonna work. I don't want something heavy thats going to eat up power and fuel. I think the only real gizmos I'd like are an in cab tire pressure and hub temp monitoring system. Something to let me know the trailers doing ok.

Kevo

http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=743882&highlight=condo+trailer

some super sweet super simple bare bones trailers here

Do you have a link or more info on the racebox for your trailer? Thanks.

Louis Irvin in Dallas at The Trailer Shop built it for me. Its a standard box he makes, I needed my doors slightly shorter to clear the side rails on my trailer, and I needed it slightly narrower, he took care of it.
www.exploreus.com/trailershop

http://www.exploreus.com/trailershop/RACER%20SPECIAL%20PICTURES/Untitled01.jpg

I got the idea for the box from Texas Trailer Man, but they didnt do aluminum. http://www.texastrailerman.com/new28.htm
http://www.texastrailerman.com/TTM%2020'%20RACER%20BOX%20Black.jpg

BTW, any reason this isn't posted in the towing/trailer section? :confused:

I fixed that for him :p

This one? :flipoff2:
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thanks, ya thats the one, that is one sexy trailer.

I'm thinking a "theme" to be inspired by, like... party boat! Not just a pontoon boat because you want to have sleeping quarters but within the 15' or so limitations you want

-Build a second deck over the front half of the trailer tall enough to walk under and pull the front end of your rig under.
-Mount a double RTT rig on the upper deck. Should sleep like 8 people or just have lots of room.
-Build a secondary deck that slide out from underneath the front of the trailer like an expanding RV would. Give you a big deck to climb out onto and more room for deck chairs since you may need to work on your rig while its on the trailer.
-Stripper pole hinged to the center of the second deck that can be raised when the deck is out. Sometimes you need to make the party come to you.
-Full LED lighting along the decks and upper deck for the party boat atmosphere at night.
-air bagged suspension to really make it stable when parked or moving the rig since you don't want to spill drinks while the better half is chillin on the deck.
-Big rig style wheels, 19.5"s just for bling ;)
-onboard genny to power everything
-.... so much you can do :)

Louis Irvin in Dallas at The Trailer Shop built it for me. Its a standard box he makes, I needed my doors slightly shorter to clear the side rails on my trailer, and I needed it slightly narrower, he took care of it.
www.exploreus.com/trailershop

http://www.exploreus.com/trailershop/RACER%20SPECIAL%20PICTURES/Untitled01.jpg

I got the idea for the box from Texas Trailer Man, but they didnt do aluminum. http://www.texastrailerman.com/new28.htm
http://www.texastrailerman.com/TTM%2020'%20RACER%20BOX%20Black.jpg

Thanks for posting up that info.
I'm looking for exactly that kind of box for my trailer.

My sleeper box is forsale now for $1000 I got laid off last week (one of the 500 NetApp people) It's currently OFF the trailer now. But for the right deal I may sell the trailer also as I am planning to make a smaller toter style eventually... (My van/camper is working out great...) ANyway the trailer is referenced in my builds 22' w/ 2 6ks both brakes, 16" radial trailer tires etc... PM/email me if interested.

My sleeper box is forsale now for $1000 I got laid off last week (one of the 500 NetApp people) It's currently OFF the trailer now. But for the right deal I may sell the trailer also as I am planning to make a smaller toter style eventually... (My van/camper is working out great...) ANyway the trailer is referenced in my builds 22' w/ 2 6ks both brakes, 16" radial trailer tires etc... PM/email me if interested.


Yager, that sucks dude:( good luck to ya in the job search

...-Full LED lighting along the decks and upper deck for the party boat atmosphere at night.

I'm still searching for a trailer, and with regard to LED, they are definately the way to go (no maintenance) I've already picked out the ones I want over at www.ledtrailerlights.com

I've seen a few people running a GN trailer with truck camper on the front of it

Check out www.led-r-us.com

They have great prices... for example, I got 61-count oval S/S/T lights for $19.95. Usually the only ones you can find for that price are 10 or 14-count lights. With all the individual LEDs with the various light added up, I was able to put 250 LEDs on my trailer for about $0.50/LED. That includes all the pigtails and rubber grommets (I used all grommeted flush mount lights on the trailer, but the clearance lights on the slide-in camper are surface mount with a chrome bezel).

still one of my favorites:

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http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=690272&highlight=

With out camper I like a 16 foot bumber pull flat 8 foot deck.

Here is some Dual wheeled axles on a boat trailer
http://www.extremetrailers.com/new/db_Dsc000164.jpg
How about triple axles
http://www.extremetrailers.com/new/db_gallery24.jpg

This is one of my favorites
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q2/PuckerFactor/Pucker%20Factor%20II%20-%20Blue%20Torch%20Fab/IMG_2657.jpg

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I want one ¡¡¡
Santa remember me ¡¡¡ :rolleyes:
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:flipoff2:

:usa:

I love how the coolers fit almost perfectly in the wheel housings of the pimp palace.

Why would you want or need steering, 12k axles, and adjustable suspension for a buggy hualer??

If I already had a large trailer and wanted to add another one with the specific task of buggy hualling/recreation fun I'd build a lightweight one that with my weekend requirements in mind. Such as buggy, parts and tools storage, fuel containers, sleeping quarters, coolers, grill, aux lighting, water storage, attachable awning, lawn chair storage. Package that all together nicely in an easily lockable package and I think that would be pimp. Make sure the coolers are full, radio works, and bring a couple of lawn games like horseshoes along and you'll be pimpin.

Here's some of the best idea's IMO.

I don't know about the axles and steering ideas..When these are loaded they ride fine behind a 3/4 ton rig....coilovers or the really nice axles might help but to me it would be a waste of $.

After saying all that:
led lights for loading/markers/tails all over...Under trailer too..like rock lights
a ton of attachment points
rear hitch ( I use mine for a small pop up camper that I tow behind the trailer or my grill trailer--> http://bbonepics.shutterfly.com/94)
tool boxes for straps and chains
air tank underneath
2 or more spare trailer tires under the deck
electric jack in the front
battery under the deck
winch on the front below the deck (so it remains a open deckover/ no obstructions)
ramps under the rear deck
mounts on the sides for side loading ramps--> quads or side by sides or kid buggy
firewood basket underneath
propane tank storage
slide out boxes under the deck like on a big rv for cooler etc.

I know some/most of these arent pimp but...

Here is some Dual wheeled axles on a boat trailer
http://www.extremetrailers.com/new/db_Dsc000164.jpg
How about triple axles
http://www.extremetrailers.com/new/db_gallery24.jpg

This is one of my favorites
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q2/PuckerFactor/Pucker%20Factor%20II%20-%20Blue%20Torch%20Fab/IMG_2657.jpg

I'd love to see all the specs on this trailer. I know it's bloomers built but it is nice.

Here is some Dual wheeled axles on a boat trailer
http://www.extremetrailers.com/new/db_Dsc000164.jpg
How about triple axles
http://www.extremetrailers.com/new/db_gallery24.jpg

This is one of my favorites
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q2/PuckerFactor/Pucker%20Factor%20II%20-%20Blue%20Torch%20Fab/IMG_2657.jpg

Nice!

This one? :flipoff2:
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I don't think I'd want a 15-24' trailer to turn any quicker backing up :eek: jackknife central

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What a great idea. You can get take off sleepers for near free!