: Ford Sterling Disc Brake Bracket from Ruffstuff!


Gravel Maker
02-11-2009, 11:26 AM
Here you are, an easy bolt on bracket for the Sterling axles using cheap off the shelf parts! No secret handshakes to get replacement parts:D This one uses the GM Caliper ('73-87 3/4 Ton 4x4 Front) because it is 1/2 the cost of the Ford and way less expensive to put together than the wedge system. the rotor is a '96 Ford E350 Van Rear rotor. These were a long time coming but way worth the wait! $50 a pair!

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_sterling%20disc%20angled%20view1.jpg

TurboBrian
02-11-2009, 02:53 PM
Could you fit a 15" rim over this setup? If so what backspacing is needed?

Thanks, Brian

Gravel Maker
02-11-2009, 05:17 PM
The Van rotor has a 4" hat so it gives more more available space. I haven't tried anything bigger than 3.25' but it will always depend on the wheel manufacturer also....

Gravel Maker
02-12-2009, 05:27 PM
5 Pair out already!

Gravel Maker
02-16-2009, 10:00 PM
9 pairs gone now! Thanks Pirate! And FSB:p

Gravel Maker
02-22-2009, 03:42 PM
Maybe Pirate hasn't discovered the Sterling....Right up with the 14 bolt and more clearance!

Gravel Maker
02-24-2009, 09:38 PM
You are looking for! Over 80 pair in stock!

John-n-Kim
02-25-2009, 10:43 PM
nice, Dan i will be ordering a set of these for sure, how is the 10.25 cover coming?

Gravel Maker
02-26-2009, 10:15 AM
nice, Dan i will be ordering a set of these for sure, how is the 10.25 cover coming?

2nd prototype done, still some changes due but should be pretty soon!

John-n-Kim
02-26-2009, 01:26 PM
keep us posted

01TJCRAWLER
02-26-2009, 01:35 PM
dan...are there advantages of running this over the current oem disc brake setup i have on my sterling now??

Gravel Maker
02-26-2009, 01:47 PM
dan...are there advantages of running this over the current oem disc brake setup i have on my sterling now??

The GM parts are less expensive but the real reason we make this is for all the Sterling guys without rear disc brakes.....You are one of the lucky ones with them stock.

Skeeter Cruz
03-01-2009, 01:44 PM
Work with the e-brake?

Gravel Maker
03-01-2009, 02:04 PM
Work with the e-brake?

Work with the '76-77 ElDorado ebrake calipers...

Jaiden
03-07-2009, 11:37 AM
quick dumb question, is the rotor 8x6.5 or the metric? Really wanna go disc in the rear instead of the drums. If so my order will be coming shortly

Gravel Maker
03-07-2009, 11:52 AM
quick dumb question, is the rotor 8x6.5 or the metric? Really wanna go disc in the rear instead of the drums. If so my order will be coming shortly


So fire away!

Jaiden
03-07-2009, 12:47 PM
Order is IN!!! cant wait to have some form of brakes in the rear now.... well when I come up with the cash for new rotors and calipers :}

JeepFreak21
03-08-2009, 05:46 PM
quick dumb question, is the rotor 8x6.5 or the metric? Really wanna go disc in the rear instead of the drums. If so my order will be coming shortly

The van rotors are not metric... they are 8" x 6.5".
HTH,
Billy

Gravel Maker
03-08-2009, 08:07 PM
Still prior to metric......They can be used with a weld on bracket for alot of deep hat rotor needs...!

u2slow
03-12-2009, 08:10 PM
Awesome!

Does this work on the DRW as well as the SRW?

How about a D70 rear in a '97 E350 cube-van? (I believe the E & F series brakes were the same even if the axle brand was different)

Gravel Maker
03-12-2009, 09:08 PM
Awesome!

Does this work on the DRW as well as the SRW?

How about a D70 rear in a '97 E350 cube-van? (I believe the E & F series brakes were the same even if the axle brand was different)


I don't have a dually axle to check but I would presume they had bigger brakes from the factory so the flange would be in the wrong place.

Gravel Maker
03-29-2009, 10:24 PM
Thanks to you guys and a few other boards I frequent!

