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: bore and stroke

MuddMachine
08-24-2002, 10:33 AM
Can anyone tell me what the bore and stroke of a 1.3 is vs. the 1.6 ? Havent a clue myself.
Tusker
08-25-2002, 06:31 AM
Same bore.
DemoMike
08-26-2002, 10:05 AM
Type 1.3-liter, four-cylinder, in-line
8-valve OHC
Block material Aluminum
Bore x Stroke 2.91 in. x 3.03 in. (74 mm x 77 mm)
Displacement 80.8 cu. in. (1.3 liter)
Compression ratio 8.9:1
Induction system Carburetor
Horsepower (SAE net) 60 hp @ 6500 rpm (45 kw)
Torque (SAE net) lb.-ft. @ 3500 rpm

Engine LS5
Type 1.6-liter, four-cylinder, in-line
8-valve SOHC
Block material Aluminum
Bore x Stroke 2.95 in. x 3.54 in.
Displacement 1.6 L
Compression ratio 8.9:1
Induction system Electronic fuel injection
Horsepower (SAE net) 80 hp @ 5400 rpm
Torque (SAE net) 94 lb.-ft. @ 3300 rpm
Emission Control System EFI, 3-Way Catalyst, EGR
Cam Drive Belt
Recommended Fuel (minimum) 87+ octane

Engine LO1 (available only in California)
Type 1.6-liter, four-cylinder, in-line
16-valve SOHC
Block material Aluminum
Bore x Stroke 2.95 in. x 3.54 in.
Displacement 1.6 L
Compression ratio 9.5:1
Induction system Multiport fuel injection
Horsepower (SAE net) 95 hp @ 5600 rpm
Torque (SAE net) 98 lb.-ft. @ 4000 rpm
Emission Control System 3-Way Catalyst, EGR
Cam Drive Belt
Recommended Fuel (minimum) 87+ octane

You guys ever been here?:rolleyes:

http://www.off-road.com/suzuki/
MuddMachine
08-26-2002, 07:15 PM
Great info ! Thx, Does anybody know connecting rod lengths between the 2 motors ? Is there any good parts that can be interchanged between these motors ? like forged stuff or fancy valves ? Someones gotta be muckin around with these things. :D
DemoMike
08-27-2002, 09:05 AM
Hey, I just noticed there's no torque listed for the 1300. Hmmm, maybe its not an oversight;)
MuddMachine
08-27-2002, 09:45 PM
Look closely and you'll see 45kw, hmmm, how many ft lbs is that ? lol :question:
Bobzooki
08-28-2002, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by Titanium
Look closely and you'll see 45kw, hmmm, how many ft lbs is that ? lol :question:

Nope, 45Kw equals 60HP - doesn't translate into torque.
UZI 9mm
08-28-2002, 09:32 AM
carburated
HP- 64
torque-74 lb.ft.


EFI
HP-66
torque-76 lb.ft.
Gozuki
08-28-2002, 10:03 AM
Ask Gary at petroworks about swapping parts, I think the swift bottom end has more/stronger journals and better crank, and he puts a 16v block on top with a ?swift intake....
MuddMachine
08-28-2002, 07:16 PM
What about heavier valve springs and stainless valves ? We have ourselves a supercharger and a nitrous kit here :shaking:
SouthernZuk
08-29-2002, 09:16 AM
I think the heavier valve springs are a good idea with the components you are talking about. You will also need dish top forged pistons and forged connecting rods. The swift bottom end has a forged crank and rods and bigger caps so it will handle more rpm. I dont think you will need the swift stuff as long as you arent turning rpm above 7500 to 8000. If you are staying below that amount of rpm the forged parts I mentioned earlier should do just fine. If you need any help locating any parts just e-mail.
MuddMachine
08-29-2002, 09:42 AM
Im thinkin it would be kool to use a 1.6L bottom end cuz of the longer stroke with some forged stuff but i dont know what stuff will work. How long are the connecting rods in a Swift compared to a 1.6 ? And do they MAKE stainless valves for Suzuki or am i adapting parts from another engine ?
SouthernZuk
08-29-2002, 09:51 AM
Ill have to see if I can find some stainless valves. The stroke from the 1.6 will be beneficial, but you will probably need to throw out any idea of using swift parts in one. If I remember correctly, I can get forged full floater pistons .020, .030, .040, .060 over and rods for the 1.6.
MuddMachine
08-29-2002, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by SouthernZuk
The stroke from the 1.6 will be beneficial, but you will probably need to throw out any idea of using swift parts in one.

So im assuming the swift connecting rods wont go in the 1.6 ? Wrong pin size ? Shorter rod ? Longer ?
DemoMike
08-29-2002, 10:40 AM
Looky looky :D

http://www.ssracing.com/aftermarket.htm

A little OT...


http://www.suzuki.co.jp/dom4/motor/02/pre/ignis_eng/02.html

http://www.ssgti.net/tech/swap.htm

http://www.ssgti.net/tech/swap2.htm
MuddMachine
08-29-2002, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by DemoMike
Looky looky :D


Thanky thanky :D
Bobzooki
08-29-2002, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by DemoMike
Looky looky :D
http://www.suzuki.co.jp/dom4/motor/02/pre/ignis_eng/02.html


That's a 1.6/16 with 153 KW, or...

205 HP!
MuddMachine
08-31-2002, 10:30 PM
What about a stud kit for a 1.6L/1.3L ?
DemoMike
09-03-2002, 03:37 PM
more trivia...

http://www.importperformanceparts.net/imports/suzukiengine&headsmenu.html



BTW, undersquare motors (1600) generally don't rev too well.