I don't know how many of you run a DIVORCED NP205, but I took a Ford Divorced 205 (IMO this divorced case mounts the easiest) and converted to a passenger drop case. The only thing you have to do different is use GM/Dodge shift rails, or just twin stick it.

The best part is, with the Ford case now being a p-drop, it is easier to clock it flat and mount it close to the bottom of the cab since the bulkiest part of it fits in the trans tunnel. I will try and get pics up soon.

So you are running it upside down??

With it upside down , you don't have leaking shifter rail seals?

:smokin:

So you are running it upside down??

Nah, he swapped the guts. The front output is where the input used to be. I think that is what I remember to be what he told me a few weeks ago.:shaking:

Got pics? I need to do this. Is the input bearing bore the same dia and the front output bearing diameter?

I d love to see pics i got a divorced ford 205 beside me and was thinkin u can probably just swap the guts around.

this entier concept is a giant wtf?


if he just shifted the case over to the side why the fawk would he need to swap the shift rails?

now the rear output is way the fawk over to the side.

are dodge 205 that scarce all of a sudden?

I assembled a divorced 205 wrong one time, and put the divorced input/rear output where the front d-line output and aluminum bearing plate usually go. It is plausible. This might also work for two rear outputs or an offset rear axle, but I have never tried to duplicate it or think about it too much.

i agree with trKKlr77, whats wrong with a divorced IH or dodge. if you had the ford one, had some time on your hands and said WTF i will see if it will work, then OK.

but whats the real gian here? if you said you had on offset rear output then cool lets see some picture's. agin maybe im missing something.

jason.

if you had the ford one, had some time on your hands and said WTF i will see if it will work, then OK.


Howd u know? i have lots of free time and a ford 205. . . .thanks to our current economy doing something cheap and time consuming is exactly what i need.

Howd u know? i have lots of free time and a ford 205. . . .thanks to our current economy doing something cheap and time consuming is exactly what i need.

figured it was somthing like posted. cool good to know it works.

jason.

I would like to see some photos of the front input after the swap, and any other photos you might have.

I know where some of his pictures are from that swap. I was as confused as you guys. Then he spoon fed me and it then made sense. I dont know if he would get upset if I posted the pictures or not. I'll find them then post them. If he gets upset, then I'm sorry Bryan.

He will more than likely post better pictures than I, for he has access to the actual unit.

i still dont see how any of the guts could be assembeld differently...

the front out put has a giant gear on it with a dead end for the cover bearing, the input has a little gear in a different spot and wont fit the cover bearing, the idler gear has both big and little gears on it.



pics or it didnt happen......

I know where some of his pictures are from that swap. I was as confused as you guys. Then he spoon fed me and it then made sense. I dont know if he would get upset if I posted the pictures or not. I'll find them then post them. If he gets upset, then I'm sorry Bryan.

He will more than likely post better pictures than I, for he has access to the actual unit.

he posted up in the first place so lets see them.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/axisT6/New%20Project/P1010136.jpg

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Finished:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/axisT6/New%20Project/P1011101.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/axisT6/New%20Project/P1011103.jpg

He is just rearranging the guts. He said somewhere that the Ford 205 mounts better for his application... Bryan can explain mo' betta.

Got those off another forum. I swear I saw the housing completely empty before, I guess not. His photobucket is private, so those are the only pictures we can see till he posts his up. I realize both sets of pictures are of it already swapped, just the bottom two are "finished".

I knew it was only a matter of time before someone else did this. It is possible to have a divorced 205 with one input and three outputs. :D

so the rear cover and and rear out put housings use te same pattern?



in flat or any angle, it would stick way up into the cab way higher than a chevy or dodge do.

i have my 205 doubler clocked up 2" and it only clears buy about 3/8", but it clears.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/axisT6/New%20Project/P1011101.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/axisT6/New%20Project/P1011103.jpg

It has a 1350 input and 1410 output Ubolt style yokes. It is also twin sticked as posted earlier.

Because the case is going to be clocked flat, I had to open one of the shift fork roll pin access holes to accept a 1/4" pipe tap so that I could install a fitting for a breather. I also modded the aluminum cover on the back to include an oil sight tube.

For those wondering why I didn't use a Dodge or IH case, the answer is lack of availability and price. When I have searched, I always found more Ford cases than any other, and the Ford cases were always cheaper by $50-$100.

The ford case mounts using 4 - 5/8" bolts that are on the same plane and parallel to each other which makes building a crossmember MUCH easier.

so the rear cover and and rear out put housings use te same pattern?



in flat or any angle, it would stick way up into the cab way higher than a chevy or dodge do.

i have my 205 doubler clocked up 2" and it only clears buy about 3/8", but it clears.

With the ford case set up to run a chevy axle, the tallest part of the case will be up in the trans tunnel which will allow me to mount the case higher in the chassis.

Lets see some build pics of this 205

cool. I just picked up a wierd divorced 205 from some kind of military jeep, has the front and rear outputs in the bottom, and the top output has a emergency brake band setup. could easily be setup with two standard outputs, just haven't figured out why you'd want two unless you were gonna run a 6x6 setup though.

cool. I just picked up a wierd divorced 205 from some kind of military jeep, has the front and rear outputs in the bottom, and the top output has a emergency brake band setup. could easily be setup with two standard outputs, just haven't figured out why you'd want two unless you were gonna run a 6x6 setup though.

batard thats a NP-200. been looking for one of those for my buggy build for a while. there a little differnt than the 205's, but still a very good case.

jason.

Jason, I tossed three of those... :(

Might PM Mikel on this board, he's got M715 stuff and may have a spare... he's not too far from you either.

Jason, I tossed three of those... :(

Might PM Mikel on this board, he's got M715 stuff and may have a spare... he's not too far from you either.

seems like all those case's are in your neck of the woods:shaking:

i think i might of found one from toyotaking.

jason.

This is a badass thread. This is the kind of sweet-ass tech this board cut its teeth on

Rock on dude!

BTW if it's a Ford case does it have 32 spline outputs I guess? I might have to start looking harder at Ford cases, never thought of this in a million years:laughing:

All divorced Ford, Dodge, and IH NP205s have 32 spline input and output shafts.

i still dont reall see any advantage unless you happen to have a ford case in hand.

there is the same amount of under hang with a chevy married case and any other divorced case could be simply cloked up just as flat.

yeah but the ford case will swing both ways. especially if you already have it.:p

You could use a stock Chevy Dana 60 front for rear steer.

huh? your rear diff would be on the drivers side.

So would the t-case rear output

another really interesting thought... i think it would work both ways, might even replace an np200.

edit: of course, the shift rails would have to work accordingly.

Looks good.

another really interesting thought... i think it would work both ways, might even replace an np200.

edit: of course, the shift rails would have to work accordingly.

So grumpy, if this would work both ways and replace a np200, then u mean u could the front output as an input?? Then if so, u could just use a normal divorced 205 and us the front output as an input, right???

No, in low range the input turns twice as fast (2:1 redution), if the input was used as an output you could only use hi range, no low range. There is a Yellow Toyota pickup on 66" tires that has this setup.