Gravel Maker
04-02-2009, 09:57 PM
Now if we can only find the time to finish the second prototype Sterling cover....:(

Gravel Maker
04-07-2009, 11:30 PM
Another new brake bracket tommorrow!

Gravel Maker
04-29-2009, 07:56 PM
The Sterling is a pretty dammed good axle so why not?

spidr
07-16-2009, 06:57 PM
Price shipped to Canada? Postal code V9L 5W7.

Thanks
Ryan

Gravel Maker
07-16-2009, 11:12 PM
Price shipped to Canada? Postal code V9L 5W7.

Thanks
Ryan

they are $45 with the PBB10 discount but shipping is ugly.....These weigh too much for the flat rate envelopes and the boxes are $24+, I will check out UPS in the morning....

Gravel Maker
10-23-2009, 09:16 AM
Whether we update it or not, but just for the guy that asked.... :D

jam0o0
10-23-2009, 01:03 PM
had mine for a year. these are beefy. 3/8" plate, plenty of steel where you need it. locks up 38's on dry pavement easy. some sterlings need a .25" spacer though. mine did.

Gravel Maker
10-23-2009, 02:29 PM
had mine for a year. these are beefy. 3/8" plate, plenty of steel where you need it. locks up 38's on dry pavement easy. some sterlings need a .25" spacer though. mine did.


Not really that new though but the last year?

enigma2y0u
10-24-2009, 07:23 AM
I have y0ur 14 bolt brackets. My 14 bolt is/will be spooled. It would be pretty slick if you made a braket set that one side had provisions for two calipers. So a guy could run a hydraulic ebrake with an extra caliper. Sure you could break an axle shaft and it would be somewhat less effective, but it may be another option over the tcase brakes.

Then, if you actually sell them, you could send me one for testing and all.

Gravel Maker
10-24-2009, 10:10 AM
I have y0ur 14 bolt brackets. My 14 bolt is/will be spooled. It would be pretty slick if you made a braket set that one side had provisions for two calipers. So a guy could run a hydraulic ebrake with an extra caliper. Sure you could break an axle shaft and it would be somewhat less effective, but it may be another option over the tcase brakes.

Then, if you actually sell them, you could send me one for testing and all.

I tried to do that 3 years ago, my insurance company wouldn't let me since a fluid acuated ebrake isn't legal. I must be mechanical.

crash-harris
10-24-2009, 10:30 AM
Any plans for a disk brake setup for the semi-floating Sterling 10.25"?

Gravel Maker
10-24-2009, 10:52 AM
Any plans for a disk brake setup for the semi-floating Sterling 10.25"?


Buts its' one of those axles that aren't seeing much offroad use, certainly worthwhile for the on road crowd though...

unreng
11-03-2009, 09:23 AM
Dan,

Do the brackets utilize the smaller or larger GVW GM 3/4 ton 4x4 caliper? GM Code JB5 (5400-7200 lbs) or GM Code JB7 (8400 lbs)? Thanks,

Chris

Gravel Maker
11-03-2009, 09:56 AM
Dan,

Do the brackets utilize the smaller or larger GVW GM 3/4 ton 4x4 caliper? GM Code JB5 (5400-7200 lbs) or GM Code JB7 (8400 lbs)? Thanks,

Chris


The one with the 7" caliper pin spacing...

Gravel Maker
11-05-2009, 01:02 PM
The per pair pricing of $50 can't be beat, unless you add the PBB10 discount and pay only $45 :D

swdockter
11-05-2009, 05:02 PM
Dan, quick question. I have a 70's vintage rear dana 60 out of a dodge, 1973 actually. I am converting to disk and already have the chevy calipers and disks. Do you have a bracket for this conversion? thanks Scott

Gravel Maker
11-05-2009, 06:31 PM
Dan, quick question. I have a 70's vintage rear dana 60 out of a dodge, 1973 actually. I am converting to disk and already have the chevy calipers and disks. Do you have a bracket for this conversion? thanks Scott


Although many Dodge and GM used the same offsets (Brakes) during that era I do not have one to verify if it will fit. I would look to the weld on to be sure.

swdockter
11-05-2009, 09:04 PM
Although many Dodge and GM used the same offsets (Brakes) during that era I do not have one to verify if it will fit. I would look to the weld on to be sure.

