: RE superflex kit isntalled- feels unstable when climbing- any ideas?
Minehunter 08-24-2002, 01:24 PM http://cetrov.com/myjeep/Dsc04021.jpg
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Just installed the Rubicon Express Superflex lift.
Only problem is on a tilted incline I had the Jeep teetering and very unstable- where it had no problem before the lift was installed.
Not having had a lifted jeep before (but having a lifted 79 Blazer before the jeep) I was wondering if the rear disco's will correct this. The blazer was stable all the time. at present, still has the 31's on it- will go to 35's, new rims, 411 gears.
rear disco's a must I am guessing.
Minehunter 08-24-2002, 01:25 PM http://cetrov.com/myjeep/Dsc04024.jpg
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moveaside 08-24-2002, 09:16 PM Having a hard time figuring out what your asking by your post but if it feels tippy bigger tires are going to make it worse. Maybe nothings wrong doesn't look that way from the pics maybe this is your first lift and you just found out that a lifted Jeep doesn't work like stock:confused: Looks like you sprung for the Adj track bar which is good. Go underneath your TJ and tighten up everything not Good and Tight but to specs. Next see if anything has slop in between it. you got the factory rims which means your probably hitting the control arms with the tires and the body looks pretty straight when your on an incline so it looks fine. Only you know and just so you know there's blood in the water and the sharks are circling by Mon people are going to start flaming you you may want to reconfigure your post.
JS-Economos 08-24-2002, 09:33 PM Well, with that size tires on those rims and with that much lift, it doesn't look like its flexing well. If the sways are still connected when you flex it up, its gonna feel very unstable because the suspension is being limited. Its gonna feel sloppy and teetery (if thats even a word).:flipoff2:
And I agree with MOVEASIDE, it feels much different to drive a lifted rig vs. a stock rig. You have to take this into account.
Minehunter 08-24-2002, 10:37 PM Originally posted by MOVEASIDE
Looks like you sprung for the Adj track bar which is good.
Damn, now how can you see that?
After looking at all the different kits, the rubicon seemed to me to be the most complete kit for the money- would have got the long arm kit but that was another grand.
Yes - 1st jeep and fist lifted jeep- had it since Feb.
I have had other 4x4's, lifted and locked- wanted to try the jeep this time. Not disapointed at all with the beast- right now just trying to set it up to be a worthy rig. bit by bit-
Fuck the sharks- dealt with them before-
It's the people with the good information and know how that make the board worth hanging around. The others are just all talk-
I gotta get some good information from the ones that have set them up before- why make mistakes when you don't have to - and I'm not to proud to ask.
I'm not new to 4x's just jeeps.
fourbychef 08-25-2002, 12:07 AM Originally posted by Minehunter
Just installed the Rubicon Express Superflex lift.
Only problem is on a tilted incline I had the Jeep teetering and very unstable- where it had no problem before the lift was installed.
Not having had a lifted jeep before (but having a lifted 79 Blazer before the jeep) I was wondering if the rear disco's will correct this. The blazer was stable all the time. at present, still has the 31's on it- will go to 35's, new rims, 411 gears.
rear disco's a must I am guessing. [/B]
I am not to learn-ed in the jeep field, but I would say first off, most stock tires suck, they feel unstable to begin with, you add a couple inches lift, and you are going to feel tippy backing out your driveway.
I would guess your 31" tires are about 9-9.5" wide?? I would say when you put your 35"s on there it will widen your stance about 6" bringing your COG back down to where it needs to be.
Disco's will help, they will allow your suspension to articulate better through it's full range of movement (give or take).
GET THE TIRES ON.
Learn to adjust to the new feel of the trucks ability to flex.
After the SAS on my truck, I am about 12" over stock, I felt like I was going to fall over on the slightest off camber situation, but after going through a fairly aggressive rock hounding session, I learned my truck will allow alot more flex and offcamber situations than I thought.
K-ton
JEEP_TJ_FREAK 08-25-2002, 06:11 AM Is that a fucking cat???
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I mean I hate a cat as much as the next guy but damn...
Minehunter 08-25-2002, 07:37 AM LOL
No, that's her stuffed dog.
pokey 08-25-2002, 03:04 PM Might help if you didn't have (what looks like) 40 lbs of air in the tires also.
Bud
lightfoot 08-25-2002, 05:59 PM Stuffed dog....at least you can drag a cat behind your rig and get some satisfaction out of it.
I just wheeled my 98 for the first time after installing the same lift as you. I'm still learning how to drive the thing but found that even with only half a rear swaybar (hey Brad
:flipoff2: ) the Jeep wasn't that unstable off camber.
Get your tires and drive the thing
lightfoot
Originally posted by lightfoot
Stuffed dog....at least you can drag a cat behind your rig and get some satisfaction out of it.
I just wheeled my 98 for the first time after installing the same lift as you. I'm still learning how to drive the thing but found that even with only half a rear swaybar (hey Brad
:flipoff2: ) the Jeep wasn't that unstable off camber.
Get your tires and drive the thing
lightfoot
wadya mean half a swaybar?? did it come off?:confused:
Jakesteramalamajama 08-26-2002, 05:10 AM I've heard that ANY tall TJ lift kit that still utilizes short arms feels a little unstable when you cross it up...
The reason being that, since the control arms are rotating around a point relatively close to the axle, they go almost vertical with a good amount of flex and the side that's drooping (in effect) 'passes' the side that's stuffing. By 'passes' I mean that it gets closer to the front of the vehicle than the stuffing side. On the front axle, the opposite happens during flex and the drooping side gets closer to the rear than the stuffing side. This effect can range anywhere from unnoticeable in a mildly lifted rig all the way to a point where it imparts a steering effect on taller rig.
I'd say it's just the nature of the beast and the only way you're gonna cure it is by installing new control arm mounts and longer control arms (long arm kit).
HTH,
Jake
Minehunter 08-26-2002, 06:33 AM I gotta get the long arm kit!
Isn't there a rule- for so many inches taller- you need to go so many inches wider-
I was thinking about 35's but will go with 33's I think- the dana 30 in the front should handle up to 33's with no modification to strengthen it- the Dana 44 can handle up to 35's with no mods. And I'm guessing that 4:11's should work with that with no problems- and will also handle the 35's later- correct?
I use this as a Daily driver too.
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