When I get my hub bearings and studs in, I'll dry fit them with the rotors and calipers and see what I need. I'll get back to you. Scott

willypscustoms
11-05-2009, 09:55 PM
bought a pair few months ago worked great.

Gravel Maker
11-05-2009, 10:01 PM
bought a pair few months ago worked great.

This evening! Beefy :smokin:

Mike1996F350
11-10-2009, 07:19 AM
Do these brackets bolt to the flange in 2 places or 3, just wondering because it is hard to tell from the picture. Also, do you sell the spacer brackets for the newer style axle (94+) or would I need to fabricate some myself? Thanks.

braxton357
11-10-2009, 07:52 AM
It's not listed on your site, but can you buy the unwelded version of the sterling cover? Would like to get a set of these and cover if I can afford them.

Gravel Maker
11-10-2009, 10:49 AM
Do these brackets bolt to the flange in 2 places or 3, just wondering because it is hard to tell from the picture. Also, do you sell the spacer brackets for the newer style axle (94+) or would I need to fabricate some myself? Thanks.

There are 3 bolts used, i don't think I would be confident with just 2....

It's not listed on your site, but can you buy the unwelded version of the sterling cover? Would like to get a set of these and cover if I can afford them.

I didn't add the kit because my welders welded all of them and didn't think to leave some for kits. We will add the kit option in the next batch...Shouldn't be too long...

MIGUEL BRAGA
11-17-2009, 05:13 AM
Do you send to portugal, europe?

only Bracket caliper and caliper with pads to fit on D60?

how much

Gravel Maker
11-17-2009, 09:07 AM
Do you send to portugal, europe?

only Bracket caliper and caliper with pads to fit on D60?

how much

Only the brackets....

TiTRD
11-17-2009, 09:13 AM
Used these on my Toyota with the Sterling rear. Worked out great.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f227/TiTRD/0525091530.jpg

Gravel Maker
11-17-2009, 03:30 PM
Used these on my Toyota with the Sterling rear. Worked out great.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f227/TiTRD/0525091530.jpg

I like it....

jeepsterjc
03-30-2010, 10:19 AM
had mine for a year. these are beefy. 3/8" plate, plenty of steel where you need it. locks up 38's on dry pavement easy. some sterlings need a .25" spacer though. mine did.

What are you using for booster/mastercylinder/proportioning valve? I'll be running 37's minimum and want strong brakes without going hydroboost.

Gravel Maker
06-25-2010, 10:09 AM
Wow, sorry I didn;t see this sooner! I'm sure you have worked it out by now.

But it really is depedant on the vehicle, useable space, adaptability and adapters neccessary, and really what you have available at hand.

Many combos work well, GM 1 ton is a very common swap and the Toyota FJ80 is also a good swap.

Gravel Maker
07-22-2010, 09:17 AM
Time to stop!

Gravel Maker
10-23-2010, 10:21 AM
Worthy of a bump!

Gravel Maker
01-02-2011, 12:07 PM
Definately time for a bump!

Gravel Maker
01-11-2011, 03:24 PM
Thanks for the review on these, I would like to openly invite everyone to review any of the products you have purchased from us!

riotwarrior
03-09-2011, 10:52 PM
Thanks for the review on these, I would like to openly invite everyone to review any of the products you have purchased from us!

Ok this has me really really interested as I have a 10.25 sitting outside waiting on a conversion like this for my 90 Full size Bronco.

So with that, how much shipped to 98844?
Can you email me at riotwarrior@gmail.com please? I have Eldo calipers + parking brake cables waiting to be used for this!

Gravel Maker
03-12-2011, 09:01 AM
They are $51 shipped after the PBB10 discount...Thanks

7.62FMJ
03-13-2011, 01:49 AM
I will be ordering these soon...and possibly the diff cover as well. I can't wait to see the finished product!

Chad19
03-14-2011, 02:08 PM
Ill also be buying this from you guys, ive purchased from you before and Im investing in a sterling 10.5. Thanks again for great products.

cyclegrip
03-14-2011, 08:20 PM
Any special reason I can't find a rear rotor for an '96 E350 on advance auto or autozone websites? Was trying to price out if this would be cheaper than buying new drums and brakes.

Gravel Maker
03-14-2011, 09:38 PM
Any special reason I can't find a rear rotor for an '96 E350 on advance auto or autozone websites? Was trying to price out if this would be cheaper than buying new drums and brakes.
I think it may be easier with the part number NAPA#4886799, its on our website with the description...

cyclegrip
04-03-2011, 07:14 PM
For anyone who has done this. Could you chime in and say how much you spent all together to do this?

Gravel Maker
04-03-2011, 07:18 PM
I have done it ;) It runs from about $180 to $220 depending on what part of the country you are in and whether or not your existing proportioning valve will work for you.

cyclegrip
04-04-2011, 07:08 PM
That's pretty good considering to overhaul the drum brakes is about that much. I'm worried about having no ebrake though.

danwheeler
04-08-2011, 10:38 PM
Dan,

Do the brackets utilize the smaller or larger GVW GM 3/4 ton 4x4 caliper? GM Code JB5 (5400-7200 lbs) or GM Code JB7 (8400 lbs)? Thanks,

Chris

I'm hoping someone is watching this thread tonight because I'd like to get this worked out tomorrow. I received my RuffStuff Sterling brackets today and they look great but the calipers I bought at NAPA don't fit.

I asked for the "heavy duty" calipers which I believe are the GM Code JB7 (8400lbs) and they do not fit into the brackets. Very close but not quite. The bolt spacing is the same though (7")

I could make them work with a little bit of grinding but even if I did, seems like there is not enough room between the bracket and the rotor to fit a pad in between. I wonder if I will need a spacer? The Sterling axle is a 1989.

thanks,
dan

Gravel Maker
04-08-2011, 10:52 PM
I'm hoping someone is watching this thread tonight because I'd like to get this worked out tomorrow. I received my RuffStuff Sterling brackets today and they look great but the calipers I bought at NAPA don't fit.

I asked for the "heavy duty" calipers which I believe are the GM Code JB7 (8400lbs) and they do not fit into the brackets. Very close but not quite. The bolt spacing is the same though (7")

I could make them work with a little bit of grinding but even if I did, seems like there is not enough room between the bracket and the rotor to fit a pad in between. I wonder if I will need a spacer? The Sterling axle is a 1989.

thanks,
dan
The Sterling brakes use the Ford 1 ton E350 Van rotors, they are a rear rotor from a Chateau 15 passenger van, the Napa part number is #4886799. It is the exception to the rule of GM rotors. You should have no problem now.

danwheeler
04-08-2011, 11:30 PM
thanks for your response, Dan. Those are the rotors I have. (4886799) I think the calipers may be part of the problem because I asked for the heavy duty JB7 or JB8 version and they dont quite fit in between the brackets.

here are some pictures

can't even get a pad in between the bracket and the rotor:
http://dano.smugmug.com/Cars/FordBronco/Winter-2011-Upgrade-Project/IMG9474/1244983415_rGeXZ-M.jpg

calipers are a very tight fit and dont look exactly like the ones in the pic on your site:
http://dano.smugmug.com/Cars/FordBronco/Winter-2011-Upgrade-Project/IMG9475/1244983507_v5iWo-M.jpg

I think I could make them work with just a tiny bit of grinding on the brackets though:
http://dano.smugmug.com/Cars/FordBronco/Winter-2011-Upgrade-Project/IMG9477/1244983603_7N9xW-M.jpg

but I think the real problem here is the spacing. Should I use a 1/4" spacer?

danwheeler
04-08-2011, 11:36 PM
is my mounting surface too far towards the rotor?

http://dano.smugmug.com/Cars/FordBronco/Winter-2011-Upgrade-Project/IMG9478/1244990908_LDjvb-M.jpg

danwheeler
04-09-2011, 12:30 AM
OK, sorry Dan - didn't mean to turn this into a support thread but I think I have this working now with the bigger brakes.

I put a 1/4" spacer in between the bracket and the mount flange on the axle
http://dano.smugmug.com/Cars/FordBronco/Winter-2011-Upgrade-Project/IMG9479/1245019679_swDXV-M.jpg

did a tiny bit of grinding on the bracket to make the caliper fit: (probably will do a little more just to be sure it doesn't rub)
http://dano.smugmug.com/Cars/FordBronco/Winter-2011-Upgrade-Project/IMG9482/1245019915_rDgZ5-M.jpg

http://dano.smugmug.com/Cars/FordBronco/Winter-2011-Upgrade-Project/IMG9480/1245019754_Rj2qz-M.jpg

http://dano.smugmug.com/Cars/FordBronco/Winter-2011-Upgrade-Project/IMG9481/1245019843_LaGUu-M.jpg

Everything seems to fit great now! Just need to cut out a few more spacers from some .5" ID tube I have.

Gravel Maker
04-09-2011, 12:57 AM
I think I would have to check out the caliper you used to completely understand but it looks like the caliper is a tad different.

cyclegrip
04-12-2011, 08:17 PM
So this is to be used with the jb6 caliper right?

danwheeler
04-14-2011, 11:40 AM
I think I would have to check out the caliper you used to completely understand but it looks like the caliper is a tad different.

let me know if you would like to see more pictures of the calipers I bought. They are the JB7 versions.

I think if you opened up the gap between the ears on your bracket by about 1/8th of an inch, it would allow the JB7 calipers without modification.

I believe the spacing issue I ran into was specific to my axle.

Gravel Maker
04-14-2011, 01:02 PM
I am sorry if I am not as technical as you guys...

I specify the '75 Chevy 3/4Ton 4x4 rotors & calipers. With auto parts house guys as untrained as they are asking for a JB6/7 would be completely over their heads. The 3/4 ton & 1 ton bolt up, the 1/2 ton would require grinding around the base becasue of a slightly different casting. I hope this explains this better for everyone.

danwheeler
04-14-2011, 04:12 PM
is JB7 considered 1-ton? If so, it required grinding.

Gravel Maker
04-14-2011, 04:39 PM
is JB7 considered 1-ton? If so, it required grinding.
What era is it from?

danwheeler
04-14-2011, 06:43 PM
on your website, you suggest a caliper from a 73-87 3/4 ton truck.

I asked NAPA for a caliper for an 85 3/4 ton truck (which they interpreted as a C20)

They asked me what my GVW was and I told them the higher number thinking the brakes would be bigger=better.

u2slow
04-15-2011, 01:21 AM
is JB7 considered 1-ton? If so, it required grinding.

JB8 is 'real' 1-ton, Bendix wedge calipers, and that's what a Chev D60 uses.

JB7 is your heavy 3/4-ton and flimsy 30/35-series GM products. (Vans - SRW in particular, and some pickups).

paulb3
04-18-2011, 12:47 AM
Hey I placed an order a few weeks ago havent gotten any brackets yet. They in the production queue?

Gravel Maker
04-18-2011, 07:37 AM
Hey I placed an order a few weeks ago havent gotten any brackets yet. They in the production queue?
I am just getting in but they are in stock, give us a call...?

paulb3
04-18-2011, 10:18 AM
Roger that I'll call you in an hour or so on my break. Thanks for the quick reply.

Gravel Maker
07-28-2011, 12:20 PM
Definately time for a bump ;)

Gravel Maker
10-04-2011, 09:59 AM
Time to move up the evolutionary ladder...;)

Gravel Maker
10-05-2011, 04:31 PM
Always time for an upgrade!

150
10-23-2011, 05:16 PM
hey so just wondering would these brackets work with the GM calipers and GM rotors instead of the E-350 rotors? cause i have all the GM stuff from my dana 60 swap and would like to reuse as much of that as possible

Gravel Maker
10-23-2011, 06:08 PM
They only work with the E350 rotors and GM calipers, the offset is different on the rotors. You can use your rotors but you would need a weldon bracket...

Gravel Maker
12-23-2011, 08:26 AM
Time to move up ;)